putting tavris on the same level as crotuna
You did that yourselves, I wanted other ships to be the finalists.
fixating on hating vriska again
Idgaf about Vriska. She still crippled Tavros, killed trolls, blinded Terezi, and forced Sollux to kill Aradia. And that's only before their session started. She killed Tavros. Mituna calls Cronus bro and makes fun of him. He doesn't give a shit. Tavris is objectively worse than Crotuna and the dancestors are tertiary characters that don't matter.
and shipping a mentally disabled man with his grown ass abuser that wants him dead + the ableist misogynistic bootlicker that stalks his gf,
This is the last time I will say it. Read the comic and form your own opinions instead of adopting a headcanon as if that actually happened. What Cronus says or thinks is useless to discuss ad infinitum because CRONUS HIMSELF doesn't matter. He didn't do ANYTHING useful in the story, and he didn't kill or cripple anyone unlike Vriska /AND/ Kurloz, who is actually Mituna's abuser because he's his moirail who disabled him in the first place and actually has said genocidal statements. HE is the one that wants Mituna and everyone else dead, and actually did things to achieve that.
Read THIS:
KURLOZ: LET HER TRY TO RAISE HER PATHETIC ARMY OF SOULS. SHE WILL BE DOUBLE SLAIN BY OUR LORD LIKE ALL THE OTHER MIRTHLESS HERETICS
KURLOZ: AND POUR SOME SWEET SWILL OUT FOR THE SOULS WHO SOON WONT BE NO MORE
#:o)
So why didn't you vote for Meuloz or Kurtuna to be a finalist instead anon? Those are more comparable to Tavris.
Second one is Kankri, I think. What's even wrong with shipping Kantuna? Because Kankri is the only one that pointed out that someone with a tbi shouldn't be doing a high risk sport and hitting his head further if he still hasn't recovered? Even though they are all dead so it doesn't matter if Mituna hurts himself so that means he is just worried for Mituna's health? And why is he misogynistic? Because he disagreed with Porrim? Is Porrim casteist and misandrist because she disagreed with Kankri and unironically said that HIC did nothing wrong and put all the blame of HER crimes on Lord English? Why would Latula say she's glad she's friends with Kankri if he was stalking her?????
like crontuna or kantuna is sm better than davekat
They are, if only because they piss you hypocrites off so much. Therefore,
Kankri <> Mituna, aka "Are We Still Friends: The origins" aka "Troll Megaman and Protoman" aka "Sk8r Boi and Tumblrino" aka "Canon and Real", h*lding h*nds but also sloppy makeouts under the moonlight is better than davekat and kurtuna
Quote in question from Openbound.
Kankri ♦️ Mituna aka Kanned Tuna is better than Davekat.
Mituna sprite and BG frofm @befriendus
Kankri sprite by QueenofBunniez
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Ship bingo: kurl<>tuna and/or kankri<3<mituna
ok so i had full paragraphs written out for both of them but i accidentally ctrl+z-deleted them 😭 so im just gonna try and summarise what i had.
kur<>tuna:
i think they are both interesting pairings but very different in how they're portrayed in canon vs fanon.
my opinion of kur<>tuna has chaged a bit over time, while i still like them and hid them interesting/fun in a shippy way, these two have some heavy lore that is left rlly ambigious that i wish was explored more and does allude to potentially rlly fucked up shit going on in their session past i dont know if id want to entertain.
alas what is a moiralligeance without some level of unhealthyness though? cant deny it adds flavour. these two definatly give me emotionally co-dependate vibes and while that probably isnt the best for either of them, what is there left to do while dead for the rest of eternity? as a relationship they would be so soft, kurloz in general i think would be so after the accident with meulin but i feel like the best part of being moirails for them would be to be able to wind down from the hecticness around them all the time, and to just exist with another person.
I also rlly the like themes of communication between them, whether it be through chucklevoodoos or sign language i think that it would be one of the few relationships mituna has where he can fully communicate with another person and be understood (and wouldnt feel the need to apologize to all the time). and besides maybe latula, kurloz is also not effected by his cassandra syndrome as a witness to his accident.
kankri<3<mituna:
i dont rlly like ships being in spades where their hatred stems from another quadrant/quadrant jelousy that much 🤷♂️
i always feel like their more likely to ruin the other relationship before falling in hatred seperate from the jelousy and having a kismesistude focused on them rather than a third party, and then whatever hatred stems fromt that would be wayy to out of control and noone would wanna autipice between that. (if any of that makes sence i hope it does 😭).
plus like, i really dont like how abelist kankri is to mituna. and seeing it as mocking his diability as a form of pitch flirting/pitch hatred just feels rlly uncomfortable. it is very much punching down (at someone who already has to deal with cronus of all ppl) and i dont rlly like it srry.
i have read au fanfics based on alternia where they are <3 or <> that i really enjoyed! but again fanon characterization is very different XP.
i DO see the ex's box though and think that would be absolutely hilarious. mituna gets mad bitches XDDD.
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Small Atomic Ask Bomb!!
I've got a bunch of short asks that I'd hate to spam the dash with individually, so I'll just put 'em here, under the cut!!
Content Warning: Long, Brief Discussions of Racism, Misogyny, Grooming, Brief Mentions of Incest and Pedophilia in Fanfiction.
I've always been a hater, and I honestly don't really think it's a bad thing - not as much as everyone says, at least! I think being kind of a bitch about things that don't matter is good for you, actually. Gets the urge to be angry out in a way that's healthier than just snapping at people in critical moments. I also just think being strong and passionate in your convictions is good for you. Being a hater gives you a spine if you do it right, and it fires a gunshot and scatters people you don't really want to be around. It also has the funny side effect of people thinking I take things way more seriously than I do, just because I'm opinionated and will state said opinions clearly.
