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zegalba · 1 year
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龚贤 - 金碧山水 by Gong Xian (Qing dynasty)
There's a special style in Chinese landscape painting called 青绿山水 (Qinglu Shanshui) which uses mineral dyes to complete the artwork. Those artworks have major green and blue colors. During Song Dynasty, artists and scholars added is 泥金 (made of glue and powdered gold or other metals) to the dyeing materials. These landscape paintings are 金碧山水 (Jinbi Shanshui).
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coltonwbrown · 2 years
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Densely Wooded Mountain Gong Xian (ATTRIBUTED TO, CIRCA 1612-1689)
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kayime · 1 year
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新年快乐 (xīnnián kuàilè)
happy lunar years from old xian
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laconicearthling · 20 days
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🌻Chinese Actors As Home Screen Aesthetic🌻
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returning-spring · 6 months
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god just insane how li lianhua joined the ranks of my favourite characters ever from chinese dramas. he's up there with wei yingluo, tantai jin, and cheng shaoshang for me
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kdram-chjh · 1 year
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Cdrama: Please Don’t Spoil Me (Season 1) (2022)
She is so good at acting cute!!! | 拜托了!别宠我 | Please Don't Spoil Me! #shorts
Watch this video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VHYRYJ0v7Ww
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asksythe · 10 months
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The real-life Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng - A tale of two brothers
I’ve been asked this before when talking about topics such as Qiongqi beast and its symbolism in Wei Wuxian’s death, the various hints that Wei Wuxian might be long lost royal, the historical background behind the Yin tiger tally, and why the tiger symbol seemingly being bad juju for Wuxian. 
It’s all connected, of course, through a historical basis. I have some free time today, so let’s get! 
Meet Wei Wuji, also known as Lord Xinling, the second Prince of Wei Kingdom (circa 2nd century BCE), the first person in recorded history to handle a Tiger Tally, and very very likely to be the real-life basis for Wei Wuxian. 
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How very likely? Well, there’s no word of god, of course. But I’ll just let the facts speak for themselves, and you be the judge. 
1. Let’s start with names:
Wei Wuji 魏無忌
Wei Wuxian 魏无羡
Wei 魏 = Wei 魏. An exact match. As a matter of fact, Wei Wuji’s Wei kingdom is the first kingdom to bear this Wei name in recorded history. 
Wu 無 is the traditional form of Wu 无. In the Japanese, Taiwanese, and traditional Mandarin versions, Wei Wuxian is also written with this Wu 無. 
The original meaning of Ji is ‘envy, hatred’ in ancient times (as per the Kangxi dictionary and the original text of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms). In modern times, the meaning of Ji has morphed to represent ‘fear, avoid’ more than ‘envy’ and ‘hatred. 
The meaning of Xian is envy in both ancient and modern times. 
So Wei Wuxian is effectively an alternate way to write Wei Wuji. 
2. The life and death of Wei Wuji and the first Tiger Tally recorded in history:
a. Genius second son, a friend of many, the brightest 4th Young Master:
Wei Wuji was born the second son of King Wei Zhao and the second prince of the Wei Kingdom. He had an elder half-brother: Wei Anli, crown prince and, afterward, King of the Wei Kingdom. 
Despite being the younger brother and not the heir to the throne, Wei Wuji eclipsed his elder brother in talent, courage, military and political acumen, and sheer popularity. 
Wei Wuji was also unique among his period peers for being very open-minded when it came to castes. He lived during the warring state period, during which there existed an extremely strict caste system where the lower and slave castes didn’t even count as humans and could be executed for silly things like being in the presence of their higher caste masters and ‘tainting the air’ they breathed. Not only did Wei Wuji give no thought to this caste system, he would often go out of his way to listen to the lower castes and treat them with respect as if they were of the same caste. 
In one legend (Sima Qian Historical Records, circa 135 BCE), Wei Wuji walked away from a banquet raised in his name to go sit and talk to an old, wise prison guard (Hou Ying). He would then invite this prison guard to his banquet with the highest of honor, even giving the guard his seat (noble seat) and driving the chariot in his place. When other noble banquet guests protested this lowly guard’s presence by vilifying the old prison guard for not knowing his place, Wei Wuji stood up for him and gave him the highest of toasts, thus silencing the guests.   
