#alltoosure

[fandomele]

Gifset here

responding to @alltoosure​

So, your criteria was that to be included in this gifset, the argument couldn’t have been resolved and there was no potential justification for someone to be upset at Emma, such as grief?

And, yet, the very first gif is of a fight where Henry is rightfully upset at Emma for using Violets heart to make her break up with him. And comes from an episode where Emma and Henry literally make-up in that same episode and Henry is the one to take the no magic cuff off of Emma, telling her he trusts her?

How does that fit the criteria?

Even in the second gif, Henry is being a dick, but I would say the justification that people he knows keep dying or being cursed by magic and he would like his parents to get along, is as good a justification as Hook’s big brother worship.

Also David and Snow are two separate people and David has freedom of thought. If he agrees to do something or not do something with Snow, that is still on him. He is not under her thrall.

I agree, you didn’t do it on purpose, but our biases can be visable even when we try to not show them.

But look, it’s your gifset. You could make it ‘times Emma was hurt by people who were not David or Hook’ and include examples I don’t at all agree with and there isn’t reallly much I could do about it. So you do you.

Yes, it's my gifset, but it's okay if you want to comment and I'll try to explain my train of thoughts, and you can agree or disagree because it was, after all, my subjective view of it that led to it. Which can differ from yours, and that's okay. Of course I'd prefer if you believed me when I say that I didn't consciously decided to conveniently forget stuff lol but hey, I also can't make you believe that, so it's your call. I’d like to still try to explain my view of this, you don’t have to reply, or you can and disagree (though I think we’ll eventually we’ll agree to disagree), it’s fine. But I don’t know if you’ll read all this because I wrote a LOT and I’m sorry lol basically in the middle I ended up explaining the reasoning between each group of gifs. 

My criteria was: "show patterns of Emma getting unfairly treated by people and Emma not ever standing up for herself or even thanking them for it later on. Plus Ingrid (so I guess entirely messed up relationships). Plus, not every moment is going to fit because it's a gifset and I didn't want to put even more gifs."  Or it could also be said “she has an ongoing unaddressed problem with these people, here it is/here they are if it’s more than one” (I already explained point by point why I excluded some, but to be more clear I didn't exclude Regina's grief because I *always* exclude grief, but because 1) I already put Henry being mad at Emma over not trusting Regina soon after and 2) Regina had already more than ten examples in the gifset, it was beating a dead horse. Though I do feel that their reasons can count sometimes. Regina exploding with grief is similar to Killian wanting to protect his brother's honor to me, for example, but Killian apologized, Regina didn't even recognize Emma was literally returning the 'you are benched' favor that Regina and the others did to her one day ago. I'll explain later why Henry scolding Emma because he wanted his family to stick together is in the gifset but I can anticipate that it's also to show the unfair contrast in how they treated Dark Emma)

It *is* a messy gifset, because most things made perfect sense in my head and are hard to explain on paper, and maybe I should title it: Emma vs Henry, Gold, Regina, Snow, Neal, Ingrid, Liam, Walsh, and occasionally David when he gets dragged in. Also because due to the limit of ten gifs = less than 3 mb each, it’s complicate to fit stuff.  But at the same time I feel like it's still... visible that David and Killian can't compare to those examples, due to number of mistakes, amount of times they apologized/were fought over them, and how Emma drags them for what they do at times (plural, I remember Emma being pretty sharp with both father and pirate around the end of s3). I could take away the 'not trusting your gut' block (which as I’ll explain in Snow’s case represents another issue too) and keep everything else the same and suddenly Killian and David wouldn't fit anymore, but Snow, Neal and Regina would still be there. Look at the gifset without that one stripe, and tell me in which blocks David and Killian would fit: the one where they insult her often? the one where they keep getting scared of her magic (which doesn’t even show the even more irritating way the writers had Snow not be as concerned for Emma later)? The one where they accuse her of ruining their lives after being the ones who ruined hers? the one where they belittle her pain about having been betrayed and abandoned or tell her she has everything and other similar concepts? The one where they try to control her with the dagger and enjoy it? The one where they tell her she's a villain/she's bad for not trusting other people or tell her she got pulled out of her problems instead of having to fight for it? The one where they consistently, often, make her feel not good enough?   Okay, David is still there for the insensitive bit of calling the baby Neal (though that's also on the writers, not just Snowing, because they kept glorifying him even in the au world where he didn’t fit) and for the team 'we don't trust the darkness' BUT even if I blame the baby name on the writers, there is a whole stripe of Snow really dropping the ball with her magic or being insensitive, and I could easily replace the not trusting gut stripe with 'occasions in which Emma needed support and we were shown Snow helping Regina' INCLUDING the same episode where Emma nearly ripped her magic off her. So Snow fits way better, could have a whole different stripe just for her, but it feels so ooc to have Snow so calm in those moments that I feel like I should just gif the writers for being asses. 

