#have a real conversation in any way that matters. there's a war on and rhaenyra must act in certain way and do certain stuff and i think

[allyriadayne]

i've been getting a lot of comments on my post about how the writers have "ruined" jace and rhaenyra's relationship. but. my guys. it's never been a good or healthy relationship anyway! or at least it hasn't been for the past six years since jace found out he wasn't laenor's son. this hasn't happened to me but i can imagine it's difficult to have a truly good relationship with someone who has lied to you from the start and who /to this day/ still doesn't dare admit the truth. it's not a lie to say rhaenyra and jace love each other but it's not a lie either to say rhaenyra doesn't respect jace and is unable to put herself in his shoes, while jace resents her and is just now realizing she has more than a bit of guilt on all that has been tormenting him.

they both have put an opaque screen in front of them and through it they've been interacting and seeing each other since harwin died. jace's just barely realizing he has one and it's cleaning the glass while rhaenyra has known it since the beginning and doesn't wish it to go away. it's a really complex relationship but to say it's only /now/ that's been ruined when in most of their interactions rhaenyra is shutting him down or gaslighting the hell out of him......... sorry i just don't see it.

[queendaeron1]

Rhaenyra’s greatest mistake during the war was not giving antidepressants to Daemon—no but for real, Daemyra is such a painfully frustrating and sad dynamic when you really think about it (which is what makes it so compelling…) So I invite you to read this post : no, Rhaenyra was neither jealous nor racist, Mysaria did not manipulate her-Daemon was simply too worn out to come up with a rational state of mind and refused to blame his own wife. I beg you, you MUST hear me out. Because it makes Rhaenyra even more loveable So click on this link to my post—it’s not very well structured since I wrote it in a hurry, and I might work on another version someday—but it’s crucial to understand that the framing of Rhaenyra as a paranoid and easily swayed woman is entirely Eustace’s doing (and Gyldayn and men in general), part of a misogynistic campaign against her. Once you realise that the council room conversation (between Rhaenyra and Mysaria) NEVER actually happened—because Mysaria wasn’t even there—then it becomes clear that Rhaenyra simply ordered Nettles’ death after Addam fled and Corlys abandoned her (cause). Eustace merely invented a conversation to fill in the gaps… based on HINDSIGHT. Rhaenyra was acting on the advice of “honourable” (Torrhen Manderly) and “trustworthy” (her Queensguard’s Lord Commander) men. Just as any monarch would, and did. HERE’S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, as depicted in The Princess and The Queen aka the novella that barely features Eustace… are you starting to process it? Edit: the declaration of Nettles being guilty of High Treason in the raven—which Daemon wasn’t supposed to read—on the account of adultery was a pretext. This is where the rumours started—because of the raven, which explains why Mushroom mentioned it in his testimony, he’s simply relaying the rumours. In TPATQ, WHICH IS STILL CANON (save for minor changes) the “affair” is only mentioned when Lord Mooton read the letter… hahaha, interesting…

I would like to point out that the passage about Rhaenyra being betrayed all the time comes from Eustace’s account, written AFTER the war. He’s trying to tell us that she was kind of paranoid and expected the worst from any man… no brother. She’s following the counsel of her men. Eustace is projecting what happened AFTERWARDS on what hasn’t happened yet. And of course she’d be wary of Corlys’ stance: he’s directly concerned by this matter in particular, we’re talking about his (son) heir. And things were icy between Rhaenyra and Corlys, and after the Two Betrayers, she realised that he had realised that he had more to lose than to gain by supporting her cause. Her son wasn’t his heir, she just lost three dragons and he had ALREADY told Addam to flee

Even if she had decided not to arrest him, Addam would’ve fled, leaving only Syrax to defend the city. Corlys also refuses to speak—I underlined the words—fuelling the council’s panic There’s no jealousy narrative—Rhaenyra trusted Daemon in that regard. She’s not a madwoman, and in fact, she was emotionally more stable than Daemon. Maybe I’ll make a post about this someday. The thing is, this opinion is very unpopular, and I’ve been jumped MANY times on social media for expressing it lol—because for some reason it has to be Rhaenyra who’s failing somewhere. And I’m happy to defend my fav but I also have a concerning amount of ego and I DESPISE facing disagreements. I have very little patience too, anyway👍🏻

