#Dissociativeidentitydisorder

[syllvarin]

Non-traumagenic plurality: How could it be possible?

First off, let's start with what some anti-endo folk mean versus what they don't mean with traumagenic plurality

They mean systems caused by/as a response to trauma and traumatic events, and those who are still affetced by them, aka systems who are disordered, DID/OSDD/UDD.

What they don't mean is systems who have trauma in their origin along with other causes. They do not believe a system can very well be traumagenic but function smoothlessly due to recovering, or have multiple origins.

Note: We are a diagnosed DID system with mixed (trauma/ramcoa/neuro/para) origins. Yes, we know what we are talking about. No, that doesn't mean we can't do mistakes, but we will try our best to be as accurate as possible. We will include scientific articles, DSM-5 DID checklist, and many more in this post.

How can that be possible?

1st: Brains are quite complicated. Research on brain functions is far from being complete, it is a long road that we are still at the very beginning of. We still don't know how brain exactly works let alone how it can form seperate conscious identities and work them together. We do know headmates exist based on brain MRI's ( link here ) That proves us that systems indeed, exist.

2nd point i want to make is that science is not done in a linear fashion. We are studying to be neuroscientists ourselves and the very core of what makes science doable is MONEY. Yes, in this capitalist system even the most seemingly basic research requires funding, money, and a goal that can be monetized to get done. Reseaches on female autonomy, rare disorders and "demonized" disorders such as DID is therefore not often as it is not easily capitalized and funded.

Therefore we do not have enough research to prove or disprove that the only way of becoming a system is through childhood.

And that brings me to my 3rd point, where we will take a look at what DSM-5 (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition) says about diagnostic crietria of DID. We will see how it is a dissocative disorder, not a trauma disorder.

Found under dissociative disorders (not trauma disorders!), checklist for DID is as follows:

See how none of those checklist include trauma as checklist? Yes DID is commonly caused by trauma but not always. Yes it commonly is created during childhood but not always. Those arent in diagnostic criteria.

Definitive feature is not trauma, it is distinct personality states or experience of possession.

DID is associated with traumatic events, does not mean it requires it.

DID can manifest at almost any age (DSM-5 is saying that, folks)

What's more is OSDD doesnt even have a definitive checklist like DID. it is found under differential diagnosis, with other disorders. PDID (partial DID where one part is frontstuck a majority of the time) is also up to psychiatrist's evaluation rather than a concrete checklist.

4th point is : What about Structural Dissociaton Theory?

This theory is as it goes: The theory of Structural Dissociation works off of the assumption that everyone is born with different ego states that later merge in life. Those different ego states operate for different actions in life, that later integrate into one person during ages of 4-6. Trauma disrupts that integration and causes ANP (apparently normal parts) and EP (Emotional parts). EP's are stuck in the trauma while ANP's are not.

source: The Haunted Self: Structural Dissociation and the Treatment of Chronic Traumatization" by Onno van der Hart, Ellert Nijenhuis, and Kathy Steele. 

Yes, theory. Theories are not concrete. They can be disapproved, they can change, they may not fit every experience. Structural dissociation only explains how DID can manifest at childhood, but we already know by now that DID can manifest at almost any age.

So I personally think basing everything on a theory about how DID might've been caused (which doesn't even perfectly explain every possible way) is not as fault-proof as one might think it is.

Point 5: experiences of "multiple identities" exist for so long into history (people who are possessed, talk to themselves, act weird at times, are very different at times, etc), way before any DID/OSDD terms were created. And actually, how can we know how many people in history have had this experience when the very society we are in is very scared of them? It is fair to say only the disruptive cases must've been noticed, and majority of them probably were either deemed as crazy or exorcised as they believed those people were possessed by spirits. Just because your experience does not fit with others and just because science hasnt done anything to back them up, doesn't mean people's lived experiences are false. Why would so many people tell that they are a system when they are not? We are not living in a place where being a system is happy or fun, we are not in a society where its profitable or anything. It literally gives a person zero + points for being plural if they arent. It would be a nonstop roleplay they have to keep up throughout every aspect of their life; and at that point, it must be either impossible or that person is already plural and not roleplaying when no one is looking at them.

Creating headmates is on the same basket. A person with DID can create headmates in blink of an eye (we know from oursleves) sometimes splitting threshold is so low you may split off multiple people at once. You cannot know what is going in a person's mind, and what mechanisms work for creating a headmate. If they claim they did, it is very much no chance they are faking being different people 24/7. It *is* a real chance that they actually did develop a headmate. If you do not believe them; ask them about their experiences. I am %100 positive that if you actually listen to them, you will see those people are only trying to live their life.

