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This fanfic was so good, aside from the wonderful peek into Saruman's psyche, I never expected I'd see a fic exploring Gríma's dynamic with him as well

I found such a wonderful fanfic today it is all about

saruman

no joke: I have been waiting & hoping for someone to write something like this and it's really really good:

Two Thousand Years of Hubris

Rimeson Gen, rated for general audiences, Words: 12,469

Author's Summary:

His intentions were pure when he came to Middle-earth. But two thousand years of being refused the respect you clearly deserve would drive anyone mad, wouldn't it? How did everything go so wrong for Saruman?

psst: Gríma Wormtongue is here too (●__●)

Read it now! Immediately!

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I don't know shit about the silmarillion or how accurate the rings of power show is to the Tolkien books in general but the choice that whoever made for Gandalf's backstory to be what it was in the show is so??? Incredibly on brand and so heartwarming? Like I too would be so profoundly fond and protective of hobbits if the first person that ever stood up for me in such a vulnerable state of my life was this teeny tiny big footed starry eyed brave hearted little person I too would have hope for the future of my entire world if I went through horrible hardships with some of the nicest most honorable people to grace this earth I too would get absolutely bing bang blasted with these plastered party animals and show up to every event with my magic fireworks the fact the Gandalf didn't give into his very clear grandfather instincts and stay in the shire full time and babysit everyone's little ones is a testament to how strong of a person he is

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Saruman Redemption Thoughts:

(Thanks @janepixx for the comment)

I think the key first step is to remove the one person he still has power over i.e. Grima. As long as there’s someone below him he still has a semblance of control, which needs to be stripped away. Whether Grima would actually leave of his own volition is a separate question

I think if Treebeard hadn’t let him slink away out of Orthanc he might have stood a chance of making Saruman regret his path, they used to talk a lot when the Istari were first wandering Middle Earth, though it’s implied this was more of a one-way information-gathering than a conversation, so they could hark back to those earlier days. I think Saruman is proud enough that you would have to appeal to the fact that he did have power before his turn to Sauron, a more organic power based on respect that was earned rather than racketeered. I think you’d eventually get the message across that he was more powerful giving advice and guarding from harm than he ever was fielding armies as yet another disposable tool of a dark lord who doesn’t really care about you beyond your material use - which may be a difficult mindset to crack given his education by Aulë.

The plain fact is I don’t think Saruman can cope with thankless tasks. He thinks the orcs have affection for him, he’s jealous of Gandalf’s influence in the shire and privately trying to figure out what’s so good about it (importing pipeweed), and wants to be seen advising the high and mighty. If you drop him down too many pegs it won’t end in redemption via humiliation, it will just end in resentment.

So I think you’d have to turn him to small tasks, in his mind, that are nonetheless praiseworthy. Show him that the more intricate, more impressive, more powerful things that he can conjure are worth less than the ones that help people. I think a Saruman that turned his enormous intellect to the small victories of growing things, agriculture and irrigation and architecture, would emerge a very different person far less likely to repeat his mistakes than any threat or humiliation could have made him

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Suuure, Saruman, let’s go with that.

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A Mind of Metal and Wheels

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"Let us go together, my dear Consort eternal."

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Storm

Summary: For the lovely @ladylouoflothlorien who requested this, I hope you enjoy! A/N and timeline for this story is below the story. Reader is an elf child from Celebrian’s escort travelling from Imladris to Lothlorien in TA 2509. For context, Osgiliath was lost in TA 2475. Quote in italics from Unfinished Tales, JRR Tolkien.

Hi hon, could I please request something with Saruman & Reader where the reader was rescued by him as a child and has been raised by him. Something a little angsty where they’re watching his descent into madness and serving the dark lord. Maybe he tries to hide what’s going on from them but they were raised smart and it’s not exactly difficult to figure out. I think this definitely calls for some(?) angst but as for where the loyalties and morality of the reader lie by the end of it is completely up to you. I just saw you were interested in writing for Saruman and this popped into my head, which is strange because I haven’t written anything like this before!!