Daemyra is about two people who used to be happy and fulfilled, in a unique way for their society, and who ended up utterly broken apart not only by betrayal, but by the illusion of betrayal—by miscommunication, by pain they couldn’t process, by the belief that love and loyalty had turned to mistrust when it never actually had. Tragic

Daemon died because he couldn’t live with the thought that the woman he loved and protected believed the worst of him—and that he might’ve been the one to bring it about. He didn’t know what happened to Viserys at the Gullet. He never got closure. So when that godforsaken raven came it was the last straw. It was the moment he kind of collapsed: he wasn’t supposed to read that raven!!! That was fate’s not-so-funny jest. GRRM knew exactly what he was doing when he made Norren write “I saw the joy go from his eyes, and a sadness descended upon him, like a weight too heavy to be borne.” It’s not just a pretty phrase poetry-like, it’s literally a STATEMENT. IT’S. RIGHT. HERE. DAEMON’S JOY, THE ONE HE USED TO HAVE, LEFT HIM, AND THEN HE OFFED HIMSELF. Water is wet and fire burns…. Now, when Rhaenys said: “Dragonstone, where dragons thrive.” (Or something like that): that line is pure GRRM cooking. It’s a snapshot of Daemon’s peace—something he never had before he became a father for the first time, something he built with joy. His wife. His children. Their cause. And it fell apart overnight, starting with the death of their so long awaited daughter. And because of his roguish flaws—his tendency to lash out, his pride, his inability to face emotional vulnerability without turning it into rage or dramatic behaviour—he scapegoated Mysaria (and as I explained, IT WAS A MISTAKE) He threw everything away because he couldn’t cope with the that letter, BECAUSE he wasn’t able to see it for what it was: a misinterpretation, a crack in the mirror. Or no, that’s not right: AN ALARMING SIGH THAT SOMETHING WAS TERRIBLY WRONG AND THAT RHAENYRA REALLY NEEDED HIM AT HER SIDE. He killed Vhagar because he thought that it was the right thing to do. Had he known the truth of what was occurring in KL and Tumbleton, believe me, everything would’ve be different

And the 5 month gap between Daemyra’s deaths is not really a coincidence either. GRRM has made that kind of mirroring too many times for it to be anything else. About Daemyra, or about anything/anyone in the main series. Daemon had the role of a protector (literally protector of the realm) and when he failed in that regard due to his temper, it made Rhaenyra extremely vulnerable. To be fair, it is arguably a form of betrayal

There’s almost a disturbing glee some (Rhaenyra antis) have in insisting Daemon was cruel, unfaithful, dismissive. And they’re not even bashing Daemon here, they’re bashing Rhaenyra through him. But that just erases all the nuance. He loved his family and this is what ultimately led him to his self inflicted demise. Because Daemon is a very emotional and passionate character. That’s why it destroyed him when he thought that the mother/stepmother of his children no longer believed in him. He didn’t outright “abandon” (well, he did in a certain sense, but that’s just how suicidal gestures work) her willingly, to save Nettles (it definitely had something to do with it however) and humiliate his wife. Rhaenyra wasn’t unloved and Daemon didn’t die hating her. It’s literally the opposite??? Why exactly do you believe he was so sad when he read the letter? I mean if you look at the contrast between his reaction THERE and his reaction when he read the message about Viserys remarrying Alicent: they’re FLAGRANT displays of intense emotions. And why do you think that the first thing he did was to blame anyone BUT his wife? That he called “A Queen” in contrast of “A Whore” ? Are you people not able to understand that a line can sometimes hide a paragraph ? Did you not learn to analyse that kind of framing/prose/figure of speech? It’s not Daemon merely referring to Rhaenyra as Queen in a formal way. It’s very much intentional and a way to highlight an opposition (antithesis)

So the tragedy isn’t just that he abandoned her. It’s that he thought SHE already had abandoned him. He probably felt side lined and depreciated and thought that he had become an emotional liability (but that’s my headcanon though)

Now let’s focus more on Rhaenyra: she was only called cruel because she was a queen and not a king. Jaehaerys literally ordered the death of a 19yo who was a guest beneath someone's roof, and it was because the kid slept with a member of the royal family—Saera. Except in that case, there was no civil war, no betrayals, nothing. Jaehaerys himself knifed the boy with Blackfyre in the Red Keep-HIS OWN ROOF!!! Does this not remind you of a certain situation?

