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Sexism in TOS: Worst Offender, or Progressive in Retrospect in Comparison?
I see a lot of folks claim that TOS was the most sexist of the Star Trek shows by a landslide -- and while I agree that it definitely suffered from the sexism of the times, I also have other perspectives to share to give some food for thought.
I am of course not insinuating that TOS isn't sexist -- it is, but I have to ask folks to consider the breadth and depth of Berman's sexism in his run and ask yourself: Was Gene Roddenberry genuinely more sexist in his storytelling and delivery than Rick Berman?
I'm not telling you to feel one way or the other, but all I ask is that you hear me out and consider some perspectives and make your own balanced assessments. Nobody is obligated to share my opinion, but it means a lot just to have folks hear it and see their thoughts on the subject. So here is what I was originally responding to:
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Someone's response to this photo:
"Devil's advocate. This was a part of the popular form of cardio during the production time of TNG. Yes, it was heavily sexualised by men, but so is literally every other way women work out. Men have been caught taking pictures of women while trying to do dead lifts, running on tracks and working on sled machines. They post them online to share too. The fact is, there is no way a woman can be shown working out without it going there. And yeah,t hat includes the combat forms of workout they do in Star Trek. Just look at how Dax dresses when she spars with Worf. Yes, they're dating, but still, same goes when 7 does and any other female.
Aerobics routines like this were made dirty and cringy. This was what women wore then by and large. This is how the workout was done. We make it cringy."
My response to them:
"I respect your take, but I disagree on a few fronts.
The miniskirt was chosen by the TOS female cast, not the male cast, specifically requested by Grace LW and affirmed by Nichelle and Majel who would go on to vehemently defend the miniskirt over the years as comfortable and embraced by them.
Grace said it was comfortable and seen as a symbol of female sexual empowerment during the 60s and thought it would be a progressive garment (and turns out that it was, as it was later adapted and worn by male crew as a skant on TNG) -- FYI those were designed by a gay man and Gene approved them.
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This was also supposed to be Spock's TMP outfit:
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Literally lingerie.
We saw both Uhura (who saves Kirk in from Marlena Mirror Mirror) and Yeoman Landon (the first to initiate combat with a classic Kirk-esque kick to help the Captain being attacked in The Apple) carry out their combat training in their Starfleet uniforms without ever being made to change into any ridiculous workout gear.
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In fact, I'd argue Jim Kirk was sexualized even more than the ladies of the week on the show and I saw his naked body more than anyone else's on a fairly regular basis. He wore red yoga tights while topless in Charlie X while the women wore full length gymnastic suits that covered their entire body. If anything, it went out of its way to avoid sexualizing women practicing fitness in those scenes and instead focused on Kirk.
Gene confessed that he asked to have Shatner filmed in suggestive/provocative ways to "give something to the ladies", so he -- as he said -- liked to "film him walking away" or have him conveniently busting out of his shirts in just about every episode as it were, because Shatner apparently had great assets. LOL
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Gene made an effort to at least sexualize both if he was going to sexualize one, and he carried that attitude forward in wanting the m/m and f/f scenes in the background on Risa for TNG. He also insisted that the men and women wear skimpy outfits on THAT TNG planet. You know the one. LOL I mean the dudes even had on less than the women:
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Gene also gave permission to K/S shippers to have their conventions back in the 70s when he was asked for permission. Gene and Nimoy felt with all the skimpy outfits they had the ladies wear, why not let the ladies and gay men have their fun, too? It's how we ended up with moments like this:
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Yes, those are two people dressed up as Kirk and Spock's penises doing interpretive dance. Gene didn't give two damns. LOL
In my eyes, that was a very progressive take on Gene's part for the 60s. It was actually PARAMOUNT STUDIOS who had the big problem with K/S stories and vehemently tried to shut them down. Gene literally hired slash authors on his payroll and even had several slash stories/writers published in his official Star Trek books (The New Voyages & The New Voyages II).
I feel I saw Uhura and women in TOS engaged in more physical combat/altercations defending themselves that Troi or Bev were shown holding their own.
In fact, Kirk used to get furious when someone would "dress up" his female crew members without their consent (Trelane episode, Shore Leave episode) because like his male crew members, he wanted them to be treated professionally and to also have his male crew act professionally.
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Berman brought some of his own personal biases into Star Trek that in some ways regressed it. While TOS had blatant sexism and was called on it time and again, that show was made in the 60s -- a solid 21 years before TNG. We as a modern audience understood why some of it was cringe/sexist due to the time period -- look at any other media coming out in the 60s and Star Trek was miles ahead of what other shows were doing.
