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citruspeel · 5 years
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Never did I think this’d happen 😵 Thank you so much for the mention! I’m very happy you enjoyed it 😭
Top 5 Jonsa fics you've read.
1. warmth by @citruspeel
2. nothing burns like the cold by @jen-snow
3. two fools in love by @shakespearianne
4. wool & tallow by @orangeflavoryawp
5. the things we do for love by @ladywolfmd
much love to ALL of the jonsa content creators out there, for real!!
ask me my top 5/10 anything!!
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And they never wanted to leave, never wanted to leave.
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“Goodbyes are only one side of the coin. You can’t say goodbye until you’ve said hello.”
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citruspeel · 5 years
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Can we all agree that Jon was his most handsome self when he was around Sansa in Season 6.
Like they literally made him look more gorgeous & stately, sigh… my heart 😢
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citruspeel · 5 years
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You know who’s definitely writing a fix-it fic?
George RR Martin.
The way the show got to the ending probably fueled him even more to finish the books haha
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citruspeel · 5 years
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I agree with this post.
I read the petition maker’s statement on Reddit. He said he was just doing it to ‘make a statement to HBO’ and that he ‘never meant an actual remake.’ Also said that he was doing it to to defend the cast and crew and give them the better-written ending that their hard work deserved.
TBH it sounded like a big backpedal. I bet he updated the rationale when the petition reached the cast and crew’s ears and reworked it so it sounded more palatable. He then said his update just came too late.
You can make a statement about your dissatisfaction with the writing through a lot of things - open letters, fanfic, whatever. Or just plain say they deserved more, applaud their hard work, etc. But this person’s reaction is to actively petition it being ‘remade’. Signing it means you’re going to ask them for even more hard work to deliver a product you’ll be satisifed with.
How is -that- appreciating the hard work the cast and crew? Sounds like a sugarcoated justified tantrum to me.
PS:
With the whole ‘I never intended an actual remake’ etc. If he never really intended one from the start, he wouldn’t have said ‘remake’ at all. What’s the point of ending the petition summary with ‘Subvert my expectations and make it happen, HBO!’?
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There are a lot of things about S8 of GOT that I too did not love. HOWEVER, I think the petulant petition is fucking dumb. And the thing that annoys me about the petition bullshit the most is this completely asinine (also, fake) narrative that the people that put this thing together and/or signed it are somehow “supporting” the cast and crew by making their dissent public. But are you? Are you really? And more importantly, does the cast and crew you’re supposedly doing this for think so? Hmmm…step into my office and let’s find out:
Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark) thinks your “petition and things like that” are “disrespectful.” (NYT)
Jacob Anderson (Greyworm) thinks you’re “rude” and also wants to remind you that the show doesn’t belong to you. Also, he thinks your petition “trivializes” all the hard work that the cast and crew put into this last season and that you doing so is “sad.” (see appearance on Strahan and Sara)
Isaac Hempstead Wright (Bran Stark) thinks your petition is “ridiculous” and has kind of “taken it personally” so great job there, assholes. (The Hollywood Reporter)
Pedro Pascal (Oberyn Martell) wants you to shut up. And he wasn’t even in season 8. (Twitter)
Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen) claims she’s never heard of your shitty band. (The New Yorker)
Daniel Portman (Podrick Payne) has resorted to making snide petition jokes via twitter and/or reblogged others that have done so. (Twitter)
And finally…Kit Harington (Jon Snow) “doesn’t give a fuck” what you think. In fact, he literally said you can “go fuck yourself.” (Esquire)
But yeah, you lot are totally right, this cast and crew is absolutely basking in the warmth and comfort of your support. 🙄
Twats.
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Game of Thrones  (April 17, 2011–May 19, 2019)
A long time ago, she remembered her father saying that when the cold winds blow the lone wolf dies but the pack survives. 
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citruspeel · 5 years
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Jonsa fam, listen again to ‘From the Grave’ on the GoT spotify playlist. It makes a LOT more sense.
Especially:
‘Don’t give up when I’m gone.
...The fire I would walk through
For all the pain I caused you
Oh I would pay the cost
To be in your arms again. ‘
PLUS
‘No border can keep us apart
And on the other side I’ll meet you there’
Border.
The Wall.
I used to think this was largely a Rhaegar/Lyanna song but -
Dead/man from the grave
Woman with flowers in her hair
NO BORDER
(okay it might be the loss of my ship that’s making me delusional but STILL)
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citruspeel · 5 years
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SOMEONE INTERVIEW BRYAN COGMAN ASAP
We need the captain of our ship!!