In another legend, Wei Wuji hosted over 3000 guests in his princely fiefdom. He famously declared that so long as a person had ambitions and a will to do good in his heart, then Wei Wuji would receive him in his hall as a guest and friend regardless of what caste he was or from where he came.
For this, Wei Wuji was known as Lord Xinling and held the loyalty of many in his own brother’s kingdom.
He was one of the Four Gongzi of the Warring State Period (lit. Four Young Masters, Four Noblemen, Four Princes. During this period, Gong was a distinct noble class comparable to Duke. So this can also be understood as the Four Dukes). He was seen as the brightest among the Four. 
b. The tale of the first Tiger Tally in recorded history: 
Sima Qian Historical Records told the tale of the first Tiger Tally as such. It was a time of chaos where the strong trampled the weak, and big countries gobbled up small ones. Wei Kingdom was one of the seven strongest of the time. This meant that their position was precarious. 
Around this time, Wei Wuji’s elder brother, Wei Anli, had ascended the throne and adopted a policy of avoidance. Despite the ferocious fighting, the political struggles, and the easily foreseeable threats, Wei Anli was of the thought that if he did nothing and just closed his door, then trouble wouldn’t come knocking at his door. 
But this was not so. In 260 BC, the state of Qin (of Qin Shi Huang, yes) besieged the state of Zhao and captured the King of Zhao (who was related to the Wei through marriage). Zhao sent for Wei’s help. But King Wei Anli didn’t want to be Qin’s next target, and so refused to send aid. 
This was where the Wei brother’s opinions diverged. Wei Wuji saw that Qin was growing unchecked in power, and if not stopped, then Wei would be next on the chopping block anyway. So not only was Wei politically and morally responsible, but from a long-term strategic standpoint, Wei must respond if they didn’t want Qin to grow too strong and eventually be invaded and absorbed into Qin itself. 
The only problem: Wei Wuji had no right to make this decision. And regardless of his insistence and explanation to his elder brother, Wei Anli would not be moved. Meanwhile, the state of Zhao sent ever more desperate pleas for help (from the Wei’s sister who was Zhao Queen at the time no less). 
Pressured from all sides and with no alternative, Wei Wuji made a decision that would go down as a first in history. He would steal the Tiger Tally from his King’s hand, commandeer the army, and ride to answer Zhao’s pleas for help himself. 
This would eventually become the historical example of military brilliance that required the usurpation of the immediate superior. Wei Wuji’s own name would go down in history as brilliance that eclipsed his station. 
I’ve written on the tiger tally before. So I won’t write more about this now. 
To summarize things, Wei Wuji’s plan worked. Zhao was saved. But at the cost of a rift between brothers. After lifting the siege, Wei Wuji stayed in Zhao for ten years. 
He would only go back to Wei Kingdom when Wei was besieged by Qin in purported retaliation, bringing with him the 3000 guests that stayed loyal to him and went to Zhao for help. Wei Wuji successfully lifted the siege of Wei and the two brothers reunited after a decade of not seeing each other. They cried and embraced one another. Wei Anli made Wei Wuji the Grand General of Wei, and he then took over the safeguarding of Wei against the onslaught of Qin. 
c. The tale of two brothers. Or, as the Chinese say, the King has no brothers. The King has no equal. Fool is he who dares think himself the King’s brother and equal. 
Despite the fact that the brothers reunited, this tale does not end well. 
Wei Wuji was a brilliant general and a ferocious warrior. But more than that, his reputation far eclipsed his elder brother the King. Ever since they were young, Wei Anli had had to suffer being under the shadow of his little brother, despite his being the heir and then King. 
Wei Wuji not only successfully repelled Qin, but he also started making a plan to counterattack and nyx Qin Empire before it could take shape. Because his reputation was such that countless warriors and scholars answered his call to arms. Five other kingdoms also answered his request for an alliance.
The King of Qin was deathly afraid of Wei Wuji. Violence did not work, so the Qin King attempted the other way: through schemes and manipulation. The Qin King sent enormous fortunes and gifts to Wei Anli under the guise of normalizing relations between the two kingdoms and potential peace. Along with his gifts, he would send people, spies of all ranks and castes, to infiltrate Wei Anli’s court and territory. These spies would continuously do things to increase the friction and gap between the two brothers. 
