#12th house moon

[myun-saidthoughts]

Understanding 12th House Synastry

(*updated* and more accurate post about about 12th house synastry overlays along with Neptune synastry that makes harsh aspects to another's inner planets such as the Sun, Moon, rising, Venus or Mars)

There are two sides of 12th house synastry that I commonly see. The spectrum is different compared to the 8th house because with the 8th house, there are highs and lows, obvious extremes, there's oftentimes constant lessons, cycles and loops, but with the 12th house, there's a different undertone.

The 12th house is a very unforeseen house, when it comes with synastry, the spectrum of love that can be received and given is unfathomable. I am going to first discuss what this energy is like when someone deals with this type of synastry while having Neptune (especially harshly) aspecting your inner planets/12th house placements/Pisces placements; then I will go in-depth for how they would feel without those placements.

(that being said my main discussion deals with the foundation of both individuals having attraction or interest on both ends, as well as other intense synastry overlays such as harsh or soft attraction synastry aspects, + eros, lilith, chiron, pluto, or 8th house synastry)

As a 12th house native or with heavy Pisces influence (e.g., a Pisces Venus, Sun, Moon, rising, or with a natal Neptune squaring, opposing or conjunct the Sun, Moon, rising, Venus) this type of synastry is confusing, it's blurry and parts of you can second guess almost everything about them, what you are to them, what they are to you etc. There are no tangible boundaries when it comes to the emotional depth you are willing to feel for them. On some days you can find yourself wondering where you stand with them, you fixate on their energy, and you'll wonder if they're thinking of you. You look into their eyes and just feel their mental health struggles, their fears, their hidden thoughts, what they need to hear to feel seen past the 3D. You're like a walking and breathing affirmation audio tape of everything their subconscious always wished to of heard throughout life. That one broken image or belief they have within their subconscious self is the one thing you can't help but compliment them on, the feelings they ignore, suppress or hide away are the feelings you want to naturally reassure them about. It's like you become this real life 3D fixer upper for this individual, and you just can't help but be drawn with saving, helping, or fixing them. (undoubtedly so if you also fall in their 2nd house, especially your inner planets, if there is no 2nd house influence then the compliments/praising will be less intense or frequent)

The beginning of this synastry embodies confusion. Since there's no real tangible statement or understanding you can hold onto. You'll just know how they operate before ever really knowing them.

You'll just want to make sure that they are okay, and that can come in many different ways, you yourself will just know. You can turn into this savior that they never knew they needed, you'll just want to give and love everything out of them; and in some cases receiving or having that mutual give and take may be something you think you don't need, especially when it comes to them, and especially if you have a natal 12th House Venus or a Pisces Venus/a Natal Venus that squares, conjuncts or opposes Neptune (this can apply to the Moon as well).

To reiterate; if you share the above placements you instantly can become drawn towards the house person. You will look at them and see every facet of their being, their hidden pain, their sorrows, why they feel the way they do, why they struggle the way they struggle, their mental health dilemmas, their soul; especially so if you as well have a water Moon that harshly aspects Neptune as well as the above listed placements. But these feelings don't persist automatically or openly, the desires the planet person or the one person who has the placements I listed/spiritual enlightenment + attraction towards the house person (or the other person) stays at bay and stays being unsaid, especially in the beginning. The planet person with these placements etc etc, can hold onto constant dilemmas and wonder if what they are feeling is real, if what they desire is one sided, especially if there is little to no communication between the dynamic.

On the other side of the spectrum, this bond (when wanted on both ends) can create a soul binding connection where the house person would feel like no one else can ever understand them the way the planet person can. No one else would be able to read them like the book they secretly are, no one else can look into their eyes and bring solace into their bones, which in-turn can cause the dynamic between them to consistently become something that is impossible to let go of.

With attraction + desire the house person may feel like a hug from the planet person* (or vice versa) is equivalent to receiving a sense of understanding and safety that they weren't aware they ever needed. The house person may just find themselves fully being able to lay and hold onto the planet person* and there's this unsaid desire just be next to them. The planet person* may instinctively feel this pull or knowing that there is a softer more serene side of the house person that not everyone see's and even though there's no tangible words to hold onto, that feeling within them doesn't dissipate. Just with one hug from the house person and the planet person* will know that there's a soft and quiet side inside them that they hide or suppress away.