Compare that to Berman who was churning sexist stuff out when women like Starbuck and Scully were simultaneously on screen on other programs airing, and we had already had Sigourney Weaver and other strong women in Holywood playing respectful roles.
In my eyes, there was no need of the sexism seen in TNG but especially VOY and ENT. There was no excuse for it when other shows were writing women far better and a number of those weren't even set in the future like Trek was, making it age even faster due to having those dated perspectives frequently highlighted.
In the Center Seat documentary as well as "The Fifty Year Mission" book you will find cast members, writers and other studio alumni who attest to this. Some discussions from "The Fifty Year Mission":
"First, Berman was supposed to have been a real sleaze ball . . . According to Terry Farrel, he would go on constantly about how her breasts weren't big enough, how she should do something about it, and how his secretary was a good example to follow as she had huge breasts. She even had to have fittings to get larger bras, and that was all done at his behest.
Later Berman and Braga developed a name for Jeri Ryan's character prior Seven of Nine. They originally called the character "perineum" which if you look it up it is the area between the anus and the scrotum. Later they floated the name "6 of 9". I mean, what does it tell you about where these two were coming from in the development of this character if they had names like that put forward in all seriousness for her?"
Gene Roddenberry also had some of his own more progressive ideas for TNG cut or watered down by Berman. Roddenberry agreed TNG should have homosexual relationships and representation at a con in the 80s and insisted on it in a meeting with his writers -- something Berman later would not honor. Gene wanted the AIDS episode, showing m/m and f/f in the Riza scenes -- these were some of Roddenberry's requests to include in TNG that Berman later stonewalled.
Berman's era was sadly dated by his own misogynist bias, IMO, to the point that it can somewhat hurt the shows he worked on through his cringe egoism and blatant disrespect toward his female cast.
There is a reason why Gene could keep female actresses working with him and Berman had a revolving door of women that he couldn't seem to keep working for him -- he was abhorrent to women, on and off set. Gene wasn't perfect at all, he had a lot of issues himself -- but Berman was a whole other level. Just look at what he did to poor Jolene Blalock, Marina Sirtis and his toxic commenting on her body weight which exacerbated her struggles with eating disorders, or how he treated and talked to Terry Farrell.
Anyway, just some food for thought. I'm not saying anyone is wrong regarding a take like that, but there are a variety of ways to look at this. Gene Roddenberry isn't a saint by any means, but it definitely bothers me how folks will tote the Berman era as if it were the lesser of two evils or the more progressive depiction of women when I felt there were far more concerning portrayals of women in his era with far less justification.
(P.S: I don't event want to go near the sheer amount of "creepy old dude/villain preys on innocent/naïve/scared young woman or little girl" stories there were in Berman's era, either. But that's a whole other can of worms I can write about in a part 2.)
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sleepynegress · 8 months
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Are Yall this Gulliable??? This Leathbriar person... WHO KEEPS making these TROLL-ASS ANTI-BLACK posts about Uhura...
....That seem complimentary, but keep using words like "arrogant" and "annoying", and somehow yall are giving this person all the likes??? This is yet ANOTHER sockpoppet of this weird little troll playing "fan" of Uhura using all the racist fucking tropes. WTF??! Yall?? Just post after post and yall just liking them... without any sense of the tropes that go against black women. This is the same weirdo who called Celia Rose too masculine to play Uhura!!
Trekkies what is wrong with yall??? This is so frustrating as a black fan of Uhura, in all iterations to constantly see this troll using racist tropes and GETTING LIKES!!! by making mutiple "love" posts about Uhura but sneaking in all the racist tropes! Sneaking words like "arrogant" and "annoying" and pushy bs.... YALL NOT SEEING THIS SHIT??? YALL JUST CO-SIGNING??? .....Ninety something likes from yall???
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PLEASE.
DO.
BETTER. P.S. STOP ANSWERING anon asks about how "ugly" Celia Rose is. It's the same racist weirdo troll.
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perlukafarinn · 1 year
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Okay so I have a few experts I need to share from the story "Surprise!" by Nichelle Nichols, published in The New Voyages II in 1978.
It's about the crew throwing Kirk a surprise party, and Spock running around trying to keep Kirk from finding out (at Uhura's request), and it is bonkers. Kirk and Spock flirt so much, both with each other and also with Uhura (get it, girl!). Let's just get into it...