I’ll put under read more the explanation for each gif because it’s super long - I don’t know if you’ll read it, I can’t blame you if you don’t, but at least it’s here. I’ll bold some sentences to help. 

When it comes to how I made the gifset, the first gif isn't just Henry being rightfully upset about Emma taking Violet's heart, to me it's an example of Henry, the Henry who was Regina's fan for years, rejecting Emma and judging her for everything she did (which doesn’t exactly compare to what villains in ouat usually do) while comparing her to Gold and Regina who 'showed they have changed', even though Gold very recently showed he hasn't and is only helping because in trouble with Dark Hook (and was in the underworld because Emma threatened to tell Belle he had been lying to her about not being the Dark One anymore, which he was because he took the darkness away from a dying Killian) and a Regina who is very much still battling with horrible instincts but has everybody's constant presence and vocal support, and right next to that gif you find Henry furious at Emma over not trusting that Regina will choose to do good after Robin's horrible death and asking Regina to sit back, the same exact thing Regina did THE DAY BEFORE to Emma because she was 'too emotional' about Killian's death. It's the same Henry who when Regina shuts him out because Robin maybe will go back to Marian decides to wait outside her door (after sending her baskets if I'm not wrong), who keeps telling Regina she's not a villain, who kept trying to keep his family together, but he has always, always, been shorter with Emma. Henry, who later decided to trust Emma but only after closing off to her, telling her she couldn't go with them, and all the things in the speech of the first gif, is the same person who was so offended at the thought that Emma would doubt Regina. Henry has treated better people who *weren't* recently turned into Dark Ones and nearly lost their true love/lost it than he treated her, and it counts to me. Ongoing issue between Henry and Emma: he will always be harder on Emma than on anyone else, and unfairly too at times, because he can afford not trusting her and putting half of the effort he puts on Regina when she has a bad time, but Emma is bad for doubting Regina herself. So that, to me, already becomes a pattern, because even if I blame Neal for it, he did quickly turn on Emma in s2, he did react to 'Dark One Emma' with less hope/belief than he did around Regina's villain side, because hey, like I said, when Regina, in complete control of herself, thinks she might lose Robin to Marian, locks herself in the house, doesn't speak to him, doesn't let him in, Henry is sad and tries to get to her in every way. When Emma, filled with Dark One's magic (something she started using to save Robin right when she should have been avoiding it), who did turn fully only days before when Killian was literally dying, closes herself off because she's trying to figure out a plan to fix this and nobody can know Killian is a Dark One or Killian might find out, reacts like *that* and only later offers Emma some trust again. But Emma is a bad person for not trusting Regina immediately? Unfair.  And I do like Henry, and I’m all here for Swan Believer, but that is an ongoing problem that should have been addressed/solved. 

Plus it wasn't just Henry, it was everybody in that room in that first gif. Though in Henry’s case it does connect to a bigger issue that is specific of the two of them.