* = placements I listed + spiritually understanding/enlighted

The house person will ask themselves: How do I let go of the one soul who speaks to the parts of myself that I don't even know? The intensity of the bond can vary based on each others natal placements, but I do believe the connection can become deep and unworldly even without the placements I've listed since attraction and desire are two KEY factors that would override any natal placement. Instant psychic understanding about one another on both ends (regardless of natal placements) can occur, you both will know what the other person is thinking, feeling, and needing. If there is genuine desire for one another then the depth of care can become very ethereal and unspoken, especially if the Moon or Venus are involved; if attraction is present and you have the placements I mentioned, a part of you will just want to hold onto the house person. You'll just want to comfort and be present in the moment with them. All that matters to you is that they are doing and feeling okay, with them this part of you unlocks where you just want to caress their soul. But like I said natal placements do have an immense influence, one individual could feel this pull and understanding (w/o the placements I mentioned) but the depth and length for caring may not run as deep as someone else who has the natal placements I listed. They will still care in some shape or form in ways they never knew was possible; but the turnover of moving on or of minimizing selfless acts can become more shallow and less frequent throughout time.

When wanted on both ends with genuine care and desire the song Run To You by Lea Michele perfectly depicts this type of deep care.

Now this type of synastry can also begin the influence of delusion or false presumptions. Genuineness and self awareness is key, not everyone will desire such depth of the unknown especially if they themselves have no set understanding of their own subconscious beliefs.

To reiterate, if this is one sided therefore if they don't share attraction or desire for you; then this type of behavior will feel invasive and they may become confused or unsure with what to do with that type of depth that your eyes can bring them, if they are unaware of their own shadow self, along with not wanting to change or be spiritually awoken, this type of connection can be daunting and misleading in some way for them.

Now lets go deeper: for someone who doesn't have any 12th house Venus, Pisces Venus, Neptune influence (or if you have little to no attraction or interest towards them), or low spiritual awareness/acknowledgement of your own mental health struggles/hidden fears and if someone comes in to your life where they fall in your 12th house, the feelings that acclimate mainly are confusion, resistance or hesitation. You might have some hidden curiosity about the planet person but generally the curiosity can be the furthest you go with this individual. There might be some hidden tension or eye glances towards another but with it there is also a barrier between the two of you. You may feel like you know their body language or what their eye glances mean but you more than likely brush it off and set aside any spiritual coincidences that you have with them. You may also wither back and forth between being more inclined to getting to know them to being unsure with your interest in them or there's a sense of unpreparedness you may struggle with when it comes to this individual. A part of you may feel like their type of love can sooth parts of you that you ignore or mentally struggle with but that type of care can feel unneeded and can bring in fear; since there is a unspoken knowing of what they are able to truly view and feel for you if they were your partner. You may ask yourself, "Can this person fix, and heal me? " "Do I really need to be saved?" "Is this all in my head?" "Can they be the pacifier for the pain I can't even openly express; or will they bring me more sorrow?"

(this dilemma of curiosity is more apparent if you share other direct intense synastry aspects such as 8th/pluto/intense attraction aspects especially with eros or lilith etc)

(Even writing the paragraph above brought me so much confusion, for this post I am drawing from my own experience with 12th house + harsh Neptune synastry with a boy i've known for years and it still brings me so much hesitation and confusion with how he may feel about me. I still stand in uncertainty and confusion even though my own sense of how I feel towards him is consciously open, this energy is so extremely hard to pin point and logically articulate especially as someone who has 12th house placements + harsh aspects to my Moon. I as well share 8th house synastry with the relationship I am referencing and even from being so introspective and readily aware of how 8th house synastry manifests from every minuscule feeling or thought, I am still stuck with; confusion when it comes to the 12th house)

That being said, if there is a connection where one person has these natal placements and desires for the other individual but the other partner doesn't share the same attraction/placements; then that is when unrequited love or unspoken love can occur. To summarize, for 12th house and neptune synastry to be mutual even if the other partner doesn't have those natal these placements, there has to be attraction or desire; whether it be physical, or emotional. Someone could have these placements that I've listed but if there is no want, attraction or desire towards the other person; the dynamic can also become one sided on their end even with the placements and tendencies of being drawn towards connections that share 12th/neptune/pisces influence.

