#a bit of fun with their inner/outer selves basically

[faiell]

HD Tarot Fest Art Claim - The World 🌎✨

XXI. The World

The world? Only the space between their palms.

Upright: completion, achievement, fulfilment, sense of belonging, wholeness, harmony Reversed: lack of closure, lack of achievement, feeling incomplete, emptiness

It was a lot of fun to design this tarot card. Thanks to the lovely mods for all their work in setting up and running the fest.

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[mathieubellamont]

sometimes i wonder what possessed the daedric princes to curse jyggalag into sheogorath. of all things. i mean YEAH now he himself is suffering because of being mad but like..... you made an equally powerful prince except this time he's OFF THE RAILS. you had a guy who was predictable at least to a degree and now you have sheo. how does that fix anything for you. the only reason theyre not equally if not MORE fucked is sheo cant be bothered to take them down. maybe im missing something but ???

Ok so bc I love Sheo I'm not gonna just say I'm Sorry I Know No Lore and I'm gonna come at this with just my uneducated Far From Lore Personal Opinion. For fun. I mean. Naturally. in the spirit of Sheogorath because I'm sure that's what he'd want right? Just Go Ham.

Tbh...... The answer very well could just be that the devs needed a way to put jyg in the game while making sense irt the whole Why Wasn't He There From The Beginning thing and making him a threat in game, and this is just what they came up with........ But also I feel like what you said might be it? Or it's in what you said. What they did to him wasnt to reduce his power but to change where he focused it? Like instead of focusing on the outwards order of things, where the other Princes domains are and therefore are at risk, he's now focused entirely on the inner order of things? He's still seeking order in his own way imo, except instead of that order being the order of the outer world it's the order of the inner ones. And I think mortals have a much richer inner world than the Daedra right? Not entirely, but you know. The whole..... Dremora and other daedra existing under the Natural Order of their princes, existing to Serve Purposes, so now the only order jyg can get at Really is mortals, who are very subjective and therefore in the subjective realms of the mind where Sheogorath lurks, and then the specific daedra that follow him too? Hard to rearrange the mental orders of beings who arent really living in their minds and their selves and their other subjective existences.

Basically in my Really Uneducated opinion I feel like the other princes couldn't dampen his power nor change his sphere, so what they did was change the obsession with external order into obsession with internal order which. I realise......... Ok. Hold on. What I'm trying to say irt order might not make sense but. There is no such thing in Nature as order except what the individual seeks to change in the world, right? Order is just making others come along with what you want in the world. Order is subjective, what jyg was chasing and what Sheo is skipping after aren't actually.... Different spheres...... And additionally, on top of order being subjective anyway, Sheogorath's order is now entirely a reflection of himself of himself of himself? (If he is or is in the internal world and he theoretically seeks to change the internal world, well, then he changes himself then he changes the internal world then he changes himself etc. Hes Constantly changing because he's in the realm that he's changing).... Ie. order can look super fucked up if you've only got the internal, super subjective worlds as your realm, and therefore it can look muddled af. Basically. As someone with STPD there's order to the madness Always, it's just highly subjective, and there's always madness to the order whenever a consciousness tries to enact Order upon the world so. Hopefully now that bit makes sense. The point.

The point..... This might've made fuck all sense but. As I was saying I think that's what they did to him, just changed where he focused on in regards to his quest to make everything under his order, and sure he still can fuck with the princes if they enter too far into his realm of observation, but generally they don't. And either way, they did what they could..... Now largely he's just as bad but he's not focused on them at all? That's why they did it because there wasn't much else they could do. I mean if they could've made him powerless or take his power away, they would've. If they could change his sphere, wouldn't they've made him "Prince of pacifism"? "Prince of the subdued"? Something like that. As you were rightly asking, why would they purposely enact this change to Unpredictable But Still Him to him? They didn't, so my guess........ Yeah. They just changed his focus because that's all they could do to touch him

How did they do it? bruh I've no clue but...... I think it's amazing to think, if I am somewhat right, that with all the princes..... all they could do to this entity was refocus his attention so they were out of view........

[slurrmp]

          all you need to know about spyro’s original characters:                                           oc: oliver smith aka the scientist                                            fandom: doctor who                                            status: active.

THE BASICS

(current third regeneration)

Name: oliver smith (aka the scientist) Nicknames: olive (ana only), ollie, beta alpha (was going to be her academy name) Gender: female (atm) Pronouns: she/her [they/them] Sexual Orientation: pansexual Age (actual age): (earth age 36) actually almost 2500 years old Place of Birth: the citadel, gallifrey Citizenship: n/a

                                                  APPEARANCE

Age they appear: 30 Hair colour: black Hair style: this regeneration’s hair seems to always curl. Eye colour: dark brown Birthmarks/scars/marks: almost all over his body, only small but they always seem to follow him with each regeneration. Piercings: n/a Tattoos: a flock of birds across her shoulder blades. which always follow her through regenerations, this was given to them in their first face.

Build (curvy, toned, etc): slim and muscular, built like a model but with the added strength of being a gallifrayen builds are really deciving.

