#80's terry silver

[terrence-silver]

Does Terry (any era) do anything in particular when beloved tries the "not tonight, dear, I have a headache" line to get away from his incessant libido?

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― Twig is genuinely worried about his partner and their headache, possibly blowing the issue out of proportion to some degree or other; he's genuinely out here to fix it, though. Make it better. Give them medication. Bring up a glass of water to their mouth like they're a child. Latching unto them. Incessantly inquiring if they need anything --- if he could possibly do anything to help them. Fussing around them. Worrying. Overworrying and overthinking it, even. He'd devotedly adjust the pillow under their head and tucks them in with a blanket, if need be, so they could be as comfortable as humanly possible. Anything beloved needs, always. There's still something weirdly boyish and innocently childlike to a young Terry's loyalty, regardless if this is him before Vietnam or after it. He wants to do good and right by the people he cares for and this is evident in his acts of service that just beam through him at times. For some reason, I just imagine Terry laying down beside beloved on the bed, on his side, facing them and giving them a worried puppy look, outright waiting for their headache for pass diligently and frequently asking if it eased up at all, setting aside how turned on and frisky he might be. In fact, he could very well wait all night and just not sleep. Long after beloved's dozed off with exhaustion, Twig is still there, eyes open, watching them and acting as their personal guard, hoping they're better now or at least will be once they wake up, when it's fully evident he'll continue fussing tomorrow as well and possibly in the days that follow too. Best not tell him anything aches, regardless if it's true or a lie because he'll truly take the problem to heart as much as a person can take a problem to heart and he won't rest until it's fixed.

― Terry Silver in the 80's is going to tell beloved sex cures headaches. No. Really. It does. Didn't they hear? He'll tell them this and he won't even bat an eye even as he says it. An orgasm releases the tension from the muscles, opens pores, strengthens the core, relieves the chakras, turns the skin elastic and shiny, heightens serotonin receptors and makes the head feel light and easy. It overall tends to fix one's mood too. Has one living longer. Terry has his manipulation down to a science; beloved's being had, but my god if this man won't be capable of going to exact detail and making his reasoning on why he'll fuck beloved in spite of their headache sound outright logical to the degree they might even consider it, because they way he phrases it...well, it sounds so reasonable and believable, doesn't it? Might just convince them it's precisely because they ain't having sex five times a day that they're having a headache in the first place seeing as how it's one of the body's prime necessities in life, much like food and water. This is just their physique telling them they lack something and that something's him, of course. No use in fighting it. It's not Terry Silver saying this. It's natural instinct. Duh! By the end of it, he'll outright philosophize beloved into sex and giving him what he wants, when he wants it, headache or no headache. If it miraculously stops hurting once he's done he'll use that as a testament to the fact he was right, as always. Beloved might even thank him and he'll relish taking the gratitude, acting a bit humble even as he eats it up. If it doesn't stop hurting, he'll just multitasking by phoning Margaret into calling over a doctor while he prepares for the next round with beloved meantime.

― Old man Terry might just openly call out beloved on their trick with zero hesitation and a smile plastered all over his face, saying something of the likes of 'You're really gonna use the headache excuse on me?' maybe adding something in the nature of 'You can do a lot better than that.' because thing is, at this stage in his life, Terry might just be more blunt and no-nonsense than he's ever been before. Of course beloved's attempts amuse him. Of course he sees it as a challenge fuel. As an excuse to toy with them even further. An invitation, of sorts, to do what he wants anyway and break down their barriers. A game of sorts. Of course he's unfettered. Entertained. But, simultaneously, he'll fully and entirely let beloved know that he knows, that in fact, there's nothing that ails them and they're simply, for the lack of a better word, bullshitting him. Makes him wonder why, though. Has he been exhausting them? Now there's a thought that makes his ego swell even further and having him want to just downright break them. Or is it something that could blindside him and this is one of many signs that they're trying to put distance between him and themselves, because things like this...they always start out small. As small as a headache and saying 'no' to sex. The devil's in the details. And ah --- there it is. Now it stopped being quite so amusing. Terry's glee can very quickly turn sour as he overthinks and takes the rejection to heart, letting his own thoughts pollute him and conjure up prospects of betrayal when there are none. Don't you want him anymore? Paranoia running rampant, man can go anywhere from hitting the bottle, to grieving, to genuinely keeping an eye out for you and taking precautions in case you're planning to leave him.

[k-i-l-l-e-r-b-e-e-6-9]

“The Silver Citadel”, Anthony Horowitz, 1987. Illustrated by Terry Oakes.

[geekcavepodcast]

"DC Finest" Collections to Focus on Characters and Genres

DC Comics has announced DC Finest, a new set of large-size paperback collections that will focus on characters, genres, and periods in the DC library. For example, a "Robin" collection or "Green Lantern" collection may feature multiple characters who have donned the mantles.

The first DC Finest collections include:

"DC Finest – The Flash: The Human Thunderbolt - classic adventures of Silver Age Flash Barry Allen by John Broome and Carmine Infantino, including 1956’s iconic Showcase #4 and stories that include the first appearances of Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Gorilla Grodd, and other Flash rogues.

DC Finest – Batman: Year One & Two - collects stories set after Crisis on Infinite Earths like Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli's Batman: Year One and Mike W. Barr and Todd McFarlane's Batman: Year Two in addition to ’80s Batman stories from Barr, Max Allan Collins, Norm Breyfogle, and more.

DC Finest – Wonder Woman: Origins & Omens - "spotlights fan-favorite writer Gail Simone’s run on Wonder Woman, starting with 2007’s “The Circle,” with artist Terry Dodson, plus celebrated story arcs “Ends of the Earth,” “Rise of the Olympian,” and “Warkiller,” featuring art by Aaron Lopresti." (DC Comics)

DC Finest – Catwoman: Life Lines - collects "Catwoman’s 1989 solo debut by Mindy Newell and J.J. Birch, Peter Milligan and Tom Grindberg’s Catwoman Defiant from 1992, and the first year of DC’s Catwoman ongoing series, by writer Jo Duffy and artist Jim Balent." (DC Comics)

DC Finest – Superman: The Coming of Superman - collects "the Man of Steel’s earliest and most iconic adventures, starting with Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster’s groundbreaking Action Comics #1." (DC Comics) The collection also includes Action Comics #1-25, Superman #1-5, and New York World’s Fair Comics #1.