12th house synastry is the house of selflessness, this is the house of giving and giving to no end; since in one essence this house holds no end or beginning, therefore the boundaries and understanding that this house can carry is unknown. Each dynamic with 12th house synastry can be complexed, there are many factors that play a role in influencing this type of connection such as your natal placements, their natal placements, your natal aspects, their natal aspects, you desire and attraction and their desire and attraction and so on. Someone could sit in this confused and undesired energy for the other person for months and have all the placements I've listed. Therefore if that said individual is not prepared or have any desires to hold a connection that is deep and unspoken, they themselves (the planet person or the person who has 12th house/neptune/pisces influence) may even still feel fear or invasiveness towards the other individual that their share 12th house synastry with or vice versa; there are so many avenues and routes these connections can take, at least that's from my own astrological understanding and take on these type of connections.

Side Note: To balance the intensity these synastry aspects/overlays bring, taking on the opposite houses themes would bring more ease and create less intensity.

For example, dealing with 12H (Even Neptune) synastry, the opposite house is the 6H, the house of routine, daily life, mundane affairs, healthcare, helping others/giving etc etc. So to ease this type of fixation this synastry can cause, focus and enhance your own skills when it comes to your physical/mental health. Add more day to day to activities that solely focuses on changing your routine; however big or small. That will ease the fixation that 12H and Neptune synastry brings. This synastry can cause you to daydream or obsess over them, and since you may have this innate need to be their savior that wants to try and fix their wounds, the chance of putting yourself in situations where your priority is solely them is very likely. You could also fantasize and have an escapist attitude with them, (or the idea of them) therefore, they can serve as an escape for you; by focusing on their pain and struggles might cause you to forget about your own mental health challenges. You also might repeat scenarios in your head or fantasize about situations happening; especially since you might feel confused/hazy with where you stand with them, therefore keeping yourself busy is key with this synastry, and that will create more control within you.

P.S

This is all from my own interpretation of 12th house synastry, I would confidently say I am a very very introspective person at heart, I read between the lines constantly and overly fixate on behavior etc and this synastry still clouded my own judgment and understanding for years; it brought in tendencies for me to doubt my true feelings and curiosity, only until I more so let go of the relationship that I am referencing (the boy where I have 8th house synastry with) was the only time I was able to fully look outside my situation with him when it came to my actions and feelings. The constant back and fourth dilemma I struggled with when it came to knowing him and who he was was constant yet truly instant. My soul knew him before my brain did and because of that knowing I was unsure and unconfident with the type of feelings that persisted in the dynamic I shared with him. I have made so many posts about 12th house synastry but I can confidently say that this current post is now the most accurate representation of what can occur between these relationships.

Hope this brings some clarity and understanding for others who have dealt with 12th house and Neptune synastry; if not disregard and again this type of synastry is truly nuanced and multifaceted.

If this resonates with you I have an eBook that perfectly depicts and explains if you are in a karmic relationship. It's about 8th/12th/Pluto/Neptune/Saturn/Vertex/Nodal synastry. I give insights, exact transits, exact synastry overlays, natal chart interpretations and more advice on what to do in these situations. More information is pinned on my page.

[claireverything]

I feel like, as a 12th house person, you really have to turn down the volume on everyone else most of the time. Turn down the volume of their opinions, their thoughts, their beliefs.

Living for myself was the best thing I could ever have done for myself. Choosing and committing to my own world, to my own dreams, to my own visions. Yes it's lonely, and yes it feels isolating. But it's worth being able to live for myself, and I'm saying this as someone who never did. I grew up always living for other people to the point where my life didn't feel like my own (another very 12th house trait).

We're meant to be solitary. We're meant to be isolated. We're meant to be distanced from people. Because the truth is people are not well. They are not sane. And they are not powerful. And we are meant to be powerful. We are powerful, always have been. We just forgot, spending all our time living for everyone else. For everyone else's idea of what Life is. Of what Purpose is.