Some of them would falsely congratulate Wei Wuji for having ascended to the throne. 
Some more would treat Wei Wuji with more deference than Wei Anli. 
Some would then whisper into Wei Anli’s ears: “Prince Wei was away from his own Kingdom for 10 years. And yet when he calls, thousands in Wei Kingdom answer him. Why is it him and not you, the King? Do your people only know Wei Wuji and not Wei Anli. Are you sure it’s still you who is the King? He should know his place!”    
Wei Anli… fell for their tactics. So he demoted Wei Wuji and effectively isolated him from the court. He would then give this position to someone else. So, of course, the plan to counterattack Qin with the 5 ally kingdoms fell apart miserably.
Wei Wuji was heartbroken by his own brother’s action. He descended into alcoholism and purportedly died from depression and failing health. In other words, he died from the betrayal of someone who saw as a brother but that same brother saw him not as a brother but as a rival and a carrier of problems. 
Wei Anli died in the same year as Wei Wuji, purportedly from illness. 
18 years later, just as Wei Wuji predicted, Wei Kingdom was conquered and subsumed by Qin. Qin would then go on to become the first true Empire in Chinese History. 
Wei Anli was not technically the last monarch of Wei. But it’s historically agreed that he’s the one who laid the foundation for the fall of Wei due to his suspicion of his own brother and removing the one person capable of turning the tide of Qin.  
So, I will leave this here for you to come to your own conclusion and come back another day for analysis on the parallels between history and story and a few other somewhat ironic anecdotes that I didn’t include here (Like the fact that between the 2 Wei brothers, it’s the real-life Jiang Cheng, Wei Anli, that was the gay one. How gay are we talking about? So gay he’s the origin of Chinese gay porn) 
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not sure if you've answered this before but would you happen to know if lgbt+ is common in 'ancient china'? if it was when did it stop being 'common'? i just ask this because i heard of the story about the emperor (? i think) who cut off his sleeve for his lover
The story you're referring to is often called "the Passion of the Cut Sleeve", a story recorded in 汉书 (A History of the Former Han, about Emperor Ai, Liu Xin, of the Han dynasty (who ruled from 7 BC - 1 BC and died at 25 y.o, for perspective) and his lover, Dong Xian. To put it shortly, in order to not wake Dong Xian from sleep, Emperor Ai cut off a sleeve of his robe so that he could get up without disturbing him. "Cut sleeve"/etc (断袖/断袖之癖/断袖之宠) thus eventually because a euphemism for homosexuality. Similar euphemisms came from other, older stories involving monarchs:
"The Story of the Shared Peach"/"The Bitten Peach" led to "shared peach" (分桃) and "bitten peach" (餘桃) becoming a slang for "homosexual". This story is actually often posed as a fable of sorts. Mizi Xia was a courtier of Duke Ling of Wei (not to be confused with the later state of Wei) (ruled 534 — 492 BC) who was very good-looking and once shared a peach with the duke, who was charmed by the gesture and allowed Mizi Xia to use his carriage without having to ask permission. Later, when Mizi Xia's looks had faded, he lost favor with Ling-gong, who then said that Mizi Xia had stolen his carriage and insulted him by giving him a half-eaten peach. Still, Mizi Xia as a legendary figure is often referenced as the ideal lover.
A third story is just that of King Wei and Lord Longyang, which would've taken place somewhere around 260ish BC (give or take a decade). It was recorded briefly that once when the two were out fishing, Longyang began to cry, and when asked why, he said that he was afraid that when he lost his looks, the king, being surrounded by so many beauties, would eventually abandon him. As a result, in order to show Longyang that this was not the case, the king handed down the order that it would be forbidden to discus any other beauties, and punishment for doing so would be death to the entire family and confiscation of property (I know, extra). Later, Longyang was given a fiefdom by the king and "Lord Longyang" (龙阳君) is a slang for homosexual, with "the closeness of Longyang" (龙阳之好) and similar expressions (龙阳之兴) also being a synonym for homosexuality.
As for the other part of your question, I'd say yes....ish. "LGBT+" is a modern concept dominated by western queer/gender/sexuality studies in many ways so I personally do not find it useful to use this term when talking about or trying to understand (Chinese) history.
