#CSAS HS

[infernalburner]

Drama Teacher Accused of Bullying Disabled Students at CSAS @ NE HS

Oklahoma City, OK – Mrs. Lauren Peck-Weisenfels, the drama teacher at Classen School of Advanced Studies at North East High School, has come under scrutiny for allegations of bullying and discriminatory behavior towards autistic and physically disabled students. The claims have ignited concerns about the treatment of vulnerable students in the school’s drama department.

A Troubled Past

Four years ago, Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels was a teacher at Classen School of Advanced Studies Middle School. During a virtual class in 2020, she allegedly expressed disdain for teaching autistic and special education students, stating, "I hate teaching autistic & special Ed students!" This remark, reportedly overheard by the mothers of two seventh-grade students, prompted complaints to the school administration.

Despite these allegations, Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels was later transferred to the high school, where she continued to teach drama. Concerns about her behavior persisted as students from her middle school classes advanced to high school and found themselves once again under her instruction.

Current Allegations

This school year, a sophomore student who had previously encountered Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels in middle school was placed in her class due to limited elective options. According to the student and their mother, Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels continued to exhibit unkind and discriminatory behavior. The student, who is physically disabled, was allegedly ridiculed for their inability to keep up with costume-making tasks and was marginalized within the class.

In February 2024, Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels emailed the student's mother, stating her intention to fail the student for wearing headphones in class, even though the student was not being disruptive. The email hinted that Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels felt slighted by the student’s lack of engagement, which the mother attributes to previous verbal and emotional abuse.

The Role of Headphones for Autistic Students

Headphones are a critical tool for many autistic individuals, particularly teenagers, to manage sensory overload. Studies show that about 87% of autistic individuals experience sensory sensitivities. Headphones can help mitigate overwhelming sounds, enabling students to focus better and participate in classroom activities more comfortably.

Despite this, Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels reportedly expressed a desire to fail the student for wearing headphones in class. This attitude reflects a lack of understanding and accommodation for the needs of autistic students, who often use such tools to navigate their environment effectively.

May Incident and Unreported Bullying

In May 2024, tensions escalated further when Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels threatened to fail the student over a makeup project, despite the student attending their grandmother's funeral. This incident, while serious, was not formally reported at the time.

Additionally, another student, who uses a cane due to a physical disability, has been subjected to bullying by Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels and her entourage of students. The bullying has occurred behind the student's back and included mockery of their use of a cane and their social media activities, particularly on Tumblr. These actions were not reported until the evening of May 17, 2024, when the student with headphones informed their mother about the incidents.

The May 17 Incident

On May 17, 2024, Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels and a group of students allegedly taunted the aforementioned student in her office, calling them "lazy," "deaf," "ditzy," "slow," "stupid," and "a hindrance to the drama department." Believing the student couldn’t hear due to their headphones, the group reportedly yelled the student's name mockingly. The student, however, overheard everything but chose not to engage.

The same day, Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels reportedly threw a tantrum, slamming items around the classroom in an attempt to provoke a reaction from the student, who continued to ignore her.

Perpetuating Ableism and Discriminatory Rhetoric

Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels’ behavior is not only harmful to the targeted students but also perpetuates ableist and discriminatory rhetoric among her student entourage. By encouraging and participating in the mockery of disabled students, she is teaching her followers to normalize and perpetuate these harmful attitudes. According to psychological studies, teenagers are highly impressionable, and the behavior modeled by authority figures can significantly influence their beliefs and actions.

The Psychology of Living Vicariously Through Teenagers

Research indicates that some adults feel the need to live vicariously through teenagers, seeking approval and acting like them to fulfill unmet emotional needs or relive their own youth. This behavior can be particularly detrimental when exhibited by educators, as it blurs the boundaries between professional and personal interactions. Statistics show that about 30% of adults who exhibit this behavior struggle with identity issues and seek validation through younger individuals.

