#I'm curious if my theory about what goes down next episode is actually true or not

[lover-of-mine]

Your last post is funny bc just TODAY I watched that season finally. I’m literally 2 episodes into season 5 right now. As someone who just watched that for the first time (and hadn’t noticed it WAS the season finally when I started watching it) I was losing my goddamn MIND watching those episodes. Just constantly 😯😯😯. I began watching 911 when I started seeing posts circulating about Buck being bi. At the time I had no idea who he was other than the occasional gif set but it made me intrigued and I have been HOOKED. Literally trying to get through as many episodes as possible so I can watch the episodes live. Questions for you (since I have no one else to talk to about the show); when did you start watching? Have you had any predictions while watching the show that didn’t/ did come true? Like for me when I watched season 1 and Abby went to the fire department for the first time I SWORE up and down that her and Bobby were meant to be endgame (was clearly wrong lol). But also after Chris got stuck in the Tsunami I called it that something would happy to Harry later on (just a feeling that no one was safe lol, not even the kids). I’m just so curious to see what the fandom theories have been over time lol since I missed out on it!

Yeah, no, watching suspicion/survivors for the first time is WILD. Like, imma be honest and bit oversharing, I watched the show for the first time in a depressive episode, so I watched everything up to 5x10 in like, 6 days according to the posts I made on Tumblr about it, so I didn't realize theorize about anything, I was just hitting next episode like my life depended on it. But I didn't know anything about the show, like, at all, I had just watched 911 lone star in a weekend because it was on the tv and there were only like, 20 episodes of it out it at the time and a network in my country was just showing all of them on a loop, and I opened the Disney app fully intending to rewatch grey's anatomy, and 911 was the first show on my recommended to you list, and I had liked lone star enough, and was like sure why not. And I legit couldn't stop watching. All of this happened the week before 5x11 aired on the us, so 5x11 was the first episode I watched like "live" (the first episode I actually watched live was 5x16) but I watched it in the same week, I think I finished on a Tuesday? And the episode aired on Monday. I can't really give you any theories I have witnessed so far because they would be spoilers tho, but if you wanna come back once you catch up we can talk about some of the madness that goes around here. But I had the same thing happen to me, I didn't realize it was the season finale, and I didn't know anything about the show, so I had no idea what was happening, and I thought I had learned my lesson with the tsunami arc, because I watched 3x01 at like 3 am fully saying this is the last episode I will watch and then I'm gonna go to bed, and then the tsunami hit, and I was like well fuck and then Chris fell in the water and next thing I know is 5 am and Eddie is making me cry at the end there. But I saw the 13 and didn't realize the season only had 14 episodes and then everything kept happening. I seriously cannot imagine what it was like to be forced to wait a week between those 2 episodes it was SO CRAZY. When Eddie got shot I legit froze. Watching that for the first time not knowing it's coming is SOMETHING. I do remember thinking that they were gonna kill Shannon but I didn't expect to be right, I also remember clocking that Jason was Doug pretty fast. Something funny tho, I remember posting that meme that's like "I've had blank for 1 day and a half but if anything happened to him I'd kill everyone in this room and myself" with Buck and I waited until I had been watching for a day and a half, that means I posted it while watching the season 2 finale. I hit post and the truck blew up and I legit went like ????????? and that is still the most ironic thing that ever happened to me while posting about 911 kspskspkspakapkapa (here's the post, I actually came back to edit the tags because I was in shock lol) and I laugh every time I remember that lol but I'm glad you're enjoying the show, you can come back to talk to me about it any time!;

[satelliteinasupernova]

Lol, was honestly planning on keeping these thoughts to myself because, you know, the energy in the room, but I do honestly think that this subject will be much less relevant after this week, so yolo I guess.

