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avabarton5 · 1 month ago
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The British offered Uganda to Herzl after the Pogrom in Kishinev in 1903 because they felt slightly “bad” about the horror of the situation. When Herzl proposed it at the Zionist Congress, a lot of people (mostly rabbanim from Eastern Europe who had just underwent this tragedy) agreed to take Uganda as a temporary solution. They wanted somewhere to act as a sanction so something like what happened in Kishinev wouldn’t happen again. BUT a man named Asher Ginsberg an anti-religious Jew, was very into “Judaism as a culture should be in their land” thus prompting the whole Palestinian region. But there were many people who were all for Uganda to act as a temporary haven for Jews so they won’t be slaughtered. They didn’t take it, obviously, and forty years later two thirds of Europe’s Jewish population was murdered. 
Happens to be, Jews were migrating to the Middle East in the later 1880s after the pogroms of 1881-1883 in Russia under the “organization” (C)Hovivei Tzion and there were plenty of Jews in the Old Yishuv but the whole “Jewish State” thing that Herzl wanted was for the protection of the Jews. And at the time that Uganda was offered, many people were willing to take it if it weren’t for the more secular, cultural, anti-religious view that took over causing many rabbis to leave the movement 
(if you have any further information, I’d like to hear what you have to say and what you’ve learned about early Zionism)
You know, when Theodore Herzl held the Zionist Convention in the late 1800s he was expecting a lot of like-minded people to join. Those who wanted a culture, some sort of state where Jews can be model citizens (like they are) and not get persecuted like the whole Dreyfus Affair of 1894-1904. But what he got instead was a bunch of Eastern European Rabbis. Why? Because in Eastern Europe (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus) they Jews didn’t have any fear of assimilation like in the West because everyone in the East was dirt poor. No. The rabbis came to show their support for the Zionist movement so that their people wouldn’t literally be cowering in their houses. Antisemitism in the East wasn’t about defamation or newspaper articles, it was pogroms. Murder sprees and real violence. The worst pogrom being the Kishinev Massacre in 1903.
The Zionist movement was never “let’s get rid of the Palestinians!” It was “oh! Having our own land might be good so then our neighbors won’t fucking kill is when they feel bored!” In the beginning it was even about the area of Palestine! They were going to take a part of Uganda! (Now some part of Kenya) 
So all those people saying “ZiOniSm wAs FoRmEd To gET rID of tHe PaleStIniAns” is wrong and bigoted. It was never about the Palestinians, it was always about the safety of the Jewish people because we were never safe. No matter how integrated into society we are. No matter how well off. No matter how well behaved citizens we are, if we are Jewish, we deserve to die. Hitler taught us that. He taught us that every Jew is a Jew no matter if his family converted to Christianity four generations ago. Jews will always be hated and persecuted and punished. 
But you know? Rav Naftli Zvi Yehuda Berlin (נצי״ב) says something really interesting on the words of the Haggadah ״והיא שעמדה״ the question goes what’s the “והיא” what is the “this”
The Netziv brings down the words God promised Avraham ״כי גר יהיה זרעך בארץ לא להם…וגם את הגוי אשריעבידו דן אנוכי״ the Netziv says that the promise that we will always be strangers and never be completely able to assimilate into whatever land we are in is the promise that stood for us. Because, when we realize how much we can’t rely on the goyim or the country around us we are reminded that only God can help, and we call out and He does help. (This whole thing got away from me but I learned this in class recently and it really stuck with me anyway back to my point) 
THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE A SAFETY NET FOR JEWS AFTER THE HORRORS AND ATROCITIES OF NAZI OCCUPIED EUROPE BUT THE IDEA OF A JEWISH STATE STARTED WAY BEFORE THEN BUT FOR THE SAME REASON—SAFETY. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS. THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO KICK OUT THE PALESTINIANS! WE JUST WANTED A PLACE WHERE WE CAN LIVE LOFE WITHOUT THE FEAR OF SOMEONE SHOOTING US JUST BECAUSE WE EXIST. 
and the saddest part is, even with an established Jewish State we’re still afraid that someone will come banging down our doors and burn our babies in the ovens or whack our heads of with a garden hoe.
for us, it was never “let’s got rid of the Palestinians” I but for the Palestinians it was always “let’s kill all the Jews”
so we did what we created the state of israel to do: protect ourselves because no one else will do it for us.
thank you. 