For teenagers, witnessing an adult, especially an educator, behave in such a manner can lead to confusion, loss of respect for authority, and the normalization of inappropriate behavior. This can contribute to a culture of bullying and exclusion, as students may mimic the adult's actions to gain favor or avoid becoming targets themselves.

The normalization of such discriminatory behavior can have lasting effects, contributing to a culture of intolerance and bullying. Studies indicate that witnessing or participating in bullying can lead to increased aggression, anxiety, and a distorted sense of empathy among youths. It is crucial to address these issues to prevent the spread of abusive behaviors and to promote a supportive and inclusive environment.

Parental Actions and School Response

Following these events, the student with the headphones relayed the incidents to their mother after school on May 17. The mother promptly contacted Kendall Stills with OKCPS via text message, though no response was received. That evening, the mother filed a formal TIPS report with Oklahoma City Public Schools (OKCPS), detailing the history of bullying and including screenshots as evidence. She also contacted the parents of the student with the cane, encouraging them to email Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels and file a formal TIPS report. The mother included the names of the students in Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels' entourage and mentioned her own student in the report to help corroborate the incidents.

The parents involved are currently awaiting a response from OKCPS. Given that next week marks the last few days of the school year, it is uncertain when or if a resolution will be reached. The allegations against Mrs. Peck-Weisenfels highlight broader issues of inclusivity and respect for disabled students within the educational system.

Broader Implications

The situation at Classen School of Advanced Studies raises important questions about the responsibility of educators to create a supportive and nondiscriminatory environment for all students, particularly those with disabilities. As the community awaits the school district’s response, the case underscores the need for vigilance and advocacy to protect the rights and well-being of vulnerable students.

[zombehqola]

Tw for Implied csa

Im posting this here too, a little bit more corny than I imagined, but I like character exploration. And I get to make my favs a little OOC, as a treat

[llycaons]

less than an hour in and hh has already developed and gone into his elaborate fantasy explanation about why prepubescent girls are the actual perpetrators of their own sexual abuse - basically, unlike the other young innocent girl children (who are boring and ugly) they're inhuman, nefarious demons who seduce and ruin men. and how he's a victim of his own terrible urges etc.

the most unrealistic part of this might be how much he struggles with it all but I can't say I've looked much into perpetuators of child sexual abuse so maybe plenty of people do feel that shame and humiliation...or maybe he's playing it up for the jury to go easier on him

[hauntedselves]

tw: csa (mention, nothing graphic)

I've been having constant anxiety for like 3+ months now, and i figured it was either a medication issue, a physical issue, or an alter trying to tell me something. i haven't been able to see a dr to figure out the first two, so i finally decided to check inside (i had talked inside, asking whoever it was to stop, but it didn't have any affect. but this time instead of talking at, i was going to listen to.)

the part - i think a fragment who only held this - warned me it was going to be what i suspected, but also told me i was ready to know. the memory they shared was only a body memory (i never understood that term before but i do now), just tactile sensation, and it confirmed what I've suspected for a while - somewhere along the line, i experienced CSA.

i think that fragment has integrated now. as soon as the memory was over (and it was only a few seconds), i felt a knot dissolve in my stomach (first time i understood that phrase too). the anxiety left (but returned worse in the morning!).

the part warned me that there was more. i guess other parts who hold other aspects of the memory. i don't really want to keep exploring but i think i have to. sadly i only have one more therapy session this year (unless i want to pay full price for it...) but honestly... i think i can try to tackle it on my own.

also the other week my sister's boyfriend's kid (my step niece?) was over and i was triggered and dysregulated, but i didn't recognise it until now. i guess the CSA was when i was around her age (5ish)? which seeing as how i don't remember almost anything from younger than... say, 8ish, makes sense i guess.

i don't really know how to feel but honestly, since i already suspected it and since a Part(s) of me already knew, i don't really feel overwhelmed or triggered about it. just sad, i guess.

