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anneangel · 11 hours
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When I try to explain why 'I love' and 'don't love' The Hobbit, trilogy and book:
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, Warner Bros executive directors: Do you like The Hobbit Trilogy?
Me: oh, yes. I love 90% of it. And the cast is wonderful and the soundtrack incredible. I love 'movie Smaug', and I find interesting that the dwarves gain more prominence than in the book, transforming them into more central characters in the plot.
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, WB: What are your criticisms about it?
Me: There are many good scenes from the original plot that were changed for the movie without need because were already good in the book, many tense scenes in the book were transformed into 'action scenes', such as the escape from the Misty Mountains, Mirkwood and the escape in the barrels. And why revive Azog when just Bolg would be enough? And you guys shit on the character Beorn. And, well, the name of the movies are 'The Hobbit', there should be more Bilbo in this, right?
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, WB: So you like the book that much?
Me: oh, yes, I love 95% of it.
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, WB: Do you even have something honest criticisms of book?
Me: well, there could be SOME female participation, and I could follow Gandalf's journey to the White Council and Dol Guldur, both happen, but in the plot of the book it 'll not be narrated to us because the focus is on Bilbo and only him. And Thranduil doesn't even have a name, he's just called the 'Elvenking' of the Forest, let alone his son Legolas. Radagast is underused and only mentioned once. I would like more to be 'narrated' than 'told' to us. Understand? More dialogues actually describing what they went through, and less summarizing as 'after much deliberation they decided', it's something told. Maybe if the book was more 'narrated' than 'told', then it would be much bigger than it is. Well, It would be interesting to see the narrative from more perspectives.
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, WB: but that's exactly what we try to deliver in the movies! We gave you Galadriel, Tauriel and gave you Bard's daughters, hey, there's your female representation. And we gave you the White Council and Dol Guldur, we gave you more Elrond, and Radagast and even Saruman. We even gave you a badass and handsome Thranduil and we even gave you Legolas. Fuck you, we even gave you Frodo!
Me: Correct. I like the fillers created for the trilogy, nothing against them, the intention was great, the actors play their characters very fine and everyone did wonders with what they had, truly cool, the problem is that I don't like the PLOT of the fillers. Only that.
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, WB: So, in your opinion, the problem is our bad writing plot for fillers?
Me: oh, that's right. Exactly. With the exception of this, everything else was very good.
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, WB: But you can't just blame us! Others also failed miserably in this production, right?
Me: Oh, but the costume designers did relatively fine, cinematographers and art directors too, with the exception of Beorn's design, everything else is tolerable. Even if it wasn't faithful to the book on some aspects, but that's why it's called 'adaptation'. Including the CGI was 'ok', which many complain about, but I think it's an excessive criticism because it's reasonable compared to other current Worldwide Box Office movies similar to The Hobbit Trilogy.
Peter Jackson, screenwriters, WB: So, for you, what really left something to be desired was the plot written of the fillers and plot of changed scenes? Is it?
Me: Oh, yeah. I wouldn't be so critical of the 'need' for to be three movies, if the filler plot and new scenes was better written. But hey, I still like a lot about The Hobbit, whether it's the book or the movies. For example, now just talking about The Hobbit makes me want to read my favorite parts of the book and watch my favorite parts of the trilogy! Haha! Understand now?
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anneangel · 1 day
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Hey, you're right. Sometimes I don't realize how so strict I can be on myself.
I had fun drawing this, and that's all that matters, right? Also, you telling me that "if you draws are an artist" was a reminder to me that I shouldn't feel pressured to follow whatever standard that my mind imagines to be “really art”.
I didn't know, but I needed to hear/read it. And you gave it to me. And you are so kind. Thanks for reminding me what truly matters ❤️🙏
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Just a joke: The Hobbit meme. I like the idea that Bilbo Baggins, who had never left the Shire, has better skills in moving around the world than Thorin.
I like sketching because it distracts me and de-stresses me, it's fun. But I don't like to share because there are real artists who work hard here, and I'm not one of them, obviously. However, I even enjoy the idea that my scribble could, perhaps, bug some AI. Haha
The most fun to draw was Thorin, he's more easier because spends 85% of the trilogy looking like he sucked a rotten lemon. Haha.
It's definitely not worth writing for myself, English is not my native language and my writing is terrible, it would be illegible. I had to edit it on an App. But I made the characters on a sheet of paper while waiting for a class to start.
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Just a joke: The Hobbit meme. I like the idea that Bilbo Baggins, who had never left the Shire, has better skills in moving around the world than Thorin.
I like sketching because it distracts me and de-stresses me, it's fun. But I don't like to share because there are real artists who work hard here, and I'm not one of them, obviously. However, I even enjoy the idea that my scribble could, perhaps, bug some AI. Haha
The most fun to draw was Thorin, he's more easier because spends 85% of the trilogy looking like he sucked a rotten lemon. Haha.
It's definitely not worth writing for myself, English is not my native language and my writing is terrible, it would be illegible. I had to edit it on an App. But I made the characters on a sheet of paper while waiting for a class to start.