And under that, examples of people not having changed all that much despite what Henry claimed and not exactly deserving of Emma’s trust, ongoing issues such as Gold constantly putting her life and Killian’s life in danger and getting forgiven and welcomed back in the family constantly, so Emma has to be okay with it. Ongoing issue with Regina: Regina gets to tell her the most awful things and is still justified, a good guy, and Emma reacting would lead to a serious fight and who knows what else.  - Gold recently trying to kill her, same day he took Killian's heart, when he was still considered an ally (I could have also put gifs later of the things I mentioned earlier but by then Emma saw him as an enemy), Regina's speech to an Emma who had just been through all that pain about how she wanted to kill Killian but resisted it (and how she doesn't like doing good but does, and how it doesn't change that she doesn't get a full happy ending - even though nobody there does with the lives they led - and how Emma was *pulled* out of darkness) 

And right under those two you get examples of Snow being scared of Emma's powers which likely did remind Emma the whole very badly phrased sentence of 'she's not what I wanted' and brought up also the 'you don't trust me' as Dark One. I don't have to explain why it's a pattern for Regina to act that way. Or how you get six different scenes with focus on Snow in which she let Emma down that way. (to bring back the two men missing, David and Killian weren't reacting in insensitive ways to her magic, 'you are not what I wanted' was unnecessary and not from David, David IS part of the scene where nobody wanted to trust Dark One Emma, and I'll explain the not trusting Emma's gut a scene later because it represents something else too. Though it does make me feel a bit better that David was shown to be losing it, in his office, about being unable to help Dark One Emma, I'll give you that in terms of biased). Ongoing issue with Snow: choosing the most insensitive way to deal with their problems and showing lack of trust in Emma/her powers (and being possibly the most calm person later when Emma was giving up her magic) 

In the ones under that, Regina also telling Emma she's acting like Cora, she lost the moral high ground, she's a villain, and the whole 'you were pulled out of darkness' as if she wasn't treated that way. Right under that, several examples of Regina insulting Emma. Clearly not something I can say Snow, or David or Killian do. Ongoing issues with Regina: she villanizes Emma at every turn, she had her ‘reasons why you suck’ speech ready when Emma was the Dark One yet still claims Emma was pulled out of the darkness (by them?) and can’t understand what Regina goes through. 

Right under that. Emma having been through a very bad life after coming to this world and Regina's you ruined my life, right next to Lily taking away another big chance Emma had to be in a good family for a while (and lying and all that) and then going 'you ruined my life'.  Ongoing issue with Regina (and Lily): even though I made your life a living hell, you don’t understand my pain and you ruined mine. 

Under that, Regina 'you have everything' so I chose to put Ingrid, another person who let her down, even though in this case Emma did get to be mad, because Emma went from bad family to bad family and then in the streets, and THEN, under that, because I mentioned the situation with Ingrid, I decided to put how Walsh, her 'fiance', was just there to control her, raped her by deception by that, tried to kill her, and wasn't even human, and Liam had one chance to have a conversation with Emma and it was like *that*. Which doesn't make it a perfect gifset, but I just kept basically going with the last ring of the chain and connecting to the last things. But it also show three entire relationships that were basically fully based on bad things from beginning to end with a bit of a redeeming moment for Liam and Ingrid. Admittedly they were more there as 'other random people who hurt her feelings a lot and Emma didn't get to vent all that much, plus it wasn't an exception to an otherwise nice relationship, it was a mess from beginning to end'. Something I cannot say about her parents or husband. Though again, I do like Ingrid and Liam. Especially Ingrid, my heart broke for her. Sort of ongoing issue with Ingrid and Walsh: the entire relationship was them trying to get Emma where they wanted her to be, lying and betraying her.  Ongoing-ish Issue with Liam: in the short span they knew each other he judged her and lied. Less fitting than the others. 