Don't forget. Be yourself and remember. Even if that isolates you to the end of the world and beyond. Because actually, you're never really alone *whispers* but that's a post for another day

[illicit-astrology]

My Favorite Synastry Aspects

⚜My favorite synastry aspects from astrological reasoning and personal experience (in no order) ⚜:

Part 2

Venus conjunct Chiron: the Venus person's love and affectionate energy helps the Chiron person unpack their trauma and heal their wounds, easily. This is the best aspect for chiron healing.

Moon in the 12th house: this is the best 12th house overlay imo. The Moon's energy doesn't feel estranged in the 12th house. If the 12th house person has troubles sleeping, sleeping with the Moon person can help a lot.

Venus conjunct/trine Jupiter: they bring great joy into each other's lives. This aspect results in so much laughter and easy chemistry.

Saturn conjunct/trine Juno: this aspect eliminates any vagueness or 'lack of labels' that can jeopardise the connection. Both Saturn and Juno wants to committ to each other right away!

Mars conjunct North Node: this aspect is not only highly fateful, but also result in an intense instant connection. The NN person motivates the Mars, while the Mars shows NN the way!

[ancientgoddessofegypt]

12th house and the inner alchemist

I notice people with this placement become deeply aware of what frequencies they want to be around. Like if you want something that is more 'jolly, fun, and whimsical' you might search for it in your mind , and then you start to find it in your body. It starts with the spirit first, then you go into meditation to connect with this energy through the art of imagination. That 'jolly, fun, whimsical energy' could end up taking you to a cool coffee shop, end up taking you into a colorful shop with weird looking food , or hell may take you to the circus ! because what youre looking for is the feeling/energy not the 'thing' itself.

I love to say 12th housers are like the boy in this book called 'The Alchemist', where he wanted to look for a treasure to make all his dreams come true, ends up going on a long journey before he finally finds the treasure that was in his hometown all along. In the end he realized what he wanted wasnt about the treasure, the treasure was a symbol to what he wanted to do in his reality which he eventually did without the treasure itself. The treasure is the idea of the energy he wanted in his life, not the thing itself.

Because the imagination brings things to us, and all though we aren't able to explain exactly what it is we are looking for, we go into meditative states to jump into this reality (manifestation) and then follow it with our bodies. And one by one, piece by piece, we enter into the worlds of our psyche through the physical reality.

One thing I can say about 12th housers, you have to let go of the IDEA because it is just that, an IDEA. it is useful for when you are looking for the spirit/energy of the thing you are looking for.

Also since I brought up the alchemist. The story was about making a way for yourself no matter what obstacles you go through, no matter if you dont have that 'thing' you need to get there. You create your reality as you go.

the boy had a simple intention to go find this treasure because he believed it would allow him stop talk taking care of sheep (he was a sheep boy), he could travel all around the world, find a wife, and live the life of his dreams. He evidently did all of that without the treasure! He made a way without even thinking of it, because he knew since he had left his hometown and the sheep there was no other choice but to make something happen!

I believe 12th housers have that inner alchemist inside them, which is why they are so good at painting, drawing, and whatever other art you can name cause its a lot (lol).

12th housers are great at using these things to attract what they want in their life, they follow the frequency/energy knowingly and unknowingly. I call them he universes messengers because they rely messages to the collective without having to explain to us whats the message.

I notice 12th house individuals show this with their music. like I said with frequency a lot of them know the type of energy they wish to convey in their songs because thats the vibe they want to keep with them as they journey through life.

think of sza, a fellow 12th houser with 4 planets (venus,uranus, saturn, and neptune) and she is known to connect to a certain frequency that sounds like 'fairies, sirens, and anything magical' (im honestly referring to ctrl and her older works from 2013/14)

It can also be a 'curse' one type sza tweeted how singing 'supermodel' off her ctrl album 'summoned' the guy she was talking about in the song.

12th house rules over the subconscious, so sometimes your art can attract what you dont want to you. you have to move around it, learn how to use it as a repellant as it can attract fleas (I say this about pisces/neptune peeps a lot, y'all do tend to attract flies).

using your mind to control your reality can be mastered if you continue to heal the shadow. your shadow is just what you've been accustomed to believe that it is shameful, and cant be seen in the light.

the shadow is who you are, dont be ashamed and run from it.

blessings to all my 12th house individuals you guys have a wonderful gift inside that interesting brain of yours! keep it up.

