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No, actually, I think you have a point there. I mean, these traits are very subtle but very clear and specific at the same time. I think Toby wanted to draw attention to the main story itself and wanted the fans to work to know more, just like everything else in the game. If you just wanna play it and not care about her emotional depth and all, fine, but if you want to, read her dialogue and it's there. It's a subtle (very important) detail about >her character< and not the main story. It's a minor detail, sometimes almost irrelevant to the whole thing itself, but if the player want to know more about Noelle's character, they have this. If you really want to understand her, read her. I find it very brave to put that stuff in the game, because the whole subject is there, but it's not explicitly said, you have to go after it — and it's a subject that often causes controversy! So this move was really smart.

I wouldn't affirm 100% that she is indeed a masochist, maybe she's just into some freaky stuff and she's still discovering herself. It's early to say. But this analysis is really relevant to read her. I love how you emphasized the consent part and how Noelle said that if she knew that after the fear she would be cared for, and know that she's okay and everything's under control, she would be fine. I find this really cute. It speaks a lot about her dynamic with Susie, supposedly, or better saying, her crush on her. Noelle knows that Susie isn't mean, she was the first person to say this in the game during the first chapter, she knows that even though Susie is apparently scary she is actually very kind and will care for her. So so so cute. I love both of them.

Today I saw a person on Tiktok posting a video saying "Noelle is one of the most complex characters in Deltarune but y'all are not ready for this conversation", and they weren't, of course. The comments were just mocking her or bringing up other characters. Noelle is not shallow at all, I think she's at level with the main characters and Berdly as well.

DELTARUNE: A Masochistic Reading of Noelle Holiday and Trends of Masochistic Invalidation

(MASSIVE SPOILERS for all of Deltarune!)

To preface beforehand… everything I’m about to discuss is purely from my own reading, observations, research, and knowledge from friends within alternative communities (S&M and kink) while having very little personal experience with those communities myself. If this makes everything I’m about to discuss feel fraudulent, you are valid for assuming so. Frankly, I’ve been musing over whether I should even be the person writing this analysis. But as a fan of the Deltarune community and especially this character, I felt as if this topic has been disappointingly under-discussed, and I wanted to put any of my pennies into this bucket in hopes of finding those voices. If anyone with real knowledge and lives within these communities happens to read this and finds any of my observations off-base, please inform me in this post’s replies or tumblr asks. I yearn for more analysis on this topic and this character from your voices instead.

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Last week... uh, wait 2 weeks ago (shit), I asked this kinda out of nowhere:

“Is Noelle Holiday a masochist?”

My answer? Yes!

… but I want to rephrase the question slightly. Noelle is a minor, so linking her to masochism, even when specifically talking about S&M relationship dynamics and not the physical act of S&M is pretty touchy. 

Instead, let me rephrase it this way:

“What observations can we gather from Noelle’s arc under a masochistic reading?”

I don’t think I have to elaborate that Noelle, at the very least, has masochistic tendencies. All of her wiki pages say it, fan communities make constant jokes about it, and thanks to the voters last week, I know a decent majority also agree.

thanks everybody!

So why the heck am I talking about this like some big deal if this is mostly agreed upon?

I’ve combed across tons of Noelle analysis from psychological profiles, her metatextual relevance to Deltarune, the shipping wars, etc. I’ve scoured quite a bit ever since Ch 2… yes, for that long.

And to speak frankly… I think a lot of fans aren’t willing to take Noelle’s masochism seriously.

Not just in the “oh isn’t it funny that she wants to be stepped on” kinda way (though those memes are still very funny), but sometimes in a “Noelle’s masochism is a character-flaw” sort of way. 

And I have some concerns that I’ll get into later...

(btw, I’m only linking comments that are genuinely in good faith in this post, I’d rather not draw attention to the malicious ones.)

Here’s my piece: I don’t think Noelle is down bad just for the fun of making thirst jokes, I strongly believe that Noelle was explicitly written to be a repressed adolescent exploring her masochistic tendencies. 