[grim-heir]

born to listen to the overabundance of playlists about me, forced to have VERY canon divergent mems that none of the playlists could account for

[tboystrider]

I'm getting caught up on HS^2 and like, is anyone talking about the implication that Dave is a csa survivor? Beyond what we have seen previously? I'm talking about the line where Karkat talks about how much Dave specifically, much more than the other betas and alphas, is upset by the concept of incest. I was initially thinking it may have been something along the lines of "momtraps and sistertraps" but the implication is that he is *upset* by it. I've already been vocal about how I believe Dave was sexually abused by Bro even with only the information we have from the comic. He has cameras in the bathroom and sex toys all strewn over the apartment, that he forces Dave to interact with no less. Between this and Pesterquest quickly reminding us about bathroom cameras I feel like we are gearing up to see Dave talk about this at some point and to see this as part of Dave's PTSD.

[carlyraejepsans]

i lowkey disagree w u on ur position on fictional ships and certain portrayals of topics such as incest and pedophilia, but oh my fucking god to have the fucking. AUDACITY to accuse someone of real life pedophila and incest because they MENTIONED being NEUTRAL on a certain topic?? like you didnt even say you think fictional incest is cool and rad or wtvr u afaik (which. even if u did that ask would Still be abhorrent) but ur explicitly Neutral and are VERY carful to tag shit and i just. 1/2

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i cannot fucking imagine accusing someone of such a horrid act with such conviction bc u SLightly DIsagree on a topic. jfc. i block tags and if ur conversations ever drive me over the edge id Unfollow. im so so sorry people are such fucking assholes man. i hope people gain some sense abt these topics im so sorry

yeah no i completely respect your opinion. and i do know where it's coming from. to tell you the truth (basic decency of tagging triggers aside), i DO find most of those fanon portrayals to be cheap and uncalled for a good majority of the time, at least from a literary standpoint. things like dating a minor or your own sibling have serious implications on a character's moral code and interpersonal dynamics where most characters would... not fucking do that! and the moment you don't engage with those implications, it becomes either incredibly ooc or altogether shallow. some people act like a topic being problematic makes it inherently complex and rich, when it can be as tropey and flat as any other "safe" topic. being problematic doesn't make you interesting etc. my point isn't arguing over literary value, it's more like... there's people behaving horribly and cruelly towards the AUTHORS, and making disgusting assumptions like the one that was made against me, all because of fiction you can always filter out at the end of the day (assuming basic tagging etiquette is respected ofc) and like. that's too far. nobody deserves to be treated like this.

not to mention, the "incest fiction recs"/"pro incest posts" those freaks mentioned were literally 1) me gushing about revolutionary girl utena, a deeply feminist and self-aware series that unpacks the misogyny behind anime incest tropes by treating that abuse REALISTICALLY as patriarchal manipulation from a male relative and showing how the female victim suffers and emancipates herself from it and 2) me being annoyed that hs showed one of its characters suffering from csa without acknowledging it AS abuse, even when it would've been not just the morally decent thing to do, but also a genuinely good addition to his character arc (apparently it does do that in the endstory, but i didn't know it at the time). those are both posts about realistic, condemning, and well-thought depictions of incestuous abuse in fiction—which is the only way i ever enjoy the topic btw—but that didn't stop these people from deciding i had an incest fetish and harassing me for weeks on end to the point of accusing me of sexually abusing my teenage brother. like you said, it would be a ghoulish way to treat someone even if their assumption had been right (and it wasn't), but it's like they saw the topic being mentioned and that fact alone was unforgivable, regardless of context. and this crap happens to people all the time! if that's not fucking stupid i don't know what is

[prof-ramses]

Horror Lingers in Hope

So, this is my first proper SM ficlet, and it's Roy angst because of course it is. I wrote this about a month ago, but refined it since and am posting to get extra hype going for the impending release of HS!

TW: Nothing explicit, but there is reference to past CSA, as should be expected from a Roy angst fic.