[sapionic]

The 12th House In Astrology (2024)

Ok, so I just had an epiphany based on a transit and have come to realize that the 12th house can be considered when something happens last minute. Having 12th house placements means that you let those particular things pile up. 2 examples of the 12th house natal placement Moon in the 12th house natally-emotional pile and last minute emotional release. This is why 12th house moons can seem emotional, because the emotions are being felt, but not released right away. It's like filling up a balloon with water. Venus in the 12th house natally-they may let things pile up around them of value whether it be dishes, clothes, or anything,romantic pile up. Might like or love someone, but may not be convincing right away. This can also cause other people to consider them romantically when it is "too late" or almost too late. 2 examples of the 12th house transit Venus in the 12th house - something is piling up. this can be laundry pile ups, romantic pile ups or any material pileup that needs to be handled. How it plays out can vary because there can be pile ups due to shopping or due to maintenance. Transiting aspects will bring it together. Mars in the 12th house - build up of anger or action/waiting til the last minute to do something.

[crisps-craft]

if anyone has 12th house placements I would recommend the book “Your Secret Self” by Tracy Marks! Her writing helped me learn to deal with my 12th house stellium better :3 🌬⭐️

Also “Opening to Channel” by Duane Packer and Sanaya Roman is great ! This book helps me refine and learn new information about channeling, spirit guides, and universe 🪐💫

Just some reading recs ^^ :) enjoy!

[starshapedjello]

Moon in the 12th — Who hurt you?

Moon in the 12th housers are some of the most empathetic people in the universe, but why are they impossible when it comes to expressing their emotions?

Further more…

It is so obvy that y’all are psychic af! But I can’t tell if you know you are or if you are so removed from your own feelings, that your psychic powers are hidden from even you. 🧐

Thoughts??

If you are a 12th house moon and you can’t feel your own emotions, I think this is your sign to maybe start opening up to the idea of becoming a more spiritual person. 🙏 I know it can be scary to imagine that there’s more to the world than what is right in front of us, but you have so much potential just waiting to come out! ❣️

[journalofanoldsoul]

Astro Placement #2

When the Moon in the 12th house in Scorpio forms a trine aspect with Venus in the 8th house in Cancer, it creates a harmonious and supportive connection between the emotional, nurturing energies of the Moon and the sensual, relational qualities of Venus.

Let's delve into the dynamics of this aspect:

Moon in the 12th House in Scorpio:

Scorpio Sign: Scorpio is a water sign associated with intensity, depth, and emotional transformation. In the 12th house, there's a theme of subconscious processes, solitude, and a connection to spirituality.

Moon in Scorpio: The Moon represents emotions, intuition, and nurturing. In Scorpio, the Moon's energy is intensified, leading to deep emotional experiences, powerful intuition, and a need for privacy.

Trine Aspect (120 degrees):

Harmony: Trine aspects signify a natural and harmonious flow of energy between the planets involved. The Moon and Venus, in this case, work together effortlessly, supporting each other's energies.

Venus in the 8th House in Cancer:

Cancer Sign: Cancer is a water sign associated with emotions, home, and nurturing. In the 8th house, there's an emphasis on shared resources, intimacy, and deep emotional connections.

Venus in Cancer: Venus represents love, relationships, and aesthetics. In Cancer, Venus expresses itself through nurturing and caring for others, forming strong emotional bonds.

Now, combining these elements:

The Moon in Scorpio in the 12th house suggests a person with intense emotional experiences, a deep connection to their subconscious, and a need for privacy. There may be a profound intuition and a desire for emotional transformation.

The trine aspect with Venus in Cancer in the 8th house indicates that the individual naturally harmonizes the nurturing and emotional qualities of the Moon with the relational and sensual qualities of Venus. The emotional depth of Scorpio is complemented by the nurturing and caring nature of Cancer.

Venus in the 8th house signifies an inclination towards deep, transformative relationships and an appreciation for the emotional richness that comes with shared experiences. Intimacy is important, and the person may find joy in connecting with others on a profound emotional level.

This aspect fosters an ease in expressing emotions, forming close bonds with others, and finding pleasure in deep, meaningful connections. The individual may have a natural charm that makes them approachable and supportive in relationships.