But yes, there homosexuality in ancient/imperial China, and it was not pathologised or treated as a medical issue or perversion for much of history (basically not until religious/Christian-based homophobia arrived and spread through China via Europeans, esp. missionaries). Neither Buddhism, Daoism, nor Confucianism, the most popular religions/philosophies in China throughout history and today, condemn homosexuality, either. TLDR; for the most part, homophobia was propagated during the Qing Dynasty via Western (European) influence.
Now, was it 'common'? As common as it is today, I suppose. Or, to answer the question I think you're more likely trying to ask: was it open? From my understanding, there were changes in attitudes toward same-sex relations (and sexuality in general) through the dynasties and in certain groups, but for much of pre-modern Chinese history, same-sex attraction and relations were accepted as a facet of life and society. It's often been said that the Tang Dynasty was extremely liberal in many areas including sexuality and sexual expression, whereas by the Qing dynasty, society was increasingly conservative while more laws being affected to deal with prostitution and sexual deviancy (rape, assault, etc) (unfortunately probably linking homosexuality to deviance due to prevalence of male prostitution for example) while also infamously having a rich culture around (male) same-sex relations (homosexual, homoerotic) in Beijing opera up through the end of imperial China. Overall, Chinese history is so long and varied and attitudes toward and practices surrounding homosexuality changed.
People also got married for different reasons back in the day, i.e, political and social (financial) reasons. Confucius reasons, lol. If you do any reading into it, you'll probably find that Fujian province is often mentioned as place were homosexuality seemed prevalent. Such was even the practice that men would marry into one (usually the more powerful/better off one)'s family. Of course, at the end of the day, there was generally an expectation that one should produce offspring to continue on the family name; at that point there was either adoption or, one man might after a couple years take a wife or concubine (has a lower status/marital rights than a wife) and raise a child to fulfill their duties to family (as dictated by Confucianism).
I should add that lesbians through history often fly under the radar and are less academically explored but my understanding is that female same-sex relations (lesbianism, homoeroticism) was actually more prevalent and unwavering throughout the times, since laws, politics, and society were mostly concerned with what men were up to, basically. Although less discussed, depictions and mentions of lesbianism are nonetheless found in Chinese literature and art throughout history.
And, kind of a side note I couldn't figure out where to stick in this answer, it's worth noting that gender expression was different and somewhat still is different in China so it's ineffectual to completely map modern and western ideas/theories of gender/gender queerness and all that onto...things.
Uh oh the words are leaving me. Aaand I am starting to ramble anyway, so I'll leave it here. Obviously I did not source anything in this reply—I am really just summarising things off the top of my head so if you're truly interested in the subject, it's worth researching and verifying on your own. Maybe this response will give you ideas for jumping off points in any case.
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nemainofthewater · 4 months
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This poll might look a little familiar.... Due to a timing mix-up yesterday, I am proud to present the 'Best Non-Sword Weapon' poll take 2: Electric Boogaloo!
This time I've chosen to group the options by weapon with wielders in brackets*. Due to space issues, the media that each of them come from is under the read more, and this is definitely a non-exhaustive list!
*Except Xie Lian, who by virtue of winning the previous poll has been brought straight through to part two!
Thank you to everyone from the NiF discord and the watch party discord (and especially @shadaras) who have been amazing at suggesting characters with non-sword weapons! Couldn't have have done it without you! Also thank you to @thebansacredbanned who looked up the names of various obscure characters for me.
Propaganda, examples, and write-ins absolutely welcome!