Words: 1380

From his window in Orthanc, Saruman watched with calculated interest as a lone figure rode hard, out of the safety of Isengard, shrinking and disappearing altogether as they turned behind the feet of the mountains. It was for the north that they rode, onwards toward Imladris and Doriath, seeking Radaghast with his message, and in time they would return, bearing news to him from distant lands. Something about the child had changed irrevocably and though they tried to conceal from him its nature, he could sense their mind had altered from the course that he had set it on. Even the firm persuasion of his voice could not fully ease their troubles.

Making fully sure they were out of view, he sat smoking in thoughtful silence within the privacy of his chambers. Never before had he reason to doubt their will or their capability ere the shadow of Sauron had taken up his mantle in Barad Dur. Yet now, his faith in them wavered for he saw within them a growing doubt, no more than a flicker, but what he was sure would in time grow to a fire that would consume them both. This he feared beyond all else and though he knew it was wise to dispose of them, his heart refused and reminded him of a simpler time, if ever there was one.

Keep reading

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The Lord of the Rings trilogy The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) The Two Towers (2002) Return of the King (2003)

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Can I just say how much I enjoy that almost everyone in Lord of the Rings is an adult. Like a grown ass adult. I do realize the hobbits are relatively young for their species, but there’s no chosen one teenagers, they’re not a group of random twenty something’s who also happen to somehow be geniuses, no childlike drama or super honed abilities that have somehow only been developed before high school. Just a bunch of old, weary adults getting shit done, honing their craft after years and years and being badass regardless of age.

Editing for the new folks reblogging: Pippin is the exception this. I mentioned the hobbits are young for their species, with Pippin being the youngest. Still, the main idea is that overall, this isn’t a YA novel with all twenty-something protagonists.

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I looked then and saw that his robes, which had seemed white, were not so, but were woven of all colours. and if he moved they shimmered and changed hue so that the eye was bewildered.

“I liked white better,” I said.

I’m sure this is exactly how Tolkein imagined this scene while writing.

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Every time I read or watch Lord of the Rings I can’t help but think about how Tolkien had survived one of the bloodiest, most cruel, most dirtiest and darkest wars in human history, came back and wrote this:

“The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater.”

And this:

"'I wish it need not have happened in my time,' said Frodo.

'So do I,' said Gandalf, 'and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.'"

And this:

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."

And this:

“Many that live deserve death and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be so eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the wise cannot see all ends."

And this:

“True courage is about knowing not when to take a life, but when to spare one.”

And clearly they were all written partly because he survived the war, because of what he’d seen and done and learned. But at the same time the unwillingness to lose faith, the courage and strength that this man had to believe in these things after going through hell! It makes the nihilists look so cheap, so uninteresting! People who’ve went through concentration camps and wars believe in humanity anyway, isn’t that proof that hope and love exist? And many, many, many of them did not return or returned broken and cruel and traumatised to the point when no faith in others was possible for them, and nobody can blame them. But there were many who refused to lose faith and hope. They have seen some of the worst that life has to offer and came back believing that we shouldn’t be eager to deal out death in judgement and should love only that which the sword defends.

No matter how many people say that humanity is horrible and undeserving of love, and life is dark and worthless, and love doesn’t exist I remember this and have hope anyway. Because there were people who have actually had all reason to believe in the worst and still believed in the good, so the good must be real. The good is real, even despite the evil, and we must trust in it.

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When are we gonna talk about this specific scene in Dos Orugitas?

Abuela: "Ive never been able to come back here. This river...is where we were, given our miracle."

Mirabel: "Where...Abuelo Pedro....?:

This entire scene, Dos Orugitas, is so powerful all together, but the RIVER. The river is so important to the context of their family and the theme of generational trauma.

At this point we all know what Abuela's trauma is and how it affected everyone in the family, hence "generational trauma" part of the story.

Abuela Alma, while holding her 3 newborn babies, watched the love of her life be slaughtered right in front of her eyes in that river that night.

At the very beginning of the movie we can see that Abuelo Pedro was standing in the river when he was murdered.

