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Forced to work literally 24/7 but born to write fanfiction that I never have time for anymore
Heartbroken
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are you real?
did you actually write force of gravity?
I did!
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I sadly had to take a pause on writing my fic😔😔 I have another writing job I need to finish and it’s snapping up my time—
But I’ll always come back to her, knowing I wrote Mike Wheeler based on the song Haunted by Taylor Swift
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When I see anyone who’s not a fanfic writer criticizing what fanfic writers do I roll my eyes out of support for my culture. Write your own story then, SORRY.
Fanfiction is an insane land, stop trying to make it fit into a box that you like, let her fly and be free
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Just saw something Mike/El on my fyp and closed up the whole app. Don’t violate my rights like that EVER again
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hii! i wanna say that i love your work and was wondering if you are planning on updating the cemetery dance anytime soon?
PLS DONT FEEL RUSHED IM JUST REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!
but yeah i hope you have a very very very good day/afternoon/night <3
Hopefully soon!! I don’t know what’s taking me so long honestly I should probably lock in lol. Thank you for asking! It’s definitely given me a reminder I appreciate it❤️
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If I can’t make a byler edit to “Wait for Me” from Hadestown after season 5, I will be sending a strongly worded email I swear it
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“Can’t two guys just be friends—“
Not if I have anything to say about it
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Hey! 😊
I hope you're doing well.
II’m reaching out with something really close to my heart. A dear friend and his family are going through an incredibly hard time.
They urgently need support, and even the smallest act of kindness — a share or donation — could make a life changing difference.
This is about compassion, about standing by each other when it matters most. 💛
Thank you so much for taking a moment to care 🙏
@adamallii87
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Just saw a post that said em dashes are a giveaway of AI writing or something? Please no!! It’s my favorite one to use! It’s so satisfying to look at, I love them!! I’m using them in a hot way i promise!
(Is it always correctly used? No, but I still will use them everywhere)
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Real
Everyone in the Byers family is beautiful. Wanna debate me on that? Yeah you can’t that’s what I THOUGHT
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I think writing fanfic is such an amazing way to learn, sometimes gain input from others, and grow comfortable having your writing be out and about.
When I wrote Force of Gravity, I had just started in classes and stuff, but it taught me a lot about what I like about my own way of storytelling and what I’d like to improve on.
I never thought anyone would actually read that fanfic, I was extremely shocked to see the traction it received. I still am so so grateful for all the people that enjoyed it or gave it a shot, it’s such an honor to be able to make anything that others take time out of their day to enjoy. Of course there was a point where some people got really mean, but it’s totally okay! Not everyone likes the same things and that’s what makes us all different and allows so many different creators to show their work and be appreciated for it.
Anyways, what I’m saying is, if you’re wanting to write stories or get into writing, fanfiction is an amazing way to start. Write whatever you want, do whatever you want with the characters, because you never know what you might learn!!
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You’re not crazy for pointing out extremely visible storytelling just cause it doesn’t mesh into straightness, just a reminder in case anyone needed it!
People have acted like queer people are odd, stupid, or delusional forever. Their inability to notice queerness doesn’t make you stupid.
The arguments against byler are weak and locked into the fact that straight people get everything they want. That’s literally it!
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Wanted to point out that Mike pulled away all his friends, but it only lasted until s4 with Will, he just specifically was trying to push Will away but not quite letting him go, like "I have a girlfriend, okay?" This phrase is like
Mike was always looking for Will, and he found El, but he kept looking for Will in El, and as he couldn't find him, he started to push the real one away just to forget it, but he couldn't
Such an interesting point! Yes, Mike most definitely pulled away from all his friends, but it is so interesting to note the emphasis on Mike and Will’s friendship.
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Im not a byler, just a casual viewer. What I thought waa weird is that Mike decided to become so close with the boy who was allegedly gay and the whole town knew, as we can see in s1, Mike knows that, we can see in s3. So why did he choose to be so close to him and treat him like that. My theory is that Mike KNOWS that wasn't just a friendship, it's not a debate, he knew, why would he say "we're friends we're friends"?
