#qsmp crit

[pommunist]

‼️ This is very important so please read ‼️

The ex-admin for Dansir, Lapin, and Sk8ter (a penguin) came out on Twitter with her experience as a QSMP admin and it’s very grim. The user is @/Leasagne_ on Twitter.

I’m gonna try my best to translate from French :

1st Tweet : « Imagine having the first multilingual minecraft server in the world and paying your staff 150€/month and threatening to sue them if they complain. »

2nd Tweet: «  «You signed an NDA blablabla if you speak we’ll sue you. » Yeah Yeah, sure. They think they can gift me a toy and i’ll forgive them and shut my mouth. They don’t know who they are facing »

3rt Tweet : Talking about the NPC she played « Dansir, Tototte, my version of Cucurucho and Lapin won’t come back. Enough of treating people who give a lot of themselves like trash »

She then tweeted art she made for QSMP that she hasn’t been paid for. This include for exemple a Rose drawing, a Lucy drawing and the Techno fanart from Dia de los muertos event.

4th tweet : « Everyone is burnt out in their entreprise but it’s not a problem bc no one can talk or they risk getting sued. »

She then make a serie of tweets explaining why they got fired : « During a stream, Aypierre leaked my name, thanks dude, they saw that i was talking to him on discord, which is a FORBIDDEN THING. I was then accused of leaking things to him, bc on the screenshot, i was talking about DDOSon the server which is considered sensitive information. There was then an investigation on me, which i said was useless as I didn’t have anything to hide and was ready to answer all their questions. I admitted not following the rules (btw it’s forbidden to have chatrooms BETWEEN ADMINS, that’s why I wasn’t following the rules). We aren’t allowed to talk to streamers out of stream, but everyone does it i was just caught doing it. »

She also added some more stuff

-Saying that they were only TWO french admins (the other being Pomme’s) and OP had to do all the translations of QSMP newspapers, as well as adding articles on french CCs as they had been forgotten.

-Said that Empanada wasn’t supposed to be killed that day, it was an accident.

-Said that Pomme’s death, which was reversed, was forced so that « Baghera would have a tragic reaction »

-Said that the QSMP admin staff are all wonderful people with good dynamics, higher ups are the problem.

-Said that she believes Quackity isn’t aware that this is happening.

-Said that now QSMP ccs are aware that this is happening and want to discuss it with the admins.

I’m on my phone so it’s hard to include screenshots or links of everything so if you’re able to feel free to do it by reblog. I’ll add more things as soon as possible.

https://x.com/leasagne_?s=21&t=fDVoT5qDN_AAqnxYhZF3uQ

[mmyashas]

after seeing the tropes trend on twitter ive realized how much people mischaracterize the hispanics on the qsmp on here (and other places too) ........Like quick describe qmissa w anything other than "wet cat" or qmariana without being tied down to qslime

[lockoutkey]

“quackity’s name is attached to the QSMP project and therefore he is inherently responsible for any problems within the admin team” AND “quackity might not have even known what was going on so we shouldn’t automatically blame him for this situation” are two statements that should coexist rn

[sharptoothed-gaze]

Honestly, I'm not ready for a Qsmp 2 entirely because I still don't trust QStudios management. As of right now, they've actively done nothing to show me any internal improvement. It's actually been either the same or worse.

I love this project with my whole heart, and because of that I don't want manufactured hype for a season 2. Soooo yeah seeing a big red 2 to keep super fans hooked doesn't inspire positivity or hope for me.

[valictini]

People be like "it's OK to take a break from everything!!" without realising that it's not a break for fans who were following the french ccs. It's a permanent leave.

Like, imagine that your favorite egg(s) and cc(s) left because of mismanagement overnight. Really, imagine it for a second. Your faves don't show up anymore. Quackity doesn't even acknowledge they're gone despite the fault lying on his studio. Imagine having to "take a break" after that. Truly put yourself in our shoes for a second.

You need to realise that right now, "Taking a break" feels more like "accepting that we're being kicked out without a word"

It is. Deeply. Deeply. Frustrating. Especially since the problems in question were consistently pointed out by fans and ccs.

Also, for the record, I DID try to take a break. And then literally the next day Pomme's and Dapper's admins left. So yeah I'm done waiting. I want solutions to the problems we've been screaming about for months.

If not for us, then at least for the rest of you.

Sorry if you think im being impatient. That i don't give Quackity enough grace. But the problem with the integration of the french community started day one. It's normal for us fans to assume the best, to assume that surely, those were just one-off errors and that they were being resolved behind the scene. But it's not normal for Quackity to do the same.

How tf did Quackity let it slide for so long without investigating the cause? Did he even notice/care that we were consistently left out? How did he not know that Lumi was the only french admin on the team? Why did he seemingly not talk to any of the admins in private even ONCE in an entire year ?

