#Sea Beast Spoilers

[imagine-darksiders]

Me: Kind of craving one of those stories where a rugged and charismatic dude slowly grows from reluctant father-figure into fully-fledged dad to a feisty, orphan girl.

Sea Beast:

[vinnybox02]

Me showing my OCs to my friends/making OCs

[ruelukas22]

About Captain Crow’s Deal with Batterbie, and the Price he Paid

Batterbie is, first and foremost, a witch. Disney witches do not give straightforward deals. (And look, I know this isn’t Disney, but do I really need to point out all the references and character archetypes and their usages and subversions?) Some are more straightforward than other, with Ursula taking Ariel’s legs, but that was never Ursula’s end goal. The witch in brave turned her mother into a bear to fix Merida’s problem. Batterbie, is, by far, the clearest about what she’s costing. Crow just didn’t understand the price. Batterbie straight up told Crow that she would take everything. Specifically including the things Crow was not aware he had. Things Crow was not aware he could lose, even.

See, at the point in the movie where Crow goes to Batterbie, knowing he was giving up his honor, he also thought he’d lost his son. So, he was going to get one thing. His revenge, and in doing so, allow people to continue hunting. He already knew this was his last hunt. But at least he’d get something out of it. (He wouldn’t, of course, but he didn’t know that.)

Now I want to clarify this was not an out of the blue progression of Crow’s character. He was always ready to do the dishonorable thing for revenge, even revenge as simple as an injury. (Assuming his dead light only referred to his missing eye. I am also assuming if he’d lost crew to Red, he’d have mentioned that a bit more.) Crow was willing to leave another hunting ship’s crew to die simply for the chance to kill Red. It’s Jacob that reminds him of his duty and honor. And later, during the fight with Red in the whirlpool, it’s again Jacob that chooses duty and honor, saving the crew and the ship by allowing Maisie to cut the rope. So loosing Jacob lost Crow his moral compass as well as Crow’s vision of the future. This is why I say Crow didn’t think he had anything to lose.

Then Crow uses the god’s hand. And he doesn’t finish it. He doesn’t listen to Sharpe. His crew is already reasonably wary of him. And Jacob is back! Everything is going right. He delivers Red to the king and Queen’s little pond. And Jacob turns on him. Sharpe, “the most loyal first mate who ever lived”, turns on him. The Beast is alive and he can’t kill it. His ship is smashed to pieces, and his crew abandon ship. If you watch that scene again? No one is his crew is helping him. No one is fighting Red. Sure they might be in the water, but surely someone could have made it to some debris and shoot arrows. Anyone. But no. His crew wasn’t willing to fight for him. Then Jacob’s little speech. No more hunting. Maisie’s speech. His entire life, and the life of his father’s before him, was manipulated by the crown for money. He is without history. He is without a future. He has only his life, thanks to a little girl who wasn’t really even trying to save him, but the beast he’s been trying to kill. It’s not even dead. It’s just. He’s alone now. No honor. No one loyal to him. No crew, no ship, no job, no family. Truly. He lost everything.

[lochlot-moved]

i really enjoyed sea beast but the whole time red reminded me a bunch of toothless. [SPOILERS] crazy how a movie abt a child eager to join a war against beasts and kill beasts and then has a change of heart after prolonged eye contact with the most legendary of all the beasts and they ride off into the sunset together was similar to httyd. anyway loved all the women empowerment and diversity

[pocketvikings]

So. I never post anything on here, but I need to scream into the void, because I watched The Sea Beast this weekend and I've been chewing on it.

The thing is: I really like the movie both visually, characterwise and for the themes it wants to get at. But it has some baffling narrative choices that I feel set the themes up to fail? Spoilers ahead btw. I don't know how to do readmore on mobile, sorry

So like. They set up this wonderful critique of colonialism and the way aggressors can frame themselves as the victims, as well as how the people who then actually commit violence can still be good and even heroic people who just don't have all the facts. And they succeed really well in this! But they never explain why the aggression even happened, what the colonizers were gaining. There's no resources in it for them, because they don't harvest the monsters or colonize their islands. I assume that what they did gain was access to trade routes, but this is never really explained? Or where they were trading to if they still have no idea what's beyond the sea with the monsters? To me, this seems like a crucial piece of the story, especially to make sense of the ending, where they just... stop going to sea at all, apparently?