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Talking about birthday spankings on the second page of the story. Nichelle is not messing around.
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Then a couple of pages later, Kirk is teasingly asking Spock to tuck him in and Spock actually teases him back and then Kirk has to back down because he's not sure Spock wouldn't follow through.
Afterwards, Spock is all "phew, resisted that temptation" and talking about how his Vulcan decorum is "none too secure" when it comes to Kirk and this was published in 1978.
And then.... oh boy, I have to include this entire page and a half. I have to!
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(Scott's eyes "did not even widen" what fresh gay hell is this)
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I do not wanna know what mental gymnastics Spock performed to go from "must distract Kirk" to picking him up and carrying him around but I'm sure it was all very logical.
(Also, "Kirk whispered silkenly"? Nichelle actually writes Kirk as not only very flirty in this story but kind of seductive in an almost demure sort of way. I'm very into it)
Then later, Uhura is in Spock's cabin for plot related reasons, while Kirk is in the shared bathroom showering. And then for whatever reason
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Kirk enters Spock's cabin in nothing but a towel, still dripping wet from his shower. Is this a common occurrence????
Next is my favorite bit (aside from Spock's completely necessary and flawlessly logical decision to pick Kirk up and carry him around like his newlywed bride, of course)
Kirk and Spock are in Spock's cabin and Kirk thinks he hears something in the next room. It's Uhura and co, but since Kirk isn't supposed to know about the surprise party juuust yet, Spock goes full gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss on his ass
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Spock knows exactly which buttons to push to most effectively distract Kirk. Kirk's actually blushing and I am going insane
(1978!!!)
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That is a direct reference to Amok Time. Nichelle Nichols, you beautiful genius.
But we're not quite done!
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I just. I can't get over how obvious this is. Kirk is blushing and bashfully looking at Spock over the rim of his glass and flirting like there's no tomorrow. Insane. Insane!
In short, thank you, Nichelle Nichols for your service and thank you @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt for bringing this story to my attention.
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your-name-is-jim · 10 months
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[Kirk/Spock] My hurt/comfort fics
Hi! Here I am finally sharing 2 of my recent Kirk/Spock fics! I wrote them for Hurt/Comfort Exchange 2023 following other fans’ requests, and it was really fun! :D
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1. Back Massage
Rating: Explicit
Words: 4,649 (1/1, complete)
Fandom: TOS (post-The Motion Picture)
What it is about: Getting together, Sex pollen + Spock finally giving Kirk the back massage he deserves!
…You might or might not guess that the massage scene is not completely innocent ^_^
Warnings: I tagged it as Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings just to be safe because Kirk and Spock are both “sex pollened” (intoxicated), but other than that I promise that they both like what they do and the fic has a happy ending!
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/47835406
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2. Once a Captain, Always His Captain
Rating: Teen
Words: 2,557 (2/2, complete)
Fandom: TOS (Five-year mission + Last TOS movies era)
What it is about: Stranded on an alien planet + Spock carrying an injured Kirk to safety
Kirk asks Spock to let him die and save himself. Logically, Spock should follow his Captain’s order, but… does he really want to?
A fic with a timeskip: the first chapter takes place during the five-year mission, the other one… well, you’ll see :D
Special thanks to @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt for the beta reading!
Warnings: None
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/46785475/chapters/117839410
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Every comment is super appreciated, as well as kudos, bookmarks, reblogs/likes and every kind of feedback! Thank you so much!! ^_^
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besaya-glantaya · 1 year
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@1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt this has been in my head all day
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hope-of-enterprise · 16 days
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TAG GAME
get to know you better game! answer the questions and tag 9 people you want to know better.
last song I listened to: either "Found you" by Django Django or "Norwegian wood" by the Beatles
currently watching: Star Trek TOS (slowly and lovingly), Tatami galaxy – a good anime actually, but an unpopular one as I can see
currently reading: series of books by Max Frei, currently the "Chronicles of Echo", but I almost don't have time for that because of a list of medieval & renaissance literature I have to read. And Star Trek novels are waiting on my shelf patiently :')
currently obsessed with: Star Trek is constantly in my mind and I don't want to change that. Additionally I'm kinda obsessed with collecting stuff related to it. Lately I've also done a small research on the 60s fashion being inspired by the said show.