The people not trusting Emma's gut block connects to the Neal block and yes, Snow and DAVID naming their baby Neal, but also, in Snow's case too, IS a pattern of ignoring what Emma says about Neal while David is more cautious and asks things - I'll explain as much as I can without having rewatched s2 and s3 in years: with Neal and Regina it's obvious why it represents a bigger problem, with David it wouldn't because otherwise David tries to not assume what Emma wants when talking to her, he's... quieter. With Snow? It also represents Emma trying to tell her several times she's unhappy about Neal (the phonecall from Manhattan, the attempt to talk about how she kissed Killian, but also yes, Tamara) and Snow still acting as if she knows that in reality Emma just wants to be with him. As much as I do love Snow, so I'm not sure of how the whole biased thing comes into play here, because I do believe that me now loving David more depends on the fact that I haven't seen the same behaviors from him, not constantly, and it does count for me that he needed convincing from Snow several times even if he relented at the end, since I started the show adoring both of them and then WITH TIME my appreciation for Snow diminished when it comes to her dealing with Emma. Ongoing issue with Snow showed here: dismissing Emma’s words several times so the conversation could go back to what Snow believed to be true.  Ongoing issue with Regina and Neal there, similarly: not believing in Emma’s skills/her words 

... also because the writers wanted Regina to have a good ally and picked Snow, and honestly I find ooc that many times Snow wasn't just as involved and agitated as David when Emma wasn't okay. EVEN IF Snow's reactions to Emma's magic were understandable in context, though she could have sure as hell handled them better - it was ridiculous the way she held baby Neal back and shook her head looking down as if afraid Emma was going to kill them both for it, why didn't she just say 'Emma you just warmed up the baby bottle too much, can you wait a minute? You know how anxious I get about the baby' - in the end they were all coming from her even if she kept dragging David into it by making it 'our reaction' instead of 'my reaction', yet at the very end I remember in that episode everybody looking for Emma but Snow being so CHILL about it, walking and talking about Regina's love life? Able to focus on that when Emma was possibly destroying a part of her as they spoke? So the few gifs of Snow represent both that, and the bit I said about lack of trust that Henry is only mad about when it comes to Regina. The writers piled up behaviors that I disliked on Snow, which is why she's in the gifset while they feel far less of a pattern with David. Snow is the one who said the most insensitive sentence in Neverland, Snow was the parent convinced Neal was Emma's love and Emma was jealous, Snow was the one who kept having conversations with Regina or about Regina and suggesting parties and all that while Emma was alone/in pain/looking for ways to take her magic out. Even in the Underworld we got some Snow/Regina friendship. Snow is the one who was so sure they had to find a way to take out any possibility that Emma would turn evil (bullshit plot that makes no sense) because of the unicorn. Snow loved Emma so much, it's visible, it's not a matter of not caring, but she was the leading force of many mistakes and due to plot reasons showed far less worry and realistic reactions so she ended up here too.

And last block, a little mix of Regina's irony 'the more you try to help the worse you make my life' = helping her in Camelot by controlling her with the dagger. You don't think of consequences = begging Emma to save Robin. And right with that 'you never had my back' and enjoying her second use of the dagger to command Emma to shut up. Ongoing issues with Regina: lack of respect, enjoying  physically controlling Emma, blaming Emma for everything while it’s acceptable if she does the same, exaggerating Emma’s flaws so make herself a victim and insulting Emma at every viable turn. 

If I had added ALL the scenes I decided not to put, not just Killian at the date (because again, the underworld doesn't fit at all, not when he apologized and it was the one time he went NOPE) or... David not being sure about Henry 'not being okay' after Neverland, but all the other scenes from Regina and Neal and Gold and Snow, I'm sure that the reaction would have been the exact same of the original gifset, simply because 'ah look, the one time Killian and David are there it's because they are hammering the concept that Emma should try to enjoy some of her free time and not always be alert, meanwhile the others gratuitously insult her or hurt her or abandon her when in literal danger of losing herself'. Even if they were all here and you compared them to the gut feeling block only you get 'Neal and Regina never trusted her, Killian and David want her to take a break on being the Savior for a day and Mary Margaret is telling her she's too emotional for her skill to work'.

