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azenta · 5 years ago

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ur really good at articulating the sx experience lol..i wanted ur thots on the sx energy burning out. if an sx user sx-ed with a thing that no longer gave them that charge they would immediately drop it nd look for something else...but how does that apply to ppl nd relationships? granted sx-users have no intention of thinking about when the charge dies out (like sx-blinds)but when it does what do they do? drop them? or do they have a convo about why they want to leave nd proceed to do so? thanky

They can do either: drop or talk it out. Because that kind of issue is more related to healthiness and maturity than the sheer IVs themselves.

Unhealthy Response

When unhealthy and/or immature, they can drop you because the spark isn't intense "enough", according to their also unhealthy perspective, or dies out "too easily", or even because it's "too hard" to maintain and it feels easier to jump to one flame to another. They can also do the opposite and rather latch onto you because it was "too good" and so keep you for very selfish reasons, revealing in them a really possessive, jealous and manipulative little bitch that do everything to keep you around and try to spark things up to the point of burning and crashing to inevitable destruction (more likely Sx dom).

This is mainly because when unhealthy, the auxiliary tends to be either ignored as there is a distorted perception that the dominant is never satiated enough, and this leads to perceive the auxiliary as a waste of time (level 7 to 9 of health). Or the auxiliary is recognized as a tool, but used poorly at the cost of the auxiliary need itself (level 5 to 6~7).

For unhealthy Sx/sp, it leads them to see maintenance/preservation of relationships as either too harsh to do or pointless, leading to drop and abandon relationships willingly, or they view this maintenance as so !!!IMPORTANT!!! they refuse to let the flame dies out and goes overboard to maintain the given relationship to a point it intoxicates it and ends up killing it anyway. They destroy themselves in the process, ironically.

For unhealthy Sx/so, they see bonding, reciprocation and the feeling of belonging with the given person not as important either, leading to superficial empty relationships (same for Sx/sp denying sp) and abandoning or ignoring every relationship that doesn't provide this intensity. Or they jump within every single relationships relentlessly and ignites all of them without consideration to how the other feel in it, leading to consume and burn to ashes every single one of them even before anything could happen or destroying any foundation they had. They impose their Sx in every Soc relations, rather than use Soc to seek the ones that can give Sx.

For unhealthy So/sx, they'll tune out Sx as it will be seen as nuisible (complementarity, affinities, energy/intensity), so even if the spark was still there, they'll ignore or neglect it to not restrain their Soc, or they'll start doing something slightly similar to Sx/so and start igniting every relationships crossing their way, also leading to their inevitable destruction. The difference is So/sx use Sx "fire" as a way to light up their soc relationships, to make them "stronger/spicier", while Sx/so use Soc to provide more and more fuel to Sx (as a metaphor, soc becomes the woods to make the fire that is Sx bigger).

And for unhealthy Sp/sx, as above, they'll ignore it as it will be seen as a threat to Sp, or they'll start to ignite their relationships to "test" how tough they are, leading also to destruction because they'll make it burn until it cannot anymore, so until it is turns to ashes, "confirming" it wasn't that lasting (sp concern) anyway.

Healthy Response

Now, when healthy, they can still decide to drop it, because some relationships aren't worth pursuing if it actually lacks this much Sx quality to them, or talk it out, share their expectations and needs, and find compromise or ways to make it last healthily.

Healthy Sx/sp recognize Sp as its own set of needs, and therefore also incorporates the notion that they can maintain the level of intensity (energy) in their relationship without constantly pushing for intensity (transformation). They know there are boundaries and limits to be taken into account, and that demanding "more, more and more" actually leads to the loss and destruction of the relationship, because it breaks and over push those limits. Instead of transforming they just crash. They'll realize the reason why they never were satiated is because destruction without renewal doesnt lead to the transformation (mate/merge) Sx actually seeks, thus why they kept seeking for more.

Therefore, healthy Sx/sp will not drop relationships if they see the energy lowering, and might actually retreat from it more so to let time for both party to care for themselves and come back when they'll have enough resources to light up the fire again (/to merge, mate, get that enlightening moment, which demands lot of energy and synergy). Or another cute metaphor for it, they'll go seek woods in the forest, which requires a certain amount of it and so, also some time, in order to make a fire again. So, they'll go wander in their forest.