Weight: around 57kilos Height: 5′5″ Clothing style: dark clothes. leather pants and sometimes leather jeans, nothing as extravagant as her brother/sister, more so down to earth styles. Overall appearance: messy. but in the neat kind of way, her black clothes usually hides her figure and therefore hides what she looks overall.

Trinkets/jewelry: nothing Equipment/accessories (things they are never without; ex: a backpack or a notepad) oliver carries a sonic screwdriver herself. while not being a time lord, ollie has definitely learnt a lot from her brother.

                                          INNER WORKINGS

General mood: the third regeneration seems to be less broody and mean like her previous selves. three has a general sophistication about herself, but will absolutely string you along if it meant she would get to have a little fun. three can sometimes revert back into her broody and harsh self but she doesn’t like being like that anymore. Mental state (any mental illnesses?): well, three has seen a lot and has gone through a lot at this point in her life. but currently three is traveling the universe with her daughter in her own stolen tardis. Alignment (neutral good, chaotic evil, etc): chaotic neutral. Morals: family. Temperament: the scientist.

Quirks: three seems to crack her knuckles a lot. lip biting. Pet peeves: there’s just too many to put down.

Strengths: selflessness. loyalty.  Weaknesses: her daughter. ana. those muffins from the baker in cardiff.

Fears: she hates snails. Intelligence: even though oliver didn’t go to the academy and instead stole her very own TARDIS, she did come from a rather wealthy family, who could afford the best education.

Priorities: her daughter. Desires: to make sure that the universe doesn’t implode due to her brothers actions. Likes: it changes daily.

Vices: a short temper.

                                           RELATIONSHIPS

Friends: well, she doesn’t have a lot of friends. jack seems to like this version of her though.

Family: mother and father are dead. brother: kosechi.

Significant other: this is complicated.

Kids: daughter: grace, leah.

Enemies: just too many to count. the doctor. to a degree.

                         EMPLOYMENT AND EDUCATION

Jobs: did work for torchwood for a short while. Profession: time traveler.

Income (if any): psychic paper comes in handy.

Furthest education: gallifrey’s version of high school. Degree (if any): none.

                                   EXTRA INFORMATION

Criminal record: listen it’s too long to count, but also non existent to those that aren’t familiar with outer space.

Social media accounts (if any): none.

Reputation: oliver is known throughout the galaxy as the scientist, while not going to the academy, she is very good at what she does, experiments and testing. while also being known as the master’s sibling.

Skills: pretty much a talented fighter. excellent at maths and science.

Talents: makes a mean apple pie.

Hobbies: traveling the universe.

Special abilities (if any): well, she’s a gallifryean that stole regenerations when she stole a tardis. the stolen regenerations allow her to have extended lives and also to have faster healing abilities.

Transportation: a prototype of the tardis. one of the earliest models.

Living conditions: three’s version of a console room is exactly how an apartment in the city would be. this is mainly because she wants grace to feel like she has a home. without the windows, the console of the tardis resides in what would absolutely be the kitchen.

Pets: a robotic cat called FeeNine.

                                               AESTHETIC

Colors associated with: red and a pastel red. Their personal aesthetic: space. the stars and the moon. early mornings and cold evenings. Song that suits them: none yet

╳ BIO:

they were the older sibling - ten years older than kosechi. oliver didn’t want to conform to the high society of the time lords, didn’t want to stare into the time vortex and basically be brained washed to do what the council had decided for all the children on gallifrey. so when the younger brother was born - their parents turned their whole attention onto the new baby, which left oliver to do what they wanted, which was to be a scientist.

while their family was so focused on looking after kosechi and molding him to be what they wanted, oliver was a little bit of a rebel after he finally realised it was hard to do anything without having been to the academy. everyone thought it was theta that had stolen a tardis, but well oliver had been a couple of steps ahead of him. breaking into the academy - stealing a bunch of regenerations that would help them along their new life, they stole a prototype tardis and left gallifrey behind.

though it seemed like everything had come to oliver a bit too quickly. their parents hadn’t even noticed that they were missing until the academy figured out that one of their prototype tardis’ was missing. but by then oliver had ran so far away that they found themselves on earth in the early 80s and settled down, blending in as best they could.

twenty years seemed like a pit stop to them. things were quiet and they only ever kept tabs on their brother ( and of course the brothers best friend ) every once in a while. the doctor seemed to enjoy earth just as much as oliver with the amount of times he had shown up.

in the end, during one night in 2008, a young brunette stumbled almost into his tardis, bursting through the front door of the hidden tardis (as it took its place on an empty block next to apartments). she was bleeding and delusional, running from a pack of weevils, ana had misplaced her phone and had been unable to call for backup. so oliver, being the slightly placated person they were helped.

and this was the start of something unusual between the pair of them. learning that she had just lost her son, something that had left her rattled and ashamed - she needed a getaway, she didn’t want the doctor or jack to be prying into her life at the moment. maybe that’s why oliver agreed to take her on as a companion.

maybe that’s why the pair of them got so close. she wasn’t judgemental - she knew their brother, knew their family and yet - ana still decided to place her life in their hands. in the end, oliver helped the torchwood gang with miracle day and ended up getting ana pregnant in the summer of 2010.