Some games are not my obsession but important enough to me, like Disco Elysium, Hello Charlotte. I also like Daedalic Entertainment's point and click games (that's if one certain person wants to know. Edna and Harvey is my fav :з)
favorite color: I'll probably never deside that, but let's assume it's blue or green
tagged by: @longcatspock. Thanks, I didn't expect it, that's sweet of yours :)
tagging: @cursedtrekedits @frogayyyy @stellarbluegalaxy @rsclopez @arttsuka @gglinaa @thedeepgreensea @favvn @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt
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celestialvoyeur · 5 months
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💛💙SPIRK FIC REC💙💛
Who doesn’t love a good body swap fic?? 😁
After sharing some very bizarre dreams following the drama of Pon Farr and their trip to Vulcan, Spock and Jim wake one morning to find that they’ve swapped bodies.
This SNW/TOS fic is a lot of fun and doesn’t take itself too seriously. As the author describes, it’s “Hilarity and (NSFW) hijinks... Absolute fanservice tomfoolery” enjoy! 😉
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Visited a local antiques place, found this in the basement
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Why on God's green earth is kirk twice as wide as he should be
Here's Kirk's section, longest of any entry at three pages. Fun fact! In his "known relatives" section, seven of the eight names listed are dead (:
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Clearly this is written before the tng movies were being considered, since his entry has a happy ending exploring on the enterprise again! @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt I believe you were confused about a second five year mission? It's referenced here as well
And... oh
What's this?
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Gee, thanks (:
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herself-nyc · 1 year
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WIP tag game
RULES: post the names of all the files in your WIP folder regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. Let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them, and then post a little snippet of it or tell them something about it.
I was tagged by @twinkboimler ! Thanks!
Happy to share more details if anyone wants to hear them!
So, I only have 2 WIPs going now:
--Reservations
--Untitled Post-Miramanee Fic
I’ll tag @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt
@thetimetostrikeislater, @uss-genderprise, @ghostofasimov, @pkrosche
 and anyone else who wants to participate, feel free to say I tagged you!
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Today on popping the corn and feeding the children, what do you folks think of this discussion? :)
I'm always curious to hear what other Trek fans, especially queer Trek fans, think about our place in Trek history and how we fare as the queer participants within our fandom. What have your experiences been like?
Overwhelmingly I've found a great reception and a welcoming attitude, but I admit that has increased considerably since the 90s. However, there are still some Trek fans who seem to be vehemently in denial about queer history in Star Trek, or the fact that anyone who has worked on Trek has pro-LGBT attitudes. This always surprises me considering some of the blatant queer content we have already seen in Star Trek such as the Jadzia Dax and Lenara Kahn kiss.
Anyway, I enjoyed the discussion that followed and seeing the overwhelming outpouring of support coming from Star Trek fans in response to this thread.
Here was my two cents contribution:
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"No, what they said was factual.
Have you forgotten Nichelle Nichols was indeed an African American woman in the core seven bridge crew back in 1966?
Or the fact that Gene Roddenberry went out of his way to write The Motion Picture Novel, creating the term "T'hy'la: friend, brother, lover" so that fans could choose which interpretations of Kirk and Spock they saw fit? He also embraced K/S fans and hired a number of them to write the earliest Star Trek novels, including the very first official one (The New Voyages Vol. 1 & 2) which included slash fiction as well as Gene's approval/forward in the books.
In case anyone has forgotten, here's a little bit of background on Gene Roddenberry and his perspectives on queerness in Star Trek.
He admitted that in his early life he was very affected by how society and culture treated the LGBT community, and that he too found himself subjugating and judging others for that lifestyle because it was what people did at that time. As he got older and had more life experience, he began working with a number of queer artists in Hollywood -- and through TOS, a number of queer individuals began asking questions about Kirk and Spock.
Instead of vehemently shutting down this perspective, Roddenberry was intrigued, and saw potential to tap into a large audience (LGBT) that most others didn't want to go near or acknowledge publicity-wise. He saw it as an opportunity to expand the fanbase while also pushing yet another envelope.
But with the heat already on the show for what they'd already pushed, he found he was often stuck between what he'd like to do and what production would let him get away with. There are a number of Kirk and Spock scenes in scripts that got cut out for leaning a little too obviously romantic. Tiny trickles of that content still made it in were infamous moments like the backrub scene in Shore Leave. Even the 2009 movie had a K/S moment while Spock Prime and Kelvin Spock talked that was written and filmed that was cut out of the final product.