(Image via DC Comics - Promo Picture for DC Finest)

[yenforfairytales]

Terry Silver has a lot of enemies, being the type of man he is (also: money)…but his Number One Enemy isn’t Kreese. It’s Bruce Springsteen. How dare this skinny punk bitch dad-rock loser have first place in Danny boy’s heart?! Why does Daniel love him so much? Why does he wear t-shirts with his stupid face on it and him along to his corny lyrics??

Daniel:…You need to calm down.

Terry: 🔥 🔥 🔥

Daniel: Omg

Daniel walking around like this and driving Terry crazy

Really, Danny boy? Why don't you just tattoo his face on your ass? No, wait-- don't do that!!!!!

Terry thinks it's cute in the beginning that Daniel has all of Springsteen's records and knows all the words to his songs - Daniel knows all the words to any song - until Terry helps Daniel unpack from moving into his mansion and uncovers a box full of posters and tshirts.

Daniel: Careful with those. Oh, hey! I used to hang that one over my bed.

Terry: Which one--

Daniel:

Terry: ................Trash. TRASH. INTO THE FIRE.

Daniel: Terry, no! Get back here!!

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From that day forward, a day that will live in infamy, Bruce is Enemy Number One. Enemy of the State. The Silver Estate to be exact. Top of The Shit List. That's right, Terry has one.

He could've never guessed that his most dangerous rival doesn't even know karate.

He can't escape him. It's the 80's. Springsteen is still... The Boss.

Terry's tempted to use his connections to get this greasy wannabe outta the mainstream, maybe cause an accident, but he's above this. Daniel is his. He has no reason to be insecure ha ha

Unless--

No no no. Ridiculous. He's Terry Fucking Silver. He can live with this.

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They're on the couch one evening, looking through photo albums. Daniel loves to scrapbook and put them together. Terry never cared for this kind of thing, his memories not so fond and his family not so warm.

But Daniel puts them together so lovingly and sweet who wouldn't want to flip through a few. They do look good together.

Terry picks up an older album from Daniel's childhood

Daniel: Aww, man, look at these. I went through such a Springsteen phase. I wanted to be him so bad.

Terry: *schooling his features to keep from seething*

Terry: Just a phase, huh? You never take photos like that for me.

Daniel: Yeah, I realized I'd never be as cool as him, ya know?

Terry: Ah--

Daniel: He's still the best, though. Nobody wears jeans like him.

Daniel: Terry? Are you okay? Babe! Breathe!!!

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Terry sits with his arms and legs crossed. Somehow simultaneously pouting and glowering.

His sweet, gentle Danny boy has been pacing and ranting for over an hour.

Daniel: Why can't I go to the concert, huh?! What's the big deal?? You can't tell me what to do!!

Terry: Why don't you want to stay home with me??? I can sing too, Daniel! I can sing!

Daniel: ....whAT?

Terry: I could sing better than that prick AND play the piano while I do it!

Daniel: I didn't know you could sing. :D

Terry: *turning pink* Well... you never asked.

Daniel: Okay, let's hear it. Sing me a song. :3

Terry: What, now??

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Daniel brags at length to anyone who will listen that his multi-talented boyfriend sings to him on the regular.

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Daniel catches on eventually.

Miss Margaret may or may not have left a certain list out for him to find.

But his Boss tshirts always ending up at the bottom of the laundry would have tipped him off.

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Terry's at his desk in Dynatox HQ when he gets a large envelope signed from Daniel.

Inside is a photograph of his beautiful boy just for him, according to the note inside.

He pockets the note and keeps the photo on his desk for years.

Okay. So maybe, once in a while, a supervised Springsteen concert can be tolerated. VIP seating.

Maybe.

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It's always a touchy subject and the grandchildren know not to trigger grandad. But one crisis at a time.

Terry: Please. That was decades ago. I bet he looks like a bloated bald--

Daniel: Have you seen Bruce lately?

Terry: What do you mean.

Daniel:

Terry: MOTHERFUCK--

[landslided]

Honestly one of the things that fascinates me about Cobra Kai is how Daniel's perception of what Johnny thinks colors the way he reacts towards Johnny.

The way he greets him in the dealership makes it clear that he still thinks of Johnny as a kind of archetype. And obviously a lot of the show is about them getting past that and learning to know each other as adults, or is in the ideal version in my head, lol.

But I would like the moment when Daniel's perception flips and he sees Johnny in another light, with another label attached:

Bisexual, mentally ill sex worker with substance abuse problems and C-PTSD from being groomed as a child soldier in a cult.

i feel everyone on tumblr has decided to send me anons that appeal to me particularly because OUUUUGH anon, i am SUCH a fan of this.

i also love to explore daniel’s perception of johnny and by extension, himself through johnny because i think sometimes when daniel realizes that johnny isn’t the fully fledged villain or at least an archetype he has imagined in his head, he has to take a moment and shift his gaze onto himself.

we have a bit of a moment like this in S1Ep9 (different but the same my absolute beloved) when daniel learns that johnny’s dad wasn’t around and that laura married sid. you can see the gears shift in his head and think "oh… maybe there is more to this than i thought" and johnny has those same moments with speedwagon (which, is less deep than daniel’s realization but an important one of oh maybe we do have stuff in common that isn’t just our past).

i also think johnny in the show is more open to having his perception of daniel shifted because he does not have the same trauma attached to daniel. obviously, it’s pretty normal of daniel to be mistrustful of johnny because well, he was his high school bully who made his life hell, but i think there’s also a special brand of i can’t trust anyone and everybody is exactly how i see them philosophy that is a legacy of what terry silver has done to daniel. and when robby manages to make his way into daniel’s life and his trust and then is found out to have lied, daniel completely breaks down and has a reaction to robby (a kid) that feels just too much for the situation at hand.

