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Cassandra, come on! I need your help!

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Why don’t Elsa and Anna argue?

I’ve noticed pretty much a lof of people complain about them not arguing “like sisters do” and I thought that it was in some way a good question, even if it was born by people who just wanted drama (as if it wasn’t already enough in that movie XD). 

But the reason they don’t actually argue, is because THEY AVOID IT. Notice there was a few times when Elsa and Anna were about to argue, like when Elsa confessed Anna she has been hearing voices and she didn’t tell her, or the “Don’t follow/run into fire” time. All of those times, they simply just start softening their tone when it goes too loud. 

Exhibit A:

Elsa: what were you thinking? You could have been killed! You can’t just follow me into fire!

Anna: then don’t run into fire!

Anna: …. (here it is, she stops before letting herself follow the previous kind of line, and then goes with….)

Anna: (softer tone) you’re not being careful, Elsa.

Elsa: … (might be still thinking about how Anna could have died if she hadn’t spot Anna between the flames, but instead thanks to Anna’s line she ends up with the think of it’s her fault Anna got exposed to that danger because she just wanted to help oh, yeah? how, Anna, HOW?)

Elsa: (sighs) I’m sorry.

Anyway, I believe I know the reason, or to be precise, the reasons why does that happen. 

Elsa and Anna just want to avoid something that could separate them and after all the time separated, that’s just not an option for them.

They are both a bunch of sweet rays of sunshine who don’t want negativity on their lives.

 They have probably talked about this stuff and decided to put away anything that is not a candy-kingdom-like feeling on their relationship. 

Not any of them want to upset the other. Again, for all that happened when they were torn appart as childs.

And the cherry on top of why they don’t argue: Last time things got out of control, this is what happened. 

Clearly Elsa doesn’t want that to happen again. 

If you ask me, I think this wasn’t exactly a healthy solution. After all, to avoid these things, Elsa, who said there wouldn’t be more secrets, kept secrets (”I’m not where I’m meant to be”), who would upset Anna if were told. Counterproductive, to define it. It all looked perfect for Anna, but when the time came, things started to cramble until it all fell down and Anna reached the bottom (Next Right Thing), and had to find a another way out both literal and allegorically. 

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Also, this is the exact reason Elsa didn’t barely say anything before pushing Anna and Olaf away! 

Elsa wanted Anna to be safe, and she knew Anna would have died if she had go with Elsa through the Dark Sea, or both would had died. “The Dark Sea is too dangerous for us both” was all her explanation to not allowing Anna to go with her. Elsa didn’t extend her point of view, or else she would have had to say something that would be a polite version of “you would be a drag” or even could have ended pointing out that Anna has been keeping Elsa from doing things out of her worry and that should be over so what was coming next was done. And since Elsa didn’t actually want to say mean things to Anna, and Anna exposed quite clear her point of wanting to keep Elsa away from danger, so it would have been pointless for Elsa to try to convince her, she did what she did.

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Sad News

I received the heartbreaking news this morning that my good friend Sue, @grrlgeek72, has passed away.  I’m still processing this, but I know she had many many friends in the Frozen fandom and I wanted to let you all know.

Sue was an incredibly accomplished individual, a woman who was groundbreaking in her achievements.  Despite being a self-proclaimed ‘salty old lady,’ she had one of the biggest hearts of anyone I’ve every known.  She was smart, funny, loving, kind, and generous to a fault.

I love you, Sue, and I will miss you terribly.  I’ll miss your humor, your wisdom, your inspiration, and your ability to generate copious amounts of Reader’s Tears.  Most of all, I will miss your generous heart and your larger-than-life presence.

Raising a glass to you, my friend.  Godspeed on this next adventure.

–Jae

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YESSSSS

Y’ALL WE MADE IT!!!! 

FROZEN 2 HAS BEATEN FROZEN 1!!!

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Things I need from F3: Anna in a ponytail with a sword. That’s it.

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It’s a family thing

Wait, what do you mean this never happened? Anyway, I’m glad Kristoff has a boyfriend now.

Enjoy, patronustrip

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People complain about how many plot holes Frozen 2 has, and while I agree, some of them actually can be explained easily if you have enough imagination because you just need to have realistic headcanons.

Why do Elsa and Anna instantly recognize their young father on the ice statue and not their mother? Because they have no idea what their mother looked like a as a kid. Agnarr, however, surely has several paintings of him representing him as a child being exposed in the castle and that the girls could have seen during years. 

Why was Iduna hiding from everyone that she was a Northuldra? Because she now lived in Arendelle, and the Prince aka the highest rank just had brought the news that the Northuldra had attacked them and killed his grandfather. If she had revealed her identity, she would have been sentenced to death in no time. She surely pretended to be a random foreigner and it worked. 

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Attachment Styles of Frozen

I wanted to discuss something I noticed after watching Frozen 2, that is also present in the first Frozen. I wanted to talk about the attachment styles of the sisters Anna and Elsa.

In a very clear cut way, Anna has a preoccupation (anxious) attachment style, and Elsa has a dismissive (avoidant) attachment style.