Roy was honestly surprised when his parents let him invite not only Susie, but Ross and Robert over. He was obviously glad, it just seemed a bit sudden. "Man, this place rocks, Roy!" Robert said as he looked around the lavish living room. "Heh, yeah, it does." was all Roy could muster, it was nice to not worry about anything for a bit, just enjoying a day with the people who mattered. "Now try coming here for dates all the time." Susie chirped, "With this fine specimen." She playfully tugged at Roy's cheek and got a little chuckle out of him. “So, being the great host I am,” Roy half-joked, “I wanted to ask; What do you guys want to do?” “Wait, you said you were writing a song, right? Can we hear it?” Again, Ross’s question took Roy a little off guard, it’s not that he didn’t like the attention, It was just something he wasn’t used to, at least not in this way. “Only, and I mean only, if  you promise not to make fun of how cheesy it is.” Which it was, a ballad he was working on for Susie, he’d never admit it, but it started as a birthday present he didn’t finish in time. Before he could get too lost in his thoughts, Susie butted in, “AND if you promise not to get jealous of his singing voice.” “Oh, yeah” Ross joined in, “I don’t think I’ve heard you sing, man.“ “Then you’re missing out. Trust me.” “Why are you saying that like I’M the talented one?” “Roy, you’ve heard me sing, you know which one of us has that kind of talent!” “I know, I know, you’re just a lot of fun to mess with.” And without missing a beat, Susie responded to her boyfriend the exact way he expected from her and loved her for, “Yep, we’re really in sync like that.”

That was when Roy's mother poked around the corner "Does anyone want anything? I've been meaning to try some new smoothie recipes." "Nope, but thanks for the offer, Mrs. L." Ross responded for the group, he really had a way of reading the room.

Just then there was a knock at the front door *knock--knock* Roy's hearing suddenly clouded as he heard his father in the next room say "Ah, on time for once." Suddenly everything seemed darker, everyone turned to him. Their mouths didn't seem to move, yet he could hear them, in unison "Go on Reynold, answer it." He suddenly found himself right in front of that door, the knock came again, faster *knock-knock* Roy felt something in his hand, nevermind the fact that it hadn't moved. The door opened and there he was. "Hey little man. Long time no see."

Suddenly Susie entered from Roy's peripheral vision approaching that monster, a calm, accepting smile on her face, yet her eyes full of tears, pleading through acceptance. "Thanks for this little number, Roy. Still not quite on par with those 2 treats you got me a few years back." "No-NO, NO! You're dead, you died that Halloween! You're gone! GONE!" Even with the door open, that knocking persisted *knockknock-knockknock "Thanks again, kiddo." He said as he wrapped his arm around Susie's. Her voice sounded so peaceful as she said; “Don’t worry, Roy. This is how it was always going to be.”. "You've done wonders for you're dear uncle." His voice rang out as the knocking turned into a near constant drone of beating against Roy’s mind. He tried to reach out, to pull Susie away, to do ANYTHING. But he couldn’t, he ran faster and faster, but with every step he felt like something was pulling him down.

Roy damn near fell out of his bed when he lurched forward as he awoke in a frigid sweat. The quiet of the night and the air around him feeling like a gentle hand on his shoulder telling him to leave that horror behind. Telling him to leave it behind in the exact way he couldn't leave it behind. Not alone. But he already told Ross and Robert everything, they'd already helped as much as they could. There wasn't a snowball's chance in hell he could tell dad, not yet. Mom, maybe, at least she wouldn't feel betrayed be her own blood. And Susie… how would he even start telling her? It didn’t matter, he had to tell them... Soon, sometime soon....