I didn't put Killian and David because there was no pattern of continuous lack of belief/support, let alone an Emma who was always so submissive about it, and I didn't put August who *had* a pattern because he did his best to fix it and Emma got to be mad at him too, then let it go but he's not there making it worse. I guess I could erase Ingrid to make it look better, but that does fit another general theme that is 'Emma's life suck'? Though considering that Ingrid's whole relationship with Emma *was* about lying and manipulating, just like Walsh even if with better intentions, it kinda fits better than people making a couple of mistakes while normally loving and supporting her. So thinking about it, it still fits. Because they are not exceptions to a rule, they are all part of a bigger picture of either insults, lack of belief, lack of sensitivity, unfairness, or more than one at a time, and that allowed to me make many gifs because there were many scenes, or  to make a gif to represent the bigger issue (Again, Ingrid is the example, or Walsh).

So in conclusion, the pattern has to be: 'people systematically doing these things to Emma and Emma either never bringing those things up or even thanking them for their friendship and support OR people Emma got to be mad at but whose entire relationship/interactions were on false premises anyway and they did end up hurting her no matter what (and let's be honest, there wasn't even that much venting about it after)'. David and Killian don't fit, they fit the pattern of messing up a couple of times, the couple of times I actually mentioned in the other reply so you know it's not a constant, and sometimes even apologizing for it, but having otherwise a regular relationship with Emma where yeah, sometimes they argue, which is healthy, sometimes one of the three lets it go, sometimes apologies are required, but you can also make many gifs of the two men being like 'I believe in you!' 'you can do this!' which helps a lot. You can’t say “damn it, David/Killian, you always end up doubting Emma/you always get scared easily/you always have less patience and understanding with her!” it’s not a big Issue, especially not one that never gets talk about. 

So yeah I'm biased, but I still feel that I'm biased BECAUSE I can write all of this, not that I'm writing all of it because I'm biased.

[daesgatling]

Hades, Persephone and three of their children; Erebus (Mr. Dark), Ichor (Dracula) and Melinoë

[alltoosure]

I love SVU. I’ve never seen a show that is less worried about making it’s main character a Mary Sue.

Like, I am not even complaining. I love Olivia Benson and I love how great she is at everything and how completely moral she is. It’s just goals.

[misscamthenorwegian]

Fanfic Ask: 1, 21 & 30?

1. things that inspire youStuff from the show I want the characters to deal with emotionally, though that was more the case in the past when OUAT’s writing worked for me more than it has lately. These days it’s often things like an imagined scene, piece of dialogue, AU scenario, what-ifs and I’ll write a fic around that. Prompts also often inspire me.21. least favorite character to writeZelena. Can’t get my head around her. 30. hardest part of writingPatience. Patience in terms of also writing the set-up stuff that is less interesting personally in order to get to the stuff I am most interested in writing and patience in terms of sticking with it even when the writing is going slowly.

[th1syearsgirl]

Top 5 ‘Fight Me’ Characters

These Top Five characters are more than just a favourite. If someone comes for them, your first thought is: Fight Me

Pick your Tops (no particular order necessary), then tag five people to keep it going!

(Caveat: I have way too many. I also have characters whom I love love love but can see where people would have issues with them so I’ll pass on starting a fight; then I have characters over whom I’ll happily eviscerate anyone coming for them regardless. I guess for the purposes of this thing I’m sticking to the latter?)

1. Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

2. Lily Evans (Harry Potter)

3. Snow White (Once Upon a Time)

4. Belle (Once Upon a Time)

5. Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Honorary mentions go to Emma Swan (OUaT) and Daenerys Targaryen (Game of Thrones), though, they both fall right @ the border bw here and “characters I can see why others would have a problem with” (solely thanks to the massacre OuaT made of Emma’s character over Hook and CS, in her case, smh).

@alltoosure @oyevans @shewhohangsoutincemeteries @legere-librum @whatifdestiel Your turn 😂😁

[lilacmoon83]

I was tagged by @just-an-outlaw. Post 10 songs I’m vibing, then tag 10 people so here goes!