Also, if you think healthy systems cannot exist and only way to be a system is through dissociation and dysfunction; then why would DID systems try to heal anyway? Wouldn't that just be sanist and ableist to expect all of them to turn into singlets because healthy multiplicity isnt a thing?But no, it is a thing, and healthy multiplicity and recovery is possible for systems. DID and other disordered forms of plurality do indeed exist, and they are indeed, treatabe in multiple ways according to what a person feels comfortable with. That is also a system's right to heal however they please. They don't owe anyone their right to stay as plural or become a singlet.

6th point I want to make is about: Why do we even care?

If a person says they have multiple people in their head, why do we care and tell them they are faking? They are not claiming to have a diagnosis, even if they did; if their situation is causing a distress to them, then they ARE diagnosable and that therefore is none of our business, again.

Last point I want to make is how endogenic DID is possible. yes, possible. remember how trauma is not in diagnostic criteria and DID can happen at any age? If endogenic plurals can happen, they can also form DID at later in life. They can also become disordered due to an event in their life. They can lose harmony and become so dysfunctional they need professional help. That doesn't mean they are no longer endogenic or some other origin, that simply means their state is different than what it was and they need help.

End of our post. Thank you for reading.

[asterism-collective]

one second im asexual, one second im a gay trans man, the next I’m a little girl first finding out a crush, then im a horny adult woman with two girlfriends, then I’m a sun god with a boyfriend, then I’m a genderqueer teen still figuring out feelings, then im an aroace girl, then im so sapphic, then bi, and then unlabeled, and one minute i care about labels and hoard them and the next I don’t care

[can-d-i-d]

[philosophersystem]

From M0, M1 & S: About final fusion.

We learned from a system that reached final fusion and is sharing information regarding that. So we've been following them a bit and finding out what it's like for them to be like that. The following is what we learned from that.

The full personality is the unbroken mirror, if you break the mirror, it turns into smaller parts of the same mirror. Those are the alters and the space inbetween those parts are the dissociative barriers. You can glue it back together, which means lowering the dissociative barriers through therapy.

But it'll always be a mirror consisting of smaller parts that have been glued back together. As in, someone that achieved final fusion is like a full person again, but can still choose to see themselves in parts if they want to and even interact with these parts individually (is this actually true?). It's just that the dissociative barriers between the parts have become so low that the memory and everything else has become fully accessible by every part.

We haven't achieved that yet, but it's something we learned from a system that managed to achieve final fusion. It changed our minds on what we want to achieve with therapy. Beforehand we wanted functional multiplicity, though after learning what final fusion is really like, we now want to achieve final fusion. Since the individual parts apparently aren't fully fused together in final fusion. They just are working as pieces of the complete puzzle that makes up the fully fused personality.

I hope we understood and explained everything correctly. If not feel free to correct our errors =)

If you want to learn more about final fusion, here's a link to a post from that systems blog.

Disclaimer: We were able to find somewhat similar accounts about final fusion, but so far we didn't find anything about being able to still view yourself as parts and being able to individually interact between each other. If anyone got more information regarding that topic, we would be really interested in it! Especially because it is the main reason for us considering going the route of final fusion.

Though of course we could also wait until we've got a diagnosis and then talk to the psychologist about it. But where's the fun in that? We love learning stuff on our own. It's our shared hobby. =)

[paradoxesofgalaxies]

If You Wake Up After a Nightmare, Coping With Trauma Related Dissociation

[image ID: If You Wake Up After a Nightmare

If you wake up at night after a disturbing dream or nightmare, or feel anxious and panicky, it is important to be able to calm down and comfort yourself and other parts that are anxious. Work with yourself and your therapist to develop various ways to help yourself.

• The first step is always to get your bearings in the present. Use all the anchors to the present you have put in your bedroom. Talk to yourself quietly and tell yourself out loud where you are.

• Turn on the light and get out of bed. Perhaps have something to drink and find something to distract you.

• Splash cool or cold water on your face, hands, and the back of your neck. This will help you get more present and awake.

• Consciously slow your breathing. Try some breathing exercises.

• Do some gentle stretching exercises to help your body reorient to the present.

• If you have a pet, spend a little time petting or cuddling with him or her.