Originally, when I finished Chapter 2, I had many thoughts on the Weird Route that I couldn’t quite put into a sensitive reading because I had no concept of masochism as both a real kink and especially not for artistic analysis.

But since those 4 years, I’ve gotten a bit more familiar with queer communities I’ve only started to see more and more things I hadn’t before.

Let’s check out two major introspective moments from Chapter 2 again:

Ferris Wheel dialogue:

Noelle and Kris below the City:

The reasons for where masochism comes from are varied, and I want to be very careful with making any oversimplifications… but man…

Noelle’s background and the specific way she words her introspective thoughts sound remarkably familiar. Let’s go over Noelle’s traits one by one and connect them to common sentiments shared about the appeal of S&M dynamics (not the sexual activity but the more relationships between them) and the psychology of its participants:

"At first, I cried, but now… it’s like… watching them… makes me feel… comforted?" "It’s scary, but I can just turn it off, right? Now it’s mostly… people, that are scary. Haha."

Noelle seeks out extreme stimuli like being scared from horror movies, pranks, and deep diving disturbing video game secrets. Noelle expresses that the reason she loves these situations is because she knows that they aren’t real and that by the end of them, she’ll be ok.

S&M and kink participants create “scenes” in which people act out extreme, specific scenarios not simply to blindly experience pain or intensity, but to willingly engage in a fictitious version of their desires that in real cases would be dangerous to be in.

"I know we never found anything interesting back there… I mostly remember… crying because I was scared." "But for some reason I feel… nostalgic thinking about it... I guess I didn’t mind being scared if it meant… someone would comfort me."

Noelle also associates fear with a source of nostalgic comfort. This stems from long-gone days where she would frequently be scared, then comforted by someone she loves at the end of these experiences.

There are many cases of masochists seeking out scenes that are reminiscent of the punishment they had received in the past. Some even being re-enactments of deeply traumatic experiences, only this time, THEY CHOOSE to relive it with someone compassionate and will stop when they say so. (this is where safe words come from)

"(Sigh. Kris is the only one who knows how weird I am. It's not fair y'know?! Everyone knows how weird YOU are!)

Noelle lives with a lot of self-loathing and powerlessness in an emotionally neglectful household where she needs to hide her feelings and interests from her mother constantly.

Many masochists grew up in religious or puritanical households that forced them to bottle up their feelings. Some of these feelings transform into a sadism that is turned inward as a way to punish themselves for failing the expectations their environment placed on them.

"You’re the… good kind of scary. You aren’t afraid to… break the rules, y’know?" "… I wish I could do crazy stuff like you."

Noelle spends an exhaustive amount of time helping other people, despite the emotional baggage she already holds. In moments of introspection, Noelle tends to beat herself up internally about being incapable of rebelling and seeking adventure on her own.

While researching this topic, I came across a lot of beautifully written comments from people who expressed that masochism was a way to achieve freedom from themselves. By having someone else occupy their thoughts, they were free from their own intrusive thoughts, from controlling their own bodily sensations, and to have to stop worrying about themselves for a fleeting moment. 

While there are situations where Noelle will often confuse her boundaries and let people walk over her, she’s still at her happiest and most fulfilled when assisting people who genuinely appreciate her.

One of the biggest emotional appeals of masochists creating scenes for others, is a pride in serving as a conduit for other people to explore reactions that they weren’t allowed to share with anyone else beforehand.

And I haven’t even mentioned Susie yet!

Noelle fantasizes “scenes” with Susie, even to a degree that when she witnesses Susie’s bullying as an outsider, even to her childhood friend, she wishes she could be the one taking the humiliation instead.

Noelle is into people like Susie for a very specific quality.

A person she considers “the good kind of scary”. Someone who is fiercely independent, who uses intimidation as an act, but comes out as emotional and kind-hearted when simply talked to.

And hell, for the Kriselle or the Krusielle crowd, Noelle seems to find these same qualities in Kris as well.