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anneangel · 3 days
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The Hobbit Trilogy was much sadder than the Ring Trilogy, and I pointed to 'Battle of the Five Armies" as the reason.
Understand, the Hobbit Trilogy invested in developing Thorin, Kili and Fili (giving them more prominence than they receive in the book), only to kill them in the end. Not every narrative has this courage, and this caught those who hadn't read the book completely off guard. In fact, I felt more sorry for their deaths in the movies than in the book. And Bilbo returns to a looted house under the guise of an auction, with no one really happy to see him safe and alive and well. Alone in his empty house, mourning Thorin, Kili and Fili, and with an evil ring in his pocket.
Yes, he adopt Frodo and is still friends with Gandalf. But it's still such a sad ending to the Trilogy, because he stays alone for a long time, gets old, until the "time jump" where the movie 'll "connect" both trilogies.
Yes, a very atypical and sad ending… A very sadistic way of ending, where the book was softer at the ending point (with Bilbo receiving a visit from Gandalf and Balin, a while later).
On the other hand, the Ring Trilogy has many tense and sad moments, but it kills main characters more sparingly (let's face it, the most loved ones stay alive, like Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Sam, Gandalf, Merry, Pippin, Frodo, Faramir, Éowyn, and others) and brings happy endings for most of the characters, with a great epic epilogue and worthy of a "satisfying ending".
So, in fact, I can see why the Hobbit Trilogy seems to end on a sad note, for a movie that previously seemed so much happier.
But I like it! I think it all just adds more layers to both Trilogies.
Last movie in a trilogy: some characters may die, but all the mains are ok. The war etc is won, peace yay :3
The Hobbit: DEATH, EVERYONE DIES, PAIN AND SUFFERING
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anneangel · 6 days
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Because I imagine this scenes of The Hobbit book with Elrohir and Elladan, you know, Elrond's twin sons. And it looks like this:
Elrohir: What brings Mister Baggins. Elladan: And Balin and Dwalin. O! tra-la-la-lally Elrohir: down into the valley. O! Tril-lil-lil-lolly. Elladan: in June, ha! Ha!
So they laughed and sang in the trees; and pretty fair nonsense.
“Well, well!” said Elrohir.
“Just look! Bilbo the hobbit on a pony, my dear! Isn’t it delicious!” said Elladan.
Elrohir: “Most astonishing wonderful!”
“Don’t dip your beard in the foam, father!” they cried to Thorin, who was bent almost on to his hands and knees. “It is long enough without watering it.”
“Mind Bilbo doesn’t eat all the cakes!” they called. “He is too fat to get through key-holes yet!”
“Hush, hush! Good People! and good night!” said Gandalf, who came last. “Valleys have ears, and some elves have over merry tongues. Good night!” And so at last they all came to the Last Homely House, and found its doors flung wide.
Bilbo would have liked to have a few private words with these people that seemed to know his names and all about him, although he had never seen them before. He thought their opinion of his adventure might be interesting. Elves know a lot and are wondrous folk for news, and know what is going on among the peoples of the land.
-The Hobbit Book - Chapter III, A Short Rest ⤴️
P.s: They are silly, but are intelligent enough to know the visitors' names and that Bilbo is with them on a mission where he will have to enter through a lock, and they still don't know about the map, and the secret door. Which only proves that Elrond's sons are so much intelligent.
...And then, I imagine it's them singing this, in that scene on Bilbo's journey home, when he and Gandalf stop again in Rivendell:
"Sing all ye joyful, now sing all together!The wind’s in the tree-top, the wind’s in the heather; The stars are in blossom, the moon is in flower, And bright are the windows of Night in her tower. Dance all ye joyful, now dance all together!" (...) [Elrohir and Elladan sing the song].
“Well, Merry People!” said Bilbo looking out. “What time by the moon is this? Your lullaby would waken a drunken goblin! Yet I thank you.”
“And your snores would waken a stone dragon—yet we thank you,” they answered with laughter. “It is drawing towards dawn, and you have slept now since the night’s beginning. Tomorrow, perhaps, you will be cured of weariness.”
“A little sleep does a great cure in the house of Elrond,” said Bilbo; “but I will take all the cure I can get. A second good night, fair friends!” And with that he went back to bed and slept till late morning.
-The Hobbit Book -Chapter XIX, The Last Stage ⤴️
And so, in me headcanon, Bilbo kindly chose not to mention in his accounts when Elrond apologized to him about his children, with a certain guilty pleasure, because after all he loves his children and likes to see them happy. And Bilbo understands perfectly, because he also loves Elrohir and Elladan.
And somehow Bilbo thinks they look like Kili and Fili, and it brings tears to his eyes, and Elrond feels like he should be offended that his children are compared to dwarves, but in fact he is smiling kindly.
After Bilbo left Rivendell, Elrohir and Elladan fully told little Estel/Aragorn about him, who was eager to meet him ever since.