Fan Wen Kexing (Word of Honour) Shen Qingqiu (SVSSS) Qing Ming (Yin Yang Master)
Umbrella Lord Grim (The King's Avatar) Chu Xuanji (Love and Redemption) Zhan Shiqi (Ancient Detective) Su Muyu (Blood of Youth)
Musical Instrument The Lan Sect (The Untamed) Wei Wuxian (The Untamed) Huang Yaoshi (Legend of the Condor Heroes)
Gun Wang Zhi (Sleuth of the Ming Dynasty) Fan Xian (Joy of life, novel)
Spear/Staff Sikong Qianluo (Blood of Youth) Hong Qigong (Legend of the Condor Heroes) Sun Wukong (Journey to the West) Guan Yu (Romance of the Three Kingdoms) Wu Zhu (Joy of Life)
Knives/Other Bladed Weapon Tang Lian (Blood of Youth) Yang Lu (A Journey to Love) Xiao Mei (House of Flying Daggers)
Whip Chu Wanning (Erha) Gu Xiang (Word of Honour) Jiang Cheng and Yu Ziyuan (The Untamed)
Bow and Arrows/Crossbow Bo Ya (Ying Yang Master) Yan Xiaoyi (Joy of Life) Mei Changsu (Nirvana in Fire, Novel) Xiao Yao, Fangfeng Yiying, and Fangfeng Bei (Lost You Forever) Strip of cloth Xie Lian (Heaven's Official Blessing)
Needles Gong Yu (Nirvana in Fire) Wen Qing (The Untamed)
Giant Bell Wu Xin (the Blood of Youth) Demon Monk (Mysterious Lotus Casebook)
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dangermousie · 3 months
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10 Characters That Make Me Feel Things
tagged by @imlivingformyselfdontmindme
Since I am tagged by a cdrama buddy, I am gonna limit it to cdramas.
Wolfie/Chu Youwen, The Wolf (2020). I enjoy drama characters often, but I never lust over them. Meet close to the sole exception. Anyone who was following me when this drama aired, remembers the insanity. I finally understood what groupies are on about.
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Xiao Qi, The Rebel Princess (2021) - the ur drama general, as far as I am concerned.
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Awu, The Rebel Princess (2021) - I would fight through insurmountable odds to get to her also.
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Jiang Xiao Yuan, Derailment (2023) - I am with @imlivingformyselfdontmindme she is everything and I am totally a JXY defender!
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Xiao Yao, Lost You Forever Part 1 (2023) - my FL of the year. She would be terrible as a partner and insurmountable amount of work but I can totally get why all these people chase her, I would too.
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Tushan Jing, LYF 1 (2023) - I want to make him sandwiches, give him a number of a great therapist and a genetics counselor and also some paper so he can scheme to help his girl's cousin take over the world as some sort of valentine's day present.
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Ji Ye, Novoland Eagle Flag (2019) - murder more people in the streets, I love you pls!
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Fan Xian, Joy of Life (2019) - mmmm
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Yi Xiao Chuan, The Myth (2019) - let me weep in peace. The power of overwhelming will and brain and decency. Being not enough to save a damn thing.
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Eighth Prince, Gong (2011) - the terrifying start of my finding queues sexy!
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Xiao Yi Qing, Listening Snow Tower (2019) and Su Mengzhen, Heroes (2022) - nobody's ever coughed this beautifully while slaughtering as these two.
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Yu Sifeng, Love and Redemption (2020) - duh
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Ren Ruyi and Ning Yuanzhou, A Journey to Love (2023) - of course.
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Shen Minglan and Gu Tingye, The Story of Minglan (2018) - my n1 drama and my n1 couple.
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Ning Que, Ever Night 1 (2019) - young killer with infinite softness for one tiny world-destroying servant. I loved this character.
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Ning Yi, The Rise of Phoenixes (2018) and Ye Hua, Three Lives (2017) - long hair obsessions.
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Tantai Jin, Till the End of the Moon (2023) - I've already talked war and peace amounts about this man.
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Yuan Hong in any drama.
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This is way more than 10 so gonna stop.
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sonderwrit · 3 months
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Caption: Angry to the point that one can do anything fearlessly Wang Yi: *sticks out tongue*
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Wang Yi: Hey. *A random day after the Heavenly Will's punishment when Wang Yi drinks himself drunk*You can also pretend it's an AU without the Main System Wang Yi: Didn't you say: "X's love is very twisted~ Twisted to the point that I wanted to leave a mark inside you" WY: And "I won't lose you again~ But you have to eat a piece of me~" WY: So where is it? (I can't remember exactly?) WY: It was acting, right?! Qin Xian: ? (Disciple's condition is getting worse and worse) WY: If it's forgotten after switching worlds then what's the *** use of your mark huh?! QX: You're drunk. WY: What to do? *grabs* QX: ? WY: What can I do so you remember? WY: If it's as effective as a kiss in fairy tales *leans in* WY: All right. *smooch* (It didn't work) END
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Take a look... The child in the photo... Will quickly turn into a fridge gong (top) with its double doors wide open! Wang Yi: Wah wah... WY: He was cuter when he was younger... WY: This cool white skin...will quickly grow into white chocolate...and milky-white snow, probably... WY: Wuwuwu... (crying) Why... *tears at the corners of his lips* Qin Xian: Hey. (What kind of improper things is he thinking) QX: I've got a bag of chicken-flavored guoba you want some WY: Yeah.