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Their entire childhood relationship was based on similar foundations.

Kris used to scare Noelle through play-tearing out their heart, jumpscaring her from under her sheets, and covering themselves in blood like a zombie. A majority of these pranks were done innocently, and if any were to go too far, Kris would apologize or protect her from real danger.

Even if Noelle doesn’t have romantic feelings for Kris, they undeniably played a big role in forming experiences that Noelle now associates with companionship and desire.

Real practices of S&M or sadomasochism aren’t about inflicting/experiencing pain just for the sake of it. The point is to create a consensual relationship with the awareness that they ultimately have control over whatever is done to them.

All parties in an S&M dynamic MUST trust each other to only go as far as they need to.

It’s consent from all parties that makes the relationship legitimate.

This is the most important fact to keep in mind moving forward. Remember this.

If you’ve read up to this point, I imagine (hopefully) this all sounds plenty reasonable… except…

At the cost of undermining everything I typed up beforehand…

Again, it’s tricky to just label Noelle as a masochist and call it a day because she’s a teenager. 

Teenagers are famously incapable of understanding themselves, second-guessing their identities and orientations constantly. It’s still a developmental phase. Noelle is especially more emotionally stunted because her home life thrives on her masking through a jolly smile.

She’s barely had the chance to figure out or commit to her interests, so there’s no way to tell if she’ll still like these things or even still like Susie if they ever get into a serious relationship.

So… I just owned myself, right? Essay over?

Well… I have more evidence, but unfortunately, we’re going to have to get into the weird route. Where, unfortunately, these traits are far more obvious.

While this next part might be a tough read, I implore you to sit through as I think some of the MOST important messages of this reading are attained in this route.

(Content Warning: Topics of real-life abuse and toxic power dynamics.)

To me, the most disturbing aspect of the Weird Route isn’t the mass murder, it being the path to an alternative, darker ending, or even Noelle becoming a second player vessel or whatever.

Instead, it's the raw portrayal of an abusive romantic relationship.

When combined with the reading I’ve been using for Noelle so far…

In an extremely twisted way, the Weird Route acts as a sadomasochistic awakening for Noelle. And by selecting very specific options, the Player conditions her existing tendencies to make her unable to distinguish between consent and abuse.

Let’s look over the details:

While Noelle ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT ENJOY THE PLAYER’S ABUSE OF HER, she seems to increasingly become more and more willing to inflict harm on Darkners with the justification that doing so will make her more independent. All with a frozen smile on her face that only breaks when encountering Berdly.

While sadism and masochism are different in definition, a lot of masochism is defined to be sadism inflicted onto oneself. One reason for masochism I cited earlier is that some people desire pain and punishment because they feel like they deserve it. In this case, I feel as if Noelle is redirecting the sadism inflicted onto herself onto the Cyber City mobs once the Player has convinced her that this is all just a game.

Throughout Ch 2’s Weird Route, Noelle is subject to so much stress that she enters a trance-like state where she surrenders her mind, her memories, and even her physical sensations to our commands. In spite of everything, she interprets her predicament as freeing.

“To some, masochism was a way to achieve freedom from themselves. By having someone else control them, they were free from intrusive thoughts, from controlling their own bodily sensations, and to have to stop worrying about themselves for a fleeting moment.”

While freezing enemies on the way, you need to take Noelle to Spamton’s door, which she excitedly calls creepy… but also nostalgic. It’s very likely she is remembering the times she, Kris, Asriel, and Dess used to explore scary places together.

Again, some masochists seek out scenes that depict traumatic memories as a way of re-living them with a higher degree of control over those events. Noelle says that on each of these adventures, she would usually just cry and run away, but on the Weird Route, SHE is the one literally breaking the rules of the world and deciding the course of events.