PAGING BRYAN COGMAN
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GoT S8E6 Review: Part 1:  The D/evolution of Jon Snow
The show has finally ended, and I have a LOT of feelings. I have to dissect them in parts. First - Jon Snow. Just why exactly did the star of S6 and S7 lose his IQ in this season? Here’s what I think:
The D/evolution of Jon Snow
A lot (myself included) have found S8’s Jon quite lacking. It’s understandable why – the past seasons’ Jons have been worthy of our support. He had more spirit, drive, and gusto. He was assertive when needed. In my opinion, what kept him going during the past seasons was because he had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Season 8 reverses this: once Daenerys is in power, he has everything to lose and nothing to gain. This makes makes S8’s Jon different. 
This might get long, but I’ll explain:
During S6 and S7, it was all or nothing for Jon. Everything he did in S6 and S7 was to secure the safety of his family and people.  Fight Ramsay no matter the odds, to save Rickon and Winterfell. Go down south even if a Targaryen might harm him, to save The North and the Realm. But this S8, he already achieves what he had been fighting for – the North, their safety, his family’s safety. Once Daenerys goes on her violent streak, he realizes that if he moves against her, he’d only have everything to lose.
Hence Jon was so cowardly this season. I don’t think it was because of Political Jon. It was just his way of protecting his people from Daenerys’s wrath. That’s why he keeps shooting daggers at his family, so that they’d be safe. That’s why he doesn’t take Varys’s offer of support. It’s not the honourable way – it’s the smart way, the way Sansa had told him before – but he does it regardless. He tries to keep his Queen happy through his lapdog ways to not lose everything he’s worked hard to gain.
I won’t lie. There are times wherein I really, truly believe that Jon had feelings for Daenerys, even if I didn’t like it. There are moments that sold me on their supposed romance. And I’d buy it. If Jon was attracted to Dany because of their shared genes, or because she’s a beautiful warrior queen, or whatever. I’d take it. I’d understand. But to be honest, the moments that make me question Jon’s feelings for Daenerys far outnumber the moments I believed him.
The forced chemistry between him and Daenerys. The awkward romance. The lack of replies we get from him. The way he seems to be so cold when he said that he loved her. We’ve all seen Jon in love with Ygritte and the warmth that comes from him when he truly is in love. None of that is present with Dany. There’s always hesitation, caution, deference. No equality. If it was truly an epic romance, made to make us swoon and sigh, the production team certainly had lots of ways to make us feel it – but they didn’t. And it’s not that they can’t – we’re talking about professionals here. They really chose not to.
Jon’s relationship with Dany - may it be born out of love, attraction, or need - has a foundation that isn’t as stable as it should be. And just like in rushed relationships, when you’re not completely sold yet but you dive right into it, and you get to see the darker side of your SO, you start to second-guess yourself. We have the liberty of noping out relationships, but in Jon’s case, he doesn’t. Because if he does, his SO has the power to take away everything he had worked so hard to protect.
We have seen that Jon has been second-guessing himself for a while now. He may have been really in love with Daenerys, but during the latter parts, we’ve seen him falter. His irritated face when Dany spoke to Tyrion harshly was a taste; his reaction during the siege of King’s Landing,  especially when he had seen the violence she was capable of, was a fuller version. Whatever love and attraction he has for Dany has been replaced by fear.
We know Jon. S6 S7 Jon wouldn’t stand for unneeded carnage, as Team Targ had doled it out. The looks he had when he watched the demolition of King’s Landing shows that he wasn’t. His face when he heard the war speech he couldn’t understand showed it. But S8 Jon would try to stomach it, when it means he can save his family and his people.
Jon doesn’t try to do the right thing, even when Tyrion does all he can to prompt him. Tyrion uses everything he could. She believes it’s her destiny, she believes she’s right, she’ll kill you afterwards, you wouldn’t do it, Jon. Tyrion tries to reason with him, uses the lives of the realm as an argument, goes for a personal attack, but Jon doesn’t budge. He wants to protect them from her wrath the easiest way he knows how – by backing down, because he doesn’t want to lose everything again, too.  They do say that the greatest generals don’t know just how to attack - they also know when to retreat.
Out of fear of losing what he worked for, that he made the wrong choice, he defends Dany. (I was very frustrated at this point.) Tyrion has been in his shoes, but he knows what made him see the bigger picture, finally - the loss of family. The way he lost Jaime and Cersei. So he goes straight for the jugular – ‘What about your sisters?’