also, if you, like me, love to read daniel as repressed in his sexuality (because hello guy from the 80´s and also once again, he was betrayed by silver and i don’t even mean this in a silverusso way but in a oh i can’t trust anyone with parts of myself because they could use it against me way) then there is a layer to daniel’s refusal to see johnny differently that is i think a way to protect himself and his own vision of himself and his desires.

i… love daniel larusso so much. he is such a complex mess of a character who believes himself to NOT be a mess and that’s what makes it so delicious to me.

but god, yes. bisexual, mentally ill sex worker johnny with substance abuse problems and C-PTSD, like, it’s not that far off from what he is in canon! we just put the actual words on it! (i could also go on a full tangent about sex worker johnny and the clues we have of that past in the show but i won’t here). i think if daniel ever learned about any of this in any capacity his brain would shut down for a least three to four business days before he tried to be aggressively supportive and johnny would find it unbearable. (i would like to see it)

[senka-mesecine]

Season 6 Predictions

― Johnny, Daniel and Mike Barnes show up to the birth of Carmen’s baby late, drunk, dishevelled and hitchhiked home by someone who picked them up from (throws dart of randomness) stuffing the slots of an arcade machine with gummy bears. It is played off as a joke.

― John Kreese who has freshly broken out of jail and a Terry Silver currently in jail (perhaps after his own break out) simultaneously want to kidnap the newborn Jarmen baby. John, so he’d draw Johnny out. Terry, because he has an inexplicable case of the Empty Nest Syndrome.

― Miguel and Robby have a bonding montage where they take better care of their new half-sibling (a little girl named Laura) than either Carmen or Johnny who are off having 80′s theme cosplay sex montages lit in all neons (possibly off making another baby). 

― We get a Fast and Furious style Barbeque cookout where the word ‘family’ is uttered a lot, and for some reason, this family consists of everyone who’s ever tried to kill, maim or seriously injure Daniel Larusso, respectively. Nobody finds this strange whatsoever.

― Kim Da-Eun is for some reason treated like a respected Sensei around The Valley bringing a traditional spin on Martial Arts, clearing her grandfather’s name and legacy from being tarnished and people seem to forget she was right beside Terry Silver torturing and abusing students.

― We don’t get one pregnancy storyline, we get three for all the heroes, because Amanda and Daniel are expecting too (leading to some discourse and arguing between them), and so is a now wheel-chair bound, recovering Chozen and Kumiko. Someone pulls a ‘you’re named after the greatest man I know’ by naming a baby after Daniel.

― Betsy shows up like a sexy, shimmering, wispy ghost to go like ‘John, don’t do it. You are better than this.’ whenever John goes around doing typically John things,being absolutely NOT better than this.

― The plot has no clue what to do with Sam, Tory, Kenny, Hawk, Moon, Demetri, Yasmine, or anyone, so they collectively have a montage of driving around town and babysitting Sensei Lawrence’s newborn with Stingray in the style of something straight out of Baby’s Day Out. Hijinks and shenanigans ensue.

― A young Terry Silver and John Kreese have a stupendously homoerotically charged scene together (on a bed full of rose petals, surrounded by candlelight) in which John Kreese inexplicably brings up Pre-Pubescent Johnny Lawrence, ruining the mood.

― Terry Silver cuts his hair in jail and is in solitary confinement, doing push ups, honing himself and craving ‘Hahahaha’ in elaborate patterns over the wall like Harley Quinn.

[kovajean]

About Daniel’s age—isn’t the All Valley up to age 18, or 18 and Under? Then Daniel couldn’t have been 19 in KK3, unless he turned 19 AFTER the All Valley. Do you know if you had to be 18 to lease a building in 1985 in California? Maybe it varies from state to state? (I’m not American!) I still firmly believe he was, like you said, meant to be turning 16 in the birthday scene in KK1, what with him still learning to drive—and Johnny is 18 and a senior. But Daniel only turns 16 in KK1 only if the other two movies weren’t made. But as they were…I personally believe he turns 18 in KK1, and is still 18 in the entirety of KK3. Speaking of which, I believe Terry is 15ish years older than him, and Kreese 5 years older than Terry. But in fandom land they can be whatever 😉

It DOES differ by state, but in the modern California, you need to be 18 to buy a lease. I can promise you I didn't just assume that. However, 1985 California? No idea. I don't see why it would be any younger, but I won't write it off.

I don't use the driver's license thing as proof of age because my entire life I've been surrounded by people who didn't learn to drive until they were over 18. But it was common in the 80's to get your license at 16 (still, again, they didn't change that much of the script. I feel like I have to blow stuff off? Like, yeah, it was more common to get your license at 16, but that's not proof at all that that's what he did.)

As for the All-Valley, once again, he was meant to be 16 in KK1, and that's the turning point of the movie so they couldn't just cut it. They could have made it not "Under 18", though. Something I didn't consider is that the All-Valley in KK3 took place before Daniel's birthday--which is possible (I think. I don't remember when the All-Valley is in KK3. In KK1 it's December 20th, we know this because the poster is shown to us, but I don't think we see the poster in KK3, so I don't know). I kind of prefer this idea, because that means that Daniel's lack of a birthday celebration is due to the movie ending before his birthday. And it also means that I don't have to consider Daniel lying about his age to get in. But also, do you not think it possible for Silver to have made it so Daniel got in no matter what? He forced Daniel to enter, it's not like he would let Daniel's age stop him from competing after he's gotten so far. And one more possibility; maybe they don't care about his age because he's the champion. Throw out the meddling Silver theory, throw out the lying Daniel theory, maybe they requested he come back despite his age simply because he's the champion and the champion needs to be bested.

(I also want to say, I know that the age to buy a lease in California in 1985 could be different, but I'm having a very hard time believing that you could purchase a lease at any age below 18. You're not a legal adult yet and you're buying a building? There's no way.)