Post Snowgrave, Kris returns to her to apologize. Then promises that none of it will happen again and to stay away. Instead, Noelle obsesses over Kris all day, even seeing her crush on Susie, as secondary. When they finally get to talk again, they both start at the end of a long couch, but as the conversation progresses, Noelle tenderly scoots all the way over to lean on Kris… despite them being the physical entity that she had just experienced a day of pain, trauma, and abuse from. 

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Ok… let me cut off from the disturbing shit for just a second…

…And tangent onto something else I find very kinda disturbing.

Let’s talk about the weird ways anti-Suselle discussion incidentally or even purposely delegitimizes Noelle’s crush BECAUSE of her masochistic fantasies.

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I’m not waging a shipping war here! It’s fine if Suselle isn’t your cup of tea, and strictly writing-related reasons are all valid. But I gotta go over some of the weirder sentiments I’ve run into during the agonizing post-Ch 2 era.

“How can Noelle still be into Susie knowing all the red flags? She even saw Kris get bullied badly and did nothing!” “Noelle barely knows Susie, what if she got into serious trouble by ending up with a rotten person?” “Noelle is unhealthily obsessed with Susie, it’s almost dehumanizing how so much of her attraction is based off of humiliation fantasies.” “Does Noelle even like Susie or just the idea of her?”

Here’s the thing… I actually don’t disagree with these comments in a broad sense.

It’s true that Noelle is already a very defenseless, self-sabotaging person who is seeking out a dangerous girl. A bully whom most of her classmates are terrified of being approached by.

It���s also true that Noelle knows so little about the real Susie that a lot of her expectations are definitely idealized. 

Susie’s bully persona was always a facade to keep other people away. And now that she’s become comfortable, no longer needing to use it… it’s reasonable to wonder if Noelle might have the wrong idea about Susie.

However, I feel like some of these sentiments, even if I’m certain 90% of are just out of goodwill and protectiveness for Noelle’s sake. The Deltarune community is dominated with queer support and I don’t mean to imply the community or these comments are bigoted.

However, I think a lack of sensitivity in addressing masochistic personality traits comes dangerously close to invalidating Noelle’s autonomy in a similar way to how femmes who participate in kink and identify with submission are often policed online.

Because of the misguided notions that masochists just LOVE pain and abuse for the sake of it, people are immediately discomforted whenever they hear of people engaging in S&M dynamics. Leading to shit like this:

“This is why bullies and abusers feel comfortable in their spaces.” “Victims are enabling these situations to occur more” “These helpless girls are going to end trapped in an abusive relationship or even dead” “Bad actors love that you let them take advantage of you” “Masochism is a mental illness, you need serious therapy”

Trust me, I relate heavily to being worried for other people and not wanting anyone to get seriously hurt… but these comments exist as a microcosm of people who are unwilling to see kinks and S&M as a valid experience.

The more comfortable people get invalidating masochism as an illness, the easier it is to distance yourself from them through jokes and shame.

And the real sad thing is: It’s easy to ignore victim blaming done by incoherent misogynists… but it’s polarizing to address victim blaming performed by overprotective online policing.

Oftentimes, hate speech and concern can seem indistinguishable.

…I’ve been struggling to write this part of the analysis for quite a while because one of the most upsetting realizations I made was that the Weird Route could be interpreted as fuel for victim blaming directed towards masochists and submissive femmes. 

After all, why should people like Noelle be trusted with her freedom when we have palpable proof that she will fail to assert herself when real danger shows up?

The fine line I’ve been trying to balance is that Noelle IS mentally unwell. Noelle’s masochistic tendencies ARE rooted from trauma.

And in a way, Queen and Rudy DO have a point that Noelle is deeply vulnerable to outside forces and needs watchful protection.

But I’ll repeat again, S&M is NOT a willing acceptance of violence and abuse. Legitimate S&M dynamics are found on consent!

The Weird Route is a cautionary tale on relationships that form when consent isn’t part of the equation.

Noelle becomes trapped into this abusive relationship NOT because of her masochistic tendencies, but because she has NEVER been able to explore a romantic relationship or her tendencies and hasn’t properly established her boundaries.