Years later, Elrond reads Bilbo's drafts about his adventure, and wonders if Bilbo left so much of his relationships out, just narrating and telling the basics, because it still hurt him to talk or write about it in more detail.
And anyway, everyone in Rivendell loves Bilbo, for reasons we will never know because Bilbo left out of his writings most of the lovelly dialogue and cute and greatest interactions he had with the elves (and also with Thorin's company).
Because it hurt him to put it on paper, or even talk about it, and that's why it took him years to write the most succinct and summarized book about his adventure.
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anneangel · 10 days
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The Sherlock Holmes books collection aren't about Holmes solving a mystery, 're basically about Watson describing how amazing Sherlock Holmes is solving a mystery. It's for those who like Sherlock's, and Watson's, personality and way of acting. The 'mysteries' are just a fun bonus.
That's 'why' every reader I know who is a mystery fan in itself says don't like Doyle books. Trying to read the Sherlock Holmes collection just for the mystery, without really liking Holmes and Watson, is like going to a dinner and only eating the starter appetizers because you don't like the main course.
This is why in adaptations, based on the mysterious plots of the books faithfully or a totally new creation of a mystery, the essential thing is it has Sherlock Holmes and John Watson (the mystery is always in the background, in relation to them).
It also wouldn't be best if it were just Sherlock Holmes, in part we only admire Holmes because we see him through the eyes of John Watson. And if it were just John Watson it wouldn't be best either, because it's his dedication to Holmes (and his intelligence in solving mysteries, by extension) that makes Watson such an incredible partner. Holmes' idea that, if he is the light, Watson is his conductor, is very right.
Doyle didn't know that Sherlock Holmes would become his Magnus Opus, he didn't even want it, he felt that writing about Holmes took up his time and prevented him from trying new literary styles, but in the end he had to give in and resurrect Sherlock Holmes, and do it with that he and his faithful partner live together again on Baker Street (removing Watson's wife from the plot because she was inconvenient to the purpose), because that was what the public wanted and that was what made him money.
Sherlock Holmes is proof that a character/a literary work can surpass and become greater than the author who created it. Once the author publishes, it (his work, plot and characters) also lives in the imagination of fans and admirers, and that is a path of no return. Regardless of whether or not the author likes the direction it will take and how fans and the general public 'll deal with it.
Doyle is not a renowned mystery author, he is an author renowned for having created the very intelligent and eccentric detective Sherlock Holmes and his chronicler and faithful partner John Watson.
The central point is, and always has been, the dynamic duo that Sherlock Holmes and John Watson form together.
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anneangel · 12 days
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This Watson is still my favorite, he can be serious with an expression like 'I'm an army doctor, I can name every part of your body while shooting you', but all that falls apart when he's smiling, so he's so cute. And he's handsome, but he's so cute when he blushes.
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He's the most seriously cute Watson ever. He became interested in Holmes' personality the minute he laid eyes on the peculiar man, and then he beat himself up for 30 minutes of Show because he thinks Holmes is a criminal genius (like a Moriarty), so he doesn't know if he admires Holmes anyway, if he fears him, or if he spies on him and then decides what to do after. hahaha.
I love that this Show gave Watson some substantial screen space, even gave space for Watson in the Show Title. I really appreciate that, and in the end it works perfectly because this Watson is adorable.
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He was so sad when he thought his Holmes was dead. He played Holmes's violin so sadly. And he was so thrilled, so emotional, when Holmes returned! It was the best cutest scene, I swear, neither the book nor any other adaptation could top this Watson and Mrs Hudson hugging Holmes in his return on this Show!
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And you know, Watson is described as very handsome in the book, in one case Holmes is complaining that Watson should have used his physical attributes to his advantage to get more data for the case. And this Watson is like: 'yes, Holmes is the smart brain and brilliant detective with a magnifying glass, and I'm the handsome army doctor who has already won the hearts of many on three different continents'.
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See... All this Watson needs to do for stole my heart is appear on the screen.
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And yet it is such a soft show, it can perfectly be my Comfort Show for hours.
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anneangel · 13 days
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Oh, that's quite interesting. And, let's face it, the fact that several adaptations try to give Holmes an heteronormative novel, has always been the argument I've maintained that he is so much Queer in the book. This just shows how desperate many adaptations are to make him "less gay/Queer".
And yes, I totally get that Holmes tried to win over Watson in The Sign of the Four, he deliberately talks to Watson about women and how he doesn't find them trustworthy (for me it was his hint towards Mary), he cooks and plays the violin for Watson , and I really found it strange how much effort he was making (he seemed to be trying to impress Watson), and at the end he is so sad when Watson says he's getting married, Watson himself realized how much Holmes didn't like that, and Holmes can't explain why was against marriage (he made an excuse, and made the thing about himself about 'I'll never get married so I don't harm my brilliant brain with silly emotions' when that doesn't answer why HE isn't in favor of Watson's marriage).
I also agree that Holmes is a clearly gay character. This may not have been intentional in the sense that the author was aware, but the inspirations that made Holmes so Queer and Eccentric were clearly outlined. Only later would the author probably have seen that he wrote in Queer Code without realizing it.