Big fan of this meme:
This is me.
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I used to peek in there every now and then, just to be nosy. Incest at the top, always. Or straight up pedo shit. Sigh.
Looked in the Mituna tag a couple times. CroTuna fucking nightmare hell dimension, always. Or KanTuna, which I also have gripes with. Or KanMiTula, which I have even more gripes with.
It is my understanding that the state of Homestuck fanfiction hasn't gotten much better since the 2010s. Everyone is wrong and no one is normal. Sad.
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I don't know if the mere act of only making Jade and Jake brown out of all the Kids is Racist on its own, per se, but it is kinda silly in the sense that, you know, John and Jade are siblings, so realistically they'd look similar. And... People absolutely do get racist about it. Like, making Jade and Jake uniquely huge, hairy, threatening, and oddly shaped - gangly in the context of Jade, buff as hell in the context of Jake.
I've seen some SEVERELY racist drawings where Jade and/or Jake were the only hints of melanin in the Kid line up and... Oh my god. It can get to straight up caricature levels. Watermelons and everything. Just comedically racist.
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Genuinely one of the dumbest fucking things in the world. People will say literally anything. Saying Damara isn't Japanese is on par with calling Porrim a fucking Men's Rights Activist. It's a funny little claim people who are grievously wrong say as a condemnation of the Alpha Trolls for no reason. Why. To look smart? To fit in? Dumbass.
Notice how they always have to invent bullshit lies to critique anything instead of just saying things that are true. It really frustrates me how 99.9% of Alpha Troll criticism just isn't at all legitimate when there's some real, genuine issues you could critique. It's stupid horseshit. I hate it so badly.
I don't actually care whether or not someone likes the Alpha Trolls, but at least hate them accurately. Come on.
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@sleepy-apparition
Everyone is so, so quick to turn a blind eye to just how violently misogynistic Kankri is, lmfao. Genuinely, I don't think I've ever seen anyone other than myself bring up the fact that he's an avid Slut-Shamer in the modern day. Other than that, I only really saw older Mituna fanatics bring it up over in the early-mid 2010s, but none of them are around these days.
Genuinely, some of the shit he says is so appalling, lol. Kankri FULLY deserves to get his ass beat.
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I have said this before but I'll say it again - I do not think a Red Romantic Relationship will fix Dirk, or even really help him all that much. Before he gets into a RedRom, he needs some therapy, a break, and mood stabilizers.
However, I'm thoroughly of the opinion that a good BlackRom could work wonders on him, way more than a RedRom would. I think a solid, established Pitch Relationship with, like, Caliborn would be genuinely great for him, both mentally and in a Character Development sense. I hold zero interest in watching Dirk and Jake badly fumble a traditional romantic relationship - that notion is painful to me.
... But I do think I could read a full Intermission's worth of Dirk and Caliborn fucking around and not get tired of it once. They have a fantastic dynamic. It'd be good for Caliborn, too, I think.
This has been my Dirkuu propaganda bit. Thank you.
Also, the Voyeuristic feel of how people handle his Mental Illness. It makes me uncomfortable.
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True. I don't have any other remarks to make about this, you're just correct. True.
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... Fuckin'... Why, though? What- what's the appeal? There's nothing there. I literally cannot conceive any way in which that would be compelling, and I'd say Hal and Kankri are pretty high up there in the list of Male Homestuck Characters I Enjoy.
People will do anything but pay attention to Female Characters for five minutes. God. Lol.
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It's literally just DaveKat 2. I don't think it even qualifies as a Crack Ship when it's just a variant of The Fandom's Most Darling M/M OTP.
It's just a deeply mid RarePair. Crack Ship would be, like, Dirk Strider x Rainbow Dash.
Dirk x RD was a popular Crack Ship, sure, but it's still a Crack Ship on basis of being a Crossover Pairing.
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I can't recall any specific instances of seeing this myself, but I'll believe it. People will do anything except be normal about Vriska. People will fight the war against Vriska on the side of and against Vriska at the same time. People will call her a Huge 8itch but then call her pathetic when she stops being a Huge 8itch.
We love Misogyny, I guess.
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Well, he is based on Tumblr, after all. Particularly how dogshit the politics are on here. Of course he would. He'd do numbers on here, considering his Woke Hate Speech.
It's called Bubblr, by the way. Like, canonically. We do know what it's called.
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It's actually based on the Three Wise Monkeys. You know, that old Japanese Proverb that goes "See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil"? That.
Kurloz is Speak No Evil, Meulin is Hear No Evil, Mituna is See No Evil.
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Great Question. My personal guess is that he's a little too nuanced for a lot of people to be comfortable with handling. He throws out too much surface-level Bigotry that people aren't willing to ignore because it isn't Racism for many to feel comfortable making him their Blorbo. When Dave says the N-Word and talks about how fucking Racist he is and it literally never gets acknowledged or resolved, that's fine and dandy, but god forbid Caliborn be a Misogynist in the funniest way possible AND have that get acknowledged literally constantly as a problem. The fact that Caliborn isn't a Fuckable White 13-Year-Old Twink means none of his crimes are ever forgivable because he's ugly and unshippable, or whatever.
The fact that he's Mentally Disabled doesn't help. People can't fucking STAND IT when a character is Mentally Disabled in a way that isn't Cute and Consumable, much less a character who is Unconsumably Mentally Disabled AND Complicated. It's just not allowed!!
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