So, I’m not 100% sure I’m grasping exactly what you’re saying—but Mike and Will have been best friends since they were about 5 years old, that’s stated to us in season 2. So their friendship started prior to, I’m sure, most of the allegations tossed at Will.
Though Joyce does state as well in season 1 that Lonnie would call Will, “a queer.”
At this point the evidence being used that Will is gay is his sensitivity, kindness, and lean towards the arts rather than sports. Pretty base line homophobia used in the 80s, and sometimes still today.
We don’t actually know what Mike knows about Will, we can make a few inferences about it, but there’s no verbal confirmation that he either thinks or knows Will is gay.
The line, “it’s not my fault you don’t like girls.” Has a lot of depth to it, as an audience we know now that Will is gay, but the intention Mike had with that line is still up in the air and also, with most heavy hitting lines like those, it most likely has a double meaning. Could he be just calling Will gay? Possibly, I don’t necessarily believe that’s the case, but it’s always possible.
It’s important to take notice to the behaviors Will and Mike have towards one another. There’s a consistency with how Will acts with Mike, he keeps it strictly friendship based. Again, they’ve been best friends their entire lives. In season 4 we see Mike exhibiting odd behavior towards Will, not vice versa, so it begs the question of, what is Mike actually feeling?
“We’re friends, we’re friends.” Is a very common writing trope towards characters with romance laced in their relationship. When something like that is verbalized, it’s a flag for us to question why. Will isn’t insinuating that they’re more than friends, his argument is purely based in the fact that Mike is acting off with him and he doesn’t know why.
So the line is extremely strange and gives us a glimpse into the mess being crafted in Mike’s mind. In the beginning El points out Will has been weird because of a crush, but the character who exhibits strange behavior throughout the season, or at least the beginning half, isn’t Will, it’s Mike. That’s, I believe, a deliberate writing choice to make our brain ping to question what might be going on.
It’s always important to understand all these hints are woven in to tell us a specific story. Dialogue usually has hidden meaning behind it, a lot is being said without it being actually verbalized.
I do not think Mike is aware of Will’s sexuality at this moment in time. I could be wrong, but alot of the hints in season one were a show at the homophobia of the time to allow us to gain information on Will as a character since he more so “haunts” the narrative in that season—but also to lock an idea in our head early on that they solidify later in the season. Which is, that Will is gay. So again, nothing wrong with different interpretations here.
Also, we now know Will is gay and there’s another character that mirrors, or even more so demonstrates, the actions that are now evidence to prove he’s gay. We also know he has feelings for Mike, so their interactions need dissection and once again, Mike heavily mirrors Will’s behavior that is now deemed romantic on Will’s part. So we can, with a good amount of confidence, say Mike’s actions were also romantic. Very possible I’m wrong, that’s just my understanding of the text at this time.
So ya know, it’s hard to say anything for sure, the story isn’t over so many things can be interpreted, nothing is wrong with interpreting the writing in whatever way you desire or deem the most substantia. This is just my view on it, I think Mike is a big question mark at this point in time, but it’s all very interesting to dissect.
I hope this was clear!! Super sorry if I didn’t get the question right or misunderstood. Have an amazing day!!!
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Dialogue
So I don’t claim to be any sort of professional. I only study literature, so my knowledgeable on cinema isn’t vast by any means. I’m still in writing courses, learning, etc. but with that being said I have been writing for about six years now, so hopefully (big hopefully) I know some things by now. If not I’d be in some trouble lmao.
The structure of writing, specifically relationship wise, that the show follows is pretty simple.
A fan base as large as Stranger Things will definitely bring up some frustrations. As fun as shows are to just watch, when analyzing them, it’s very important to keep in mind that these characters are not real. They serve a specific purpose to move the story in a certain direction.
So, when talking about Mike Wheeler for example, there’s a lot of discourse about his behavior. Some saying, “oh he’s just a teenager and his parents don’t say I love you so he doesn’t know how.”