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avabarton5 · 1 month ago
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You know, when Theodore Herzl held the Zionist Congress in the late 1800s he was expecting a lot of like-minded people to join. Those who wanted a culture, some sort of state where Jews can be model citizens (like they are) and not get persecuted like the whole Dreyfus Affair of 1894-1904. But what he got instead was a bunch of Eastern European Rabbis. Why? Because in Eastern Europe (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus) they Jews didn’t have any fear of assimilation like in the West because everyone in the East was dirt poor. No. The rabbis came to show their support for the Zionist movement so that their people wouldn’t literally be cowering in their houses. Antisemitism in the East wasn’t about defamation or newspaper articles, it was pogroms. Murder sprees and real violence. The worst pogrom being the Kishinev Massacre in 1903.
The Zionist movement was never “let’s get rid of the Palestinians!” It was “oh! Having our own land might be good so then our neighbors won’t fucking kill us when they feel bored!” In the beginning it wasn’t even about the area of Palestine! They were going to take a part of Uganda! (Now some part of Kenya) 
So all those people saying “ZiOniSm wAs FoRmEd To gET rID of tHe PaleStIniAns” is wrong and bigoted. It was never about the Palestinians, it was always about the safety of the Jewish people because we were never safe. No matter how integrated into society we are. No matter how well off. No matter how well behaved citizens we are, if we are Jewish, we deserve to die. Hitler taught us that. He taught us that every Jew is a Jew no matter if his family converted to Christianity four generations ago. Jews will always be hated and persecuted and punished. 
But you know? Rav Naftli Zvi Yehuda Berlin (נצי״ב) says something really interesting on the words of the Haggadah ״והיא שעמדה״ the question goes what’s the “והיא” what is the “this”
The Netziv brings down the words God promised Avraham ״כי גר יהיה זרעך בארץ לא להם…וגם את הגוי אשריעבידו דן אנוכי״ the Netziv says that the promise that we will always be strangers and never be completely able to assimilate into whatever land we are in is the promise that stood for us. Because, when we realize how much we can’t rely on the goyim or the country around us we are reminded that only God can help, and we call out and He does help. (This whole thing got away from me but I learned this in class recently and it really stuck with me anyway back to my point) 
THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE A SAFETY NET FOR JEWS AFTER THE HORRORS AND ATROCITIES OF NAZI OCCUPIED EUROPE BUT THE IDEA OF A JEWISH STATE STARTED WAY BEFORE THEN BUT FOR THE SAME REASON—SAFETY. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS. THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO KICK OUT THE PALESTINIANS! WE JUST WANTED A PLACE WHERE WE CAN LIVE LOFE WITHOUT THE FEAR OF SOMEONE SHOOTING US JUST BECAUSE WE EXIST. 
and the saddest part is, even with an established Jewish State we’re still afraid that someone will come banging down our doors and burn our babies in the ovens or whack our heads of with a garden hoe.
for us, it was never “let’s got rid of the Palestinians” I but for the Palestinians it was always “let’s kill all the Jews”
so we did what we created the state of israel to do: protect ourselves because no one else will do it for us.
thank you. 
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avabarton5 · 1 month ago
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I am sorry but if you think that the Jews who say out loud "we want to live in peace with Palestinians and we want a two state solution" are the bad guys While the people shouting "death to Israel", "Israeli settlers should be killed", "we need another October 7th", "Jews dont deserve a country" and etc are the good guys Then your moral compass is fucked
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avabarton5 · 1 month ago
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"you shouldn't be antisemetic because you're legitimising Israel when you do" no you shouldn't be antisemetic because it hurts Jews who deserve to not be hurt, like any other human being. you should care about not being antisemetic because it hurts people, and that should be enough for you. why isn't it enough for you?
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avabarton5 · 1 month ago
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avabarton5 · 1 month ago
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We need to start actively calling the leftists that uhhh *checks notes* plot to murder hundreds of jews with one of the most dangerous and painful poisons known to man, neonazis. Can we do that? Can we start calling them leftist neonazis? I feel physically sick. No more, no more quarter for the movement, if it talks like a nazi, walks like a nazi, and tries to torture jews like a nazi, its a nazi.
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avabarton5 · 1 month ago
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Whenever I see people get into another slap fight about who's indigenous to the Israel/Palestine area it just makes me want to scream because it literally doesn't matter. It doesn't matter?? It doesn't matter!!! Sorry if this is some crazy sacrilegious thing we aren't supposed to say anymore but we are no longer talking about shit like cultural appropriation or who should be allowed to build this or that temple we are literally talking about whether it's ok to hack a civilian's head off with a garden hoe or shoot dead medical workers who have their hands tied behind their backs or rape a teen girl three times and then lock her in her car and set it on fire and laugh as she burns to death or force civilians to walk into buildings that have been booby trapped by a terror organization or strangle a literal 9 month year old baby to death and I cannot fucking believe people will use arguments about who's indigenous to an area to justify this shit but they do. They really do.