Had it been Rhaenyra? Oh man people would've gone absolutely MAD

He also implemented taxes to replenish the Crown's coffers, and he—albeit very nicely—pressured 40 something yo Alysanne into having more children, even bringing up the fact that their mother Alyssa had a child in her 40s (...she died in childbirth...). I've seen people call him a misogynistic scum, but never mad or cruel, isn’t it strange ?

If Rhaenyra had been a man...again. Cliché but true

Let's sum it up: if you believe that Rhaenyra ordered Nettles' death out of jealousy, you're falling for the "mad and emotionally unstable queen" trope. You're also implying that she's racist (she isn't). And, whether consciously or not, you've internalised Westerosi xenophobia, racism, even classism, and of course misogyny by accepting the bashing campaign against Mysaria as truth even though the ONLY, ONLY SOURCE is Eustace. The same man who claimed that Fat Rhaenyra allowed Daemon to sleep around, without providing any evidence to back this story as well. Not even Mushroom. Also just look at how Lyseni-and foreign women in general are described in F&B and ASOIAF as a whole. It's not unlike how Daenerys is described by her detractors yknow. So if you believe one thing, then you also should believe the visibly senseless other thing

Another thing—cliché (again) but necessary to bring up: just switch Daemon and Rhaenyra. How do you think Daemon would've reacted to the betrayals at Tumbleton? If he had been in her shoes?

Believe me, he would've been cruel and unforgiving. Rhaenyra, at the very least, wanted to interrogate Addam. It was only when he fled that she refused to grant him (and Nettles) another chance-because the situation was simply too dire to allow room for doubt. She feared that he had teamed up with the Two Betrayers and was on his way to convince Nettles to join their cause. Remember something: Rhaenyra barely knew Nettles. She didn’t trust them, not because they were bastards, but because she DID NOT KNOW THEM. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE HER MEN IN HER COUNCIL ADVISED HER NOT TO TRUST

So no, Rhaenyra didn't "commit mistakes" because she was grieving and vengeful, she chose the only options that were available to her, and never without the approval of her council

NEVER. Unlike Aegon Il who often dismissed his Lords' counsel. Daemon wanted to marry two young girls (Rosby and Stokeworth) to Ulf and Hugh as a reward, which would have effectively dispossessed their younger brothers of their inheritance. He also proposed the destruction of Houses Baratheon and Lannister.... I don't see anyone saying that he's acting out of grief though.. though I wouldn’t disagree with them, because the example I provided both occurred AFTER the Battle of the Gullet, and Viserys and Jace’s deaths. Very much logical conclusion

Rhaenyra's mistake was being born at the wrong time. Simple as that. The realm wasn't ready, and the Targaryens paid the price for spurning their women and their identity. That's Rhaenyra's story: being failed. She was named heir, had a family, dragons, powerful allies, her sons ruled—and yet it still wasn't enough. What does it tell women who didn’t have any of that ?

This is why it frustrates me when even team black people say "Viserys should've married her to someone else so she could have trueborn children" No!!!! And marrying her to Aegon wouldn't have changed anything either. Do you really think GRRM wrote this entire story just to say "Oh, this all could've been avoided if only the FEMALE heir had married her younger brother to make her claim valid"? Come on, it's like saying "Your mother died because I pushed her to have a son, then they both died, I named you heir because I don't want fuck ass Daemon on the throne, then I had other sons with your hostile stepmother and now I'm going to marry you to her eldest son because you were just an insurance policy and a tool to undermine my brother" story over-> women shackled as usual

There was nothing to be done: she wasn't meant to be. But she fought. She did everything she possibly could. SHE SAID IT HERSELF

"She would rain down fire and death upon Aegon and all those who supported him, she told the black council, and either tear him from the Iron Throne or die in the attempt."

don't you see? Don't you SEE?