Needless to say there's a lot of theorizing. As for the Terry and Kreese age ideas, I always felt like Terry was around 33 and Kreese was around 35. I figured Kreese was older, but not by a lot. Your idea is interesting.

[merv606]

If you want to add to more HC when it comes to Terry’s obsession with Daniel, my take (and it’s kinda long, I apologize) — notice he doesn’t go after any of the Miyagi-Do students the way he did Daniel.

Terry never went after Mr. Miyagi either, even though it was clear it was “the Old Man” Kreese wanted to focus on.

Kreese wanted to focus on Mr. Miyagi… it wasn’t until CK, that Kreese suddenly focused all his rage and all the blame on Daniel — and most likely because Daniel is still around, and more a convenient target.

It was Terry that wanted to focus on and go after the boy from the get-go.

Mr. Miyagi was an after thought to Terry, if it all. For all his blind loyalty, it’s like he forgot about Kreese’s goal, and started concentrating on Daniel. He went rogue and in his own direction.

Now that Daniel is the Sensei, and no longer the student… he’s *still* the focus…

If it were actually about the tournament, Silver would have concentrated on the students, like he did Daniel all those years ago.

He would have gone after Samantha and Robby and Miguel.

Samantha would have ended up his target for having bested Devon at the Sekai Taikai tryouts.

She isn’t. None of them are.

He didn’t focus on the kids…. Because he’s still focused on Daniel.

He said to Kreese, “Back in the 80’s, I thought I could conquer the world… I came damn near close…”

He *still* wants to conquer the world. That never changed.

Cobra Kai was just an avenue for him to do it.

Thing is, Silver could have done that from anywhere. He could have set up Cobra Kai from NY — hell he could have set it up in Wisconsin — and gone to Sekai Taikai without ever having involved Daniel or the AVT.

And to his credit, in the beginning, he tried to avoid involving Daniel.

And yet…

It was never about the tournament. Not in ‘85 and not in ‘19.

This is about conquering Daniel.

This is about Daniel.

Agreed - this has always been about Daniel.

I have always maintained Daniel is his true weakness - and honestly, I don’t even know if Terry realizes this.

Kreese knew though - it’s the one thing he did know about Terry - that Daniel would draw Terry back in.

It’s why he mentions him as soon as Terry says no - he knows.

And he was right - look at what the mere mention of Daniel’s name did - the reaction it garnered.

And, Terry is also the only one who managed to get under Daniel’s skin the most.

Daniel hit rock bottom because of him / Daniel’s marriage was almost (easily - Terry was right about that) destroyed because of him.

He did to Daniele hat others couldn’t - they both just have this effect in each other shrug

See this epic post between @yenforfairytales and me about it!

[msfbgraves]

You know, I went into Cobra Kai fully believing that I would be shipping LawRusso - and I did, still do. What totally blindsided me was the Silverusso. Like holy SHIT. From the instant Terry appeared he stole the show for me - the charisma, the charm, the magnetic presence, the psychological makeup...and then, when he decided to ruin Danny-boy’s life, the chemistry between them in all their scenes was OFF THE CHARTS. 

I hadn’t seen KK3, so I watched it and what the actual fuck? Like, nothing about Terry and Daniel’s relationship in that movie is normal - even by psycho standards. It has serious Red Riding Hood and Wolf vibes - was it intentional? What were the filmmakers thinking? Was everyone on crack or something? Was this considered normal in the 80s? This is like, the most psychosexual kids movie of all time. (And any which way, the vibe between them even then was eclectic.) 

Silverusso literally ships themselves at this point, it’s absolutely mental and deranged and I’m living for it. And the thing in, I actually feel they would be SO good for each other - if Terry wasn’t fucking evil. He ruined it for himself. (Maybe that’s why in CK Daniel and Silver so often wear complimentary colours and clothing with the blues and the blacks - the parallels connecting them are so very visually delicious!)

Well, Nonny, good to know I'm not the only one because that was basically what happened to me, beat for beat. As for the vibes, I'm putting that under the cut.

On the one hand, going by two of Ralph's works I'm obsessed with, young Terry and Cuba - I think that yeah, something was going on for these things to get greenlit. What the everloving f***. I mean I am not complaining but looking at the things they didn't modernise for CK with Silverusso, which was the D/s style seduction techniques - maybe the supermarket scene but even there ("you know you liked it," sure, but Danny boy's trying very hard not to fall for it) and he is buttering up none of the other kids like he did Daniel; and the fact that young Terry has a staff of very young boys whom he talks to in the bath - that just wouldn't fly. And then just before they made Ralphie's teenage character get groomed by an adult junkie and lusted over by his father, who also dommed him around in other ways, on Broadway. And hardly anyone so much as commented on that.

I only have one explanation and that is that if kinky things do nothing for you, maybe people just don't see it. If people try to write kink - mostly to show that characters are depraved somehow - but they don't feel it, they write all kinds of leather and whips and bondage and toys and torn fishnets in Walmart and what have you. I guess people do that, I couldn't say from experience, but you don't need any of it for the vibes. Cue Thomas, who spent his entire career Domming people on screen in broad daylight, fully clothed, no matter the film, and no one ever stopped him because no one was visibly having sex or even touching.

And sure, maybe the line with "traditional" masculinity is very thin. But the clues are always in him being both very considerate and protective - he is like this off screen too - and then jokingly pulling someone to him (he did this with Ralph when he changed a handshake into a hug) or giving a lighthearted order to see if someone will let him. Just something like "Come here, you," or "Hey, stop that" with that big smile of his, nonthreatening, you can shrug that off with a smile or a shoulder squeeze and no harm done... or like Terry, you can build that into something that starts with a soft "well done" and an arm pat and ends in the bedroom, that is, if someone is receptive to that. But that doesn't read as seduction to most people, they just let it be, while Terry was feeling Daniel up and had him follow commands without question by the end of the film...

I think the CK writers on the one hand are very aware of the vibes, hence the complimentary colours, but as Thomas didn't improvise these scenes (he did in tkk3) they read a little different. I think that if Thomas had had completely free rein, Terry would not have left Daniel at the end of their fight scene, but taken him to his house to finish what he started 35 years ago.