Say what you want, that he's young, that he's overwhelmed, that he never managed such a big team, that he blindly trusted the management he put in place, all that is true... but that doesn't erase the fact that he himself took these risks. It's his own fault for creating such an ambitious server without the necessary skills to oversee every aspect of it. And im sorry if his mental health takes a toll because of this situation but it is NOT hate to point these facts out.

[qsmp-yaoi-island]

Me, November: Well, the ending of purgatory was awful and burnt so many people out, but the server can only start to pick back up from here!

March:

[etoilesbienne]

after talking with other people i feel like there really is a disconnect between everyone who has other povs they still have left and everyone who just lost all of their povs (the french)/lost most of their pov's lore (bbh with dapper and pomme). like everyone is stressed and some people are making jokes and i get it i really do i like humor in dark situations, but like... this is the worst case scenario that's happened for everyone who did lose everything. pomme said she wasn't coming back to the server and the french cc all said they wouldn't be coming back if she didn't. i don't feel like joking right now. this situation isn't like the previous two cc who were removed for their own actions, this one was because the studio didn't attempt anything to try to retain a whole language after frequent year-long workplace abuse. this doesn't feel like goofy lore drama anymore it's like, wow we really did lose everything. all because nobody in the upper staff knew how to dm an admin. i wish them well is a nice sentiment and all but i feel a little bit callous to it when the reason they're leaving is that no one talked to them. it was all preventable. no shit sherlock of course i'm upset and my posts reflect that. i wish every post i made being critical of this didn't come across like doomposting. even if qsmp recovers all of the parts i loved most got uselessly cut off in the process. there's not much left i can go back to. even if they replaced pomme's actor there's not going to be cc to come back for that. there's just going to be a hole in the server now when i watch. i feel like i'm going through every stage of grief. i don't want the server to burn down, i'd love to see it continue, but i'd be lying if i said i wasn't terribly bitter about everything.

[qtubbo]

Looking back on all the jokes Tubbo would make about the admins being paid little or not all, because he fully believed there was no possible way that would be actually happening, that the admins must be getting paid well because they do so much. To see the admins just silently avoid the jokes, or move on quickly just feels so horrible to look back on. These poor admins, they deserved so much more.

[pixelcubito]

This narrative that's been spreading about how Cherry and Ryan left the project so that's why their characters didn't get a goodbye. They didn't. They never left. They were simply left aside. I'd even dare say that the only "wrong" thing they did was support every admin that came out with their experiences.

[pommunist]

‼️ Antoine started his live talking about the QSMP admins situation, Lea speaking up, and Pomme ‼️

-Recapped the situation : about two weeks ago, Aypierre accidentally leaked a random discord convo between him Pomme and Lea, which is what launched the situation

-He doesn’t really understand why the admins can’t talk with them (the ccs) in private.

-Think it’s a bit extreme that she got fired and wanted with Pierre to send a message to avoid her being fired. They didn’t do it because Lea started to collect things that were going wrong behind the scenes and sent a long document about it to them.

-Antoine thinks she was right to do so and was chocked to learn everything that was going on, especially that people weren’t paid and threatened if they complained.

-Him, Etoiles, Baghera and Aypierre wrote a long message in english they wanted to send to Quackity, calling out the situation. They didn’t got to send it on time as Lea went public before that and then Quackity went live.

-He said that he fully supports people who spoke up about the situation.

-He said there is no QSMP without the admins and said if there is no drastic changes about the managing of QSMP, with proof, he’ll personally never come back because he doesn’t want to support a project that exploits people.

-He said : « Pay people who work for you. If you can’t pay them, don’t expect them to endure the workload of someone who is paid. The least you can do is at least treat them nicely and fairly. »

-Knows that Pomme’s admin was doing a lot of work in the server and she did get put off the white list on the admin discord and got her accesses revoked.

-Won’t play QSMP ever again if Pomme has to change admins.

-Thinks that what Quackity said during his live is a good start but things must change. He’s optimistic about it and believe positive change can happen if what must be done is done.

[pyrosomatic-metamorphosis]

tbh i think that even unwinnable fights should be winnable. some of the BEST fights i've ever run as a dm were ones i built kill the players (in a fun way. I had some cutscenes prepped so even the loss would be a different flavour of win)- but then they were clever bastards and managed to either win the fights or pull themselves out of trouble. I think it's perfectly fine to plan for a fight that players aren't supposed to win, but you need to let them. if they can't win, they can't lose, and the meaning of that encounter is diminished. do that too many times, and they stop trusting you to give them roleplay prompts and start expecting to sit there waiting while you drive the story for them.

but if they can win... if there is always the chance to win, no matter how impossible the odds, then they ALWAYS have hope. they always get invested. they feel the big emotions of success or the big emotions of failure, and you fucking Win as a dm/roleplay prompter/lead bastard.