Artist: 小心狗男咬人
新年快乐!有很多想画的图还没画完[草泥马]把之前捏造的一点东西端出来发个超~ Happy New Year! There were lots of pics I wanted to draw but haven't finished [grass mud horse] Posting some stuff I did before~
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the-monkey-ruler · 2 months
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Chinese Mythology Stories (1983) 中國神話故事-西遊記
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Director: Chen Lie Screenwriter: Yeung Wai-Man Starrring: Jin Chao-Chun / Chang Fu-Chien / Sun Jia-Lin / Yang Hsiung / Barry Chan / Wu Xue-Fen / Zeng Ya-Jun / Yeung Wai-Man / Wang De-Zhi / Chiang Kuang-Chao / Ko Hsiao-Pao Genre: Fantasy Country: Taiwan Language: Mandarin Date: 1983-05-31 Number of episodes: N/A Also known as: 中国神话故事 Type: Retelling
Summary:
Several folk legends from different dynasties are actually gathered together. Nezha, Jigong, Door God, Xu Xian, Bai Suzhen... Could it be that these characters are going to gather together to perform some kind of comedy?! Don't make blind guesses! They came together just to show some kind of "propaganda effect"; to promote the upcoming "Chinese Mythology Story"; these legendary characters will all bring out a touching Chinese mythology story. "Chinese Mythical Stories" is a unit theater that CTV will open at 1:00 pm on weekends. Currently, the recording of three unit stories of "Nezha", "Ji Gong" and "The Legend of White Snake" has been completed. It is scheduled to start on May 28 or Saturday. Launched on the 4th. Wang Weijiang went from the front to the back, and co-produced the "Chinese Mythology" unit theater with Wei Xin to realize an ideal, that is, to introduce various folk beliefs through the moving myths and stories circulated in our country's long history of thousands of years. In the creation of the protagonist's character, special emphasis is placed on his method of becoming an immortal and attaining enlightenment - inner cultivation and saving people and saving the world, in order to remind the audience that faith should not be turned into superstition. Such a theme has considerable social and educational significance. Wang Weijiang said that "Chinese Mythical Stories" is a social and educational program produced in the form of drama. It is quite difficult for the social education style and drama type to deeply move people's hearts; because this is equivalent to using the strengths of drama - the drama of twists and turns to make up for the shortcomings of social education - the rigid boring feeling; the "Chinese mythology story" The production is exploring such a new route. If successful, it will be a major breakthrough for TV programs. Judging from the production method of "Chinese Myth Stories", this "new line" that breaks the boundaries between drama and social education has great potential and great potential. The legendary mythical story, through DPE's latest TV effects machine, makes the picture show magical special effects, how fascinating it will be! Since it is a myth, it can perform special effects, and the scenes can be as magical and varied as possible.
Source: https://en.hkcinema.ru/film/20385
Link: N/A
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sarah-yyy · 4 months
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these brackets tho……..
i thought hu ge had it in the bag but li xian just got a whole surge of votes so………. also???? XIAO BAI????!??
gong jun/long-ge fans: i am so dbq🧎🏻‍♀️
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colourme-feral · 11 days
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Big Dragon locations IRL (6/??)
Big Dragon: The temple
IRL: Wat Dhammakatanyu (Xian Lo Dai Tien Gong), 5 ซอยมูลนิธิธรรมกตัญญู ถนนสุขุมวิท Bang Pu Mai, Mueang Samut Prakan District, Samut Prakan 10280, Thailand
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Credit: https://shorturl.at/gpEN7
Big Dragon IRL locations・Other IRL locations
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laconicearthling · 8 hours
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Chinese Actors As Home Screen Aesthetic🫶🏻✨
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jiangwanyinscatmom · 9 months
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I saw your like/dislike game about mdzs. And it piqued my interest about the matter of bottoming or topping, WangXian and/or XianWang.