The simple imagery for this is that an avoidant person runs while a dependent person chases them, and this is pretty true for any relationship with these mixes. Sound familiar?

Elsa seems to have a dismissive (or avoidant) attachment style.

She is emotionally distant, and despite being closer to Anna now than she was in Frozen 1, she still rejects intimate relationships by keeping them a “safe” distance away or at arms length.

She does not want to depend on a partner, and is afraid to allow for a partner to lean on her. She often tries to prevent Anna from following her, and literally sends her away so that she may have this independence. She loves Anna, but she isn’t comfortable with having Anna come with her, depending on her.

Elsa is seen as someone who uses communication as a means to exchange intellectual ideas, rather than talk about emotions. Remember when she rained on Anna’s parade by telling her that she couldn’t marry a man she just met? (She was right, but she was very cold about it). She avoids conflict up until she reaches a point to explode. Elsa is cool, controlled, stoic, and self-sufficient. She is someone who limits her emotional range and prefers to do things alone. Elsa is also head strong, and so long as she’s not dealing with her own emotions, she’s pretty good in a crisis and will take charge.

What do you expect from a child whose parents were non responsive to her needs? They were disengaged and detached from an entire part of Elsa, telling her to conceal and hide parts of herself that were so obviously inseparable to her identity.

Anna has a preoccupied (or anxious) attachment style.

She seems to be insecure about her relationship with Elsa, and she’s worried that Elsa may reject or abandon her again, and she finds herself preoccupied with this relationship (Notice that this preoccupation even makes Kristoff feel forgotten at times). She often needs ongoing reassurance from Elsa that they will do things together (which is already rooted in conflict given what we know about Elsa). Anna’s underlying fear of loosing Elsa stems from her loosing her parents. Anna is overly sensitive to Elsa’s actions, her moods, and her choices. She was mad at Elsa for running into the fire (something Elsa could handle alone) because it implied that Elsa is ok with Anna not following her, and that scares her.

Anna is the opposite of Elsa in that she is highly emotional, and very expressive. When Elsa is reserved and closed off, Anna is vulnerable and taking up space.

Anna wants to blame Elsa for her distance, she has done so since they were young. (Asking Elsa "why do you shut the world out? What are you so afraid of?"). She is unaware that sometimes she may push her away with her own expectations, for example, telling Elsa (a magical being) to not go where Anna can’t follow. Anna is terrified of being alone, and places the expectation of Elsa always being there for her as she is always there for Elsa.

What do you expect from a child who was separated from all of her loved ones? After the incident with Anna getting struck in the head by Elsa’s powers, she was always viewed as too vulnerable to be trusted with Elsa, and was left dependent on the relationships of those around her. Which makes her desperate for love and affection.

So what’s so beautiful about the resolution of Frozen 2?

For Elsa to overcome her insecurities, she had to listen to a voice outside of herself. She had to learn to trust and follow something outside of herself. In doing so, she realized how much she needs Anna. That she can’t live in complete isolation, and that she does need other people: specifically her sister.

For Anna to overcome her insecurities, she had to listen to a voice inside herself. Once Olaf had faded away and she assumed Elsa was as good as dead, Anna has to learn to trust and follow something inside herself. In doing so, she realized that she does not have to be so dependent on Elsa. That she is her own person, and that she can’t live in complete dependency of another person. She needs to give people appropriate space and boundaries, and know that people still love her: specifically her sister.

They are coming together to be that bridge, and meeting each other in the middle to have some inner peace.

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Kristoff: So what is it like dating Elsa?

Honeymaren: Once, I asked her for water while she was angry at me. She just made some ice cubes and said “Wait.”

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Anna had a good point.

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Man, I still cannot get over how mature Frozen 2 was. Like, sure, it’s still ostensibly a family film that all ages can enjoy, but I think this is the first time I’ve seen a Disney animated movie that was willing to target the adults in its audience more than the kids. The songs are far less traditional catchy Disney sing-along fare, more classic musical theater storytelling character pieces with weird and experimental tonal choices. It abandons the use of fairy tale language and symbols that the first movie used (no mention of true love’s kiss, royal balls, princess-y stuff) in favor of something far more akin to a mythology-inspired RPG adventure. A massive chunk of the storytelling and themes is communicated in subtext and metaphor, especially with Elsa’s big song in the third act. And so much of the drama revolves around feelings that are… far more difficult, complex, and adult-oriented than kids’ movies usually tackle. Self-actualization by way of coming to terms with your past trauma, siblings who love each other yet find their lives drawn in different directions, struggling to do the right thing when you don’t even know what the right thing is anymore, heck, even Olaf’s comic existential crisis; these aren’t the kinds of emotional struggles kids can relate to as easily as teenagers and grown-ups can.