Healthy Sx/sp learned to recognize that a relationship is built with two individuals with different needs and aspirations, thus needing to do different things at different times, and so that it needs to be considered to keep the energy flowing. It demands energy to transform through one another, this is why they learn to respect Sp as a way to prepare for those times and moments to be able to "burn" bright (/vibe/flow/transform/"mate") with their people again. To take back the metaphor, they recognized some might be faster to gain wood, some in greater quantity, other in lesser quantity in less amount of time, due to a variety of reasons, ranging from "physical" limitations to different motivations (one wanting more wood, the other less) or even contextual ones (encountering wild animals, not finding wood, etc.). And some don't care about "wood" itself and have other methods (see Sp blinds). Therefore, they stop using Sp as a way to possess and leech people of their energy, as the resource itself, they rather place boundaries between them and their chosens instead of trapping their people within them.

They might also decide to cut out some people if they deem that the synergy is rather too destructive and so, doesn't lead to transformation but rather destruction, or that it just doesnt bring anything transformative. So it is too dull and doesnt bring anything out from each other, it is too stagnant and the energy barely moves and flows. There is absolutely nothing good about keeping a stagnant relationship. They will talk it out if they are worried about the synergy dying for good, and that's where they'll resort to Sp to help Sx gains some fuel and so are likely to retreat to do their activities, and to let you do yours, and "come back" after some times of resourcing.

Also, when they retreat, since they neglect Soc, they neglect to reciprocate and bond with people on a more lightly and regular basis, thus why they vanish for periods of time or are barely talkative or even deny any talking. But worry not, they just established boundaries they deem necessary to preserve synergy. Or if you are worried and are a soc user, directly ask them rather than make scenarios about it. Tho, when Sx/sp get healthier, they usually allow some place for basic Soc and can show some reciprocation and do some talking instead of becoming extreme shut in when in Sp mode. So, you have even more reasons to ask them some news.

Healthy Sx/so will rather learn that one person or people in general cannot always prodigue you with intensity even if they want to, thus why it matters to reach other people and create new connections. They'll learn that to enhance the intensity and make it last, bonding and reciprocating actually help and temper the flame to make it bearable all while still being intense and transforming. They'll also recognize that belonging into groups or networks help them achieve better transformation and "mating" (/merging) and that creating many connections doesn't lower the intensity they invest in some of them, but rather help balance them out. Again, with the forest metaphor, they'll turn themselves to many (groups or many unrelated people) instead of one individual at a time to gain the resources to enlight Sx faster. Or they'll light up many fire at a time to be sure to always have a flame somewhere burning. As a group or alliances, the solidarity (thx to soc) is what keeps feeding the fire more than the wood itself (Sp) for sx/so.

They'll also learn to distinguish actual transformation from destruction like healthy Sx/sp, and so will be more aware that to gain Sx they dont need "more" of it but rather need something that helps them feed it and renew it (bigger flame vs feeding and caring for the flame). So, they'll also stop using soc as an escape route the moment Sx lowers in one of their connection and use it as a way to care for Sx (running away and burning other's wood (boundaries) just to gain a flame then leaving when it dies) .

Contrary to Sx/sp, they won't retreat to let the "flame" rest but rather engage other people while the chosens are resting or doing their life, as illustrated in the metaphor above. They'll also take news and interact now and then anyways to see where the person's at and how the energy feels as of now, as a mean to give some fuel but without engaging full Sx if it still feels unstable (not enough wood /energy). Where they'll have more trouble is actually the maintenance (vs consistence for Sx/sp). Since they don't value Sp (even tho, i'll argue the healthier they are, the more they recognize value to Sp), they can tend to disappear similarly to Sx/sp and then burst out of nowhere and chitchat like you never did before to then get lost in many other connections for a while. They'll be much more volatile if Sx is not that much present to a point of feeling distant or disappearing out of the blue for unknown period of times. On that Sx/sp can be more stable when they actually come back to you, but both Sx/so and Sx/sp can become wandering ghosts since lacking in either Soc or Sp makes them unreliable with the consistency and maintenance aspect of relationships. Metaphor again; Sx/sp will wander in the forest for the longest and be willing to discuss only until they can light up the fire, while Sx/so will run around from fire to fire to take part of those fire and bring it back to you, until there is enough fuel (usually "wood" aka energy) to light it up more intensely. They'll be more often present (frequency) through in and out than Sx/sp, but also stay for shorter periods (duration), while Sx/sp stay longer but come more rarely.