Pop quiz for all the terminally online braindead leftists out there who have been so brainrotted by tiktok that they forgot what human rights are: Who was indigenous to Germany during the Holocaust, the ethnic Germans, or the Jews?
Follow up question, do you really think it mattered? Is there any universe in which you would think the Holocaust was ok because the Jews aren't indigenous to Germany, and the Germans are? What fucking warped schools of thought are you producing with your AI generated short form video content algorithms, that is turning you into some crazy blood and soil lunatic who thinks we can use someone's DNA or culture to determine whether or not it's ok to kill them?
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avabarton5 · 5 months ago
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I just want to make it clear that Hamas shot and mutilated and burnt alive 38 children on October 7th including seven children under the age of six. They also kidnapped 42 more. Hamas shot and killed one of the child hostages, a 12 year old autistic girl, and her grandma, a few hours after kidnapping them, presumably because they decided that keeping them as hostages would be too much of a hassle because of the girl's disability. They burnt an entire family, including a two year old toddler and twin five year old girls, alive. They shot a different nine month year old baby than the one who is being mourned today in the head. Another 12 year old girl was burnt alive that day along with 13 other civilians who were kidnapped, and her body was so mutilated it took a month to identify her remains. What happened to the Bibas children is not an anomaly. This is the organization that people around the world have chosen to celebrate and the organization that student groups at elite universities globally are choosing to very bluntly support and champion as #resistance against imperialism or colonization or whatever the justification for child murder is today. They are antisemitic terrorists and absolutely nobody has the right to act like what they have done is a shock. They announce over and over that this, Jewish civilian death, is their goal, and they repeatedly attain it because the entire world enables them and celebrates it when they kill Jewish kids.
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avabarton5 · 1 year ago
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WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?! I am not ok
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avabarton5 · 1 year ago
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War is bad. And we all know this. But I think that no matter what side of a war you're on, we can all agree on one thing.
All wars would cease to exist if both sides were sat down and given a bowl of hot soup.
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avabarton5 · 1 year ago
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ok so, I finally realized this and I feel so stupid that it took me this long BUT in Ruthlessness Poseidon says “The line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible” AFTER Odysseus apologizes for stabbing Polyphemus. Ody swallows his pride and apologizes hoping that Poseidon will spare him and his crew. And then our mans Poseidon goes “bitch, you thought I’d let you go?? Naw naw, you’re NAIVE I’m going to kill you anyway! I just wanted to see you grovel and beg.” that’s what the line is! And it took me this long to figure out what the hell it meant.
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avabarton5 · 2 years ago
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Title: Drowning (Please Don't Save Me) Chapters: 1/1 Words: 12.4k Rating: Mature Pairing: Jin Yuichi/Tachikawa Kei Warnings: Major Character Death
Summary:
It’s the only way. The only way to prevent all that he’s seeing from happening. His tragic decision. It won’t happen because he won’t be around to make it. 
He finally found his answer. After days of searching and looking and coming up with nothing. He’s finally got it. A laugh bubbles in his chest and releases as a garbled sound into the depths. He’ll do it. To save everyone. It’s the only way he can think of; he’s got nothing else to work with. 
Yuichi heads to the only place he knows. 
The water. 
OR it’s called a Side Effect for a reason.
(Heavy Angst, Hurt No Comfort, Character Study, Unreliable Narrator)
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avabarton5 · 3 years ago
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I have a question. 
Is it Edogawa RaNpo or Edogawa RaMpo? Because I’ve seen both used but in the recent episode he introduces himself as RaMpo. 
I’m confused. Which one is it?
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avabarton5 · 3 years ago
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I recently finished the novel Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky. First off it was absolutely incredible.  second, I can really understand Fyodor’s character now and it makes me like him all the more. Like, everything makes sense now.
Anyway, it’s a 10000/10 book. Fyodor is on another level and I totally recommend reading Crime and Punishment for your own benefit. It’s truly an amazing novel. 
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avabarton5 · 3 years ago
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Some Baby Odasaku for your soul
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avabarton5 · 3 years ago
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Elected Chapter211
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(I just made up a number, if that is your number I apologize and I give you permission to punch me in the face)
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