[ride-thedragon]

To be honest, I feel this season would have been much better if the focus had shifted to the younger generation.... Imagine each of them dealing with their own struggles, being dragged into a war they didn't even start because of the ambition and pettiness of the adults around them. There wouldn't be any clear-cut good or bad side, no real wins, just losses. It would be far more intriguing to watch how they cope with loss, pressure, and the heavy obligations of being caught up in a war. Just the idea of seeing them grow amidst the chaos, their relationships evolving under the strain of conflict, and their attempts to make their own way in a world shaped by their elders' decisions – The whole Rhaenyra and Alicent beef is the least interesting part now. It was alright in season one; their conflict set the stage well enough, but this season, it just feels like it's dragging on.

I mostly agree with this. This season was said to be the season they focused on the kids. So far it's been better than last season but not better overall.

There were so many missed opportunities for potential interactions that are left up to the actors filling in the gaps or the fanon of the last two years lending itself to the canon. Rhaenyra is still contemplating a war 3 episodes in that Jace and Baela are ready to fight. Baela and Rhaenys don't have a conversation this season, the season she dies. We see Corlys and Rhaenys with Alyn but not once with Jace?

Helaena and Aegon have once scene after blood and cheese at the actors insistence.

Rhaenys doesn't get to say goodbye to Rhaena, her daughter's child?

They let the green kids interact with the adults around them because it plays into a conflict, but the black kids don't because they can't afford the conflict.

They let Rhaena get one conversation I that shows Rhaenyra in a bad light, and you'd swear they let off a bomb for the fans.

Conflict drives character development, and interaction drives character importance. Elinda Massey has more scenes with Mysaria than Rhaenyra's heir, who should be questioning her. Aegon has more scenes with his rat pack than his brother or hand individually.

These things need to be developed, especially developed further. Maybe they'll have us in the second half, but I'd be more surprised than hopeful, like when Rhaena and Baela hugging genuinely shocked me. Or how Jace's closest ally according to the marketing didn't get a goodbye from him and has been missing for an episode.

They seem to be trying. They need to try harder.

As for Rhaenicent, I loved their parallel in episode 1. The fact that it seems they can't escape each other when they're worlds apart because they are a part of each other in a really innocent way they still belong to no matter how deep the talons sink.

After that, it seems to be reason for plot sake rather than character motivations. It's so strange because they have characters voicing how insane the Septa Nyra plot was with her being like, "I had to know." She's allowed to be naive about her place in the war, but it's getting ridiculous. They are wasting Emma and their talent.

As for Alicent, she needed to find out that she was wrong and reckon with that but there are better ways. Her sons confronting her in private, a head with Cole, Otto waking her up, Rhaenyra responding and trying to convince her but Alicent refusing then reckoning.

They were the heart of the show, but I think it's time to let go of the idea slowly and let the narrative fall to the factions as they find their place on either side. I can at least hope that's where they are heading.

[darklinaforever]

DEATH OF DAEMON :

So my darlings! The debate is open ! Why didn't Daemon return to Rhaenyra's side (didn't hear from her) after the letter story, and why did he go fight Aemond? Simple suicide mission? Because he couldn't be with Nettles? If so, why bother with Aemond and wait 13 days for this?! Let's be real, there were other reasons than just dying in the lead. I'm waiting for your ideas, in the meantime here are mine:

To believe Daemon killed Aemond just because he wanted to die and / or couldn't be with Nettles is pretty stupid in my opinion.

Other details, if Daemon were to join Rhaenyra after the affair of the letter, it would only serve to directly prove that there was treachery towards her, essentially endangering the one to whom Daemon owes the life of Nettles, (whom I think he is grateful for) and partly his hosts who, from Daemon's point of view, have never seen this letter. (Surely doesn't want to be the direct reason for all of them falling)

And yes, I know that in the end, to avoid any risk, his former hosts decide to change their banners in favor of Aegon II. However, Daemon doesn't know, convinced that they simply haven't seen this letter, and in fact, he doesn't know either how long it will take for them to find out about "Maester Norren's betrayal".

Essentially, the goal here for Daemon is to pretend the letter never got to its destination and just continue with its original task. Task we all know.