Queer subtext and coding has always been relentlessly weeded away at with an excuse ready to go for why they always try to cut us out, but we all know it's because they are scared of the homophobic backlash and ratings hits. Look how violently homophobes went after the gay romance episode of The Last of Us **just this year**. This has always been our reality, so for someone like Roddenberry to make efforts in the 70s? That was massive.
But Gene as well as the queer/slash Trek community managed to accomplish some things in the 70s which I'm surprised more folks don't talk about or give much credit.
In the same TMP novel which features "T'hy'la" and the famous footnote, Gene cleverly wrote Kirk with a bisexual/pansexual lens: Kirk describes himself as *preferring* women but being open to "physical love in **any** of its many Earthly, alien, and mixed forms." (Direct quote from Genes book). Basically, Captain Kirk was DTF with whoever if there was a connection, which was a very progressive take for a character in a novel written in 1979, but made sense for the future which would have a lot less hang ups about sex and love compared to our current rather puritan/conservative society.
I also prefer women, but I married a man. Shout out to Gene Roddenberry for giving us a seat at the table back in the 70's when folks *still* try to insist there is no place for K/S or queer concepts in Trek, because he made efforts -- however small -- to employ queer people and show queer perspectives. According to David Gerrold, LGBT+ representation was a big thing that Gene personally pushed for in TNG and wanted various depictions of love/couples in the Risa scenes, to name one example.
In the 70s, fanzines led to meetings and swapped fanmade magazines, which got so big that they needed hotel centers, then convention centers, then one day the TOS cast came to one and what we know as modern fan conventions were born -- inspiring even George Lucas who attended Trek conventions in the 70s and saw how popular Trek was in syndication; it was a great climate to launch his Space Opera. Star Wars then became so huge that we got TMP.
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But none of that would have happened without the level of organization, passion, and creativity that those fans poured into Star Trek and their characters after it got cancelled and went into syndication.
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Without queer folks we wouldn't have George Takei, Theodore Sturgeon who gave us Tribbles, Bill Theiss and his amazing TOS costumes, Mike Minor's art direction, Merritt Butrick, David Gerrold (writer for TOS, TAS, TNG) to name a few of many queer contributors to Trek that Roddenberry respected and tried to go to bat for wherever he could in a climate that was absolutely impossible to gain an inch in.
At a time during the 70s and 80s when so many people resented and feared the queer community and wanted us to disappear, especially in the 80s during the AIDS epidemic which many homophobes claimed was "God's punishment to the gay community" or "Gods's answer" to our "hedonism", thinking we'd gotten our just desserts and should just disappear . . .
During that time, Gene Roddenberry gave us queer folks a place to say: "You know what? Sure. Write your stories. TV says you guys shouldn't exist, they pull books with queer people off the shelves and burn them. Laws exist specifically to forbid you guys from loving each other, and call you mentally ill. You can't even hold hands in public. But I'm going to validate you guys and invite you to write novels or work for me, try to see what we can get by production, and allow you to see yourselves in my characters if you want to. There's a place for you in our fandom."
He gave us bi/pan Kirk, he gave us K/S is open to interpretation. In Phase 2 Kirk's surviving nephew Peter, son of his brother Sam from Operation: Annihilate!, was going to be written as gay and living on the Enterprise with his partner -- that also got chopped and reworked into a script that wouldn't get used until decades later. That was huge at a time that being queer was officially listed as a mental illness, and villainized due to the AIDS crisis.
So before you try to dismiss or tell K/S + queer Trek fans whether or not they deserve a seat at the table, remember that Gene Roddenberry was among the **first** to pull that seat out for us in a climate that was ruthlessly against LGBT+ folks." -- 1Shirt2ShirtRedShirtDeadShirt
P.S: Have some cute bisexual/pansexual K/S pride gifs. :) Pride month is a hop, skip and a jump away.
LLAP!🖖💚
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tinyferalbeing · 1 year
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I was tagged by my fellow brokeback friend @minncoe thank u ♡ (tag 9 people you want to get to know better) here's my answers !