At this point, Jon realizes that his cowardice and selfishness brought more harm than good. While he was in his rights to stop Daenerys, he didn’t. He had the power to fight Daenerys, he didn’t. He wanted to follow Daenerys to save the North, but it wasn’t going to go the way he wanted. His deference would bring harm to his family, so he decided then and there to end this himself.
To me, this was the return of S6/S7 Jon. Determined. Driven. The Jon who offered a one-on-one with Ramsay Bolton to reclaim Winterfell. The Jon who brought up that stupid idea of going on a zombie hunt to convince the realm. This was Jon deciding to own up to his mistakes and protect the people and his family the only way he could - assassinate the Dragon Queen himself. Listed like this, it sounds like a Stupid but Noble Jon Snow Plan, right?
When the moment comes, Jon gives Daenerys a chance. I believe a part of him did love and empathize with her, but he knows who she truly is now, and there’s no going back. A break-up of the hardest kind. When their argument comes to a head, he knows what he needs to do. He knows that it is over.
But this is Jon. Softhearted Jon, who couldn’t bear to kill Ygritte. Because he still cares for Daenerys, while not exactly loving her romantically anymore, he tries to soften the blow. That’s why for me, his last words to her aren’t a profession of loyalty or love – it’s a…soothing balm, something to appease her as he ultimately betrays her.
‘You are my Queen. Now and forever.’
This is pure, peak Jon. The Jon who would sacrifice anything for the good of the realm – regardless of what people would think of him. It just came too late.
There is tragedy in this. That ultimately, he is the hero Westeros didn’t deserve. The King that Should Have Been. But the endings are open for a reason. (will post next on this!)  
Also, what’s really curious is how it is Tyrion saying ‘sisters’ that pushes Jon over the edge. 
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citruspeel · 5 years
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I’ll say it out loud: Jonsa WAS there. D&D (or HBO) just didn’t have the guts to call it out.
We’re not blind, guys. I refuse to believe that S6-S7’s intense Jonsa lines, looks, and arguments meant absolutely nothing. The Littlefinger chokehold scene, Davos reacting to the Theon collar-grab scene, Tyrion’s ‘You seem determined to dislike her’ scene. Even Brienne. Characters were told to react a certain way and knowing how D&D were so specific about looks and seconds, I don’t believe they didn’t think of doing Jonsa.
Because S7’s ‘What do you want that you don’t have’ is too big a line to just leave hanging. Reading how people are so ready to let go of their subscriptions after GoT ends, and how violently people are reacting to Dany being evil, some executive at HBO probably begged D&D to at least cut it out. They killed Dany - it would be enough.
Because come on.
Tyrion -knew- that if he used the ‘sisters’ word, he’d get Jon to act. He could have used ‘siblings’, ‘family’, ‘your home’. After all, Bran was still alive. But Tyrion used ‘sisters’, as if he knew he was referring to a certain special someone that would spur Jon into action - connote a special someone in a manner that wouldn’t alarm Jon.
Plus, several mentions of Sansa’s name?
So Jonsa is there, I think. They just didn’t call it out.
Edit: If ever GRRM is writing his books, we might see more of the internal strife he wanted there. So let’s wait for that.
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GoT S8E5: It’s ‘disappointing’, and I like it that way? [SPOILERS]
If you’re looking for the classic victorious story, well, GoT isn’t it.
A lot of people are hating on S8 right now because it ‘turned’ on a lot of characters. They say it’s disappointing, the worst finale ever, etc. But as I sat staring at the credits, after Arya rides away, all I could think of was ‘...this is what I’ve been waiting for.’
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My dad was in shock. My sister-in-law was near crying. But deep inside me was a current of agreement. I wasn’t completely satisfied, but yes, a lot of what happened last ep were things I had been waiting for. Daenerys turning dark, Jaime saving Cersei. A lot of people have been expecting perfect poetic happy endings, and again, Game of Thrones stripped everything away. Classic GRRM. Classic GoT. It’s Ned getting beheaded all over again.
My main reactions on plot points:
Daenerys going dark - I like how they handled Dany trying to keep her composure, trying to stay calm while the bells were ringing. But her anger still just fueled her to unleash her wrath. It’s a human reaction. But at the same time, she -still- could’ve stopped after air-raiding once or twice after the surrender. But she didn’t, and she even went after civilians. People are saying that it’s such a waste that the writers did this to Daenerys’s character, but most of these people had been blinded by Dany’s ‘savior’ approach during the first seasons. They weren’t able to see just how much destruction she is capable of. She’s attractive in the big picture but that’s it - once you see her in action, there’s no going back.