• If you have physical symptoms, such as a bad taste in your mouth, or pain or discomfort, be mindful in talking to yourself inwardly as you do things to soothe yourself (for instance, brush your teeth, have a noncaffeinated drink, suck on a mint or hard candy, massage painful muscles): "I am in the present now. Whatever happened to me is over. I am safe. My mouth, my legs, my body, etc., are in the present. I am doing all I can to help all parts of myself." Try to be aware of any internal sense of what might help.

• Some people find that it helps if they write down a distressing dream or image and then put it away, tear it up, or bring it to therapy. The idea is not to go further into the experience, but to contain it by putting it on paper and leaving it until a more appropriate time.

• You might try "changing" your nightmare. Add a supportive or strong person to the dream, invent a way out of the situation, or give yourself special powers to overcome any sense of powerlessness or fear in the dream. Your therapist may be able to help you with this kind of technique.

• Some people wake up from a nightmare and find they are unable to move. Although this is extremely uncomfortable and even frightening, it will not last for very long. It is simply the state of being paralyzed by fear. If this happens to you, make sure you have some anchors to the present visible from every angle from the bed: on your left, your right, even on the ceiling. Even though you cannot yet move, you can begin to see the anchor and gradually perceive you are in the present. This perception will help your body shift out of that paralysis mode. Try starting with a tiny movement, for instance, blinking your eyes, and just barely twitching your toe or little finger. When you can do this, then move the opposite toe or finger. Then make a slight movement with your hand or foot, then your arms or legs. Continue slowly and patiently until your entire body has become more able to move.

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[jemmasspace]

Literally so spacy and tired right now but I never get to be out so I don't want to go to sleep

[venom-system]

Kindly reminder that you can't just ask for an alter to front or say that you wish THIS alter was here and still expect that we will treat you serious.

[traumaanddissociation]

Actors role playing DID can be identified from differences in brain activation patterns, compared to people with DID - and brain activation patterns depend on whether an trauma holder alter / EP is in charge or a Apparently Normal Part / host - supporting the Theory of Structural Dissociation of the Personality (TSDP).

Multiple brain scan studies support structural dissociation, brain activation differences between alters, brain activation differences between people with DID and healthy controls or trained actors pretending to have DID.

Regions of the brain activated are those known to be associated with self-referencing and sensorimotor actions, but not the regions linked to imagination

Schlumpf YR, Reinders AATS, Nijenhuis ERS, Luechinger R, van Osch MJP, Jäncke L (2014) Dissociative Part-Dependent Resting-State Activity in Dissociative Identity Disorder: A Controlled fMRI Perfusion Study. PLoS ONE 9(6): e98795.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3791283/

[littleashthings]

Good morning lovelies! Progressing through learning how to rig and I can’t wait to improve on this draft. 🖤 Is starting to look nice and squishy! 

[the-helianthus-corps]

The More the Merrier

Happy DID Awareness Day! This post is a brief explanation of how the pandemic affected my mental health and allowed me to finally get some answers via a DID diagnosis. It also serves as a simplified explanation of what DID is.

Happy DID Awareness Day! This is a brief explanation of how the pandemic affected my mental health and is a simplified explanation of what DID really is. Early in the pandemic, we spent a lot of time by ourself. We had just moved into our dad’s full-time, he worked all day and our brother was still living with our mom. For the first time in nearly 20 years, we were alone. And we were safe. We…

[asterism-collective]

After my one post where we found out you didn’t need blackout amnesia to have DID went viral, and after I met a system IRL at school who though they were osdd1b (was actually DID) I’ve come to the conclusion

we all have a condition called “ohhh I don’t have it that bad”

like we’re severely underestimating how LITTLE amnesia you need to qualify from osdd1b to DID

[starlinefactives]

Starline's factives

Hyuka | Yeonjun | Soobin

Beomgyu | Taehyun

★ Esp / Eng ☆

★ Con este blog queremos ayudar a otres factives y a desestigmatizar este tipo de estado alterno de conciencia(Alter). También crear un entorno seguro donde hablar sin tener que ocultarnos tras una máscara.

☆ Our motto here is to help other factives as well as destigmatize this kind of alternate identity(alters). We also want to be ourselves without a mask in a safe space.

★ Por cosas de la vida somos factives y del mismo grupo, así fueron las cosas, no nos acribillen con ese tema, por favor ¡Si queréis preguntar sobre eso que sea con educación!

☆ Life made us factives from the same band, please don't be rude about that if you want to ask!!

[philosophersystem]

From M0, M1 & S: About 3 "new" alters.