The moment Kris (the Player) returns to their commanding voice and physically endangers her, her longing for Kris is GONE.

I’m certain that Toby knew and predicted potential bad faith readings that could’ve been applied to Noelle’s behavior on this route. Which is why Noelle’s background is so absurdly detailed and specific.

Let’s go over the REAL necessary context that led to this:

Noelle lives in an unchanging, puritanical household trapped eternally in Christmas. Enforced by a very collectivist, matriarchal family dynamic that, as the next woman of the family, she must live up to. 

It’s almost to a comical degree with Carol preserving artifacts of the traumatic Dremurr/Holiday split scattered all over the house to remind her every day of what they’ve lost.

Carol is not just a strict mother but also the Mayor of Hometown.

She’s extremely neglectful of Noelle and is told to be “hard on her” whenever she’s around.

Despite being a valedictorian, a pillar of her community, giving gifts to her, and staying put, Carol never seems to show any open appreciation for her. To her, the success and safety of her daughter is more important than a loving relationship.

Perhaps to avoid ever having to relive what happened with Dess...

Noelle just seems scared of her. She won’t argue back or complain even when she is locked out of her house for hours. And throughout all her life, she’s had to hide her interests and relationships from her.

Rudy is at most a mediator of these domestic issues, but doesn’t fix them.

He even neglects serious matters by hiding behind smiles and jokes. And a lot of her inability to admit her emotions could be inspired by her father.

Noelle is also living with some PTSD or even guilt over her sister’s disappearance. Kris, Dess, and Asriel have vanished from her lives one way or another, and with Rudy bedridden, she’s running out of people to love.

Is it any surprise that Noelle, once The Player promises her some liberation, wearing the skin of a person she yearns to connect with again, and who also happens to know the ins and outs of Noelle’s psychology, easily folds to them?

The Weird Route is the consequence of restrictive parenting, emotional neglect, and most of all, invalidation. 

This is why talking about this is so important. And it’s why I’ve spent this ungodly amount of time researching this just to talk about a pixelated deer girl.

I didn't write this. But it is facts.

Even if I’m just completely bananas on Noelle’s tendencies being a serious plot point, and even if it’s kind of ridiculous to diagnose fictional characters that we literally cannot question or talk properly to…

Fandoms read personality traits onto characters based both on their writing AND vibes. I mean look at the trans Noelle debate that popped up a few years back.

Brainrot Artistic analysis isn’t about scientifically dissecting the exact psychoanalysis bucket we can put a fictional character into, but the RELATABILITY of the struggles of fictional characters, where we can base entire readings off of.

If we can find valuable connections and lessons in fictional characters, even if we just hallucinated those intentions, those conversations can help us connect to ourselves and other people.

If even someone who only has a broad understanding of masochism can somehow see Noelle as a masochist, even if Toby never intended this (even though I think he did), it is still a valid reading.

And if I’m allowed to be slightly more inflammatory, popular characters like Noelle from a massively popular game, consequentially often have their less relatable qualities erased from discussion and headcanons. I’ve seen it time and time again with degrees of insensitivity.

It’s been done with Noelle, and you’ve definitely seen it with Kris.

46 citations! You didn't want to leave them a chance, huh?!! Did you feel anger? Hate? They were bleeding, begging for you to get out of their body. But you misgendered them! Again and again!

People should be allowed to explore their sexuality and seek relationships that they can grow from. That’s how a person finds their threshold for consent in the first place.

And just because Noelle has a weird, fetishistic love for someone, doesn’t mean it’s not real or worth delving into or questioning herself.

But here’s what I hope I’m trying to get across here is that, and hopefully for the FINAL time:

IT’S ALL ABOUT CONSENT!!! Consent is the difference between valid romantic experiences vs straight-up abuse.

That’s how marginalized people and people who have felt invalid their entire life FIND their communities. Through LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of trial and error!