Varys’s death - Liked his exchange with Tyrion. ‘I hope I deserve this.’ He did his duty fair and square for me. Warned Dany, she didn’t listen, then he did what was good for the realm. Then she burned him.
Grey Worm’s attack - Can’t blame him. Anger and revenge. To the people saying D&D are portraying women in such a bad light because Dany and Cersei are women in positions of power and are going off the rails because of their emotions, Grey Worm is a male example. Jon back in the Battle of the Bastards is an example. So let’s take some goggles off.
Jaime’s downfall - We all don’t want this. You know what, instinctively, the first time I watched s8e4, I got that Jaime’s attachment to Cersei was near visceral, that he can’t escape it. That even if he does want genuine, light and carefree happiness, he wasn’t made for it. Hearing about Cersei and her impending doom just brought back this unhealthy connection and he knew deep in his core he had to do something. He loved Brienne, but his connection to Cersei was too great to ignore. And his sins were too grave for him to be happy. But I read meta. Some defenses. And I fooled myself to thinking ‘Jaime will kill Cersei and be with Brienne’ for a happy ending. But this is GRRM, GoT. While I don’t like it at all, I knew Jaime going back to Cersei was inescapable. I didn’t want it to happen, but I...*HEAVY SIGH* understood.
Cersei’s death - I wanted her death to be worse. More agony. Let her die -alone-. But...again, I *HEAVY SIGH* I understand.
Northmen vs Lannisters - I near-wished that upon hearing Dany’s dragon roaring, they’d mutually agree that she was their opponent, but no.
Sapochnik’s direction - with this ep, it’s another showcase of his battle camera tricks. I still like his ‘follow a character’ style to really get a feel of what it is like to be in a battle. I just wanted grander shots, I suppose, of the more intimate moments. A long shot of Jaime and Cersei against the crumbling keep. A wider shot of the stairs during Cleganebowl. Some negative space that would really make you concentrate on what was happening emotionally. But I still liked it.
Music - Ramin’s use of electric guitar was new and appreciated! And that soft music when Jaime and Cersei go. A+.
Tyrion - I guess he’s the ‘little brother’ in Cersei’s prophecy.
Jon is usual Jon. Following this, TargBowl it is.
So, verdict: GoT isn’t your usual good vs evil story. It takes on the nitty gritty of reality, uses unexpected twists and turns, and features the horrors of actual battle and war. So I get it that people are disappointed. But it’s this very focus on the horrors of war and the human heart in conflict that made me like the episode a lot.
(Also Jonsa take: Jon will confront Sansa next episode about tattling and a discussion/confession might take place???)
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citruspeel · 5 years
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ALL OF THIS!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Hear me out. 08×04 was good.
Ripped our hearts out at points. But life isn’t fair, and GOT was never meant to be fair either.
On Jon + Ghost
Yes. Maddening. How could Jon leave Ghost behind?
But guys. That shot of Jon walking away was a shot of Sam and Gilly, Tormund, Ghost, and Winterfell. It was a shot that sums up who Jon has been all his life. It is a metaphor for him walking away and leaving this pasr behind.
With all the behind-the-scenes pressure on Jon (Varys wants him to be King, Sansa conspires for this as well, Arya does not trust his Queen, darker Dany implications), obviously he will have to make some crucial decisions. And I think, he will do what he thinks is right, he will despise the idea of power even further, and will return to the North. Like Ghost, he does not belong to the South. The seemingly careless goodbye is a metaphor of him abandoning who he is, only to return where he truly belongs.
And that’s Jon’s arc now. His war is over, and he will decide who he is. Stark or Targaryen or Snow? Ruler or warrior? Etc.
On Missandei
Heartbreaking. Absolutely heartbreaking. She was good and loyal to the very end and brave and deserved better.
Unfortunately, life does not give us what we deserve and neither does GOT. At this point, it makes sense that Cersei would take someone Dany cares about. It makes sense that she would kill her. It was, truly, awful and painful, but not untrue to the story. And that’s all that is to be said.
On Jaimie and Brienne
I know. When they got together I swear my heart was racing. And when Jaimie left I was like… what the hell.
But it makes sense. Jaimie, as much as we love him, has done some inherently unforgivable things. His fate has always been tied to Cersei. But he isn’t going to save her now. Not this time.
It’s not clear to us yet what his intentions are. Is he going there just because their fates are tied? Is he going there to save her? Is he going there without really knowing why?