Hey, we hope you have a nice day =)

tl;dr

M, an alter in our system, was found to consist of two parts, M0 and M1, who weren’t communicating, causing memory confusion. After acknowledging them separately, they began interacting and are now in full contact. R, our physical protector, reappeared after a dangerous situation, proving he wasn't dormant but simply avoiding the modern world. S1, based on an abuser, caused trouble due to a misunderstanding, thinking we were enemies. After a conversation, he’s now a valued system member. These developments have brought more clarity and unity within our system.

We had been suspecting that M actually has an alter of his own that's not in direct contact with the rest of the system for a longer time now, between 6-12 months or so. Mainly because Mono sometimes gave paradoxical statements and had a lot of issues with his own memory as alter. He could also feel and notice memories about important stuff changing sometimes, especially during writing the memories down or while talking about them.

Like for example the memory of our hospital stay due to our appendix nearly bursting that we talked about in an earlier post. M0 has the memory while M1 doesn't. So when they were both acting as M, sometimes he could remember it while other times he couldn't. M0 and M1 both could observe their memory changing about it one time too while talking about it. Leading to both of them getting freaked out. This is our main memory indicator since they seem to be co-fronting a lot from how we understand it so far. It's a complex situation.

But this complex situation had an easy fix: We basically just had to acknowledge them both by giving each of them their own PluralKit proxy instead of them both using one. This led to M1 reaching the realization that he indeed was an alter of M0. He then reached out to M0 inside their own little headspace and they started talking with each other and are now in full contact with each other.

So, welcome to reality M1! We hope you'll be able to keep staying conscious of it and we also hope you'll enjoy the time with all of us!

This post doesn't end here though. There's still two more alters to talk about. R and S1. Let us start with R.

R is our physical protector but he wasn't interacting with us for a long time now. This made us believe that he may be dormant. Sorry for believing that, R.

He was triggered out due to a situation with our ex?-wife where she's been in danger. We don't want to go into more detail there, but that's how we realized he just isn't fronting normally anymore. We came to know back in the day that he hates the modern world like nothing else. Which is why probably he now abstains from interacting with it in any way, if he's not needed to protect us or those close to us that is.

Now onto the hardest part of this post. S1. Our misunderstood introject that we've seen as persecutor who is based on one of our abusers. He mainly was messing with us ever since we knew about being a system. I don't want to go into more detail there, but he really caused us a lot of trouble since we figured out that we're a system.

We found out the reason why though. It was back when we were still in a trauma bond with said abuser, we found out about being a system. We harshly broke off contact to our abuser shortly afterwards since we also remembered the trauma he caused us. During that, we also told our abuser what we think about him.

S1 sadly really took this to heart and thought, we would be his enemies, given how hostile we all acted towards our abuser that he's based on. So in an attempt to protect himself, he was messing with us and our lives. This led to us viewing him as an enemy of our system. Because we didn't understand. But thanks to very good people talking with me, S, about him while he unbeknowingly listened in, he started to realize why we were acting hostile towards him. Afterwards M0 and S1 had a long talk and now S1 has been accepted as a valuable member of the system. We were really missing those positive sides of our abuser.

In case people want to see him as evil persecutor. S1 is not a bad guy at all. He is mainly based on the positive sides that our abuser showed towards us. He doesn't show any intent to harm us or anyone else anymore. He just was trying to protect himself from possible harm because of a severe misunderstanding. He also was really alone all these years. And he's an important member of our system now.

That's all for now

See you later and thank you for reading this long entry. We hope you enjoyed it and were able to learn something from it.

[dissociative-memes]

Top text reads: “Can’t find keys” Bottom text reads: “Little hidden them in fruit basket again”]

Ah yes, microamnesias...

[jemmasspace]

Little pinterest collage of stuff that is me coded

[venom-system]

Hi guys,

I really need your help and it's not about money.

Any form of interaction (share, comment, like) will be helpful.

We will have a big project for our uni soon.

We want to prove that people with DID/OSDD are not dangerous and that movies/media have negative impact.

We want to prove that people with DID/OSDD are as dangerous as any other human being and often because of trauma they are less likely to hurt people.

This is serious job to do. We need your opinion, we need your contact, we need to know some stuff about you (we won't ask about trauma).

If you want to help with our project contact me please. We won't use/share any info about you. Only our uni profesor and the person who will check our work will know about it and it's serious project which will help me to finish this year.

If you have DID/OSDD and you are diagnosed with it contact me please. I can't do anything without you.

I don't care about people opinion so if you want to write that systems are dangerous just stay quiet. That type of comments will be removed.

Thanks for reading.