So, like healthy Sx/sp, they might try to talk it out if they get worried, but will wander in other connections or choose Soc methods such as casual bonding with you if they perceive the flame is either dying or becoming too destructive, as a mean to temper the flame. They can end up cutting people out for the same reasons as healthy Sx/sp if they judge it lacks any transformative component or it is too destructive.

Healthy So/sx will learn to recognize the value of Sx as its own needs, and that having many connections can be great, but can also be awful if there is no synergy and transformative component into their relationships. They'll learn that fewer but stronger connections is better than many shallow ones, and that it doesn't restrain them from pursuing new connections but rather help them weed out the "unworthy" ones. Metaphor time: they'll recognize that having a goal (creating a fire) helps bringing more solid solidarity and create the sense of belonging. Fire reunites and make people work for the greater good.

Again, healthy So/sx will also discern destruction from actual transformation and will thus not ignite relationships that are naturally devoided of them because of their nature (ex. professional networking, it could help but it is unecessary). They'll recognize the need to choose them more carefully and be able to strengthen their connections more properly. Again, metaphor, instead of burning each pile of woods just because they believe it is what everyone need, they'll seek people that actually are ready (enough wood) and want to ignite a fire (that have the actual goal to create a fire, instead of building a house with it like some would prefer).

Therefore, when healthy, So/sx are not likely to drop an Sx connection. However, they will not prioritize them over the Soc aspect of it, so if you are exclusively an Sx connection, you might be put aside more often. However, it doesn't mean it's because they don't appreciate you nor doesn't care, but rather that 1. They prioritize other ways of connecting that respond to another need than Sx, and it's absent with you. 2. Sx is on and off and demand a highly specific synergy/synchronicity to gain energy as much as it spends it, thus why they will also go on and off with you (small fire that barely warm you up vs moderate fire that warm you up). And like Sx dom, they can also decide to cut off the connection if the synergy is toxic or too absent, especially if it becomes nuisible to their Soc need as well. Since they're healthy, usually it means they'll communicate it and won't let you guess the relationship is dead, if it was an important relationship for both of you. So/sx can also communicate their worry about the "flame" dying, but contrary to Sx dom, it's a first "alarm" signal to tell the Soc established is about to be jeopardized as well. Since for Sx dom, if the flame dies (doesnt light up anymore despite "the wood" or the support), then the connection is dead to them for sure, while for So/sx, if Soc is still well established, Sx can be dead for a while it won't matter as much, even tho it has importance (as it maintains stronger "alliances" /and friendships).

Finally, So/sx will also have trouble to maintain and preserve their interactions like Sx/so, so they can be more likely to change circle often or prioritize newer connections over their established one. Since they are Soc dom, it's even more typical of them to be social butterflies and loosing touch with the already established, long to date relationships (they value groups, alliance or friendships that have already fire to offer, and not the wood itself). Sx aux usually is the one helping to maintain or make them last longer, until they are mature enough to let Sp be a small part of their priority too. The fire gives a reason to have wood (Sp) to cater for.

Healthy Sp/sx will come to understand Sx actually helps them better preserve themselves, because Sp alone becomes pretty stagnant, and stagnation usually means things (yourself and your life) go no where. And this doesn't help to preserve in the long run. It's like rotting from the inside. They learn that they need some flow of energy too, and therefore allow for Sx connections. Metaphor: Having a small built up place is sure great but with no fire to keep you warm, it leads to cold which can ironically lead you to be unable to cater for more woods. Cold means your body won't be optimal and suffer in its capacity to actually preserve itself. Your body need warmth. So fire helps maintaining you and actually help you produce more.

Again, they also learn to distinguish pure destruction from transformation. They'll distinguish igniting something/someone and burning it until it can no longer do because it is turned to ashes (so, destroyed and ruined) versus lighting something/someone while considering its capacity to better maintain it and still gain an interesting intensity from it. Simply put, learning to take care of a relationship (or hobby) all while knowing how to spark it and keep the spark. Again with the metaphor; they'll understand that lighting every single resources they see just to get some temporary warmth to continue their things is not as Sp neither as Sx as taking the time to dedicate a set up for a fire or an actual place (like a small cabin or housing) that can contain it and make its warmth bigger and last longer.