So Mike isn’t allowed to just do things without it being necessary for the story. He’s crafted perfectly with every piece of dialogue, face expression, action, to tell us a specific story.
Analyzing writing is kind of like dissecting a crime. You ask yourself, “okay, can I prove this to be true?” There’s a mystery to crack that needs evidence and supporting claims to make what a character is saying, and doing, plausible.
When a writer wants to lie to you, they use dialogue to do so.
That’s not just my opinion, thats kinda how it’s done 9 times out of 10. That’s even fact in everyday life. Actions speak louder than words they say.
So, Mike is super interesting, but we know some things about him based on what we’re being shown, not told. Season 2 gives us a lot of evidence about when we can trust him. Whether you like it or not, we see Mike the most vulnerable with Will. At this point I’m not attempting to argue whether it’s romantic or not, this is just what we’re being shown. Will and Mike have a tight relationship, they’ve been best friends since they were five years old.
A huge flag to note here is that they’re honest with each other, they tell eachother things they don’t tell other characters. Sometimes in writing you do this to kind of establish a base, you want your audience to be able to go back and know when they can trust a characters words, especially a rather aloof character like Mike Wheeler. While he’s a chatter box, he very rarely speaks with vulnerability.
He tends to spout things out before thinking, we know when he’s doing this based on the pitch of his voice, the harshness in it that follows, and the acting choices that clearly show us the speaking before thinking attitude he tends to have.
Mike’s words punch most of the time, you can kind of catch a rhythm in them if you pay close enough attention. Unlike a character like Will or Lucas who’s way of speaking is pretty structured and keeps the same rhythm with whomever they’re speaking to. Will and Lucas are pretty sensitive, open characters, that lean more towards vulnerability rather than defensiveness most of the time, not always, but consistently.
Mike is the opposite, so when we joke about his “Will voice” it’s actually super interesting because there is such an obvious shift. He softens, and listens, and his tone is considerably more breathless than it normally is. Besides their arguments, he takes his words slow and they’re visibly thought out.
We see him use this voice in season 4 with El and Will, but there’s an important difference in these conversations. Mike goes into his conversation with El with the audible intention to be kind and listen, but he ends it with that same cutting tone he tends to carry. He gets defensive quickly, his face morphs back into that pinch it carry’s, and he strays from authenticity towards a surface level comfort like blaming others and calling her a superhero, which distracts from the original point which was El asking him if he loved her.
Side note, there’s a few key words used in Stranger Things with a sort of “piñata” effect.
Crazy=love (most of the time)
Superhero=bad, there is a not a good connection to this word in the eyes of El. We have evidence to back up this claim.
Then the scene with Will, we’re shown a similar beginning with a vastly different ending. Again, this isn’t necessarily about the couples here, it’s about Mike. Those two scenes are written to parallel eachother and tell us something specifically about his character.
I’m getting a bit off topic here, but what I’m attempting to note, is that Mike can be easy to read if you approach him like a character instead of a person.
So, Mike has some phenomenal dialogue. In season 2 he spends a lot of time with Will, he notices Will in ways no one else does, which makes Will trust him the most out of the people around him. Halloween night, we see Mike open up and be honest with Will and Vice versa. That scene is important for many reasons, but it very clearly establishes the honesty these two have with eachother, which we can use as evidence later on.
The shed monologue is beautiful, and it’s extremely important to analyze, especially in comparison to his monologue in season 4. Again, I’m not even bothering to claim romance or not, this is just clear writing choices I’ve seen.
So, these situations are extremely similar, but there’s a few key differences here.
Eye contact. Eye contact in emotional monologues is so so important, and almost crucial unless otherwise done correctly. We need that other characters reaction to see if we’re being told the truth or not. In the shed we get that reaction, even with Will being possessed, we see the breakthrough he has once Mike has spoken and the depth in his eyes. It’s very clear the effect Mike’s words have.