3 ships : my current top 3
Kirk and Spock (Star Trek) my space fathers, my comfort characters, me and my dad's favorite serie that we keep on rewatching since 2019, you get it. they're extremely important and meaningful to me 💛 the most husband's of husband's out there
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Jack and Ennis (Brokeback Mountain) they're on my mind and in my thoughts everyday,, it still baffles me that after 7 months i have not moved on an inch away from them. my heart will forever be playing The Wings.. I think they mean the world to me. their bond / love is like no other
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Din and Luke (Star Wars) art by @pridoo ♡ these two make me emotional in a certain way!! It's going to be 1 year since I found out about this special ship. there's something so comforting about their relationship.. thinking about them always fills my chest with warmth,,,
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First ship : Zayn and Liam (One Direction) I was 9 years old when I found out men could be in love with each other ! me and my big sister just got into 1D and she clearly told me zayn and liam had a thing– to witness sO many suspicious moments,, what a time. it surely was an experience I'll never forget
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Last song : First love by Utada Hikaru. ༼⁠;⁠´⁠༎ຶ⁠ ⁠۝ ⁠༎ຶ⁠༽ "yOU ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE MY LOVE" !!!!! this song was made to break hearts and to personally murder mine. I'm a sucker for love songs,,
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Last movie : Star Wars IX Rise of Skywalker. finally got to watch it!! I really enjoyed it :]
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Currently reading : Kilari. my childhood animeee T0T💞 and one of my favorites! i want to finish reading the manga but I want to watch the entire anime so bad too!!! cuz I've never seen every episode~
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Currently watching : Ouran high school host club. I'm at the 5th episode and i love it so much. it was in my to watch list since last year and I wanted to fall into a unique anime and it was exactly what I needed! >.o👍🏻
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Currently consuming : last consumed a yogurt
Currently craving : vanilla milkshaaaake
taggiiiing : @mon-masu @k-ky @lonesome-dreamsss @wwapich @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt @ciel019
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ao3feed-spirk · 1 year
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The Honeymoon Period
read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/43294524
by 1Shirt2ShirtRedShirtDeadShirt
After the events of Search For Spock and The Voyage Home, Kirk wants to make sure that his husband and bondmate Spock remembers their most cherished memories.
This collection will be a series of memories that Kirk chooses to revisit with Spock, ensuring Spock's katra and memory restoration hasn't stolen any precious recollections from the Vulcan.
These events transpired between them as an established couple, post-The Motion Picture events onward (second five year missions, first shakedown mission (post ST: IV), Starfleet professor era stories).
A feel-good serotonin boost in the form of reflections shared between Kirk and Spock about their relationship, taking place during "the honeymoon period". A mix of sweet (fluff/feels) and salty (sexy/hot) snapshots in time.
Words: 4263, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Star Trek, Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (TV)
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: M/M
Characters: Kirk, Spock, James T. Kirk, Spock (Star Trek), Sarek, Amanda, OC - Character, Leonard "Bones" McCoy, Nyota Uhura, Pavel Chekov, Montgomery "Scotty" Scott, Hikaru Sulu
Relationships: James T. Kirk/Spock, James T. Kirk & Spock, Kirk/Spock, K/S, Spirk - Relationship
Additional Tags: Romance, Fluff, lots and lots and lots of fluff, Sentimental, post TMP, the second five year mission, The lost years, Established Relationship, Porn with Feelings, spirk, k/s - Freeform, kirk/spock - Freeform, old married spirk, Character Study, Dorks in Love, Married Couple, Married Life, LGBTQ Themes, Soulmates, Pon Farr, Academy Era, Academy Professors, This Simple Feeling, Feels, Passion, Vulcan, Vulcans, Funny, Comedy, Romantic Comedy, Feel-good, feel-good vibes, Idiots in Love, bondmate, bondmates, T'hy'la, Mind Meld, Vulcan Mind Melds, Vulcan Biology, Vulcan Kisses, Vulcan Bond, Vulcan Culture, IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations), Sex, Tenderness, Old Married Couple, Silly, Cute, they've earned this happiness, Domestic Fluff, Domestic Bliss, Mild Angst, Happy Ending, serotonin boost
read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/43294524
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superwholockian93 · 1 year
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Updates from The Eclipse Talk (including P'Golf, P'Yokee, P'Prapt) about Kanthua/Neolouis:
1. P'Aof directly casted Neolouis along with First Khaotung without any auditions (actually, they were already looking for scripts for them so P'Prapt wrote the novel, KT sent photos of his tattoos to P'Aof etc etc)
2. Kanlong was the most difficult character for the author to write (Akk being the easiest because the novel version is just like the author) because he was a bit cartoonish/manga/anime-like with his nature (the show doesn't really do justice to that side of it)