Let's also not forget that Daemon is likely to think that Mysaria manipulated and still manipulates Rhaenyra to some extent. Remember this line when Nettles asks Daemon what Rhaenyra's letter contains:

“Queen's words, a work of whore. - Daemon Targaryen.

This sentence may indeed sound like a simple insult to Rhaenyra, but for us readers who know that Mysaria is the one who disclosed to Rhaenyra the supposed affair of Nettles and Daemon, Mysaria who is a former prostitute, well recognize that the coincidence is quite disturbing. This would suggest that Daemon might not have full confidence in Mysaria, though she was working for his and Rhaenyra's cause. After all, let's not forget that Mysaria is the greatest spy in the kingdom. Trusting him completely would be a mistake. Moreover, I recall once again, that we cannot even be sure that Daemon has really renewed an affair with the latter, because of the source reporting this, namely Maester Eustace. He may have been telling the truth, of course. But he might as well have been lying, or presenting as true what were in fact only rumors out of a desire to slander, or because he firmly believed in them himself. After all, the guy was pro-Green/Aegon II, and openly anti-Rhaenyra. So it wouldn't be unlikely on his part, especially when you know that the maesters generally didn't carry Rhaenyra and Daemon in their hearts.

By the way, back to Rhaenyra. If the latter was still plagued by a certain manipulation (by Mysaria), in addition to her deplorable mental state (due to being overwhelmed by the weight of the war and the mourning of her children), as well as her paranoia in addition excessive, this one would obviously not be prompt to a real immediate conversation. Daemon probably wouldn't have been accepted on those terms either, especially after allowing Nettles to escape. Obviously, to avoid Rhaenyra's wrath here would require some substantial positive act to regain her favor and full trust, prove her loyalty, and hope to be listened to without immediate retaliation falling on anyone. And we all know what act could specifically serve that purpose.

Kill Aemond.

From the outset, the hunt was ordered by Rhaenyra. It was in his name that Daemon and Nettles hunted him relentlessly every day. He was a consequent, unpredictable and active danger. Regardless that Rhaenyra wanted Daemon by her side at the time, Aemond (and Vaghar) were a tangible threat that needed to be stopped no matter what. This is what they were originally sent for.

Not to mention that Daemon had direct revenge to take against him. Son for son, remember? (son who was Rhaenyra's biological son incidentally) There is also no doubt this desire to preserve the Targaryen heritage of his house and his family. Let's also not forget that Daemon still has 2 daughters and a son whose protection in this world must be ensured. If Aemond lives, it won't.

But we also forget that Daemon had a history with Rhaenyra. They have always had love for each other, first family, then that is silent in something else. Consider the fact that he was one of his, if not downright, his most loyal supporters. Think of their rushed and scandalous secret marriage, the early birth of Aegon III, their 10 years of marriage, the fact that he always stood up for his stepsons, to the point of falling into outright revenge at the Luke's death. They formed a family for 10 years! Do you think it leaves no trace? To think that Rhaenyra had absolutely nothing to do with the decision to go kill Aemond, whether Nettles is her lover or not, is frankly fatal. Rhaenyra has been a full part of Daemon's life, and he has always fought for her and her birthright.

Encore une fois, je ne nie pas que Daemyra se soit détériorée et que Nettles ait pu être l'amante de Daemon. Et si elle l'était (et même si elle ne l'était pas), oui, elle a probablement joué dans la décision finale d'aller combattre Aemond. Mais cela n'a JAMAIS, au même titre que simplement mourir, les seuls facteurs uniques et/ou principaux de cette décision. Daemon voulait probablement tuer Aemond dès la mort de Luke, bien avant que Nettles, et/ou ses pensées suicidaires (si elles existaient vraiment), n'entrent dans l'équation.

Daemon also seems to have come to the inevitable conclusion that as long as he was accompanied, so not alone, he would never be able to corner Aemond. At least it would still take some time to get there, and Daemon and Nettles have already wasted a lot of that in the initial hunt. Yes, Daemon knows there is very little, if any, chance that he will survive this confrontation. That's why he had Nettles by his side. However, if he lets things drag on, Aemond could well wreak havoc.