Watson also being an unreliable narrator who hides many things from readers also leaves room for many headcanons to be assumed.
For example, he is married in 1887 to March 1889, (the five orange pips and A Scandal in Bohemia) but he only meets Mary in September 1889, in The Sign Of Four. So what happened to the first wife? How can he break up with one and fall in love with a new woman so quickly? It's as if the first wife was a lie, after all she doesn't even have a name. And if he married Mary in 1889, why in Hound of the Baskervilles, which takes place in mid-October 1889, he seems to lead a single life? But he was married with her in 1890 and 1891. Doyle created an Eccentric detective and a Chronicler who doesn't seem to remember when he's married and when he's not (evidently that doesn't matter).
In the end, people read because they want Sherlock Holmes and John Watson, it's no fun without each other, people read/see it looking for their dynamics on the pages/screen. In the two stories narrated by Holmes, I missed Watson (and Holmes missed him too, because he mentions him, including with 'Watson abandoned me for an wife, the most selfish thing he has ever done in all these years. I was alone'). And there is definitely no Watson without Holmes, that's why he always returns to Holmes, as if the man were his safe haven, his sun, and Watson could only be happy in his orbit (even his wife mentions that he should go in an case with Holmes when she notices that he is downcast, hahahahah).
Even Doyle realizes that making countless excuses for Watson to leave his wife and his medical practice is tiring, so he kills the girl when Holmes returns from his hiatus. Even Doyle knows, to some extent, that Watson's wifes is a hindrance.
So why Doyle marries Watson with another girl, again, just before Holmes retired? Why would it be strange for them to continue living together without the excuse of work? And let's remember, this wife also has no name.
Doyle marries Watson only because it is convenient for the rules of social decorum of Victorian Era.
I didn't realize Mycroft's Club was so Queer, ohh. That makes sense. hahahahah
holmes content from Strangers: Homosexual Love in the Nineteenth Century by Graham Robb
including such hits as: 'languid dreamy eyes' 'the queerest club in london' 'my merits as a housekeeper' 'it was worth a wound' etc
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anneangel · 15 days
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Bilbo's actions with the ring were quite reasonable:
Bilbo almost stopped breathing, and went stiff himself. He was desperate. He must get away, out of this horrible darkness, while he had any strength left. He must fight. He must stab the foul thing, put its eyes out, kill it. It meant to kill him. No, not a fair fight. He was invisible now. Gollum had no sword. Gollum had not actually threatened to kill him, or tried to yet. And he was miserable, alone, lost. A sudden understanding, a pity mixed with horror, welled up in Bilbo’s heart: a glimpse of endless unmarked days without light or hope ofbetterment, hard stone, cold fish, sneaking and whispering. All these thoughts passed in a flash of a second. He trembled. And then quite suddenly in another flash, as if lifted by a new strength and resolve, he leaped. No great leap for a man, but a leap in the dark. Straight over Gollum’s head he jumped, seven feet forward and three in the air; indeed, had he known it, he only just missed cracking his skull on the low arch of the passage. - The Hobbit
Bilbo was able to feel pity for Gollum and put himself in his place.
"Pity? It's 'pity' that stayed Bilbo's hand (...) Pity, and mercy: not to strike without need. (...) And he was well rewarded, Frodo. Notice how he suffered so little from the evil [of the Ring] and escaped in the end, because he began to use the Ring with this. With Pity. (...) and (...) The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.” Gandalf said. - LotR
Yes, after, Bilbo decides to disappear like a joke during the party, as a prank, but it is quite justifiable, the people were talking bad about Bilbo, that he was weird and had weird visitors, and still many coveting and gossiping about his money and the comforts he had at Bag End. They made horrible comments about his adopting Frodo too, and about Frodo himself.
It makes sense that Bilbo would want to disappear in front of them, it's symbolic when we want to disappear in front of people who make us feel uncomfortable, people who have spent years calling him 'Mad Bilbo'. It was an expected joke from Bilbo, it was him being ironic! Just as gifts from him were ironic. An example:
For MILO BURROWS, hoping it will be useful, from B.B., on a gold pen and ink-bottle. Milo never answered letters. - LotR
When Bilbo leaves the Ring, he gets angry with Gandalf for a moment and becomes almost aggressive, but see that in the end it is he who OFFERS the ring to Gandalf:
'Well, if you want my ring yourself, say so!' cried Bilbo. 'But you won't get it. I won't give my precious away, I tell you.' His hand strayed to the hilt of his small sword. (…)
(...) Gandalf answered. 'And I am not one either. I am not trying to rob you, but to help you. I wish you would trust me, as you used.' He turned away, and the shadow passed.
(...) He seemed to dwindle again to an old grey man, bent and troubled. Bilbo drew his hand over his eyes. I am sorry,' he said. 'But I felt só queer. And yet it would be a relief in a way not to be bothered with it any more. It has been so growing on my mind lately. Sometimes I have felt it was like an eye looking at me.