Overall, the Moon trine Venus in this configuration indicates a person who navigates their emotional landscape with grace, finding fulfillment in nurturing connections that go beyond the surface and embracing the transformative power of deep, emotional bonds.

Stay tune for more astro posts…

xoxo J.

[divinatorydoll]

for my fellow twelfth house moons: 🌕

the 12H is associated with the feet while the moon has much to do with sensitivity, nurturance, and vulnerability

as 12H moons, we naturally absorb a lot of energy through our feet and we are especially sensitive to the labor our feet go through in a day !! so it’s very important we take care of our feet properly

this inherent sensitivity is why 12H moons usually get sore / swollen after walking around for a seemingly “normal” amount of time

the moon also governs saltwater (remember the moon pulls the tides of the ocean), so make sure you’re taking the time to not just wash your feet, but do salt soaks for them too !!

and if it’s within your means, getting pedicures, foot massages, reflexive foot therapy, etc. is highly beneficial for us and our psychic wellbeing :)

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[linnienin]

Hey so I was wondering I have an aqua moon in 12th house & I really love Pisces moons.. can that be one indicator of attraction between both parties

🦋 A t t r a c t i o n ⁕ b e t w e e n ⁕ 1 2 h ⁕ m o o n ⁕ a n d ⁕ P i s c e s ⁕ m o o n 🦋

Hi beautiful! ✨ How are you?

Yes, that can definitely be an indicator of attraction!

Usually there's an understanding between those with a moon in a specific sign and a moon in that specific sign's ruling house.

In your case, you both share the element of water and the sign of Pisces, and specifically them influencing your moons (the deepest and most intimate part of yourselves) can generate a subconscious attraction based on a pleasant familiarity with each other.

You can have similar core values, similar taste, similar hobbies (in your case can be anything artistic and creative)

In my personal experience, i have been attracted to Scorpio moon individuals instinctively, and i have an 8th house moon (8h being ruled by Scorpio). And the connection i made with these people was always very deep and comforting.

I think this combo can create wonderful friendships that can be transformed in relationships (based on other aspects too of course)

The moon sign (pisces moon) can also feel overprotective towards the house moon (12th house moon)

I envision you two in a magical land, that's the vibe you'd give me when you're together

(Imagined you two in the Greenhouse scene from "Shadowhunters-City of Bones", Jace is the pisces moon, and Clary is the 12th house moon)

Hope you enjoyed reading this!

Have a nice day! 🦋

(Also, i temporarly closed the ask box because it was becoming a bit too much to manage haha, but once i will finish answering all requests i'll reopen it again!)

[myun-saidthoughts]

Who Feels The Effects of 8th & 12th House Synastry?

(Can also apply to someone's Pluto/Neptune harshly aspecting your inner planets)

If the person in question possess placements in Pisces, Neptune, Scorpio or Pluto, the 12th house, or the 8th house, along with having challenging aspects towards their Moon/IC/fall or detriment placements, they will more than likely sense an immediate energetic shift in your presence. While you will also feel the intensity, they are the ones profoundly affected by the energies you emanate. This can be further seen when their housing placements activate placements in your natal chart, igniting areas of heightened energy you were unaware of.

If you are the one who has these placements, then it is likely you will feel the intensity of the connection more than them, (primarily in the beginning).

That being said, someone having these placements indicates that they've experienced a harsher upbringing in their childhood. Internal struggles might have occurred where the parent(s) weren’t nurturing or emotionally/physically there. So, now when it comes to romantic partners, if the individual is not aware of their deep-rooted pain or fear of true intimacy, unwanted patterns and situations will keep repeating.

Having the Sun/Moon or many planets in the 12th house might indicate physically absent parents, the Sun represents the father and the Moon represents the mother. Having a natal 12th house Sun or Moon might showcase emotional or physical distance and connection with a parent. Emotions were under-wrapped, clear communication or understanding wasn’t a common theme in their life. Especially if the individual has multiple planets in the 12th house, having this house as a prominent influence would heighten their sensitivity to energy and emotions. Boundaries within may be blurred unaware of how one should be treated due to the lack of care they felt, and whatever planet is located in the 12th house would showcase the lack of emotional connection and theme that the individual would experience.