[nonbinarygamzee]

Can you expand upon that post? I don't think I disagree but I want to be sure I understand

for hs to actually meaningfully address more directly its themes of abuse and csa it would have to do a level of introspection on the treatment of characters whos abuse and sexual traumas it cast off as jokes. which to me goes beyond characters like jake or vriska, which isnt to say these characters Dont deserve that introspection at all i think vriska in particular is a character whos fans and detractors alike should be engaging with the depth of her experiences beyond slinging back and forth her faults and traumas.

but like. in a world where hs wants to engage with its own conversations especially in a light more serious than the og comic tended to get where does that leave characters who you have to dehumanize to justify the plot itself. when i talk about hs as a brand entity being something that cant meaningfully handle these topics i mean that it would have to apply a level of scrutiny and condemnation to some of the comics most vile racist and belittling attributes that i just dont think it can do while being something officially released under the same legal entity. the reality that the story itself was Often a reaction in real time to critique, being met with an author who was not only unwilling but completely disgusted by those critiques and whos writing very much trickled down into the real life harrassment campaigns that proceeded it, are not things that are like.... easily removed from the fuller picture imo, especially when that shaped how entire characters were sidelined into jokes and caricatures, and those characters Being jokes and caricatures became important to the stability of the plot itself. i know im always talking about why the assertion of no canonicity is bullshit but its bullshit and homestuck is a BRAND!!

[hauntedselves]

had therapy today (thank fuck lol). i'm a lot better now but have had a pretty shitty few days

(tw for CSA related triggers, nothing graphic or even directly mentioned)

i figured out that my step niece is triggering CSA parts/memories/whatever, which is shitty because i like her and i dont want to associate her with something so horrible! but the thing to do here is to not avoid her - practice grounding to the present, downregulate, and lots and lots of self soothing and self care. as with all triggers!

anyway, the last time she came over i was dissociated, and then that night i was just so overwhelmed, i think probably a child part was out, i just kept internally saying "i can't do this, i'm sorry, i don't want it". and i had to keep moving, and obviously that was really counterintuitive to getting to sleep. i would finally doze off only to wake up again. i finally slept a few hours but it was a really shitty night.

then during that day i was still really triggered - step niece had left by then; a restless sort of anxious, shaky. my anxiety and trauma is very somatic, body-based. lots of nausea, stomach problems, clammy, no appetite and all food seems revolting. i do laps of the house or my room because its all i can do to regulate myself. the good thing about it being so somatic is that body based regulation works well - take a walk, sit in the sun, have a shower or a bath, breathe. i have to remember to sit with the feelings, don't run from them, because then you create a phobic avoidant response to the triggers and the feelings, which makes it worse.

much better today, thankfully. i'm kinda scared that this will happen every time my niece is over, but... i have to work with it. i'm not going to avoid her, i have to balance working with the trauma vs self care. a fine line!

unfortunately due to holidays and medicare stuff i won't see my psych again until early january. but i think i'll be fine... i've made it through one of the worst days i've ever had; nothing lasts forever.

oh also. i talked to my sister about the CSA stuff and she said she thinks the same happened to her (which i kinda suspected too). awful, but ... we're in this together.

[walker-extended-universe]

These are all fics that have not escaped my drafts, not even for a single chapter. I can't provide links like the last poll series but I will provide a general summar below:

3x18 Stella Got Shot AU

Summary: What is says on the tin. Stella was the one that got shot in 3x18 instead of Witt and has to go to the hospital. I also put in that Sadie was somewhat involved in the how/why Witt was there in the first place but also included reasoning as to why she helped.

3x18 Micki Insert

Summary: Micki was invited to James' wedding and she couldn't say no. She meets Sadie and has a little talk with August about potentially joining the military. She also catches up with the Walkers and talks a little about what her plans for her future are.

WIndy Hoyt csa fic

Summary: After saving a White Dove from a customer who didn't understand the word 'no', an event from Hoyt's past is dredged up. He tries to shove it back down and ignore it but trauma doesn't work like that.

The kids got kidnapped too AU

Summary: Sharon was paid by Grey Flag to lure the kids into a trap. Stella falls for it and August goes down with her. Stella is placed into the cell Julia was in originally, right above Cordell and Liam. August is placed in another cell near where Julia was moved too. All four members of the Walker family suffer various levels of torture. They are able to escape but all is not well as August has a seizure during his debriefing and is rushed to the hospital. We learn that he's suffering from mild brain damage and Cordell, who now knows how they got kidnapped, blames Stella for the whole mess.