Therefore, healhty Sp/sx are less likely to drop relationships when the spark dies, even less likely than Sx doms. They can do without for a while like So/sx, but they also recognize that it is important, so they'll do their possible to spark it up. They'll give it up if they see it is destructive or if it stagnates (which is another form of destruction) and doesn't serve anyone in the relationship as this also jeopardizes Sp.

However, healthy Sp/sx are still the least likely to drop for good a relationship because of Sp dominance, all while being the least likely to actually reach out and form one. Since they are soc blind, they dont see the point to reach for the sake of it. Metaphor: they don't see the point of living in a village when they can make up their own house in the wood directly, near water and all the shit you need, especially since they know how to do all that stuff themselves. They come to understand the importance of getting things or even some few people that ignite fire as it makes things easier, but still, they don't see the point of more when few do the job very well. This is why losing those few relationships is hard on them and why they dont see the point of reaching for more either. In fact, they'll often let their few relationships do the soc job for them, and so go into those villages and bring the necessary when needed. They sometimes do it themselves, but not for long since they don't care about it, until they are healthy enough to recognize it actually makes things even more easier for their Sp and Sx concerns.

Also, a little note for Sx blinds; reminder they also have Sx, because blind spot =/= not having the said instinct, and so they will have those "transforming/enlightening/flowing mergy" moments too, they just don't seek them nor deem them as important as soc and sp. In other words, with my sweet, sweet Ni metaphor; they value more building a house, even villages with woods and other resources, with the aid of communal (reciprocation, belonging, etc.) effort, than catering for fire itself.

That's it. Sx blinds are not empty shell devoided of energy and fuel, they are FULL of it, they just dont see the point in pursuing it for its own sake (METAPHOR: the fire comes naturally from the effort of the number and the establishment of houses and villages = fire itself is not as important, and it is required in less intensity to do the job, even if it still helps out).

I'm pretty sure i answered beyond what you asked, but i hope you managed to find your answer in all that text lmao

#ask #sorry for colorblinds. trying to make it easier to spot since i write a fuckton lmao #also if anyone want the metaphor applied to sx blinds id gladly do it -w-#thx for the compliment btw

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dasaene-archive · 8 years ago

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Sx-blinds Mistyping as So-blinds

I never made a proper post about this, but I’m seeing an ever-increasing number of people that from my observations mistype themselves as so-blind (usually as sp/sx, since secondary so is harder to type) or as so/sx but are actually sx-blinds that don’t understand the soc instinct or are in complete denial that they don’t understand sx either. This seems to be a popular topic as of late and I think it would now be an appropriate time to post this. As an sx-blind myself I hope to offer a different perspective on sx-blind motivations and faults. There are many questions about soc/sx-blindness that I wanted to answer in this post (like what passion means to sx-blinds, what do you think is soc’s best quality, how can I tell if I’m sx-blind or just have a 9 core/strong fix), but for some sort of consistency in this tertiary Ti infodump I will elaborate on those in a different post.

I think it should go without saying that if you’re serious about learning about typology you shouldn’t get all your information from Tumblr, but a lot of people still rely on it for the majority of their information. Tumblr is an excellent resource if you know the right people and figure out how a proper way to interpret information, but it’s not great for confused sx-blinds. I don’t claim to have a perfect understanding of instinctual variants, but most experienced and reliable members of the Tumblr typology community are so-blind, and although they do a good job, they can’t help being biased from their negative experiences with badly developed sx-blinds or sx-blinds that made no effort to understand so-blindness. I mean I’m pretty sure the reason why a lot of so-blinds become so-blind is due to the influence of unhealthy, overbearing sx-blinds in formative years.