Once again, like we have already seen, Abuela put her own feelings about her trauma aside, and puts on a brave face to comfort Mirabel. But like she says to Mirabel, she had never been able to come back to that river herself, she was only there for Mirabel.

Finding Mirabel sitting at the river, the same place her husband was brutally murdered, must have been very triggering and painful. She was staring at the very spot she watched her husband be murdered.

But here's what's interesting about how the scene continues.

While Dos Orugitas plays, the story of what happened to Abuelo Pedro is shown in detail (at least more detail then when Abuela tells the story at the beginning)

We see Mirabel observing the scene for herself, implying that Abuela is telling the story to Mirabel in great detail, and Mirabel is finally understanding the pain Abuela experienced in that very spot.

Abuela then apologizes saying, "I am so sorry. You never hurt our family Mirabel. We are broken, because of me"

Now, after understanding why Abuela acted the way she did towards everyone, seeing the pain she is still holding on to after all those years, Mirabel looks out and sees:

The scene from Bruno's vision.

At first she didn't know where that scene was, but it was when she looked out into the river that she saw what the vision was showing.

Now in Bruno's vision it was very unclear who Mirabel was meant to hug in order to save the miracle for a long time, and it ended up being Isabela. BUT, Bruno's vision had two different outcomes, one when Casita fell down, and one where Casita didn't. How I'm choosing to interpret this is that, in the outcome where Casita didn't fall Mirabel would have to hug Isabela, which is what the vision ended up choosing to display, but in the outcome where Casita did fall, Mirabel would have to hug someone else, which is why the vision was so confusing for Bruno.

Now Casita obviously fell, which means the only way the miracle would be saved is if Mirabel hugged someone else. And because of that scene in Bruno's vision, Mirabel realized:

It was Abuela she needed to help

This is exactly why I think its a bunch of bs when people claim that Abuela was "forgiven too easily"

Mirabel saw Abuela's silent suffering, she saw how much pain was still in her heart from what happened that night, and how much trauma Abuela experienced. She understood why Abuela acted the way she did, and instead of getting angry, Mirabel sees that she is meant to help Abuela, and in turn, help everyone else.

THIS!!! ^^^^^^^^^ THIS VERY SCENE RIGHT HERE!!! THIS IS SO INSANELY IMPORTANT!!!!

This river was the place where the most traumatic thing that ever happened to any of them occurred. The source of the family's generational trauma took place at this river. And Abuela herself admitted that ever since that night, she had never been able to go back.

Abuela had to cross the river too, to flee from the bandits (or whoever they are)

But after she saw Pedro be murdered, she never stepped foot in that river again.

BUT MIRABEL LED HER INTO THE RIVER, HOLDING HER HANDS, GUIDING HER BACK THROUGH THE RIVER LIKE PEDRO DID.

Mirabel understanding Abuela's trauma, and Abuela finally going back into the river after 50 years, you wanna know what this scene is symbolizing????

THEIR HEALING

THIS RIGHT HERE, IS THE START OF THEIR HEALING FROM THEIR TRAUMA, ESPECIALLY ABUELA

After 50 years, Abuela was not only able to go back to see the river, but go into the river. WITH THE HELP OF MIRABEL.

Together, they walk into the river, finally understanding one another, and they both decide together that their healing starts HERE. The rest of the family can't heal before Abuela can heal, and Mirabel UNDERSTANDS THIS. So what does she do????? SHE HELPS ABUELA HEAL.

This entire scene is so important in understanding the entire movie, but the DAMN RIVER IS WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME.

I didn't get why they had to walk into the river in order for this scene to continue, but then it HIT ME LIKE A BUS.

Casita being rebuilt symbolizes the family healing as a whole, but the river symbolizes Abuela's trauma. Therefore, walking into the river symbolizes addressing and HEALING from that trauma.

God this movie is so beautiful and powerful and important.

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thank you for being a friend 🍰

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Found these screenshots on pinterest and couldn't help but to draw them.

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Whoopsiedoodles I forgot to post them :0!!,!

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