3. Because Neo asked for his character to be serious, the staff accommodated and the writer also wrote back stories for Kanthua in the series
4. Due to Neolouis' acting and chemistry, a lot of their romantic scenes were improvised on set (they're not in the scripts!) and therefore, increased. (Louis said this in an interview and I cannot recall if this was mentioned in today's talk?😂 Sorry 😂)
5. This is definitely mentioned in the novel but because they also asked will say - Kan means horny; his name is actually just Long so his name means "Horny Long"
6. Oh, Kan doesn't actually have internalised homophobia. He is just afraid to confess to a friend
7. Edited: They said acting for Louis was a bit of a challenge because of the difficult nature of Thua's character
(Will post about First - Khaotung in sometime)
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The Adam Project is about a teen Ryan Reynolds who has two sets of parents - his actual parents and Future Him & Future Him’s Wife
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I hope there's enough noise on Twitter that Disney notices we want Cody in season 2 and then they give us a variation of that script
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Part 2 of the Eclipse Talk:
1. GMMTV was already looking to cast First Khaotung as a couple; they were waiting for the right script makes sense cuz they've been shipped off screen for far longer and GMMTV usually gets pairs with good chemistry and years long friendship
2. P'Prapt (the writer) was actually commissioned to write a bl novel in a school setting with political inclinations - the rest of it is his inspiration
3. His inspiration besides 1984 was Love, Simon because of the coming off age/self discovery thing
4. P'Aof (Director of Bad Buddy/ATOTS) was given the script and directly asked the 4 main leads to be casted and asked Khaotung if he had tattoos - all the tattoos in the series are his own
5. KT has a harder time to get out of the character and leaned more into the Ayan being depressed thing unlike the novel
6. The author came up with their MBTIs on spot. I think Akk was INFP. Not sure on this one
7. The staff really wanted to make sure that the show was queer friendly and felt inclusive to people of other races too (like in the café scene)
8. Unlike other Bls, they didn't want to waste time on the characters dwelling on having feelings for people of the same gender - they're all comfortable with the sexualities but hindered by their respective problems/nature
9. The ultimate message of the show isn't just about self acceptance in terms of sexual orientation or gender but just coming into terms with who you are (for example, Wat, Sani) and being true to yourself and accepting who you are
(If I recall anything else, will add later)
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My #1 post of 2022
When Morpheus stomps away and we have Hob waiting for him, playing songs with the lyrics "she drives me crazy", waiting for her, moving on, one after the other was sure a choice.
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My Kirk/Spock fic - Post-TMP, Wedding & Adventure
AAAHH FINALLY I can talk about the story I wrote! ❤️ Some of you probably spotted it on AO3 when it was anon in the exchange collection, but now authors have been revealed :D
Title: But I Will Wed Thee in Another Key
Words: 22,075 (complete)
Summary: After getting the Enterprise back for a second five-year mission, all James T. Kirk wants to do is marry his First Officer and have a great wedding night. Too bad a group of Romulan extremists has different plans.
Rating: Explicit (18+ only please)
Sooo, I have worked on this fic an embarrassing amount of time -- weeks of writing, canon review, research on Star Trek lore and research on weddings -- and I poured into it all my love for Star Trek TOS and Kirk/Spock. I hope you’ll be able to see it! ❤️ I think the result ended up being a pretty canon-typical episode… plus the explicit gay stuff going on, as a treat. :D
I'd really love to know what you all think about this story, so every comment is super appreciated, as well as kudos/bookmarks on AO3 and likes/reblog here. I hope you’ll enjoy reading about these two guys becoming space husbands as much as I enjoyed writing about them! ❤️
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/44590852
Special thanks to @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt for the beta reading and all the support! Also thank you so much to my recipient and all the people who showed their love for this story when it was still anon! ❤️
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I posted 3,491 times in 2022
That's 3,491 more posts than 2021!
8 posts created (0%)
3,483 posts reblogged (100%)
Blogs I reblogged the most:
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I tagged 364 of my posts in 2022
#star trek tos - 99 posts
#star trek - 96 posts
#spock - 73 posts
#spirk - 66 posts
#jim kirk - 28 posts
#star trek strange new worlds - 27 posts
#tos - 26 posts
#leonard mccoy - 19 posts
#kirk - 17 posts
#star trek enterprise - 17 posts
Longest Tag: 140 characters
#isn't it like the recommended first episode if you don't count the pike episode (which you shouldn't watch because you'll get to see it late
My Top Posts in 2022:
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Tumblr why do you keep copying everyone else’s tags on my reblogs?