Maybe this is me having a colonizer mindset, I don't know! Maybe it was supposed to emphasize that the humans have no right to the monsters' territories! But to me it just feels so unsatisfactory. They found out they can coexist with the monsters! They found out they can even ride them and work together with them! Why would the "good ending" be a completely segregated society?

Maybe nobody cares. Maybe my ramblings aren't making sense at all. Maybe someone has a different take here? Would love to hear it

[stuck-in-jelly]

Cant stop thinking about that line from The Sea Beast that Maisie says:

"I have every right to speak! I come from a long line on Hunters, that died your great death. Your Kingdom was paid for with their blood! And their blood"

The clear message of the effects of nationalism and imperialism can have on the people, the land, and their history how it can quickly take over and use its lower class citizens as pawns for their dirty work.

How Maisie changes from seeing her parents as great war heros to victims to the crown as so many others were human and sea beast alike.

Anyways watch The Sea Beast

[subsequentibis]

having now seen the sea beast and some reactions to it: i think it is actually very important and meaningful that the story didn’t have maisie become like a sea monster biologist! i think it’s really important that they decided to simply stop interacting with the creatures at all and leave the deeper waters to them. i think people forget or aren’t aware of the ways science and scientific pursuit has propped up or been used as a justification for imperialism and expansionism and colonialism. it’s not a neutral profession or goal. of course for us, the audience, it would have been really fun and cool and interesting to learn more about the creatures and maybe even see humans bonding with them, but that’s really not in line with the message of the movie and it’s honestly refreshing that they went that route.

[geekgirles]

[paracosm299]

Red really said: “I’ve had Maisie and Jacob for a day and a half, and if that crab eats them, I’ll kill everything on this island and then myself.”

[tarantula-hawk-wasp]

Things I love about The Sea Beast that stand out on my 3rd watch

-the inlaid stone floors of the palace, reflecting a real impressive art form from that era

-the number of gender ambiguous and androgynous background characters

-the way Jacob keeps having to slightly hike up his weighed down belt, which has such an animated weight to it

-I love the Captain Crow song

-the number of incredible precision shots Jacob throws with his lance and then how bad he is at spear fishing

-you really do get to watch the arc of Jacob and Blue becoming the inseparable “dad and the pet he didn’t want” dynamic… like he uses Blue as a reading light

- the sextant scene

-THE BLOOD TRANSFUSION SCENE like some use of real old time medicine and fueling my emotions over these characters like he gave her lifeblood

-the details of the carved wood all over the movie and the patterns in fabrics ugh there’s so much aesthetic in the movie ugh and the TEXTURES everywhere tangible textures

- the way Jacob rubs Maisie’s shoulder at the end ugh that’s just such a gesture 

[opinionatedoctopus]

THE SEA BEAST SPOILERS

“Listen to the child”

Yes! Please! Let’s listen to the children who still look at war and violence with terror and revulsion instead of resignation. Instead of “this is how it’s always been.” It takes a child to ask “why?” It takes a child to look at the bad parts of our world and ask why no one has bothered to change it.

But it also takes every last person in the chain of command to put a weapon down. To make the personal choice to no longer stand for an unnecessary war. “Shouldn’t we fire?” One man asks. “No,” says the woman in command. Each person who hesitated to fire when the queen gave orders. If any one of them had fired, as we know from Jacob firing the gun, would’ve broken the moment to lay down arms. Each person’s decision to choose peace impacted the end of the war.

I will live a long, happy life. Because dying a great death, an honorable death, is a myth to idolize war by those who profit off of war. The ones who only have power when there is fighting. And none of those who died are dishonorable or no longer a hero, right? They knew no other option. They can be wrong and still be heroes.

This movie fights against the influx of child soldier media by simply asking to no longer need soldiers.

I hope we all can live a long, happy life.

[bloodpen-to-paper]

*Points at chart* Watch them

[freaky-little-genius]

so the princesses we have are

• rosamund

• elody

• cinderella

• snow white

• the princess by the sea/the little mermaid

• the beast

• rapunzel

[outislovescomics]

sorry you're not getting any intelligent thoughts out of me for the next 7-12 hours

[demigoddessqueens]

They’re not the step-fathers, they’re the fathers that STEPPED UP!!

[gio-scrabbles]

I like to think that each beast that wasn’t named in the Sea Beast would still be referred based on their colors. Like Red and Blue.

This beast would be called Green.

The little ones behind them could all be called Yellow. Maybe with different labels to differentiate each of them.

And this one is called Purple.