Maybe the relationship will shatter. Maybe these desires will be preyed on by an abuser. And for Noelle’s case, maybe by seeking this danger, she’ll experience another traumatic experience and shatter her already broken conscience further.

But here’s the thing. 

How often does Noelle ever show confidence about what she feels? How often does she act on anything for her own sake? 

If Noelle’s desires can be exploited, doesn’t the blame fall on the exploiter and not the person who had the right to seek them out?

And lo and behold, Susie’s actually pretty chill after all! 

And by Chapter 4, I think you’d be delusional to still assume Susie doesn’t reciprocate some feelings back.

She gets so distracted by finding out if Suselle is canon that Kris can go down a large hallway, undergo an entire art therapy session, and eat that sweet sweet moss without her noticing.

Knowing how little Noelle ever allows herself to express her own interests, I think it’s actually healthier to just let her find out herself and see what truly makes her happy.

And let’s be perfectly honest - teenage relationships almost never hold up anyways. Suselle, Kriselle, …….Berdelle? It doesn't matter.

Regardless of who she ends up with at the end of Deltarune, it’s not guaranteed to be positive or even last… but the learning experience absolutely will. 

AKA: Don’t be a Carol.

PS. Holy [$?%!] this took way too goddamn long.

Everything I’ve said here is honestly very surface-level and more a result of my distant fascination for all sorts of people across marginalized spaces. 

I don’t know these people well enough to truly connect to them, but the best I’d like to offer is to explain why they are so interesting. At the very least, this character gave me a great excuse to delve into this topic further.

But for now, I need to give irl serious topics like this a break, I’ll be back to more fun posts until then.

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cherry sundae suselle fanart ⊹₊୨୧ ⁺₊

I was afraid of adding this description to the video on tiktok bc of censorship and stuff (cuz they're just like that) but I wanted to say that this drawing feels so sweet that I felt my pressure falling. It tastes like SUGAR. I don't have diabetes but this has too much glicose it might be harmful. Teeth rotting fluff indeed. I think of whipped cream, chocolate, ice cream, cherries, strawberry, SUGAR pure sugar aaawwghawah they are so !!!!

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im kinda embarassed of this but still

kris, noelle and a little susie

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Eu vi aquele seu post de toy story, falando sobre o passado da Jessie e o assunto sobre a infância de menina (girlhood) e tals, e eu queria tocar mais no ponto do segundo assunto.

Pq assim, essa discussão é extremamente centralizada na infância de meninas brancas, não queer e neurotípicas. Quando as pessoas falam de girlhood, é sempre a meninez das garotas brancas, cis e não neurodivergente, e ninguém questiona isso, tlgd?

Pq assim, véi, eu sou uma pessoa negra parda, não binária e superdotada/autista. Não é o fato de que eu fui imposta ao gênero feminino durante a infância e que eu gostava de rosa que vai fazer a minha meninez ser igual a girlhood que a galera vive falando. Até porque minha infância vai ser moldada a partir da minha percepção de mim mesme e da sociedade sobre mim, o que significa que o racismo e o capacitismo/psicofobia, a formanormatividade, e a minha própria percepção afetaram a mim de uma maneira que não vai afetar as meninas que são majoritariamente representadas pelo conceito mais popular de girlhood.