Also, "Terry would be so good for Daniel if he weren't evil" - I think there is a very good reason Daniel married Amanda, who looks like a young Terry in female form and is no stranger to telling Daniel what to do. And I think Terry knows exactly what kind of woman Amanda is, going by their scenes together.

Honestly I think he's flattered.

[terrence-silver]

We know that TIG can sing, and so can some of his characters. If pressed to sing, which songs would TIG characters choose?

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― Twig, growing up as a rich boy with, if we read between the lines, draconic parentage with possibly high standards and rather perfectionistic attitudes in education, the only things a young Terry would sing is some kind of classic tune instructed by an onslaught of private tutors hired by his parents for the explicit purpose of training their son's voice or the Zemirot sang around the table during Shabbat, Jewish kid that he was. That's it for you. The first vestige of actual freedom and individual expression, came, perhaps, ironically, in the military, in the early 1960's, surrounded by soldiers from all classes and walks of life, everyone with their own flavor of music, songs and tunes of the decade and my god, if the high of that didn't hit a young Terry quick and hard to the degree it re-wired his brain chemistry, I don't know what else to tell you. Self-control and liberty gained, Twig, would, given the chance, sing or hum anything just because and he was pretty damn good at it too. Suppose when it was just him, John Kreese and Ponytail in the bunk all by themselves, a young Twig might merrily sing something while they conducted their chores together; moments of calm before the storm.

― Terry Silver in the 80's gives a mocking and taunting edge to everything he does because he's tough, he's powerful and he's at the top of his game and he's fairly shameless and despicable when he wants to be which means, around this era in his life man could do anything from busting into an operetta with expert proficiency, because if he does something it will be done perfectly or sing into a mic like he was born to sing into a mic, but will do neither seriously because there's veiled cynicism and an ulterior motive behind it. He's always laughing behind the eyes and yes, you're the joke. Imagine him singing We are The World during the height of a famine in Africa (Ethiopia 1983-85) he might've contributed to by having a major factor in the continent's pollution through Dynatox and trying very hard to seem very heartfelt and genuinely empathetic as he does it for a non-profit organization meant to help the poor (Look! He's helping!) or in equal measure, being at a black tie event fundraiser and singing some tune for (reads smear on hand) ah, yes, children in need. Either ways, the audience esthetically clapped and Mr. Silver gleefully ate up the praise being the center of attention like the big, smug snake he is.

― Old man Terry, if prompted to sing, simply wouldn't. He's past the point of singing, regardless of the fact he's a fierce, deep voice that's more than educated for it. Sure, there must've been a garden party or two where some rumbunctious guest must've prompted Mr. Silver charm all those gathered with a song or a tune on the piano but Terry might've responded with an equally charmed smile and had the obnoxious guest singing for him instead (as a very concealed punishment and veiled hazing ritual hidden beneath layers and layers of relaxed politeness) --- yes, who's to tell Emile, for example, didn't end up entertaining the whole party because Terry turned the tables around on him? Or god knows what sort of various humiliations he put Stingray through purely because he could and because it's awfully easy to imagine him saying 'Sing, Raymond.' as he pours himself a glass of Cognac, eases himself into the nearest armchair and has the buffoon shakily sing, for quite literally, his life. Nothing's for free, right? But, see, that's the point: Terry's convinced he's the earned the right sit back and be the overlord. Not that he ever doubted it. He's Grandmaster. He's Sensei. He's Sir. He's Mr. Silver. He's the Dragon. The dragon doesn't sing. The dragon rules. If he sings and plays it's because he wants to, mostly for himself.

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― Terry McCain undoubtedly sings something Irish, to nobody's colossal surprise because everyone who even vaguely knows the man knows for a fact that this is his go-to choice of music each and every time; some folk tune from the old country passed down through many generations, until the person it originated from is long since forgotten in his family and all that remains is a memory of a memory and Terry's rendition of it, that is, for all intents and purposes, spectacularly good and catchy, especially when he follows up his own song with a tune he plays on a piano --- a thing culturally near and dear to him, and it's surprising with what gusto, passion and emotional charge he does it with, the same way, Catholic boy, born and raised that he is, it is not entirely shocking to find him being very apt and capable of delivering a church melody that could bring a parish choir member to absolute shame and in times like these it is abundantly clear that The Detective is awesomely multi-talented, and that if it wasn't for his career in law enforcement, one in music would've suited him just as well, if not better.

― Cash cannot be persuaded to sing because he doesn't care about the pursuit, finds it a waste of his time and quite frankly, he'd be most likely to glare if it's ever suggested to him --- the most he's willing to do is absent mindedly and very quietly hum some real or imaginary tune while he's waiting in ambush, tapping his gloved finger on the steering wheel, car parked a couple of blocks down as he carefully scopes out a target and patiently lays in wait for his cue, sipping on a cup of black instant coffee --- and even that only if his wait proves to be very, very long. His life is one of excess tension and it's quite literally no song (pun intended) nor is there any time for it and when there is, there's little place for yearning left. In fact, the man undoubtedly doesn't remember when was the last time he genuinely had time or the desire to switch on the radio and deliberately sit down and just listen to music for its own sake. But, if this man ever stalked someone? He's never likely to forget the music he's heard them listening to when they thought they're all alone. Undoubtedly, they're the very tunes he later absentmindedly hums.

― Gus Travis likes his sea shanties because his dream was quite simply put to buy a boat one day and sail out there, live off of the great, wide blue, but it's an ambition that never really came into fruition in the fullest sense, bogged down by the career criminal in's and out's of his dalliances on the wrong side of the law. It is what it is. Nevertheless, he enjoys the notion of a life at sea and everything involved in it, including the associated tunes, songs and music, not that he sings with any positive notion behind it, a full heart and joy either, more like, if Gus ever sang, he'd sing it almost mockingly, yo ho ho, while dangling a live victim upside down over a shark tank, mocking both the poor, unfortunate soul he's about to feed to the fishes down below and mocking himself, in a way, perhaps without even realizing it or wanting to admit that that's precisely what he's doing, because this is what his life has come to and everything he's ever wanted has been slipping further and further away from his fingers with each passing year or has, for the lack of a better word, gone to shit.

