#I didn't get the kink info from my friend btw I got it from a book called SM 101 on the internet archive lol
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un-till-the-end · 8 days ago
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Ivan strangled Till in a way that would be lethal
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Whether or not he intended to kill him is another matter but pressing on Till's vocal cords like this is deadly. My friend, who's a medical resident, explained Ivan's thumbs are pushing on either side of the larynx. If the hyoid bone (at the top) is broken, it can cause severe damage to the airway. (The middle image below shows where Ivan's thumbs are pressing.)
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I questioned if Ivan's thumbs weren't pressing on the sternocleidomastoid muscle instead. The middle image is what he returned to me (blue representing Till's voice box/windpipe and red the sternocleidomastoid):
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"Isn't this the same method used for breath play?"
Fans have claimed Ivan is choking Till the way you would for erotic asphyxiation. The main problem with this argument is: there is no guaranteed "safe" way to choke someone.
The "method" used for breath play is pressing on the carotid arteries while avoiding pressure on the windpipe. This decreases blood flow to the brain both directly through constriction of the arteries and indirectly through compression of the baroreceptors triggering decreased blood pressure and heart rate. This can lead to cardiac arrest as well as permanent brain damage.
There are numerous ways breath play can be fatal including: cardiac arrest, respiratory alkalosis (decreased carbon dioxide increases blood pH), metabolic acidosis (decreased oxygen decreases blood pH), rupture of the windpipe, fracture of the larynx, blood vessel damage, stroke, seizures, and aspiration (saliva, vomit, etc. gets into airway/lungs). You cannot predict when someone will go unconscious and detection of an abnormal heart rhythm can already be too late.
Even if Ivan had strangled Till in the same manner as erotic asphyxiation, it would remain potentially lethal.
"Shouldn't Till have struggled?"
Another claim has been that Till would have autonomically struggled rather than going still. Research does not support this: there is no indication there is a universal reflex that occurs in all cases of strangulation. Not all strangulation victims have shown defensive movements.
Was this Ivan's intention?
My first impression from the Round 6 Behind was that Ivan had tried to kill Till, because he didn't know what he wanted to do. Vivinos explained:
With [the second draft], however, we felt that Ivan's emotions weren't being conveyed fully - so we decided to revise it once again. We made it so that viewers wouldn't be able to fully grasp Ivan's true feelings. After all, he's the only one who will ever know how he truly feels. You can't just move on from such long, deep-seated emotions in such a short time. Ivan tries to strangle Till, then kisses him, stares at him yearningly, and murmurs nonsense. His contradicting actions show his clashing emotions - he is both sure and unsure at the same time.
It's also explained that "in the end [Ivan] pours his emotions out and acts like a child." It's repeated again later that Ivan is "emotionally immature" and "expresses his emotions like a child." This gave me the impression that Ivan is just acting out and trying everything. He isn't acting with a plan in that moment, he is just expressing his emotions in every way possible.
However, in the most recent Q&A during Animate Thailand, it's answered Ivan strangled Till with the intent for Till to survive.
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This brings a lot of questions I can't answer. When did Ivan decide strangling Till would be the best way to save him? Did he originally try to kill Till and then shifted his goal to saving him instead? Did he plan to strangle him from the start? Did he have a plan at all?
Since this is a rare moment Ivan's behavior is being driven by his emotions, perhaps - much like Till's character - we cannot assess his actions logically. At some point, Ivan felt that this is what he needed to do to keep Till alive. There wasn't a plan, a structure, or a methodology. Ivan either didn't know or didn't even consider he could accidentally kill Till. He didn't realize strangulation can be fatal even without constricting his air supply. He only knew if he used violence to be disqualified - to be shot down - then Till would win by default.
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loakstahni · 2 years ago
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Since I'm taking a break from writing I figured I could give you guys some more info on my recom oc Colten!✨
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some are nsfw btw!
If you have anymorw questions about her feel free to ask me in my inbox!💞
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Colten is 21 years old (also 31)
She is 8 foot 10 inches tall
Colten's hair is a longer style of a wolf cut.
When she's mad she will done right hiss at anyone, like a feral cat. (Lyle thinks it's hot as hell)
She's vary bad at hiding her emotions. Her ears and tail normally give her away.
She has a strong dislike for rainstorm, bonus if its a thunder storm she gets PTSD flash backs.
Colten didn't die instantly when she was human. Her and lyle were close friends as humans and she was with his squad when he died. She ended up getting fatally shot and died two days later.
Thunder storms trigger her PTSD from when she was shot as human.
She doesn't remember who shot her but she knew it was a na'vi (Jake-)
Colten used to work with grace and norm as a field medic (in her avatar form) but she soon stopped going with them after she and neytiri got into a cat fight-
She signed up to become a sniper with Lyle, and he taught her everything her knows.
Colten's avatar form died due to stepping on a venomous plant that slowly ate away at her immune system.
Colten can't stand the sight of blood anymore, after having to try and save a little na'vi child when she was a field medic with norm and grace.
She knows a few words in na'vi, mainly greetings and a few curses.
She is vary well trained and skilled with her combat knife, she's done some crazy stuff with before.
In my mind I have Colten go through the advents of TWOW and stuff so she also has a ikran named bitsy.
Her ikran is black, red and orange.
During the war in TWOW she was stuck back at Bridge head with a blow out knee.
She has a tattoo of a thorn vine from her tail bone up to the base of her neck (spine tattoos I've heard hurt like hell-)
She secretly wanted her tits pierced but dropped that idea once she got pregnant.
She is vary affectionate with Lyle and their son. She's like a whole different Na'Vi behind closed doors.
Quaritch calls her "bitch face" because she has a RBF (resting bitch face)
She always just snaps back at him with come backs like "sure, gramps" or "better watch your wrinkly old ass." Etc.
She begs lyle to grow his hair out and gets mad and pouts whenever he shaves it all off again.
Colten still went on missions while pregnant with Owen, and Shes pretty sure her early labor started while on her last mission because she water broke two days later.
Nsfw below 🔞
Her favorite position is missionary and spooning.
She loves leaving bite marks on Lyle, there's something about it that's she can't get over. Seeing a big strong man covered in bites.
She has a soft spot behind her ears that only lyle knows of.
So whenever he touches it she whines.
She doesn't make much noise, shes more of a groaner or she'll make deeper moans then most woman. (But if she's in heat she's a whiny mess)
She is a big fan if breeding, she loves being filled up. But doesn't want another child at the moment so she kinda put breeding on hold-
Colten's kinks are breeding, biting, lactation and praise. Mainly because she doesn't get much praise for killing people-
She loves slow, sweet sex. Its her abosutle favorite.
She is a power bottom
Colten's clit is hyper sensitive (more then normal) (its a medical condition but i can't think of the name-)
She found out she had a lactation kink after she had put owen (their son) to sleep but her breasts were way to full and heavy still so lyle offered to help-
She loves it when Lyle moans👀
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