Stella/Sam/Dean

Summary: Stella's off at college and gets attacked by a monster- and subsequently saved by two attractive older guys. She's very grateful and offers them a drink that she's totally old enough to buy. Things escalate from there.

Cordell/Jessica

Summary: Cordell is called up to New York to consult on a case involving a gang he worked with in Texas. While there, he ends up saving socialite Jessica Whitly from being hit by a car and she takes him to dinner as thanks. she's enthralled by the younger, attractive Texas Ranger and takes him home. Cordell hs to return home the next morning, hastened by an awkward interaction with her children (only a few years younger than himself). Jessica finds he left his scarf behind and plans to deliver it in person.

Geri objects at Cordell/Emily wedding but it's just a dream

Summary: In which Geri objects at Cordell/Emily's wedding because of her feelings for Cordell and things go badly- but it was all just a dream

Jealous!Geri arranges for Emily's death AU

Summary: Emily gets the loving husband, the kids, the white pickets fence, the stable life, the dream.... And what does Geri get? Revenge. (I had a phase okay sue me)

August got Sadie pregnant and now there's drama

Summary: Fic I'm collaborating with @theladywyn on. In which August and Sadie have a FBW-type relationship (because they don't talk about their feelings) and Sadie ends up getting pregnant. But also Sadie is arrested because of her involvement with Witt and his friends and she gives birth in prison. August deals with fatherhood at 17 and trying to juggle his new responsibilities as well as his old ones. A lot of pressure is put on both of them to do the Right Thing regarding their relationship and the family. There's a lot going on and there's much angst but there's a fluffy epilogue so there

Micki and Cassie being friends

Summary: Micki and Cassie meet at a bar and Cassie ends up spilling some of the bullshit Cordell and Trey and James have put her through in season 3. Micki is not happy to hear about this and insists on rounding them up to give them a tongue-lashing.

[marecog]

we are the white hat red flags, also known as mare cognitum (any pronouns except they/them). we have no connection to the metal band of the same name but do fuck with them.

22 y/o post-origins system, collectively a detransfem woman

we’ve been in plural spaces since late 2018, so feel free to ask us about specifics of plural history from then onward or say hello if you remember us as jamessys or unflinched (or recount your greviences with us🎶)

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Shared interests: homestuck, psychology relating to trauma + dissociative disorders and the cycle of abuse, as well as cats :)

Less commonly shared interests: discussions around littlehood (all kinds, not just agere), drugs, persecutors, and plural + mogai microlabels and history

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CSA/COCSA/SA, demonization of harm causing system members, dehumanization of abusers as a group, chronophillias