However, so-blinds are not the only people to blame for the confusion, rather sx-blinds themselves. A main criticism I have of sx-blinds is that not enough are sure of their typing/willing to rock the so-called community boat and come forward to try to explain soc with all its good and bad. It’s pointless not to at least try to speak up about your thoughts, since so-blinds are not superior nor do they care about “community values” and are more than happy to refine their own and by extension your ideas. Until I asked questions and tried to understand an so-blind point of view, I didn’t get sx very much at all, and I probably still don’t, but I’m far less clueless than before. That’s the purpose of discussion lol, there shouldn’t be any shame in trying to get a grasp on your lack of sx or try to help other people form a more conclusive idea about soc

The words of those in “higher standing” in a community (something I will elaborate on further in) can bother sx-blinds, and many will be afraid of being sx-blind because they are afraid of/don’t relate to/don’t get what the materials they read are really trying to say about all the bad qualities of lacking sx. Being affiliated with the image of soulless, bossy, desperate people incapable of fulfilling relationships isn’t appealing to them. People with soc generally want to be “nice,” they want to be “good,” they want to be likeable and cool and accommodating. If they read a lot of things that say differently from what they perceive themselves to be like or try to be like, they will mistype.

I’m not saying that sx-blinds are insecure or incapable of critical thinking, but when they first start out learning about anything, having many people to rely on as good sources and available to provide feedback is important to them because their relationships always act as a network of information (”networking” put under sx-blind descriptions isn’t wrong, even if that behavior is commonly misunderstood). Being able to rely on the numerous connections they create is what has benefitted them in society, although not necessarily benefitted them in understanding themselves. So when their sources conflict with their self-perception, it usually causes misunderstanding instead of something more productive.

Because sx-blinds are unfortunately pretty susceptible to the words of others, so-blinds are usually put into a “higher standing” in an sx-blind mind because they are more confident in their words and actions as a result of being able to ignore other people in a way sx-blinds can’t. Which is why so-blind sx-blind interactions usually go one of three ways: sx-blinds being frustrated by so-blind criticism since they feel incapable of arguing points that they know will fall on deaf ears, sx-blinds approaching so-blinds for friendship or attention in ways and for reasons that would never appeal to the latter party, or sx-blinds becoming literal sheeple.

Many well-known so-blind users have recently made posts about how the grouping or ranking of people is nonsensical to them, because this grouping is the main way sx-blinds view multiple people who share opinions, style, or way of communication. This grouping is also the reason why so-blinds feel like sx-blinds treat everyone the same way. Although sx-blinds do group people, it creates a helpful organization or hierarchy that helps them understand why certain people are friends with others, why certain trends in their communities are happening, and why some people are more “powerful” (higher-ranking) than others. This doesn’t mean they have to make the structure rigid, although many unfortunately do and that’s what causes the cruel, awkward, or just plain weird interactions so-blinds have faced with sx-blinds.

When healthy, sx-blinds understand that just because they have grouped a person with another superficially similar person doesn’t mean they can’t adjust to them as an individual or remove them from a group entirely once they have more information. There are some complications that come with grouping people in the first place, and I have made other posts explaining how sx-blinds figure out who’s safe for them, but group structure is what makes sense to sx-blinds, who see people in communities. It’s not an inherently negative or positive thing, although sx-blinds sometimes have trouble figuring out where the lines are when they think of themselves as a part of a specific group with a specific role. If they manage to get the group organization and their self-perception right, they are excellent at teamwork, realistically dismantling social structures that they have seen to be more harmful than beneficial, and understand the limits of their sx blindspot and which weaknesses can be worked on. If they get it wrong, well, there’s enough stories of sx-blind mishaps out there for you to probably figure that out. Enough unhealthy sx-blinds are out there to make people pretty confused about their variants, because one sx-blind can be totally chill if a little plain while another is going to be super annoying to deal with.

Mistyped sx-blinds think because they have basic requirements for so-blindness (hobbies, close friends, etc. etc.) that they could never be sx-blind. They don’t understand what sx is just from its descriptions, but because soc descriptions make less sense to them, they stick with being so-blind and begin to idealize it until they really believe that it’s what they are. This is an especially common problem for sx-blind introverts or people in the withdrawn triad, since a lot of activities described as so-blind are one-on-one or personal pursuits, although neither are so-blind-only things. A miscommunication occurs; so-blinds are the majority in making these posts, and because so is their blindspot they can’t explain it in a way that applies to less extreme sx-blinds, and because sx-blinds have sx in their blindspot they think that sx fits them even when it doesn’t. So-blinds are pretty decisive and make posts that express that decisiveness, which some more impressionable sx-blinds take as fact instead of a different way of communication. OP vs reader blindspot disagreement is a major cause of mistyping.