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The Star Trek discord server I am in has determined that Solkar was trans- therefore I had to make this ugly subpar edit
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Made a gif for fun
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One of the gayest lines in history. 🖖🏽
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Meta Monday
I just started volunteering for @zinedom​​, a project dedicated to helping fanzine authors bring their fanfiction online to the next generation of fans. If you’re interested in helping to preserve fandom history, or to read the fics they’ve digitized, please check them out! 
Naturally, with fandom history my mind, this week's meta recommendations had to be about Star Trek and "the premise”; the Kirk/Spock premise, that is. Enjoy! There’s something here for you whether you’re a reboot fan new to the original series or a lifelong Trekkie. 🖖
Star Trek - Kirk/Spock
#that’s not friendship spock that’s a boner by @aldora89-blog, Okay, so there are a couple different levels to this (yes I am seriously turning a joke tag into meta). (Mirror Link)
[VIDEO] Are They Gay? Kirk and Spock by AreTheyGay, A video series tackling the one question facing many same-sex couples throughout history: Are They Gay? In this episode we explore the relationship between Kirk and Spock, a subject of much debate. Do you think they're gay?
The Conscience of the King by @1shirt2shirtredshirtdeadshirt, Or as I like to call it, jealous Spock, jealous Spock, holy fucking jealous Spock. That’s gonna be my focus, so turn back now while you can. This is a God damn behemoth. I can’t take it back now. I am frothing at the mouth here. I am gargling on my oatmeal with how possessive Spock is throughout this whole episode. (Mirror Link)
“Hamlet” in Space, & How It Proves K/S by @capt-sulu​, “The Conscience of the King” is a Season One TOS episode based on Shakespeare’s Hamlet, best known for being the Tarsus IV episode. In it, Jim Kirk is forced to confront a face from his past, Kodos the Executioner, who executed half of the colony Tarsus IV due to a famine that threatened the entirety. (Mirror Link)
He Looks at Him Like He Holds His Whole Damn Universe (He Is His Whole Universe) - Part 1 & Part 2 by @picturelyuniverse, For purely scientific reasons, I will now endeavour to compile a set of photos detailing Jim’s Gaze of Love™ directed at *drumrolls please* Spock throughout the course of just one movie, ST: The Voyage Home (mostly also because if I were to include the original TV series and other movies, this post would probably implode). (Mirror Links 1 + 2)
How to upset Gene Roddenberry & This is a personal story about Gene Roddenberry by @spockslash*, [...] Didn’t bat an eye at a fairly graphic description of Jim and Spock having sex — but boy was he upset about those buttons! (Mirror Links 1 + 2)
Kirk/Spock Moments List by @winnifredburkle, An incomplete list of Jim Kirk and Spock being totally Extra with each other. (Mirror Link)
[VIDEO] Kirk & Spock Fandoms’ First Couple? by Shippers Guide to the Galaxy, Kirk and Spock are two of the most iconic characters out there, and their presence in fandom has had lasting impacts on modern fan culture. Just what is it about these two that led fans to pair them in droves from the 60s onwards? Dive into ShippersGuideToTheGalaxy and get to know the ship known as K/S.
This Simple Feeling by @spockfallsinlove, Ok maybe I’m reaching here but you know how V’ger was looking for that meaning beyond knowledge, was doing that whole trip through space to figure it out and then Spock, after that epic mind-meld, is like ‘oh yeah it can’t find an answer because it doesn’t comprehend this simple feeling’ while clutching James T 'Ripped Shirt' Kirk’s hand? (Mirror Link)
Vulcan Mind Meld - Analysis Parts 1 – 5 & Conclusion by @pywren, Fellow Trekkies who got to know me a bit are very aware that I’m fascinated by the way the Vulcan mind works. Especially the way temporary links and more permanent bonds are created. Thus it should surprise no one that I am obsessed with the mind link between Jim and Spock that, thanks to Gene Roddenberry, is very much canon (more about that later). Because of this I’ve decided to take a closer look at the times Spock melded with his captain throughout the five year mission. (Mirror Links 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
What is, in your opinion, the episode where Spock and Kirk show the most concern about one another? by @plaidshirtjimkirk​​, I’m unfit to answer this question because this is a thing that happens constantly and it’s all so meaningful and I. Okay. Okay fine. Here’s some evidence, which isn’t even all of it. You decide. (Mirror Link)
*Dee, also known as Fandom Grandma, passed away this past February. If you weren’t familiar with her blogs, you owe it to yourself to browse for a while. They’re wonderful archives of fandom history, stories, and some amazing NSFW art. I’m in no way exaggerating or joking when I say literally goals. 
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