[aroaceacacia]

while we are talking about qsmp administration. WHERE IS POLISPOL. WHY HAVE THEY GATEKEPT POL FROM THE SERVER FOR MONTHS.

[sharptoothed-gaze]

I’ll probably be bitter forever about the things Purgatory has done to our fandom. We all underwent incredible amounts of stress because we thought the eggs’ lives were all at risk. It fractured and divided us in such lasting ways.

We all legitimately thought that if our team lost then the most beloved players on the server, characters we canonically think of as children, would be killed. That’s fucked up! It’s now double fucked up in my eyes because there wasn’t even a point!!!

There was no planning and the idea of a “cursed team” was bullshit. We know from a few signs from eggs like Dapper and Tallulah that even they didn’t know what the deal with the cursed team was and it sucks to know that apparently NO ONE knew. Tubbo and all of us fans were investigating and trying our best to prevent disaster and it was completely pointless.

I’ve seen so many people who, to this day, still can’t watch Bolas or Soul Fire streamers because of how much they experienced.

I’ll be so honest, it took me close to a month to be able to watch Badboyhalo without feeling some level of upset. This is a guy I had been watching and appreciating the work of for MONTHS then one two week span mentally turned me against him. The only thing which pulled me out of that is reminding myself that I realistically have no real problem with him. Everyone was just in a horrifically stressed frame of mind and we were dividing ourselves even though all of us want the best for the eggs.

I was probably able to do that /because/ I was both a Bolas and Soul Fire watcher. I was fighting to see both sides, but damn. The stress and fear around Purgatory actively made that so difficult. I’ve been upset for awhile about the division in some of our fandom spaces, and now that I know for certain about the absolute failure of storytelling that happened here, it feels so much worse to me.

[valictini]

I'm just. Idk man.

Obviously they want us to trust that everything is okay behind the scene by bringing back Chayanne and Tallulah like "See? They're back! And theyre doing lore!! So dont worry!" And i want to believe that but I don't understand why they can't just. Make an official announcement. Not make people guess what they mean. Stop the entertainement train for 2 seconds to actually confirm that changes happened.

Why is the returning of previously unpaid employees with no actual confirmation that they are paid now treated like a fun lore moment? Why is every important decision always announced in such an indirect manner? Why do we have to guess their intentions and make a leap of faith every time something new happens?

I mean I know the answer, this is to keep the fans hooked, not reminding fans of the studio's mistakes and let the streamers who put all their eggs in the QSMP basket (ha) continue creating interesting content on the mostly empty server... but why does this take priority over contacting the people that were exploited?

They could have had both. They could have had this "the show must go on" attitude without ghosting all the victims. They could have tried to make it less public without relying on the fans'past attachment to the project to keep trusting them.

We are not privy to any detail, but if we had had confirmation from ex admins that they were being heard and would be solving things privately, i would have accepted it and trusted the process. But alas, that's not what happened... (maybe it's happening rn but our last update was apparently from sunnys admin 4 days ago saying that they had no update, so you know)

[qsmp-yaoi-island]

I know the qsmp isn't ending, but when it does, there better be a world download available, even if it's just for the ccs. Foolish did not deserve to lose his mind for 6 months on the Titan for that to go to waste

[etoilesbienne]

while i still stand by the concept that i think this reset is overall good for the server, the new capitalism system is driving me up the wall. if its supposed to be to make things more accessible to players who log in less, they really need to make it so the shops are optional and not the only way to obtain the items. if items are already a pain in the ass to get and are therefore better quality: that is fine. that's how game mechanics work. disabling high tier weapons because theyre op is one thing, but disabling hard to obtain high tier weapons, only to make them obtainable solely through the shop, is an issue. that doesn't incentivize gameplay, that incentivizes repetitive coin grinding. this is just making the difference between the sweats of the server and casuals even more stark.

the waystones are their own can of worms entirely, players cant pick them up. you can only buy them through the store. this means players... uh can't actually pick up purchased waystones they've already placed. making warpstones cost 2k coins is also an issue, it just sets it up for /only/ the grinding sweats to have access to an item solely exists to make the server accessible and convenient. i also don't know if others are aware, but by default the waystone mod does not cost anything at all. the cost feature was always an implementation done by administration. i genuinely do not get what the deal is with waystones theyre made to make servers more convenient. nobody wants to watch a 2 hour stream of someone slowly walking to other people's bases. its annoying! and it isn't like waystones are cheap to make, they all cost 4 ender pearls each, and on a server with not even the nether open currently to access a warped forest, much less the end, that's expensive as hell.

backpacks are their own deal i can't even get into. theyre a conveniency tool. barring anything over iron is wild and kinda dumb.