Sx-blinds generally have less of an objective impression of their own strengths and weaknesses than so-blinds due to being influenced by the opinions of others and lacking the specificity that sx gives people, so although some of the negative attributes given to sx-blinds are true even if exaggerated sometimes (like being boring due to the fact that they talk about obvious things to maintain distance and don’t express passion like sx-users), they make sx-blinds defensive and mistype out of fear that they could ever be a part of that sad group. There’s nothing objectively wrong with being sx-blind, but sx-blinds care about being respected in general, and they don’t think that with those qualities associated with them that it’s possible for them to be. Which is pretty sad, although I agree that it’s no one’s responsibility but their own to get over themselves, accept weaknesses, and recognize when someone’s opinions are just opinions even if they can have potentially valuable information.

Being unable to acknowledge weaknesses seems to be a pretty common problem in mistyping in general, which imo is odd since you would assume that people looking deeper into typology would be willing to accept the problems that come with being each type and learn from them instead of forming their identity around a stereotype and being Totally Definitely 100% So-Blind™ to avoid their problems.

To summarize, the basic qualities of average sx-blindness are these: understanding the social environment based on groups, lacking motivation/having embarrassment in pursuing or publicly expressing dedication to interests, a degree of confused self-perception (especially in low Ti or those lacking a 4 in their tritype), and being [too] receptive to the opinions of others. Mistyping is connected to the perception sx-blinds learning about instinctual variants have of soc and sx, and how they wish to distance themselves from the idea of sx-blindness because many descriptions they read are worded in an so-blind way that they don’t relate to or are true things that they refuse to see in themselves. Sx-blinds are easily affected by changes or the popular opinions in the communities that they see themselves a part of and therefore have many misconceptions of their own behavior or lack the self-awareness to work on the flaws that cause them to have a weak sense of self in the first place. [soc voice] If sx-blinds wish not to be misunderstood, they should work on understanding their own thought process and sharing their views, instead of denying that they have soc or lack sx.

#sx blind #so blind #instinctual variants #typing

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funkymbtifiction · 4 years ago

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Hi!! I'm the INFP who asked you about soc or sp few weeks ago. Thanks for your answer! I was surprised that you answered my ask privately, because i expected you would answered it through submission post, but it turned out I sent my question through the 'ask' option😂😂

Anyway based on your reply, i actually never imagined myself as a sx-dom (simply because i don't like wearing revealing clothes or being called sexy, because that's not the impression or image i want to be/?) but your explanation about sx-dom recently, just made me feel naked. It's embarrassing and pain, but it's real, I must admit. But until now... Idk, I still have no idea which one is my secondary instinct is.

To be honest, I'm not sure either, but I suspect you're social blind. A lot of your evidence for social isn't actually social. Social is relational dynamics, being aware of how others are responding to you, maintaining relationships by staying in touch, focusing on what we have in common, even wearing band or fandom shirts as a subtle broadcast of who you are / what your tastes might be.

And i could be an so-blind because i just saw my so-dom friend worrying over something that i would never in my life worrying about (about her social status, values friendship above all, caring way too much with what everyone thinks...

That's social, yes. Social's can't escape this. Social seconds do it a bit less, but for an sx/so, social would be a 'play area' -- something you do for fun, when the stakes aren't high. Connecting through shared tastes. Casting a wider net for people to feed your sx.

You don't seem interested in people in general, which suggest social blindness. I think you're IFP? That's why you struggle with sp concerns (inferior Te lack of proactive time management in terms of self-care), being 'bad' at it doesn't mean it isn't there.

#question #enneagram #subtypes

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azenta · 5 years ago

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sx users read energy from others/things but when they’re interacting with sx-blinds what are they reading? like two sx users can read the energy either one is giving off but when interacting with sx-blinds they don’t give of that energy so what energy are they able to read? unless this is the reason why sx users find sx-blinds as having no juice? but then sx users are able to form an sx attachment to some sx blinds? idk what are your thoughts?

Prepare for the Ni.