When it comes to natal 8th house placements, having a lot of prominent planets in this house can indicate dealing with a lot of ego deaths and rebirths for this individual. Lessons started very early for them, and loss could have been a common experience, and fear of intimacy or true vulnerability might have reigned within their veins. Often times they undergo tons of transformation because of how much trauma they might of experienced growing up (entire natal chart is needed though for this to manifest heavily). Extremes might have also been a common theme for them; where maybe the individual grew up wealthy or well off and then one day lost it all, or they had a massive family then suddenly had to move away due to unforeseen circumstances. Especially if this individual has a Water Moon with challenging aspects, their mother could have been MIA then emotionally turbulent, where she gave love one second then completely abandoned them in the next (scorpio). Or where she was overly needy/emotional making them act as a parent (cancer) or as a savior that swept anyway pain for their parent(s) (pisces), being nurtured or cared for was unlikely therefore now they might struggle with accepting true intimacy and love.

With the 8th house, there is one clear distinction compared to the 12th house, and that is the 8th house doesn't have any hidden agendas. Everything is out in the open, the good and the bad. Pain was often something that occurred in the native’s life, (depending on other factors such as the Moon’s aspects and the IC) but in general, emotions run deep, and they run outwardly, especially if the native has a water Moon, (Scorpio, Cancer or Pisces). The planet that falls in the 8th house and it's aspects would paint a better picture of how much intensity this individual would experience (more exact descriptions in my eBook)

One common theme I notice when it comes to those who deal with such intensity in this synastry; is the fact that the person who is undoubtedly going through the most pain and turmoil has unresolved parental wounds that now bleed in every relationship they enter. Either one or both parents were emotionally or physically absent, and the type of love that they were surrounded with was either cold or lacking in one area of life. The love their parents gave them was either not enough or not right. This is more true for those w a poor aspected IC/Moon/fall or detriment placements etc.

Your sole caregivers, the people who are supposed to unconditionally love, care, nurture, and choose you didn’t; and that alone brings the deepest pain you now hold. You may not even be aware of that void you possess because in intricate situations your caregivers could have been there in ways that might satisfy others, yet for your soul, that satisfaction and safety that you needed and deserved, never came. Oftentimes when the individual has heavy 8th or 12th house placements (w a poor aspected IC/Moon/fall or detriment placements etc) this also could mean having a parent that chose themselves, others, substances, situations, or opportunities over you, creating a lack of self-worth and value that you now carry.

To gain a deeper understanding of the intensity experienced through this synastry, it is crucial to first comprehend the individuals' life experiences and the circumstances they have faced. By doing so, one can better grasp the extent to which the person will be affected by this synastry. Moreover, in some extreme cases, this understanding can unveil the true origins of toxic patterns. If one is unhealed or afraid to acknowledge and let their deep rooted pain go, finding a true partner is difficult.

In extreme situations, these individuals might tell themself that it’s easier to run from real connections or partners, yet there is a part of them that is eagerly wanting a safe home. So with that, there's now a side of them that they lock and hide away, and at the core, there exists a deep-seated fear within—an apprehension of allowing someone to truly see and know the entirety of who they are.

With 8th house synastry and if you have these deep-rooted fears/abandonment wounds then this would manifest as you clinging onto this individual for dear life. They somehow become this one home you’ve always desired, and that peace you’ve always wished for now is present, but only when you’re with them. 

With 12th house synastry and if you have these deep-rooted fears/abandonment wounds, then this would make you feel safe loving someone whom you know will never truly be yours. You feel safe sitting in the area of uncertainty because accepting true real love scares you to your core.

Therefore the second you realize these individuals who touch your deepest wounds; won’t ever give you the soothing love or care you deeply wish for, the power that they have on your emotions and well-being will dissipate. They are just reflecting the pain that you now suppress from past partnerships and childhood experiences.

In my eBook, I have provided more precise definitions regarding the placements of the IC, Moon aspects, and the potential manifestations of each inner planet in the 8th or 12th house for individuals. You can find the link to my eBook pinned on my page for easy access.

[claireverything]

as a 12th houser I'm so familiar with the feeling of feeling crazy. I always feel crazy. Anytime I'm in contact with or experiencing other people, I feel crazy. No one is ever seeing things from my point of view. Ever. Not even my boyfriend, not even my family who I live with. Not even the people closest to me.