My Jabitha thoughts:

First of all, I don’t actually think Jughead and Tabitha are going to date or anything, I just don’t think that’s how the plots are aligning right now (A messier version of this set up would have Betty dating someone else because she doesn’t think Jughead is interested in being with her so she’s trying to move on, in which case, I do think Jabitha would have a fair shot. BUT I DIGRESS)

I do think that Jughead and Tabitha will have a moment, though. And I guess that specifically is what I wanted to talk about, how I would hope that a moment would address Tabitha’s arc with Jughead in 5a. I’ve been trying to visualize what it could be, something that respects Tabitha as a character, as someone Jughead would honestly be lucky to date, as someone who is more than just a plot device used for Jughead to bounce ideas off of and help him get back on his feet.

I would honestly like them to have a moment. I want them to realize that this could be a thing, even if it doesn’t happen. Just a moment where Jughead realizes if they pursued this, being with Tabitha could be a really good thing for him. Yes, I do believe that Jughead is still in love with Betty, and that he knows that, but that doesn’t mean there can’t be a road less travelled moment, a realization that maybe there isn’t one road to happiness. (And ftr this would in no way discount Jughead choosing Betty! In fact, I think the idea of choice is pretty damn romantic)

People keep throwing out the word “threat,” like if you aren’t “threatened” by the prospect of Jughead and Tabitha dating as a bughead fan, you aren’t “respecting” Tabitha, which like. Maybe I do see her as a “threat” to the status quo, I think Tabitha and Jughead could be happy together, could, dare I say, fall in love with each other (*SCARE CHORD*). This doesn’t take anything away from my love of bughead, but YMMV I GUESS.

To get to the point, there was this whole scene with Jessica early in the season where she was like “I don’t know what you need, but it’s not me.” And the person Jughead has needed for the first half of the season, the person who gave him a chance by giving him a job, who has kept him on his feet, who has been there right now, has been Tabitha. And I think it’s okay to acknowledge it, to recognize the potential there, for maybe even the characters to recognize the potential there, without idk, abandoning ship.

tldr: I think Tabitha is a wonderful character, she has great chemistry with Jughead, she’s been a person he’s really needed right now, she’s cute as hell, and it’s okay for him to recognize that, whether anything comes of it or not.

Or maybe they do date, which you know, could be really cute. And y’all can sit back and just chill.

But what do I know, who am I. I’ve just spent the last 3 years consistently drawing and writing bughead, but you know, clearly appreciating Jabitha means I hate Betty now, or whatever it is the kids are saying this week.

[ladytauria]

Now I'm curious, what theories do you have about the reason Sparx distrust Antauri?

I’ve talkedabout them before here,and here—withanother lovely anon, who got me to really analyze their relationship. So I’mjust gonna summarize all of my theories here so they’re in one place! :D (And Ido have an Antauri + Sprx tag for discussions on their relationship! However Ithink I need to edit the tag to something easier to type in the URL.)

Okay, so in S1and S2, Antauri and Sprx are close. Its not explicitly stated, but I’m comingto realize now that this show does a lotin subtext. (Man, I wish I had been more into analyzing media as a kid. And Iwish I was better about doing it on my own now.) I’ve been mentioning thisscene all the time lately, but I’llmention it again now—the first one that comes to mind is from Snowbound, whenSprx jumps off the Robot and just shares a glance with Antauri to let him knowhe’ll be fighting the ice monster with them. IDK, the moment just gives me thewarm fuzzies. So they start out with that…

And thencomes S3. Specifically, Ghost in the Machinder. The subtext in this one is…basically just text. Sprx says the Super Robot can’t have a soul because it’sjust a machine, and then the rest of the episode is about how Antauri is also amachine now. Fully. No fleshy bits anymore. Antauri of course defends the SuperRobot, Sprx argues with him—and you could say he just missed the point here,still unused to Antauri’s new form—but… even if he recants at the end,Antauri and Sprx seem more strained throughout the rest of S3 and S4. But why? Obviouslywe don’t know for sure, but these are all the theories/reasons I’ve come upwith so far:

Firstone was suggested by an Anon here,and it is honestly something I should have considered but didn’t, so thank youto them for bringing it to my attention! I’ve added things to it, but the barebones was theirs. In the I, Chiro Saga, Chiro goes off to face Skeleton Kingalone, only to have Antauri wake and follow him. He doesn’t wake the others—he justgoes. And when he gets there, he sacrifices himself to the Dark One Worm withseemingly no intention of actually coming back. So I can see where Sprx wouldfeel antagonistic towards him.