Raiai, espero que um dia a galera passe a mencionar a girlhood de pessoas queer (incluindo a de garotos trans e pessoas intersexo também, pq esses são dois grupos muito jogados pra debaixo do ônibus quando o assunto é gênero), racializadas, neuro-atípicas e outras identidades marginalizadas também. Pq tipo, o conceito é uma boa oportunidade pra explorar diversos tópicos, incluindo assuntos como infância roubada, complexidade de gênero, infâncias perante a sociedade e a interseção de diferentes culturas e a infância típicamente feminina tals, mas enfim a galera parece que criou um aesthetic em cima disso....???? E parece que ninguém quer falar de forma mais profunda e matizada sobre isso então eu só vou comentar isso na tua ask box mesmoKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Então, infelizmente esses diretores grandes norte-americanos só falam sobre perspectivas norte-americanas. Eu sou autista e queer, mas eu me identifiquei bastante com a história e com a cena, até porque eu cresci também obcecada por desenhos animados, bonecas e brinquedos. Hiperfoco inclusive, tive muito. Infelizmente eu cresci sem amigos e sofrendo bullying na escola kkkkk mas acho que esse sentimento de girlhood é essa parte gostosa da infância e da juventude feminina. Tem muita gente que foca só na branquidez e um monte de merdas mas pra mim a graça é a ingenuinade e felicidade daqueles momentos, e a postagem também é sobre isso. Eu nunca morei nos Estados Unidos, não sou dos anos 50, não me chamava Emily e vivia dentro do universo Pixar como uma personagem fictícia, mas a experiência dela foi muito semelhante a minha e vejo que também se encaixa com a maioria das descrições por aí, pois a cena é justamente feita pra despertar essa tristeza/saudade da infância. Você deve ter lido que fiz um destaque sobre a diferença entre a experiência da Emily e a do Andy (cada um com uma infância baseada em gênero, que é o que acontece no nosso mundo :/ ), mas a do Andy a gente vê o tempo todo, já a Emily, naqueles poucos segundos, conseguiu capturar bastante o sentimento. Aquele post foi um post bem curtinho com uma análise biased já que é inspirado nessas experiências como essa aqui, que no caso também foram como a minha, apesar das particularidades da minha vida, o bullying e etc

Na minha postagem não fiz exclusividade pra meninas brancas, heterossexuais e neurotípicas, eu falei da graça da infância, de gostar de desenhos e bonecas. Se as outras pessoas falam sobre isso e excluem as minorias do assunto, você devia falar sobre o assunto em lugares com um alcance mais geral, como o tiktok, pra chegar nas outras pessoas, já que minha postagem foi focada em brinquedos, nostalgia, e como foi crescer com uma infância """de menina"""" como geralmente é rotulado, e sejamos sinceros, outros gêneros além do feminino experienciam essa infância dita como feminina também — Acredito ser meio claro, mas caso não seja, resolvi esclarecer ainda mais. Eu não sinto minha experiência excluída nesses vídeos, mesmo sendo neurodivergente, até porque os vídeos não focam nisso. Eu também brincava quando era criança.

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high school sweethearts :]

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deltarune doodles !!! i made this a while back but i forgot to post it ... so posting it now !!! i should probably draw more deltarune (since, I like it n stuff) but i dont for some reason ??? lawl. i made this in magma with @angelicpearlise !! fun ...

(alternative coloring of noelle under cut !!)

yuppers

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Susie and Noelle making out in Noelle's room and Susie pauses to turn all the plushies to look away from them and Noelle thinks that's oddly adorable of her but Susie is legitimately worried about Darkners spectating them

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Amg tem algum shipp que você tem filtrado no tumblr??? (Literalmente a melhor função que descobri)

Você me deu abertura pra falar de algo que tava na minha cabeça por muito tempo, prepare pro textão: Krus*e! (There is translation)