'Then trust mine,' said Gandalf. 'It is quite made up. Go away and leave it behind. Stop possessing it. Give it to Frodo, and I will look after him.'
Bilbo stood for a moment tense and undecided. Presently he sighed. 'All right,' he said with an effort.
(...) 'You have still got the ring in your pocket,' said the wizard.
'Well, so I have!' cried Bilbo. 'And my will and all the other documents too. You had better take it and deliver it for me. That will be safest.
''No, don't give the ring to me,' said Gandalf. 'Put it on the mantelpiece. It will be safe enough there, till Frodo comes.
A spasm of anger passed swiftly over the hobbit's face again. Suddenly it gave way to a look of relief and a laugh. 'Well, that's that,' he said. 'Now I'm off!' - LotR
Bilbo was strong enough to overcome his desire for the ring and turn away for it.
And Bilbo almost attacking Frodo in Rivendell upon seeing the Ring? Yes. Right. But, It's Bilbo who asks Frodo to keep the Item:
Bilbo looked quickly at Frodo’s face and passed his hand across his eyes. ‘I understand now,’ he said. ‘Put it away! I am sorry: sorry you have come in for this burden; sorry about everything. - LotR
He acts pretty decent for someone in possession of an evil object. And if he's one to be ironic with his relatives, they provoked him first!
There was a great commotion, and people of all sorts, respectable and unrespectable, were thick round the door, and many were going in and out—not even wiping their feet on the mat, as Bilbo noticed with annoyance. If he was surprised, they were more surprised still. He had arrived back in the middle of an auction! (…) would sell by auction the effects of the late Bilbo Baggins, of Bag-End, Underhill, Hobbiton. (…) most of the things had already been sold, for various prices from next to nothing to old songs (as is not unusual at auctions). Bilbo’s cousins the Sackville-Bagginses were, in fact, busy measuring his rooms to see if their own furniture would fit. In short Bilbo was “Presumed Dead”, and not everybody that said so was sorry to find the presumption wrong. (…) The legal bother, indeed, lasted for years. It was quite a long time before Mr. Baggins was in fact admitted to be alive again. The people who had got specially good bargains at the Sale took a deal of convincing; and in the end to save time Bilbo had to buy back quite a lot of his own furniture. (…) Many of his silver spoons mysteriously disappeared and were never accounted for. Personally he suspected the Sackville-Bagginses. On their side they never admitted that the returned Baggins was genuine, and they were not on friendly terms with Bilbo ever after. (…) he was no longer quite respectable. He was in fact held by all the hobbits of the neighbourhood to be ‘queer’—except by his nephews and nieces on the Took side, but even they were not encouraged in their friendship by their elders. I am sorry to say he did not mind. (…) many shook their heads and touched their foreheads and said “Poor old Baggins!” and few believed any of his tales. - The Hobbit
He had been really lonely the last few years since he had returned from his adventure, or holiday, as liked to call it. A large part of this was due to the fact that he had been definitively rejected from the respectable community, not that he cared that much about it, but was quite a burden to have faced everything he had been through on his adventure there and back again, to be a hero to other folks and peoples, an Elf-Friend, also a friend of dwarves and humans, who rode Eagles and rode barrels in a river (even without knowing how to swim), who spoke to Smaug the Dragon, and still survived a war, returning home to the Shire to receive the treatment of an pariah.
No one really welcomed him with joy, he came back safe and sound, after disappearing for 14 months, and it seemed like everyone preferred him dead. Imagine Bilbo, especially when he sat alone in his armchair in a house too big for a single Hobbit (one who used to like visitors and had lots of pantries and huge rooms that could fit a lot of people and he had a lot of clothes). beautiful to wear and receive them). Possibly the same respectable Hobbits he received as visitors before were the same ones who were not happy to see him return alive. Because they didn't care about him, nor about his feelings or his safety and well-being, they only cared about his money and possessions, envying his comfort and home. And they gossiped about it for years, making him look like "Mad Bilbo", when they were the ones who were petty.
And yet, remember, Bilbo adopted Frodo of his own free will (because Frodo was his favorite cousin, according to the book, it is the others who gossip and invent ulterior motives in a malicious way and this is also in the book), And Bilbo teaches Sam reads, is kind to Gafer, is generous with the poorest families, throws lively parties with lots of food, welcomes Merry and Pippin to Bag End often and gives them enough freedom to see Bilbo things without him knowing. And Bilbo remained friends with the Elves, the Dwarves, the humans (he was friends with Aragorn, "Not all those who wander are lost" was coined by Bilbo in a poem, and has often been used since then to refer to Aragorn), and Gandalf, no matter what his neighbors thought of it or how often they found him and his visits "strange". Bilbo "was happy to the end of his days, which were extraordinarily long" - The Hobbit and LotR.
So yes, Bilbo is incredibly virtuous, even when tempted by the ring.