Because yes, as I said before, Daemon had an undeniable revenge to take on Aemond since the latter had killed Luke. To think that Daemon killing Aemond was nothing like an act of revenge and just suicide, is stupid. "An eye for an eye, son for son. Lucerys will be avenged." Daemon killed Aemond by literally planting Dark Sister in his remaining eye. The grudge is evident.

But also, Aemond was the Greens' greatest asset, the greatest threat to Rhaenyra's cause. That's a fact. By killing Aemond, not only his greatest threat but also his son's murderer, Daemon undeniably died serving, in his own way, Rhaenyra and her cause.

Now let's move on to the most debated question.

Did Daemon want to die? If we only and simply take into account the last exchange of Daemon, especially in the first degree, then yes the latter wanted to die.

“You have lived too long, uncle. - Aemond Targaryen.

“On this point at least, we agree. - Daemon Targaryen.

Do not forget that Daemon lived long enough for a man of his time, that he had to endure a horrible war, the beginning of which was marked by the death of his brother, the death of his daughter Visenya, and the death of his son-in-law Luke. He saw Rhaenyra, his niece, his wife, the mother of his children, his family, his queen, gradually sink into paranoia and visibly a certain madness. One by one he lost his stepsons and is now convinced that his second biological son, Viserys II, is also dead. Now Nettles, the person he seems to have become closest to (in any way) in this whole ordeal, has also been snatched away from him by one of the people he probably loves the most. Because yes, don't forget that beyond being his wife or his queen, Rhaenyra is above all Daemon's niece and the mother of his children, so he cannot, (and given the link that they have always maintained also) no longer have any affection for her. That Rhaenyra asks for Nettles' death must come as a shock to him, whether or not an affair took place with the young woman.

So judging by his last words, Daemon was obviously okay with the idea of ​​having lived too long, hiding, maybe, yes, suicidal thoughts/urges as some fans suggest. Maybe, yes, he wanted to die, thus making his last act a kind of suicide.

However, even that cannot be sure either.

Daemon would have (and I insist on this word would have) said that, okay, but is it certain that he really wanted to die for that? We can have suicidal impulses and phases of depression without really and definitively wanting to end our days. Maybe, then, even though the odds were less, he had hope for a way out, but when he finally saw Aemond riding Vaghar coming, reality slammed into his face, hence this replica. Daemon had 13 days to think about it after all, and we don't know what specifically went through his mind during that time. Exactly, maybe he had hope to get out of it, because his goal was to bring Aemond's head back to his queen? We'll never know. After all, remember Daemon's possible suspicions about Mysaria, and his possible desire to win back Rhaenyra's loyalty and love.

Also, a very important detail that I never see anyone questioning: Are we really certain of Daemon's last words? Had he really confirmed that he had lived too long? Let us not forget that there were very few witnesses to this event, so few indeed, that a considerable time elapsed before history full story of Daemon Targaryen's Last Battle is known. Is it possible Daemon's last lyrics were altered, fictionalized, or even made up? That, I guess, we never will be either.

The only thing we can be sure of is that Daemon died (because yes, there are no other options, to think he survived like the singers is pretty crazy) fighting Aemond. Aemond, who I remember, is Luke's killer, her stepson, Rhaenyra's son, but also the greatest threat to Rhaenyra and her cause. This is not nothing, and certainly not a coincidence.

So to say that Daemon only went to kill Aemond because he wanted to die, and / or because he couldn't be with Nettles, is pretty ridiculous to me. Yes, Nettles probably (again) had an impact on Daemon's decisions at the time, but she wasn't the only one to enter into the equation, including the possible "want to die/suicide mission" aspect. from Daemon, which, you'll understand, I don't really believe in. Otherwise, in my opinion, it's pretty reductive, significantly undermining our favorite rogue prince's last living act.

Let's not forget that Daemon is a man proving his affections, his loyalty and his love precisely through acts, sometimes even really excessive according to what the series has shown. So to think that to prove his loyalty and fidelity to Rhaenyra, the latter is able to go on a suicide mission instead of going to join her and talk to her directly, is not improbable. It is even highly plausible. Just think of episode 3 of the series, where Daemon almost goes on a suicide mission by serving as bait/distraction for the entire enemy army! This was obviously meant to prove that he could handle and conclude this situation on his own without the help of his brother, thus proving his worth. But let's face it, it was also clearly (and mostly) meant to make his brother proud and win back his affections and trust. So, going to kill Aemond, alone, although there's a good chance he'll be there and never come back, all for the very purpose of winning back his wife's affections, trust and love, is totally Daemon Targaryen-like. If he finally does the same for Rhaenyra at the end of the series, it wouldn't surprise me that much.