Thenyou have the fact that Antauri is a very distant, sagely character who oftenkeeps a blank face and hides what he’s feeling from the rest of the group. Now,he’s in a fully robotic body, and likely has even more control over how hepresents himself to the group. Which adds another layer of distance—but alsoremoves his old tells. I’m sure he has new ones, but they’re re-getting to knowhim in some ways.

Nextup is another theory that came through a discussion with an Anon, because youguys seem to prompt me to really turn over what I remember about the show andhow I interpret the characters. It’s a lot of fun! Anyway. So, this theorydeals with the fact that Antauri wasn’t very close with Chiro in the first 1and a half seasons. In fact, it wasn’t until the I, Chiro saga that we saw any largechanges to their relationship. By this point, Chiro knows of his Chosen Onedestiny and he has begun to accept it more fully… and that’s when Antauri warmsup to him. So, it could be interpreted—wrongly—that Antauri only cares aboutthe Chosen One aspect of things. (I actually subconsciously play with this in “TheCycle Starts Again” though it hasn’t come up yet.) So Sprx is angry on Chiro’sbehalf.

Now,this is one of my favorites because of all the potential fic ideas, but— Sprx isa very pessimistic person who doesn’t trust easily. Or, at least, he comes offthat way—but given the way he acts, I’m willing to believe that’s real. (I alsobelieve that it’s a way of distancing himself to keep from getting hurt, giventhe danger that they’re in and how many times they’ve been betrayed, but that’sanother discussion.) So, my theory is… he believes that Antauri’s return is toogood to be true. Maybe he believes that the real Antauri didn’t come back, andthis is a fake—or maybe he believes that Antauri’s time is finite, that there’sa deadline, and he wants to make their second parting as painless as possible.(Which never works, but emotions aren’t logical.) Maybe he believes Antauri didn’tcome back whole. Whatever it is, his trust in Antauri was broken in some way.

So. Thatcovers Sprx’s side of things—which is a tad bit easier because there are lotsof reasons for him to be angry withAntauri. Antauri’s side is harder, but there are a few options.

Thefirst one is the obvious one. Antauri is hurt that years of trust and respecthave gone down the drain for something he (possibly) can’t control, and he’s lashingout in turn. Because for all his poker face, there is a real monkey down inthere somewhere, and real monkeys get hurt. He’s reacting to Sprx’s anger andhis own hurt.

Thesecond one is that Sprx is right, and Antauri didn’t come back whole. But that’s…not so much a theory as it is an idea for an AU. So it probably doesn’t belongon this list, but… you know, I like it, so it gets to stay :P

Third—andwe go back into actual THEORY territory—is that Antauri doesn’t return Sprx’santagonism. Instead, he felt it directed at him and shut down. There is nothingon Antauri’s side. Not that he doesn’t feel anything, but that he doesn’t letany of it escape, as a sort of shield to protect himself. Because for all thathe advises others, Antauri is really, really bad with emotion. (@youareshauni speculates its because of the Verans (whom she compared to the Jedi Order inthe prequel trilogy, and I agree) training.) So he shuts down. In Fire of Hate,when he’s prepared to take down Sprx? It’s because he would want the others totake down him if he was ever in thatsituation. (Or he’s kind of returning the favor, of when Sprx DID take him down,during Night of Fear.)

Now I dothink that things in S4 are slightly less antagonistic between the two of them.They work together just fine in Evil Ages, after all. But I think they stillhave a way to go before they really have the bond that they had in S1 and S2.