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anneangel · 15 days
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Watson and Holmes are so handsome here, and I've been 'dating' their faces and expressions in this. Don't always find illustrations of them in full body and so together, then I zoomed them as much as could. Illustration of A Scandal in Bohemia by Sidney Paget
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anneangel · 16 days
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Oh, yes!
Bilbo's actions with the ring were quite reasonable:
Bilbo almost stopped breathing, and went stiff himself. He was desperate. He must get away, out of this horrible darkness, while he had any strength left. He must fight. He must stab the foul thing, put its eyes out, kill it. It meant to kill him. No, not a fair fight. He was invisible now. Gollum had no sword. Gollum had not actually threatened to kill him, or tried to yet. And he was miserable, alone, lost. A sudden understanding, a pity mixed with horror, welled up in Bilbo’s heart: a glimpse of endless unmarked days without light or hope ofbetterment, hard stone, cold fish, sneaking and whispering. All these thoughts passed in a flash of a second. He trembled. And then quite suddenly in another flash, as if lifted by a new strength and resolve, he leaped. No great leap for a man, but a leap in the dark. Straight over Gollum’s head he jumped, seven feet forward and three in the air; indeed, had he known it, he only just missed cracking his skull on the low arch of the passage. - The Hobbit
Bilbo was able to feel pity for Gollum and put himself in his place.
"Pity? It's 'pity' that stayed Bilbo's hand (...) Pity, and mercy: not to strike without need. (...) And he was well rewarded, Frodo. Notice how he suffered so little from the evil [of the Ring] and escaped in the end, because he began to use the Ring with this. With Pity. (...) and (...) The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.” Gandalf said. - LotR
Yes, after, Bilbo decides to disappear like a joke during the party, as a prank, but it is quite justifiable, the people were talking bad about Bilbo, that he was weird and had weird visitors, and still many coveting and gossiping about his money and the comforts he had at Bag End. They made horrible comments about his adopting Frodo too, and about Frodo himself.
It makes sense that Bilbo would want to disappear in front of them, it's symbolic when we want to disappear in front of people who make us feel uncomfortable, people who have spent years calling him 'Mad Bilbo'. It was an expected joke from Bilbo, it was him being ironic! Just as gifts from him were ironic. An example:
For MILO BURROWS, hoping it will be useful, from B.B., on a gold pen and ink-bottle. Milo never answered letters. - LotR
When Bilbo leaves the Ring, he gets angry with Gandalf for a moment and becomes almost aggressive, but see that in the end it is he who OFFERS the ring to Gandalf:
'Well, if you want my ring yourself, say so!' cried Bilbo. 'But you won't get it. I won't give my precious away, I tell you.' His hand strayed to the hilt of his small sword. (…)
(...) Gandalf answered. 'And I am not one either. I am not trying to rob you, but to help you. I wish you would trust me, as you used.' He turned away, and the shadow passed.
(...) He seemed to dwindle again to an old grey man, bent and troubled. Bilbo drew his hand over his eyes. I am sorry,' he said. 'But I felt só queer. And yet it would be a relief in a way not to be bothered with it any more. It has been so growing on my mind lately. Sometimes I have felt it was like an eye looking at me.
'Then trust mine,' said Gandalf. 'It is quite made up. Go away and leave it behind. Stop possessing it. Give it to Frodo, and I will look after him.'
Bilbo stood for a moment tense and undecided. Presently he sighed. 'All right,' he said with an effort.
(...) 'You have still got the ring in your pocket,' said the wizard.
'Well, so I have!' cried Bilbo. 'And my will and all the other documents too. You had better take it and deliver it for me. That will be safest.
''No, don't give the ring to me,' said Gandalf. 'Put it on the mantelpiece. It will be safe enough there, till Frodo comes.
A spasm of anger passed swiftly over the hobbit's face again. Suddenly it gave way to a look of relief and a laugh. 'Well, that's that,' he said. 'Now I'm off!' - LotR
Bilbo was strong enough to overcome his desire for the ring and turn away for it.
And Bilbo almost attacking Frodo in Rivendell upon seeing the Ring? It is Bilbo who asks Frodo to keep the Item:
Bilbo looked quickly at Frodo’s face and passed his hand across his eyes. ‘I understand now,’ he said. ‘Put it away! I am sorry: sorry you have come in for this burden; sorry about everything. - LotR
He acts pretty decent for someone in possession of an evil object. And if he's one to be ironic with his relatives, they provoked him first!
So yes, I agree with you too! Bilbo is incredibly virtuous, even when tempted by the ring.
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I apologize if this offends anyone whose opinion has already been expressed, but
It annoys me when they use the fact that Bilbo deceives his Hobbit relatives (by making himself disappear in front of everyone) as something to speak ill of his character and morals. Oh really?
I understand that his "joke" was solely and exclusively for his own amusement at the expense of his relatives.
But then using that as a way of claiming he was being evil is going too far.