I definitely love the canon dynamic, about the pretty and delicate mind-LWJ being a seme, and the charming Laozu-Xian being the uke instead. And I absolutely love the proactive and manly/boyish (in his every thinking and actions) Shou/Uke-WWX, which, unfortunately, is extremely rare in BL stories.
When it comes to pairing, I must say, respect the Canon please, because canon is already unique and Original.
However, there's also smth else that intrigued me. Genuinely, ofc we have to respect wangxian, the author said A so don't twist it into B or Z.
But in terms of possibility, I personally think WangXian isn't absolute. What I mean is that; LWJ doesn't chose to be the top because he regarded himself as "a should be Top", or WWX doesn't become a bottom because he regarded himself as a "I like it in the ass". IMO, WangXian sex life dynamic is not whether they're strictly or vehemently want to be the Top or Bottom, but more like: their desire, their liking, them compromising to each other's passion.
LWJ's desire to have all of wwx is obvious, which is why he becomes the top because he wants to feel and have all of wwx. While WWX himself, desires lwj as ardently and loves the man so dearly, which is why he is willing at first and later finds himself loving it, being dominated by his lover.
Their sex life dynamic isn't about LWJ proudly only want to be the TOP and refuse to lower his male dignity as in ever becoming a bottom. Neither it is about WWX can't get his dicgg up or being unable to fucgg someone else because he can only get it off using asss.
Sorry for the dirty words but well, that's why I think, speaking about originality ofc it must be WangXian, but when it comes to possibility, XianWang isn't an absolute impossibility.
Because IMO, wangxian sex life is about making their lover feels good, to be connected physically with their lover. LWJ becomes a top because he feels good about dominating wwx and knows that WWX wants him as well. And WWX becomes a bottom because he wishes lwj to feel pleasure and also because he yearns for lwj, in any form.
At first, when wwx knows nothing about gay sex, we can see in the novel that WangXian intimate activities is not about bottoming or topping. It is not about wwx waiting for lwj to "do something" to him like most BL couples nsfw scenes were like. But instead, It is wwx pleasuring lwj and guiding lwj to make him feels good as well.
We can see from this dynamic that WWX is not an absolute Shou/Uke who, absolutely, wouldn't take the initiative to fucgg his lover.
I wholeheartedly love WangXian dynamic which overturn all of BL shou/gong stereotypes. But I don't think LWJ must be an absolute TOP or WWX must be an absolute BOTTOM, like how other gay couples are.
To put it simply, WangXian sex dynamic is not absolute. It is just their preference and desire, and also the result of consideration toward each other's fascination.
LWJ being a TOP doesn't mean he feels disdain to be a bottom or feeling his male dignity will be trampled if he ever do so.
WWX being a BOTTOM doesn't mean he can't fucgg others and can only get it off by his asss.
And that is why, if in any possibility, lwj ever desires wwx to fill him up, in my understanding of wwx, he will gladly do so, and oh boy wwx is absolutely able to please lwj thoroughly as well.
Or if in any possibility, wwx ever desires to be inside lwj, then in my understanding of lwj, just like he said: "Try and see if I will refuse you anything..." he will not, like a pompous prideful male chauvinist, refuse to bottoming.
Anyway that's it😅😅
Seeing that post of yours about wangxian or xianwang somehow makes me want to say all this~
Ps: Btw while I see XianWang as a possibility, but I unfortunately detest a lot of XianWang fanworks! since most fans more often than not, will make my Lan Zhan be tortured emotionally and physically---as for Wei Ying, he will become a scumbag or, yes like you said another dogblood "Chasing to the crematorium"-story, another ErHa...
No thank you as well as this really does expand on how I feel and think of this in depth!
Theoretically I think they can switch based on story cues! It's what makes the fanon smut so interesting to actually explore! But they rely on stereotypical danmei pair tropes in execution. It's not made to stay true to Wangxian as characters in the bulk of them. I have also never been one for chasing to the crematorium plots, they are a hard sell for me and Wangxian at an intrinsical bond, can't be negative towards the cores of what makes them so similar and equal.
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