Eu vejo Susie e Kris como melhores amigos e ver gente forçando esse casal me deixa meio assim. Sinto muito a vibe do Dustin e do Eddie de Stranger Things vindo desses dois, e quando o pessoal desenha eles tipo se pegando em segredo, ou então pior, quando shippam só pra zoar a Noelle, fico com nojo. Tem um pessoal que gosta desse shipp que fala exatamente isso, que é só pra ter a graça de fazer a noelle de "cuck*lle" e acho isso uma puta falta de respeito. Ela é uma adolescente de 16 anos. A gente sabe muito bem de onde vem essa graça, vem justamente porque ela é a personagem mais girly girl e pra deixar a situação dela ainda mais difícil ela é lésbica, duas coisas que as pessoas adoram importunar. Aí inventam que ela é tóxica e não sei oq... aff fico sem paciência! Odeio briga de shipp, acho a coisa mais estúpida que tem, mas a minha questão com Kru*ie é que muitos, os que mais se destacam ao menos, zoam muito a Noelle + Suselle, e isso não vem apenas de um fundo de shipp, vem de um preconceito. E outra que os gringos sempre erram pronomes, e ficam chamando Kris de "he/him", então sinto vindo desse shipp uma heteronormatividade forçada pra caramba, porque a Susie é uma butch (provavelmente lésbica) e Kris é não binário. Kriselle também tem essa heteronormatividade mas não vejo eles assediando ou perturbando os outros, além de que esse shipp é muito visto na rota snowgrave, que em si critica o jogador forçando uma heteronormatividade sobre os personagens, com apologia ao casamento e tal. Então eu até entendo porque tem conteúdo deles. Não shippo como casal mas me interesso como conceito, principalmente na snowgrave. Enfim, eu vejo que Krus*e é muito uma desculpa pra excluir a Noelle, pela graça da infelicidade dela, e pela graça de negar Suselle. Obviamente Kris é NB e a relação com a Susie seria lésbica, só que a gente sabe muito bem que a fandom fica invalidando que Kris é NB, e se a gente une isso com esse shipp com a Susie, junto também a graça de zoar a Noelle e ver Suselle dando errado, a gente coloca tudo isso numa mistura e entende de onde vem. Claro que tem gente que shippa Krus*e apenas pela graça do casal mas honestamente eu desenvolvi um incômodo com esse shipp depois de tudo isso, e prefiro nem ver o conteúdo deles. A relação deles é tão melhores amgs que nem me desce. Censurei o nome do shipp deles pois pode aparecer na pesquisa dos dos outros e não quero me vincular pra não arranjar discussões.

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i dont think she knows how kissing works

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Surprise hug!

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I wanna draw susie doing something cool but everything that comes up in my mind is drawing her and noelle as children or them enjoying a milkshake together- my brain just know how to create cutesy scenarios

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crybaby

(Blood warning under the cut)

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I love this! So cute.

swap!

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jokes to make after failure that aren’t self-deprecating:

I’m the best to ever do it

Nobody saw that (best if said loudly)

No one’s ever done it like me

I could be President/they should make me President

Behold, a mere fraction of my power!

The public wants to be me soooooo bad

I’m an expert in (thing you just failed at)

How could this have happened to god’s favorite princess?

Nothing ibuprofen and a glass of water cant fix

I’m being sabotaged

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When I think of my other fandoms I remember how I felt like obligated to draw the characters I liked. They were fun, but like, sometimes I got tired of it, it was almost like they were uninteresting to make art of. But Deltarune is so "drawable". They're so fun and colorful and have fun shapes. SUSIE I'M LOOKING AT YOU. I wanna draw her over and over and over again, she's so colorful and different, her character is amazing, her body type is also so cool because she's really big and tall and different from what we're used to see represented in media, her punk style is peak character design, I don't know just every time I talk about her I wanna explode. Her face is fun to draw. Her hair is fun to draw. Her clothes are fun to draw. She's all made of fun shapes and silly expressions and she's cool as hell. Not to mention that the things her character stands for are also great. I'm talking about representation, about marginalized groups (cuz she was victim of prejudice in the past, she went through a lot, is probably struggling at home, many other things), about confidence, about sexuality, about gender performance, about non-confirming, she's so AAAHHHHHHH SUSIE DELTARUNE GRHHAARRGHH GHARRHG SAVE ME I wanna draw her so many times more I just need ideas

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"But I'm a Cheerleader!" ⊹₊୨୧ ⁺₊

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I just changed the suselle fandom forever after this one.

This is the version without filters. I hate this green undertone on the paper, it's because of the light of my house and how I edit the image to make the colors more defined and closer to how the look in my eyes, since the camera doesn't capture it properly. The one at the beginning of the post has a filter on to make it look more pink, but the quality is lower :(

Btw look at these gifs and how cute they are!!! I couldn't decide just one.