― Jan Valek is a medieval Bohemian clergyman, so, utilizing some form of logic, if he ever sang, it could be some old lullaby in Czech that lingers on the very edge of memory, sang to him by who knows who and who knows when, perhaps a mother, a kindly family member, someone from where he used to live when he was human and very young at that, long before he took his vows, or he'd sing some religious hymn in Latin in a voice that could freeze over the full moon with it's haunting beauty; a remnant of a bygone time when he was mortal and dedicated to the service of God, all association with music intricately tied to a more vulnerable time when he wasn't accursed and condemned, now, his song resembling a howl in the dead of night, a phantom's call slashing through the darkness, something chilling and gorgeous that is hard to explain, but certainly not entirely human. The type of thing you hear and you no longer belong entirely to yourself, falling under a vampire's spell, rather, you go out there, looking for the source of whatever it is you heard, mesmerized.

― Jack Blaylock, or rather, Timothy Calloway is All-American; irregardless of the fact that he lives in Japan, made his life in Japan, is embedded in the culture (and its Underworld) of Japan, operates out of Japan undercover with the facade of an Expat like any other, and hey, for all we know, he was born there too, which might make his attachment to all things American profoundly fascinating, no less the fact that if he sang, he'd not only sing something American, but something profoundly anachronistic and belonging to a bygone and nearly idealistic era he never even experienced himself, the same way he either never experienced his actual homeland or experienced it so little and so long ago, one can consider him remotely estranged from it (never say this to his face). So, knowing all of this, it is easy to envision Jack softly singing something by The Harptones, Bobby Darin or The Platters as he cleans his sword, produces his blades, checks his firearms with an immaculate attention to details, puts on a crisp, clean button up shirt, preparing for his next hitjob.

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Terry finding those photos of Johnny. The one's Miguel finds/Johnny shows Miguel. Either TKK era or CK era. I just can't think he wouldn't be curious after seeing those. He'd be down to rub baby oil all over Johnny for some photos I'm sure.

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Okay so, I often have the problem that I can never decide between the tkk/tkk3 era silverlaw or ck era, so I’ll just have to speak of both

Johnny had had professional photos taken when he was a teen: him, his mother, and Sid smiling, pretending to be a happy family. But taking risqué ones was an entirely different experience; first of all, the photographer—a middle aged man, a handsome one who spoke of his children with great love, which made Johnny wonder if his father ever talked about him like that—made him feel a lot more at ease than the one from the past; that one was curt, sharp with his orders, and sneery, a friend of Sid’s who had probably heard all about how "awful" and disrespectful Johnny was to him. Though Johnny thinks the nice man might have been "nice" for other reasons, considering he kept catching him glancing at him in the poses, telling him to get into more and more suggestive positions, but Johnny…didn’t mind. The man kept saying he was doing a good job and that he was so pretty and born for modeling. And when Johnny got all flushed from the attention, the man told him that his sweet blush brought out the pink of his lips. So what if Johnny wanted the guy to fuck him up against the rocks?

He had a few more photoshoots similar to that with creepy photographers or ones who didn’t care about anything else but getting photos and leaving, not that he cared.

His most seductive shoot was his last, multiple photos of him in different slutty outfits and lingerie. Bent over something in little jeans shorts while looking back at the camera with a teasing smile. One of him, in those same shorts but unbuttoned and unzipped, pulled open to show the lingerie beneath, his shirt pushed up, a lollipop in his mouth. Then the last few were of him with the shorts and shirt off completely, posing in exposing ways in just his lingerie.

Very 80’s/90’s. It was a little scary; he’d never worn that stuff before, but he’d thought about it. He knows those ended up in magazines, and he prays that no one ever finds them…

He should have know that his rich husband would. He should have figured Silver would dig, he already knew about the photos of him shirtless on the beach, but when Silver found that box full of even more suggestive pics, he was delighted….mostly. His first thought was “When was this and who took these?”jealousy and possessiveness flared, his mind briefly going down the route of “I need to find the photographer and gouge his eyes out”, but quickly after he started planning on getting his very own photos of Johnny taken. He already has portraits and photos of him throughout the mansion, as well as himself, but those are all classy; shots of him or Johnny posed proper and smiling politely at the camera, plus every photo taken at their wedding, framed and cared for.

Silver was upset that he wasn’t told about them, but he was a lot more excited.

These are what he bought for Johnny to wear, and like most times, Johnny obeyed Terry; posing however he was asked, and spreading his legs wide for Terry when he was done taking photos.

This is not the last time Silver takes pictures of him, and he definitely gets out the baby oil next time.

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What I really was surprised and enjoyed a lot in how the whole Terry Silver and Daniel LaRusso conflict was written in past couple seasons was that it wasn’t even a single bit for the laughs.

Even though Terry is really quite a ridiculous character concept, I am not the only who has pointed out that having a millionaire Captain Planet villain who loves for god know what reason to torture random LA kids is very absurd for a karate movie from late 80′s. But that is actually what makes it work so well.

Terry Silver is just an abuser, with the means and has singled out his preferred easy targets. There doesn’t have to be any more reason than that. Daniel was a vulnerable teen and there was someone to take advantage of that - and when it comes to Cobra Kai and the dynamic in adulthood, it’s super serious take on trauma that’s only know by you and your abuser.

Terry is still grandiose super villain in many aspect. But the fact that it’s not funny at all, that Daniel is depicted seriously as his victim makes all the difference. I’ve said it before, that the very thing that redeems kinda bad film like KK3 to me is that it shows male hero character, who has won twice in previous film still being someone who could be a victim, and I applaud Cobra Kai following that theme.