Either way, Jaimie now knows what man he wants to be. He’s already left Cersei when he saw who she was. He also knows who he is.
I am firm in my belief that Jaimie will kill Cersei. Yes, I think he will die; he leave the world as he reached it, with Cersei, but finally free of her influence. Not a good man, because he is not. Not a bad man, because he is not that either.
Jaimie’s story has been about freeing himself from Cersei; he does this by fulfilling the valonqar prophecy. Brienne could not have her happy ending with him for this to happen as much as she deserved better. And it makes their stories (Jaimie’s redemption and Brienne’s true love and abolition of black-and-white morals) all the more tragically and heartbreakingly beautiful.
On Cersei
This. Was. Peak. Cersei.
The smart evil queen we love to hate, who knew Dany would go to Dragonstone, took down one of her dragons, and then her entire flee. Because she is smart. This is the strategy GOT was missing in battle.
On Dany
Ok. I’ve talked about this before. I knew she was going to go dark. And you know what? I love that they are not fucking up her arc by not doing it or by doing it in a black and white sort of way. Doing it like this is an unseen plot twist: a character poised to be the protagonist becoming someone she never wanted to become.
And the best part is you can feel for Dany. She does have a good heart. She is charismatic. As great as Jon, if not better, because not only she inspires love and rides dragons, she birthed them while she had nothing.
And now, no one appreciates this. Nor do they give her enough credit for the battle against the WW. On top of this, the one thing she wants her entire life is threatened by the man she loves. The only one she has left, as well: Dany is left alone, without those who have been with her forever. With 2 dead children, Jorah and Misandei gone.
It is not an excuse per se. But you see where she is coming from. You are tempted to excuse her. You can’t hate her. This is tragic. Because you can see how Misandei’s Dracarys can haunt her. And even if it will mean the death of innocents, I can imagine many good people still saying it, because this is how much they loved and fought.
That is peak GOT. Complex arcs. Tragic arcs. Villains you can understand: villains who were never meant to be or wanted to be villains. Not just “mad”. That would be boring af.
Tyrion and Varys
Ok. FINALLY some good dialogue. FINALLY some ethical discussions. Who deserves power? How far should you go to ensure the right person is on the throne? Missed you, Game of Thrones.
(Also. Tyrion. Never wanted power. Always accepted sitting on the sidelines to correct other people’s fuck ups, but always with good itnentions. If Jon doesn’t want the throne, could Tyrion get it? If there’s a throne at the end of this.)
Sansa, caring about her family but playing the game, because this is how she’s learnt to survive.
She has not hesitated to do what she thinks is right to protect her home the same way she did not in the Battle of the Bastards. And if it means playing the game behind Jon’s back… well. This is who she is. A player of the game, who knows all too well what happens if you fight with honour.
Arya turning down being a wife at a castle, because this really is not who she is.
The Hound and Arya marching to KL to finish business. Because Arya is capable of love, but, from the very start, has never been one to settle down. And this has not changed yet. As she said to Ned in s1, that is not her. As she said to Nymeria, that is not her.
Guys. This was an episode loyal to character development. It was not fan service. It was nothing like episode 2/3. And I liked it. Because these arcs make sense, even if they are painful. And we cannot blame GOT for being this show, because we did not love it for bringing our ships together or for being nice to our favs or anything like that. We loved it for being realistic and painful and complex. And that’s what this episode was, and I loved it for it.
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S08E04/5= Daenerys’s Battle of the Bastards?
Just realized that the way this is set up seems to parallel Jon’s BoB back in season 6? We have:
Ramsay -> Cersei
Missandei -> Rickon
Tyrion -> Sansa
Daenerys -> Jon
Jon/Northmen -> Littlefinger/Knights of the Vale
Winterfell -> King’s Landing
They’ve got the same parlay/standoff set up, someone dies, battle begins. I guess this time Dany will withdraw before attacking for good.
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Nikolaj’s acting was brilliant here
you can see the utter pain in Jaime’s eyes for upsetting Brienne so deeply, and you can see that he so desperately wants to say something and to show her that he doesn’t want to hurt her, rather save her.
But Jaime isn’t built like that, and so his expression goes from full of grief to emotionless in a split second because he can’t risk her seeing how much she means to him, how much he loves her and wants to stay with her in fear of her tempting him to stay, or worse, going with him.
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citruspeel · 5 years
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Sansa to Daenerys: if you leave now you’ll be making a mistake
5 minutes later: *rhaegal dies* *missandei gets killed* *daenerys’ fleet is destroyed*
Sansa:
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