We're talking about the same Hobbits who gave him up for dead, took his goods via auction and forced him to buy them back, didn't sketch any happiness to see Bilbo return alive and fine (mainly those who made good deals at the auction and some refused to acknowledge that he was even alive), gossiped about him for years (and not always on good terms), coveted his fortune (inventing that he lived in tunnels full of gold), spoke ill of him behind his back (and until it fell on Frodo, a Hobbit had the audacity to suggest that Frodo's parents murdered themselves, if they are capable of that I don't even think about the kind of gossip they invent).
And yet Bilbo tolerated them and was open-handed and good especially with the poorest, invited everyone to the feast, with food in abundance, gave gifts to everyone and was generally very friendly. And he did this even though the other Hobbits treated him hatefully, meanly, and persecutingly all those years.
And all why? why was Bilbo being himself like a Baggins and Took? He has done nothing deliberately bad and evil against the Hobbits, now his actions and behavior towards himself are his own concern, if anyone is offended by what Bilbo does with his time, money and body is not Bilbo's problem!
That's why people came to criticize him for the "joke" and say that it was evil on his part and that it was the influence of the Ring??? It seems more like an excuse to call him evil. The other Hobbits were pretty passive-aggressive for years and Bilbo had to put up with them! Bilbo was the loneliest of bachelors, with no trusted friends or neighbors.
List me the name of a true Hobbit friend of Bilbo's in the Shire! It achieved?
—Someone who has been worried about him?
—Someone who actually showed happiness to see him alive?
—Someone who cared about him without wanting anything in return? (Frodo doesn't count. And even Sam's relatives were more like servants, who being the only ones closest to Bilbo could claim that Mr. Baggins was nothing such gossip suggested).
Bilbo had few supporters, and he had no true Hobbits friends. Note that this was the case even BEFORE he went out on his adventure with the Dwarves, that is, even when he was trying to be a respectable Baggins, even when seeking such approval. After his adventure, he no longer cared about having lost the respect of his neighbors.
And the way the surrounding Hobbits treated him, I don't think Bilbo was the problem. List the behavior of the other Hobbits and you will have more evil actions than Bilbo in possession of the One Ring. And all why? Why did they treat him so badly? Why was Bilbo eccentric by Hobbit standards? Only?
I'm fine with you saying that Bilbo was mean by doing the "disappearing prank", as long as you admit that the other Hobbits exhibited even meaner behavior towards Bilbo. You mean Bilbo was being mean for the sake of the Ring? OK! But how do you explain the passive-aggressiveness of the other Hobbits towards Bilbo? They didn't have a Ring, so what's the point? So what's the excuse for this petty behavior?
Why were they so mean to Bilbo? Just because he was eccentric and different from what is expected of a Hobbit, rich, well off, and with friends from other races?
Of course, then "the disappearing joke" is bad. But the others Hobbits treating him else the worst is naturalized by fans. Seriously?
It is somewhat symbolic that Bilbo chose to "disappear from the sight of those Hobbits" like an joke.
If this attitude is what fans list to claim that he is "evil", I think are poorly arguments. Bilbo Baggins even in possession of the One Ring did not sketch as petty attitudes as his Hobbit neighbors. Curious?
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I loved that Bilbo, before Frodo even did this, offered to take the One Ring to Mordor, so Boromir is about to laugh like "who is this jokester? I didn't know there was a jester here" and then he stops because They ALL know that Bilbo is serious (although he uses a playful tone). And the Glóin looks like, "Yes. You courageous and audacious Hobbit, you're all I've remember of you."
‘Very well, very well, Master Elrond!’ said Bilbo suddenly. ‘Say no more! It is plain enough what you are pointing at. Bilbo the silly hobbit started this affair, and Bilbo had better finish it, or himself. I was very comfortable here, and getting on with my book. If you want to know, I am just writing an ending for it. I had thought of putting: and he lived happily ever afterwards to the end of his days. It is a good ending, and none the worse for having been used before. Now I shall have to alter that: it does not look like coming true; and anyway there will evidently have to be several more chapters, if I live to write them. It is a frightful nuisance. When ought I to start?’ Boromir looked in surprise at Bilbo, but the laughter died on his lips when he saw that all the others regarded the old hobbit with grave respect. Only Glóin smiled, but his smile came from old memories.
So Gandalf has to stop Bilbo, because he could no longer take the Ring. And to me that sounded more like: no, you're already too much of a protagonist, let other characters have a chance.
Hey, I swear Bilbo Baggins' name is repeated more times in the LotR books than the names of some members of the Fellowship. hahahahah Bilbo is a great protagonist for The Hobbit and a very charismatic supporting character in LotR.
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Other people could say that Fandom fills the holes that Doyle leaves in the plot, others could say that he leaves clues for us to piece together the facts. The thing is, I love how we are "invited" to fill in the story: Watson is a gambler, based on what he says in A Study in Scarlet and the short story Shoscombe Old Place. So Holmes keeps some of his money under control to help him, just as Watson helps him with the cocaine.
It's even in relation to Watson's middle name. His wife calls him James in one of the short stories (because after all, how could she call him by the wrong name?), which led us to assume that it is a variation of Hamish, and that therefore this is the meaning of John. H Watson (although I still prefer to imagine in my daydreams that it is H from Holmes, ahahahah).