Daniel is not shown at all as loser, not a weakling, or like amusingly unmanly cos he’s a survivor or abuse. Daniel’s trauma is not for laughs. All I have ever needed in this kinda fiction is a character whose abuse is taken narrative wise fucking seriously, and I got what I asked for.

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Terry Silver + Unknown Caller Theory

Strap in my fellow feral Silverusso, we going for a long ride!

I mean... why in the world would a billionaire presumably keep the same number he had from the 80's AND answer an Unknown number...

BECAUSE HE WAS HOPING IT WAS DANIEL

Look at his reaction to the phone call:

There's a slight hesitation before he answers

He grabs it as if ripping off a bandaid (strike first!)

He answers a little hopefully but cautiously. I'm going to assume not many people have his personal cell

By the time Kreese starts to say 'Long', Terry is already pulling the phone away from his ear

After Terry hangs up, his arm drops heavily and his shoulders slump in disappointment

He goes right back to his music without skipping a beat. Which the actor has said is a way Terry distracts himself from feeling

Obviously we know that he wasn't happy to hear from John Kreese. And because we know that they spoke over the phone in KK3 - more specifically that Terry did indeed have a cell phone in 1985 - it's not unreasonable to assume that Kreese remembered Terry's number. But that only works if Terry never changed his number. Which is possible.

Knowing Terry his number is probably a pun of his name or something lol

Anyway, what I'm getting at is-- If Terry did not want to hear from Kreese, then why didn't he change his number?

I think it's fair to say that a billionaire wouldn't give out his number to just anyone. And the only other person from his past that we've seen is Daniel LaRusso. They had to set up times to meet up sometimes, right?

Ok maybe I'm reaching a bit

But c'mon! Over the course of almost forty years, it would be nothing to change your phone number. Easy peasy.

And it appears that Daniel was not far from his thoughts. Nothing forgotten. Terry was very aware of Daniel's car commercials to the point that he knew their catchphrase. Terry IMMEDIATELY refers to Daniel as 'Danny boy'. Like it was yesterday.

There was no: "What was that nickname I used to call him...?" And it's been said but, he was happy to see Daniel as opposed to angry at seeing Kreese.

So it's not crazy to believe that he kept that line of communication open. Boy, what I would give to see some of Terry's therapy sessions.

Now on the other side of that, it's perfectly reasonable to think that Daniel changed his number many times lol. He kind of lived like a nomad, not much money, probably was afraid of Terry contacting him. Daniel tells Johnny that he never heard from Terry again. You could take that to mean that he half-expected it. Heard from him how, Daniel?

But Yen, you may ask, why didn't Terry ever call Daniel if he did indeed keep that line open on purpose?

Well, take Mike Barnes for example. He tells Daniel that there were many times he wanted to reach out to Daniel to apologize, but was afraid of "triggering" something painful in Daniel. And since Terry went to therapy, he was probably told something similar. Terry did say that he understood Daniel's initial angry reaction, but still tried to appeal and apologize.

Maybe a part of Terry always hoped that-- when Daniel was ready, then they could talk. So he kept his number, the last number he knew Daniel had, just in case.

Then there's the UNKNOWN part of all this. You can't convince me that Terry Silver, of all people, wouldn't know every single last person who had access to his personal phone number. Meticulous and two steps ahead of everyone, Terry Silver.

And so

Why on Earth would he answer an Unknown caller? Why not let it go to voicemail? Why not hang up and consider it a telemarketer or something?

Because he knows who has his number. And out of two long lost friends there was only one that he was hoping to hear from.

Is my thinking anyway.

NOT TO MENTION. NOT TO MENTION THAT TERRY WAS WEARING RED DURING THAT SCENE.

Facing a very zen garden I may add

When we see Terry with Kreese, even in KK3, he wears more yellow, black, it's the Cobra Kai colors

DANIEL was the one who wore red all the time. It's in his name- LaRusso. But that's a post rant for another time. Because throughout the rest of Season 4, Terry never wears red again.

Anyhoo, I'm going to randomly talk about Terry's silk robes now lmao.

So... since it looks like Terry started his morning by playing the piano, seemingly right out of bed, threw on a robe etc, can we infer that he was shirtless under there?

I mean, we got to see him getting ready for bed here:

In nothing but a robe and sleep pants.

I must accept that he plays the piano shirtless like the sexy god he is 🚬

And studiously ignore how lonely he must be, going to bed alone and waking up alone, enough that he must play a difficult song on his piano first thing in the morning to distract himself from his thoughts and emotions, since he can no longer numb the pain and loneliness with drugs and violence. 🚬

Cheyenne doesn't count because she didn't seem to fill the void either. TiG said it was mostly the music and art collecting for Terry. No mention of beautiful women. Hmm.

This post got away from me. What was I talking about

What do you guys think? I love this show too much? Agreed!

[frankendykes-monster]

DC also announced DC Finest, a new line of comprehensive collections of the most in-demand periods, genres, and characters from across DC history. Scheduled to launch in November, these affordably priced, large-size paperback collections start at $34.99, and will take full advantage of DC’s extensive backlist and appeal to casual and completist fans alike. Focusing on characters and storytelling genres instead of creators or prior series will give casual fans the chance to discover full continuities for their favorite characters, while offering completist readers an affordable option to build out their ultimate collection of stories based on their favorite DC Super Hero or genre.