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#5

So, Viserys considers Rhaenyra his only child...Not even his favourite his ONLY child. Does that mean Alicent was sold off as a teenager for nothing? Does that mean she endured years of marital rape by a decaying man for nothing? Does that mean she was deprived of the chance of a happy marriage and a happy life for nothing? Does that mean Rhaenyra lost her best friend for nothing? Does that mean three (or four, actually) children were conceived for nothing? Did anything Viserys did besides naming Rhaenyra his heir matter to him at all?

115 notes - Posted October 14, 2022

#4

What happened to Luke was the perfect example as to why it was so nonsensical of Daemon to even consider the young dragons and their riders as any sort of asset in battle. These are just kids we're talking about, who have never fought in their lives. It's not just about numbers or size, it's about experience. Vhagar was part of Aegon's conquest, she has fought in a real war, unlike the others. She knew what she was doing when she let Arrax seemingly get an advantage by flying above the clouds. She did that on purpose so that she could surprise him and catch him off guard. And all of that without any orders from Aemond. We saw what happened when one small dragon blew fire in Vhagar's face. I can't even imagine what would have happened if they had all attempted surrounding her, which is what Daemon seemed to be getting at. I'm glad at least Rhaenyra had the sense to point out the obvious.

117 notes - Posted October 27, 2022

#3

There's just something so gross about invalidating a disabled man's feelings regarding his disability, but team Black stans aren't ready for that conversation.

128 notes - Posted October 28, 2022

#2

The people who praise Viserys for favoring Rhaenyra and excusing all of her actions while he mistreats his other children, confuse and disgust me at the same time. First of all, if Aemond was the main character that the narrative wants you to sympathize with, y'all would be fawning over him for being the soft boi with Daddy issues that just didn't get enough love when he was little and that's why he's evil now. But since he's an obstacle in Rhaenyra's way and therefore the villain of the story, y'all are cheering when his own Dad doesn't give a fuck about him and shows it at every turn. It's sickening, actually.

And also, do you guys not realize it was Viserys who decided to get married again and have more kids. No one forced them on him. Even if there were expectations for him, he could have dismissed them, just like he does with the accusations against Rhaenyra. He put Rhaenyra's succession into question by having multiple other children.

Also Aegon, Haelena and Aemond are just as much Targaryens as Rhaenyra is, like wtf? Just because their parents aren't related, that doesn't mean they are less part of the dynasty y'all claim Viserys is supposedly supporting by turning a blind eye on Rhaenyra's actions.

261 notes - Posted October 7, 2022

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I have to say, i'm team Greens this episode. Aemond lost an eye and the only person who seems to realize the extend of his trauma is his Mother. Like, Viserys was more concerned about the accusations against Rhaenyra than he was about his own son being assaulted by his grandson and becoming disabled in the process. And Rhaenyra really tried to minimize what had happened by shifting the conversation about HER and not about the person who is most likely in unimaginable pain.

Also, Aemond is right. His nephews and nieces did attack him first. They started it, because one of them felt entitled to a dragon. No, Vhagar didn't belong to Rhaena. As Dany said, a dragon is no slave. It's not an old sweater that you pass down to someone. If Vhagar saw Aemond as unworthy of her, she would have rejected him.

Also, I love how it's outrageous that Aemond would claim Vhagar right after Laena's death, but Daemon sleeping with his niece the day after his wife's funeral is A-OK.

Also, I love how, just like her son, Alicent is right about what she said and gets punished for it. She's expected as a Mother to be devoted to her kids, but when she is, she's some kind of a monster or insane? I admit, she went too far with asking to take Luke's eye out, but tell me how a parent could remain calm when their child has just been maimed and when they're told it's not that big of a deal.

622 notes - Posted October 3, 2022

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