Watson also marries twice in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, one year he is married to one, and in the same year he is married to another. in The Five Orange Pips is 1887 and he says he is married. In Irene Adler's story (A Scandal in Bohemia) Watson says that it is March 1888, and that he is married, but he only meets Mary in September 1888, The Sign of Four. What happened to the first wife? And also in Hound of the Baskervilles in 1889, he does not appear to lead a married life. Although other tales suggest so. He marries once more before Holmes retires. Watson's wives never have names, with the exception of Marry. Although the dates suggest he was married at least three times, some fans assume it may have been more given that without the names they could be different women. There are so many holes, like Watson telling a story in the year Holmes was supposed to be dead (or there's Watson's wound, sometimes on the arm, sometimes on the leg), that it leaves room for us to create an acceptable headcanon however we want. I personally think of wives as a convenient excuse to stifle potential suspicions that he and Holmes might be together (you know, the Sodomy and Gross Indecency thing).
I think it's convenient that Watson gets married at times when people might start to assume anything between him and Holmes, and then forgets that he's married at other times.
The point is that Watson/Doyle, being a terrible narrator of facts, leaves room for many different theories.
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THE DANCING MEN doodles…one of the iconic openings. I couldn’t even come up with anything to draw about this part, but I DO feel like I need to share that Sherlock Holmes keeps Watson’s checkbook locked up like what does this MEAN?
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anneangel · 18 days
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Bilbo my beloved❤️
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Bilbo’s sass is truly legendary 😂
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anneangel · 19 days
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Have you noticed that Bilbo was a Hobbit described as:
“(...) bedrooms, bathrooms, cellars, pantries (lots of these), wardrobes (he had whole rooms devoted to clothes), kitchens, dining-rooms” e “panelled walls, and floors tiled and carpeted, provided with polished chairs, and lots and lots of pegs for hats and coats—the hobbit was fond of visitors”.
And in the end:
There was a great commotion, and people of all sorts, respectable and unrespectable, were thick round the door, and many were going in and out—not even wiping their feet on the mat, as Bilbo noticed with annoyance. If he was surprised, they were more surprised still. He had arrived back in the middle of an auction! (…) would sell by auction the effects of the late Bilbo Baggins, of Bag-End, Underhill, Hobbiton. (…) most of the things had already been sold, for various prices from next to nothing to old songs (as is not unusual at auctions). Bilbo’s cousins the Sackville-Bagginses were, in fact, busy measuring his rooms to see if their own furniture would fit. In short Bilbo was “Presumed Dead”, and not everybody that said so was sorry to find the presumption wrong. (…) The legal bother, indeed, lasted for years. It was quite a long time before Mr. Baggins was in fact admitted to be alive again. The people who had got specially good bargains at the Sale took a deal of convincing; and in the end to save time Bilbo had to buy back quite a lot of his own furniture. (…) Many of his silver spoons mysteriously disappeared and were never accounted for. Personally he suspected the Sackville-Bagginses. On their side they never admitted that the returned Baggins was genuine, and they were not on friendly terms with Bilbo ever after. (…) he was no longer quite respectable. He was in fact held by all the hobbits of the neighbourhood to be ‘queer’—except by his nephews and nieces on the Took side, but even they were not encouraged in their friendship by their elders. I am sorry to say he did not mind. (…) many shook their heads and touched their foreheads and said “Poor old Baggins!” and few believed any of his tales.
It must have been a little sad for Bilbo to realize that nobody welcomed him and no one welcomed his return, none any happiness, see, he came back safe and sound, after disappearing for 14 months, and it seemed like everyone preferred him dead, sad to know that most of the hobbits, neighbors and relatives he had, were only interested in his house, possessions, comfort and his money, instead of care with him, his happiness, security and feelings.
And yet he did not become someone as truly reclusive and elusive as seems, he only kept close to those who truly liked him, remained friends with Gandalf, the Dwarves and the Elves, adopted Frodo and taught Sam to read, as well as welcoming Merry and Pippin in Bag End for being Frodo's friends.
It is true that for ever after he remained an elf-friend, and had the honour of dwarves, wizards, and all such folk as ever passed that way (…) He took to writing poetry and visiting the elves (…), he remained very happy to the end of his days, and those were extraordinarily long.
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Every time I look at these gifs want watch on loop because 're so good, then I want to watch Granada Holmes again because it's more perfect than I remembered even a minute ago.
Then @atasteofholmes says: I learned how to make Gifs today. Me: not kidding!
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The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: s2e2 ~ The Greek Interpreter
It took me all day to figure out how to make these gifs!
But I think I've got the method down, and that's about to become everyones problem 😈
I can't stop obsessing over the look on Sherlocks face as he watches John process everything.
More sets from this episode to come, let me know if you want to be tagged in future sets!
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anneangel · 25 days
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My out-of-order rewatch episode is The Speckled Band. One of my favourites! I wonder what they were thinking…
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