Character-focused collections will spotlight multiple iterations of fan-favorite DC Super Heroes throughout the decades; for example, a “Robin” collection may include volumes featuring Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, or Jason Todd, depending on chronology, while a “Green Lantern” collection may include classic stories featuring Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Alan Scott, or other fan-favorite ring slingers. Genre fans can curate collections of their favorite tales from specific genres, which may include science fiction, romance, war, westerns, horror, and other genres; many of these volumes will feature material reprinted for the first time, by some of comics’ greatest storytellers. The first wave of DC Finest collections include: DC Finest – The Flash: The Human Thunderbolt: Collects classic adventures of Barry Allen, the Silver Age Flash, by John Broome and Carmine Infantino, including 1956’s iconic Showcase #4. Also includes Silver Age Flash stories that include the first appearances of famous Flash rogues, including Captain Cold, Mirror Master, and Gorilla Grodd. DC Finest – Batman: Year One & Two: Collects the Dark Knight’s adventures following the game-changing crossover Crisis on Infinite Earths, including Batman: Year One by Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli and Batman: Year Two by Mike W. Barr and Todd McFarlane, plus more mid-to-late-’80s Batman stories from Barr, Max Allan Collins, Norm Breyfogle, and others. DC Finest – Wonder Woman: Origins & Omens: This collection spotlights fan-favorite writer Gail Simone’s run on Wonder Woman, starting with 2007’s “The Circle,” with artist Terry Dodson, plus celebrated story arcs “Ends of the Earth,” “Rise of the Olympian,” and “Warkiller,” featuring art by Aaron Lopresti. DC Finest – Catwoman: Life Lines: Selina Kyle steps out of Batman’s shadow and becomes a protagonist in her own right in this collection featuring Catwoman’s 1989 solo debut by Mindy Newell and J.J. Birch, Peter Milligan and Tom Grindberg’s Catwoman Defiant from 1992, and the first year of DC’s Catwoman ongoing series, by writer Jo Duffy and artist Jim Balent. DC Finest – Superman: The Coming of Superman: Features the Man of Steel’s earliest and most iconic adventures, starting with Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster’s groundbreaking Action Comics #1. This collection includes Action Comics #1-25, Superman #1-5, and New York World’s Fair Comics #1.

It only took them a decade but DC finally came out with their equivalency to the Marvel Epic Collection. Marvel Masterworks is met with DC Archive Editions, Marvel Essential is met with Showcase Presents, Marvel Premiere Classic is met with DC Comics Classics Library, DC didn't even change the name for their own Omnibus line. They admittedly have the Absolute Edition over Marvel. DC only since 2016 or so has been putting in the work to get a ton of stuff back in print or in print for the first time, we JUST got our first Silver Age Superman Omnibus. I could see myself picking up a few of DC's Finest, we'll see.

[senka-mesecine]

I never understood the 'Four Consequences' line.

Daniel is a consequence of Terry's past and present manipulation, grooming and abuse that haunted him all throughout life and even went as far as affecting his own family, yes. Barnes is a consequence of Terry utilizing him as a virtual teenage mercenary for revenge (and possibly never paying him for it / costing him any future professional martial arts career) in the 80's and then going about burning his store down decades later, sure. Johnny Lawrence is a lifelong consequence of Kreese's and Cobra Kai's bad and toxic teachings as a whole that messed him up in too many ways to accurately list, okay, yes. But, how on earth is Chozen a fellow consequence of any of this is beyond me?

Chozen has none of the shared innate trauma or history spanning back years and years these people have with Cobra Kai, Kreese and Terry Silver.

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Who's Who In The DC Universe #2: Batcave, Batgirl

Batcave by Howard Bender & Gary Martin

Located beneath Wayne Manor

The ultra-secret sanctum sanctorum of the Dark Knight Detective

Discovered by Bruce Wayne when he fell through the rotted flooring of the old manor barn he originally intended to use as his headquarters

Wayne once maintained a second Batcave in an unused subway tunnel beneath the Wayne Foundation building during the days when he lived in its penthouse

The second Batcave now serves as the sometimes headquarters of the Outsiders

Everyone knows the Batcave – it’s the most famous superhero headquarters of all time. The Batcave is featured prominently in all Bat Family titles, Batman cartoons, live-action adaptations, and video games.

Batgirl by Brent Anderson and Terry Austin

A PH.D graduate of Gotham State University, Barbara Gordon began her career as a quiet librarian, which left her time to pursue her interest in the martial arts.

On her way to the Policeman’s Masquerade Ball, wearing a self-designed Batgirl costume, Barbara saved Bruce Wayne from Killer Moth

Babs enjoyed the excitement and danger and decided to become a hero.

She later served one term as a Congresswoman in Washington DC.

Babs is now an Associate Director of Humanities Research and Development

She is now a semi-retired vigilante.

The Barbara Gordon version of Batgirl is one of the most famous heroines in comic book history. She was in numerous Bat titles from the 60s thru the 80s, made multiple appearances in the Batman 60’s tv series. Batgirl, along with Supergirl and Wonder Woman, was featured heavily in all of DC’s merchandising – attire, coloring books, etc, from the 60’s through the 80’s. Silver Age Babs adventures tended towards silliness but Bronze Age Bab is my jam.  See Secret Origins #20 and the 1987 Batgirl Special for two prime Batgirl stories. The Killing Joke tossed Babs in the fridge but John Ostrander took her back out and transformed her into the phenomenal Oracle.  Batman: The Animated Series would bring Babs back as Batgirl and she would feature in the various BTAS series as well as Batman Beyond. She would make appearances in multiple Batman animated movies, the live action Batman & Robin, the Birds of Prey tv series (as Oracle), and the Young Justice series.  She also made appearances as both Oracle and Batgirl in the Arkham Asylum and Gotham Knights video games. Babs may be the most featured female in comic book adaptations.

Back to the comics, Babs as Oracle continued her groundbreaking role in comics as the information broker of the Bat Family and the founder and leader of the Birds of Prey. Unfortunately, DC decided to remove much of her education and career accomplishments so they could de-age Babs to be Dick Grayson’s first love and yet another teen protégé of the Batman. Babs was easily 5 to 10 years older than Dick in the Bronze Age era. Babs flirted with Bruce Wayne, went on a date with Clark Kent, and almost married Jason Bard. This is the main reason I dislike Babs & Dick as a couple – if you must diminish one character to make it work, it is not a good pairing. There are many other reasons I dislike the pairing, but I’ll leave that to another post.

Barbara returned to the Batgirl role in the New 52 for no other reason than Silver Age nostalgia.  Babs has outgrown the role and her shoes had been nicely filled by Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown. Barbara went from the unique, important Oracle – one of the leaders of the Bat Family and extended vigilantes – to one of a dozen vigilantes running around the Gotham rooftops.