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OMG SUPER CONFUSING BISEXUAL COMING OUT STORYTIME 🫶

ive known i liked girls since i was 11-12 but i had no idea wtf bisexuality was for some reason so i was like uhhhh but i have had crushes on boys??? so im not gay?? idk ive been normal since forever ig. anyways my friend ended up coming out as bi to me n i was like OH FUCK OK I GET IT NOW. anyways my first crush on a girl really traumatized me for multiple reasons but not really gonna talk about it here its def not in a conventional way i'll say that. my psychiatrist's opinion was that i was being perverted n i thot he was gonna tell my parents who wouldve well idk what probably had kicked me out earlier than when they did lmfao? so i was like oh ok. then i had the osa disease n then suffered csa eventually :( so wasnt able to explore my ssa at all throughout hs even tho now i realize i was still having crushes on girls. then i went to therapy again n my therapist was like ermmm i dont think u actually like girls i think ur just mentally ill so i was like oh ok makes sense. 🤨 ig i was just too broken n unaware of my own feelings that much that i believed this narrative for a few years. anyways, in the psych ward after getting out of the csa cuz i was an adult now atp, thats where i met veruca n had my first sexual experience with a woman n was like well maybe im not actually bi im just mentally ill still n its only an fp thing n for some reason veruca was like um ok sure. but...like? if u have sexual feelings for an fp then lmfao?? "its the bpd babe ur just attached to them, its not attraction." ?????? it makes no damn sense wtf is wrong with ppl n what was wrong with me cuz i certainly didnt think this about other ssa ppl especially gay ppl lmfao? calling ssa mental illness is homophobic??? anyways, i kissed a few women when i was in my first attempt at college n it was a weird era in my life but anyways. eventually i was having a sexual relationship with veruca n i was still too scared n had internalized homophobia from when i was a kid n that psychiatrist i just didnt realize it. broke up with veruca but pretended like we were just friends idk anyways eventually i started to shed that dumb "its just the bpd n fp stuff" bullshit, realized i was actually in love with my online friend n she wasnt just an fp, found out she was a lot younger than she said, n dipped the fuck out of that. i was living with (being held hostage by) my family so i couldnt actually accept myself fully yet n just made jokes about me being bi so i didnt look sus idk. eventualy after i fled my family n lived with a bi (male 🤮) n met his other bi female friends i was like damn im bi btw :) n then one of those friends ended up being my first real gf (rachel, who dumped me cuz of vi 👅 [not really she just hated that i was ill]). now (well reaally like for the least 3 years plus) i have like zero interest in males thank god 🫶. ok im done with the bit.

oh also it’s been like 4 years now since ive been out lol. completely forgor that info.

cannot believe 5 years ago i was calling myself hetero 🗿

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some other things i've seen: (mentions of csa later down)

people who hc jason as catholic are stealing from helena: absolutely busted take esp considering new jersey is one of the most catholic states in the usa. this isnt a niche religion, guys. more gotham characters actually probably should be, demographics wise.

i guess there might be an argument where fanon tends to make jason a teacher too, but usually he's a professor or hs teacher, not elementary.

the above rb works best with explaining her further i think.

steph and jason's backstories: this one is actually dc's fault, stop blaming the fans. theyve made it so jason as robin acted as reckless as her (no shade to steph i enojoy it on her and think it makes sense as she was a solo vigilante before robin). theyve given jason an abusive dad whereas before he was just absent. they gave both of them mom's who do drugs.

ig too there are fanons that make him go into the medical field like her

i struggle to think of something fanon does that makes them similar beyond this? canon seems to have like. been the whole catalyst. honestly most people seem to actually make steph poorer than she ever was in canon to compare her w/ jason.

both helena and steph also are so called black sheeps of the batfamily for a while which when people say that jason is also a black sheep pisses people off (a: i do agree when people make steph's relationship to the bats way too nice but if they dont like. chill. b: jason, as someone who was adopted by bruce, is gonna have a different dynamic. like an actual black sheep relation to his family opposed to like. friends/coworkers. steph and helena are not actually bruce's family. they just work with him and are friends with tim/cass. while steph gets the mentor part helena is like a grown ass woman?)

mia: it's the child prostitute thing, however considering jason is given a lot of actual in-text hints to csa and whinick (who worked on both mia and jason books) was the one to have jason compare them both, this is delibrate. like get reading comprhension (esp since mia killed a dude too! they are in conversation for a bit there! she is the second speedy! they are foils!!) (also generally how i see it written in fanon, it's usually quite different, even if similar)

i've seen cass too but tbh this baffles me unless it's about the au where lady shiva WAS jason's mom. like usually cass is heavily involved in those though, so???

honestly all of them act totally different, even in the most fanony shit i've seen, so even if backstory details were ~stolen~, i fail to see how theyre comparable. oh no! people have similar backstories! like okay the main thing is the characterization............

Hey guys what is it that jason steals from certain female characters? Like I'm genuinely asking because I don't know anything about them but can anyone like explain to me what traits and stuff he steals?