To begin, I want to remind Sx is still an instinct connected to mating, not reduced to that, but that’s why it is attuned to reading ‘energy’, and also playing with it to see if the other is receptive and a good ‘’mate’’ to pursue. Think about birds mating dance/parade. Same principle. Sx will send signals, be it through approaching with a particular subject, like the known revealing personal issues out of no where, or just through non-verbal. Another Sx user will easily pick the signals since it seeks the same thing, and may or may not respond, depending if it satisfies it or not (like in nature, it doesn’t always work out). If they are receptive, they’ll respond and pursue the little game of seduction/mating (even with simple potential friend, it’s not really just to fuck or find The Soulmate). Both Sx can then settle how much they vibe it or not. This is all mainly unconscious.

What happens with Sx blinds is that, well, the don't see the signals and therefore will ignore them. So, Sx will automatically read that as an outright flat line, because nothing is gave back (as desired). Or sometimes they’ll respond coincidentally, but in a Sp or Soc way, which may or may not satisfy the Sx. But it can be satisfying, however, it is still not done nor gave in the same way as Sx wants and expects.

The reason why Sx blinds are said to have no juice is rather because since they cannot really see the Sx signals for an Sx signals, they do not give back or send back the same energy. Usually, Sx blinds distribute very differently their energy, sometimes in an "evenly" fashion, like "everyone get their fair share", and Sx doesn't like that. Sx is made to seek a "mate", a partner that can satisfy specifics need that not everybody can meet. So, giving this special spot to just anyone is a waste of time and energy for Sx, it is even just a big turn off. It gives a special spot but also expect to get this same special spot, a special investment of time, energy, a special investment exclusive to the Sx, as mates are supposed to be a complementary pair. Not a trio or whatever more, a pair. Therefore, Sx blinds feel unsatisfying overall in their way of giving their time and energy. Sx is truly possessive, territorial even, and outright jealous if their spot is taken by someone/something else.

Sx is selective to who it sends it because Sx in itself is limited to who, when and how it can give it. It gives it in a great quantity in a short amount of time. It is focused, canalised, invested, like a laser. Again, similar principle as animals, like salmons climbing waterfall to mate; it is this one chance or else they are fucked (...or actually not). So, Sx doesn’t want to choose just anyone. This is why Sx blinds being unresponsive or too diffused will feel unsatisfying and why a lot of Sx users turn elsewhere to invest their time and energy. Soc can also be selective, but seeks to feed fairly every of its bonds, since it needs them all as it has a different purpose than Sx. So it gives in small but regular amount. But to Sx, it only tells they haven't "enough" to offer, thus why ultimately they vibe as a flat line or just tiny little burst of juice given. It’s seen as some lack of strength or investment/commitment in the bond.

However, it’s not that Sx blinds don’t have any juice, but they don’t have the right energy, the right juice that Sx seeks. Thus the common description of lacking from Sx users, mostly Soc blinds. Also, since Soc tends to diffuse its energy, and Sp to, well, conserve it, it is also less ‘’intense’’ contrary to Sx that canalizes it on one person or thing at a time (Sp blinds are of course good at doing both). This lack of "intensity" (/focus) is an automatic giveaway that the need is fundamentally different and the complementarity less likely.

But, it doesn’t mean Sx user cannot bond with Sx blinds. As I said, Sx blinds can all well be satisfying for Sx, since what Sx seeks is ultimately complementarity and this is dependent on whole other assets than just IVs, such as the rest of the type and simply past life experiences. In other words, it depends of the individual. Sx's having the same way of interacting, it is easier to synchronize the roles (light/dark, feminine/masculine, aggressive/receptive etc.) and enter and follow the dance, but like in those birds parade, it doesn’t mean they are going to "mate", because it doesn’t mean they are complementary or match well the roles given in this dance (imagine two bottoms together. Yeah. The intensity falls flat very fucking quick doesn't it). Sx blinds can still feel "flat" but it might all well be what the Sx needs to feel completed.

Everyone has their own frequency, IVs are somewhat ways to distribute this frequency (and are also needs in themselves of course).

So, this is what I have to offer as an answer. Quick recap:

• Sx blinds are read as flat line (Sp/so mainly) or irregular tiny bursts (mainly So/sp) by Sx users, specifically Soc blinds.