I've had to make peace with the feeling of feeling crazy because it's all I know. And time has shown me that just because I feel crazy, doesn't mean that I'm not completely accurate. The rewards I've gotten from sticking to my authentic self and moving according to my Truth-aligned values have shown me that. Just because I may look and feel crazy, doesn't mean I don't know exactly what I'm doing.

People can pontificate false truths about me all they want.

In my world, I'm perfectly sane.

[astroismypassion]

LOVE sharing my fucked up love life with you Passion!

This sag dude I am not feeling him tbh but I like the attention, I know so toxic I will tell him I don't want this situationship to go any further, but it's truly blowing my mind the amount of Capricorn moon men I encounter, most of the time they fall in my 12th and I don't see the romantic side of this house generally

I will keep you updated Passion! I really appreciate your advice and opinion here <3

Hey, kidney!

I hope all of your kidneys still function well. ;)

I totally get where you're coming from! Capricorn Moon energy have that parental, nurturing energy much like Cancer would, or you know they at least share some traits. It's like they are emotionally self-sufficient AND they want to take care of you?? I knew this one Capricorn Moon guy and I totally get the appeal. They just appear like they know what they're doing.

Ohhh. They fall into your 12th house. Yeah, I understand that now. I never had that in romantic synastry. But once I had this Virgo Sun girl with Scorpio Moon, that her Scorpio Moon fell into my 12th house and I tell you, I was not feeling this girl and she really wanted to be friends and get closer to me, I felt it was a bit annoying especially with time passing. I think why 12th Moon overlays sometimes don't work out is because your process emotion so differently that you have hard time deciphering what is it that the other person is feeling. You just can't read their emotions right with 12th house.

But I had a few chart bookings, that honestly had 12th house Moon overlay and were in a romantic partnership. And it went really successful. So maybe also sign over the 12th house helps? Like if you have Cancer, Taurus Moon in the other's Cancer, Taurus 12th house, it's more likely to be romantic? Maybe? I definitely don't see much romance when it's Scorpio, Capricorn, Aries etc. you know? But then again, what do I really know?

Oh yes, please keep me updated!

Take care until then <3,

@astroismypassion

[icyastronaut]

[imagineastrology]

[sussysluttyscorpio]

Heyy!! Also What's your thoughts on Moon Conjunct venus in 12th house Sagittarius?

Thankyou so much!

❤️

Moon Conjunct Venus in 12th House Sagittarius

~So, Moon and Venus, since they are both soft planets, signify the union of your subconscious and your materialist wants. Now, they're in the 12th house, which is the house of spirituality and hidden enemies and foreign travels, in the sign of Sagittarius which also represents spiritual beliefs, foreign travels and higher education.

~You could be very spiritual. Very devoted. Unwavering beliefs. Your spirituality is your ultimate power haha.

~You could be very artistic, or have a great imaginative power because 12th house is your subconscious mind. Maybe be very seductive too (hehe) Though I'm confused if it is a doe eyed placement or siren? I guess Siren since Capricorn is in Ascendant.

~You could be someone who loves luxuries since Venus is here. You may like to spend a lot or have difficulty saving money. You could be veryyy fond of travelling too. Travel Rodent placement lol.

~Please be conscious of addictions. Could be alcohol, caffeine, even luxuries and daydreaming. Try not to go overboard. Also, don't detach yourself from reality. You may find comfort (moon) in your addictions (Venus) which may deny you comfort of being with other people in a social structure (12th house)

~You may be secretive about things. Could be your work place stuff (6th house-work), could be your financial gains or Romantic scene (Venus), could be your mental health issues or mommy issues (if any) (Moon) Although, you may not have mommy issues. Rather it may be a very loving mom who protected you whenever she could. (Depends on the other planets aspecting it)

~Again, you may have commitment issues due to Sagittarius Venus.

~Very prone to evil eye of other. Be cautious of who you let in your inner circle. There may be many people who may be openly and secretly jealous of you, and high chance that it may either be from your work place or romantic partners :/

~Oh and REMOVE THAT ROSE TINTED GLASS WHEN LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PARTNERS. They are who they are, don't think that you're overthinking about the possible red flags in them (Neptune Effect). It is what it seems like, no doubting yourself.