And that’s entirely intentional. Because in case Olaf’s blatant fourth-wall break in his and Anna’s opening song didn’t tip you off (”And you’ve gotten older too,” he says, speaking directly to the audience), Frozen 2 isn’t really for the kids of today that saw the first film after the fact. It’s for the kids of six years ago who first fell in love Anna and Elsa. Or, more accurately, it’s for the teenagers and young adults those kids grew up into. It takes us back to the site of one of our favorite childhood memories and dares to let those memories, ironically, unfreeze. Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, and all the rest have grown up right along with us, and just as our worries and concerns have changed from when we first saw Frozen as kids, their struggles have grown in scope and complexity as well. If the first Frozen was about as perfect a fairy tale for kids as you could get, then Frozen 2 is about exploring what happens after the fairy tale is over and the lessons you learned from it are no longer enough to contend with an increasingly complicated world. So it’s able to be bolder, and less constrained, and go in more sprawling, yet also more intimate directions, and the songs get to do cooler musical things that aren’t as immediately hummable but are so freaking emotionally powerful, and the emotional journeys everyone goes through are able to speak to the grown-ups we’re slowly becoming instead of just the kids we once were, and cripes, can you imagine anything like “Show Yourself” in the first movie? There’s no way! That song is just too, well, adult in its vision of self-acceptance and discovering meaning to work in a fairy tale context. That song could only make sense once the fairy tale started to grow up.

I could honestly go on and on about how much I flipping love this, but I’ve rambled on long enough. TLDR, Frozen 2 matures the themes of the first movie in truly fascinating ways, and it makes for the first Disney Princess movie I’ve seen that might be better at speaking to adults than kids. Feel free to add any of your own insights to this post; I’d love to know what parts of Frozen 2 really touched you in this way!

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Chapters: 8/?

Fandom: Frozen (2013)

Relationships: Anna/Elsa (Frozen)

Characters: Anna (Frozen), Elsa (Frozen)

Additional Tags: Reincarnation, Alternate Universe - Modern Setting, Angst, Canon Compliant, Post-Canon

Summary: Elsa looks at Anna, asleep in her arms, and she knows then that she would follow Anna unquestioningly to the ends of the Earth, across lifetimes, over centuries. 

Or: In 2019, Anna Andersen runs away from her wedding and stumbles upon a mysterious blonde stranger who seems to know her a little too well. [reincarnation AU]

told yall i might have an update tonight and…here we are yay! hoping the next chapter will also be written as fast as this one was and that ch. 9 will come within a week or so

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You know, I’m really impressed that in Frozen II Elsa returns to her dysfunctional behavior when under pressure. That’s a surprisingly mature approach to her issues and I actually expected her to be our happy perfect Disney queen in the sequel, but nope, she still tends to solve problems on her own, pushes people away and isolates herself when faced with stressful situations.

While watching it felt so true and real because yes, it’s actually not that easy to change yourself after only three years of happiness when you‘ve dealt with grief, fear and isolation most of your life. It made me realize once again that it’s okay to take your time, sometimes have no progress at all or even take a few steps back - I mean, look! Even Elsa, the gorgeous, talented, intelligent, infamous queen with inhuman abilities struggles with getting better!

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i don’t begrudge people leaving negative comments on my fic but this exchange cracked me up 

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You and your bullshit "Fifth Spirit" nonsense are hilarious lmfao. There's no way Elsa and Anna can be both because Anna is human and she acknowledged Elsa as the fifth spirit at the very end of the movie. Did you even pay attention? Elsa renounced her title as queen and Anna cannot be the fifth spirit because she's the queen of Arendelle. I know you're a popular blog but please stop writing deceiving posts.

Hi! 😊I watched the movie five times since the day it was released so I think I caught a few scenes here and there. So maybe I’m qualified to answer your questions? 

Okay, the whole “Fifth Spirit” post I made was not an idea I came up with. Jennifer Lee (one of the directors and the writer of the movie) said that she thinks Elsa and Anna are both the Fifth Spirit. You can find the interview here (please click that link) and you can actually hear her say that. I didn’t make it up, I was just adding my opinions to expand that idea. I personally don’t think that it’s impossible for Anna to be the Fifth Spirit as well. She’s actually marketed as a “Forest Spirit” in some merch. Maybe it’s not just Elsa. Maybe it’s Anna, too. take a look at this pic: 

And a “spirit” does not necessarily mean that you have to be a deity or some sort of immortal :) You said “Anna is human” and she can’t be the Fifth Spirit because of that. But Elsa is also human? They were born from the same parents? I’m sure you already know that from the first movie as well. 

Elsa said that their mother had two daughters (her and Anna, obviously) and that a bridge has two sides. One protecting Arendelle and the other protecting Northuldra. It’s Elsa and Anna’s love, loyalty, and sacrifices that pacified the spirits, therefore bringing peace to both lands.

Elsa is the Fifth Spirit, and Anna is not the Sixth Spirit or something because that eradicates the part of their story where they saved both lands together. They didn’t do that in separate events or objectives. 

I think that’s what Jenn Lee meant. Elsa and Anna saved Arendelle and Northuldra together. They’re both the missing pieces that make up the last spirit. And to me, it makes sense because they’re both Iduna and Agdar’s children. 

Elsa and Anna are both Arendellian and Northuldra by blood. I didn’t make that up, that’s part of Frozen 2! :) 

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We need a Frozen prequel about them ASAP