Also important here is the simplicity of this monologue, it’s riddled with subtext, but it stays on a single point. Mike isn’t jumping around naming a bunch of different things he likes about Will or why he cares about him. He sticks to one memory that he delivers with vulnerability and detail.
It’s just the moment he and Will met and what it meant to him. That’s it, that’s all he talks about. It’s simple and impactful and tells us something about their relationship.
We’ve seen the monologues that are like, “I love this about you and this and this blah blah.” While those are not always bad, they’re a clique and are usually used in sappy rom coms. Totally fine, but it doesn’t fit the flow of writing in Stranger Things.
Focusing on a specific moment is so powerful, because it displays its meaning to us as watchers, and shows us a truth about the character speaking. Jumping around to different points causes the dialogue to lose a bit of authenticity because it seems as if the character speaking is saying things more so for the other character rather than how they really feel. Of course this point can vary, it’s not black and white, but that’s what I’ve learned from writing, specifically when I’ve done script writing.
So we’ve seen Mike deliver a monologue already. It’s simple, it’s impactful, and it works.
Then we see him do it again in season 4. Now we already have evidence about him, whether the majority of people want to admit it or not, Mike is a fantastic talker. He’s a leader. He can be an asshole, sure, but he knows how to evoke something out of the other characters when need be.
He jumps around. He tells her he loved her since they met (a clique) and then describes what she was wearing (another clique) calls her a superhero, tells her he loves her and is scared of losing her and then screams at her to fight.
What do we know about superhero? Right it doesn’t have a good connotation in this show.
It’s dramatic and there’s an entire audience, El is being choked, Will is in the shot, Max is in the shot, it’s a whole ass mess. This is not an accident. We can claim it gave El the motivation to fight on, but can we? Right before she breaks lose her attention drifts to Max. This is HUGE and not done accidentally, it gives us doubt in our belief of what El is actually thinking. I’m not claiming Mike doesn’t care for her, of course he does, they all care for one another, but the oddness in the love confession shouldn’t be waved off OR used as solid evidence for El and Mike’s relationship.
Now getting into the romantic aspect, is that there is underlying meaning to the everything. Having Will stand right behind Mike in that scene should be very worrying for people who are rooting for Mike and El. His placement is extremely odd and strains our focus away from Mike and El.
Anyways, we’re shown 2 monologues from Mike and 1 from Will.
Will’s monologue is simple, focused, and stays on a specific point. He takes the painting and expands on it. To write a hard hitting monologue that’s what you want to do, you want to take a simple thing and blow it up, create meaning and detail. I’d never recommend just naming off a bunch of different things because it loses that simple, hard-hitting effect. It loses authenticity.
Mike’s shed monologue is simple, focused, and stays on one single memory.
In a monologue, especially love based, you want the scene to feel as if it has its own entity and is holding its breath right along with us. For that effect, you need the scene to be focused and, mostly, calm.
What do we know about Mike and Will based on evidence we’ve gathered? Correct, they’re vulnerable with eachother and, usually, honest. That’s why Will lying feels so huge and strange.
So Mike’s monologue to El…
What do we know about Mike and El?
They lie to eachother. You don’t have to like it, but that is an established theme with this relationship from the writers of the show.
Also Will’s push for Mike to give El this confession takes points away from its legitimacy.
Mike is also using Will’s veiled love confession to confess to El, at least parts of it.
It’s all just a big old mess, and from a writing standpoint, the fact that he made that love confession to El at all, is a huge huge red flag. I remember watching the second part of the 4th season and being so relieved when I saw that scene, because if Mike didn’t “fix” the issue he and El had and confess his love, doing the one thing El asked for, it would have carried into Season 5 and continued this plot for them.
But luckily for people who ship byler, it did not. A GOOD thing.
Obviously I’m biased, I like Will and Mike—but I also see the very clear story they’re trying to tell and that’s why I ship Will and Mike.
Again, not claiming to know everything, I guess I could be completely wrong, but this is just my views on it all.
Thanks to anyone who read all my spewing!!
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One thing about the ST fandom at large is the refusal to understand how writing works lmao
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