• Yes, Sx can bond with Sx blinds because it ultimately depends of the whole type to determine the complementarity. Think in terms of wavelength. Two Sx could all be desynchronized, one on higher frequencies the other on lower ones, while the Sx blind is a flat line but directly crossing the escalating line of one of the Sx's.

If anything is still not clear or you want more precisions, don't hesitate to ask uwu

Edit: I adjusted some sentences to avoid any other possible confusion. I recall this is a subjective perception from an instinct, namely Sx.

#i really should have drawn the last example with the wavelength... so much clearer in my head #ask #sx #soc #sp #ivs #en

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funkymbtifiction · 6 years ago

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How does a sp-blind look in real life? The descriptions of sp-blind seem descriptions of characters from action / adventure movies: People who jump into action recklessly, don't think about how dangerous a situation could be and don't care either, etc... Does sp-blind make people so extremely reckless in real life? Like an action hero?

Not necessarily, although there are exceptions (often with ESXP daredevils).

Of the sp-blinds I know, the things they have in common are:

- Having no savings at the end of the month / living from paycheck to paycheck

- Forgetting to prioritize “essentials” in their budget (like rent, paying the electric bill, fixing the broken heater in the winter, or the a/c in the summer)

- Assuming they are going to “last forever” / that not taking care of their body won’t backfire on them at some future

date (abuse including a poor diet, lack of sleep, forgetting to eat, tiring their eyes with screens, and no exercise)

- Having no sense of when they have had “enough” and need “down time”

- Having almost nothing “comfortable” in their space (not knowing what to buy / what they like / no nesting instinct) OR having a ton of clutter / being a hoarder

SP-blinds often “cling” to people with sp as their lifeline and feel panicky without it since they don’t know how to do basic things for themselves (like budgeting, keeping track of their spending, saving money, setting boundaries, having time at home to calm down and introspect, etc) along those lines.

One sp-blind I know has harmed herself multiple times living in a house where it never occurs to her to fix anything that breaks / she does not know how to do it. She has gone two winters without heat, because she never remembers to fix the broken furnace when it’s not cold outside, and when it is, she has no money to fix it with due to her tendency to over-spend / loan people money she does not have. She went last summer without an a/c also because… same story, it broke and she can’t afford to fix it.

Each sp-blind is different, depending on the core type also.

See this post.

- ENFP Mod

Note by sp-blind ENTP Mod. - I want to add that having a six wing or strong thinking function would ideally cut down on the dumb things that sp blind stereotypes are wont to do. For example, fiscally speaking - the last time I quit my job, I hadn’t planned enough savings to sustain me for the gap in between. I do pay my bills on time, but that’s mostly because it is all online. If it actually involved me remembering to prioritize, go somewhere and pay my bills, I am pretty sure I would learn my lesson after a few shut - offs. Food wise, I have the absolute worst diet though I am trying to work on it. She is right in that I do and did live life like I would live forever. Sp firsts treat their body with a great awareness, mindful of what they consume. Sleep isn’t prioritized if I have some big idea or side projects I am working, or if I have someone online with whom I am really feeling the connection, in a manner of speaking. Not knowing when I have had enough? Yes. Not feeling hunger till my vision goes fuzzy? Why, that’s how I spent most of my teenage and early twenties. I have lived life from biscuit to ramen packet, somehow survived to tell the tale.

About boundaries: This is is kind of a huge thing because the sp users know when they are tired, when they should wind down whereas I have no sense of equitable energy distribution, and can end up drained. I push myself and my body unknowingly beyond its limits, and come down HARD.

Sp people: I hadn’t thought about this consciously till I read about how easily the so/sx defaults to the dynamic of transferring responsibility for their growth and survival on to someone with strong sp. I have through my life gravitated towards high sp users, who are probably the reason why I am actually here to tell you not to do what I did.

(Just because you are sp blind does not mean you don’t have an ounce of self preservation. That is a hard-wired instinct in every single one of us. Be it a homo sapien, or an animal, or a bird. What it means is that you don’t prioritize meeting those needs. What it means is that you will willingly sacrifice sp needs to make sure your soc and sx needs are met. So don’t think all sp blind folks will be penniless junkies, it is dependent on Enneagram, and to some extent cognitive type as well)

- ENTP Mod.

#question #subtypes #enneagram subtypes #instinctual variants #sp-blind

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