1. Can’t Stop - One Republic

2.Believer - Imagine Dragons

3. Powerful Magic - Once Upon a Time: The Musical Episode; Josh Dallas and Ginnifer Goodwin

4. I Can See for Miles - The Who

5. Sugar, We’re Goin’ Down - Fall Out Boy

6. Poison & Wine - The Civil Wars

7. Only You - Yaz

8. Hey Jude - The Beatles

9. Perfect - Ed Sheeran 

10. Shut Up and Dance - Walk the Moon

@mystical-flute @alltoosure @superdupermary @ashuisnotonfire @snowsregina @snowingfairyland @snowscharming @benisa1608 @loboselinaistrash @just-an-outlaw

[amthedreamer]

Happy Birthday.

Thank you!

[daesgatling]

World Without Color/Dracula Universe: Mina Murray- Harker, Abraham Van Helsing, Jonathan Harker, Lucy Westerna, Alexander Murray, Elizabeth Stoker-Murray

[alltoosure]

I hate the bitchiness of ANTM. I am watching it now (cycle 23) and I love Courtney, but everyone is so mean to her and it’s giving me flashbacks to high school.

Whatever, she’s the best model anyway.

[sassyzinger]

Your reason for sorting Hook into Hufflepuff were really on point and interesting. It's got me wondering, in what houses would you sort the other main characters?

Here is the original discussion.

My reasons for sorting Hook are this:

It kind of sucks, since I’m a Hufflepuff myself but I think Hook is the Peter Pettigrew of Hufflepuff. He has many traits characteristic of the house but he chooses to use them in the wrong way. He’s a bad apple Hufflepuff.

Patience. He waited centuries in Neverland to get his revenge on Rumple. He waited for 28 years for the curse to break with Cora- even if he didn’t feel it passing.

Just. Hook believes in ‘good form’. In a lot of ways, he is almost religious in his belief in it. But ‘good form’ essentially means to Hook, do whatever it takes to get what you want. “A man unwilling to fight for what he wants, gets what he deserves.” In Hook’s mind, this is completely right and fair. Hook believes his own, fucked up, twisted sense of justice.

Hard-working. Hufflepuffs are hard workers, unafraid of toil. Before Liam died, Hook was a sailor which involved long hours and very hard labor. Afterward, he became a pirate- again, this is Hook’s twisted idea of ‘justice’ for Liam’s death. But even after this, Hook words for years to get his revenge on Rumple, traveling to multiple realms to find a way to kill him. You could even argue that Hook worked hard to ‘woo’ Emma- he just wouldn’t give up. Once Hook decides on a course of action, it takes an act of god to change his mind.

Loyal. This is the hardest one. Hook flip flops sides so often that it’s hard to argue he is in any way loyal. But I would argue that Hook is fiercely loyal to causes, not people. Killing Rumple, getting to Storybrooke, ‘wooing’ Emma- he is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, even if it means betraying people. The cause if all that matters, not the people you have to run over to get it done. You could argue this is a Slytherin trait but it could also work here.

It just seems to fit a lot better in my mind than ‘cunning’ or ‘sly’ ever would for Hook because Henry could run a better con than he ever could.

Now, considering how wildly ooc every single character has been acting for awhile now, this is kinda difficult. But I’ll do my best.

Let’s do the Charmings/Regina first.  

Emma Swan and David Noland- Gryffindor

(This is a no brainer.) Like father like daughter. They are incredibly brave and bold, with a strong tendency to go on the offensive right off. Very brash as well, with a punch in the face first, ask questions later mentality very in line with Gryffindor’s characteristic recklessness.

Snow White- Hufflepuff

Unless she is high on forgetting potion, Snow lacks David’s bold approach and recklessness. She tries so hard to be fair-minded- almost to a fault- and is incredibly transparent and honest. She is fiercely loyal to her friends and loved ones. The only sure way to get Snow to go on the offensive is to put her loved ones in danger- otherwise she is content to patiently wait for a better, non-violent solution. She tried to simply stay out of Regina’s way/reconcile with her until David was put in danger. Only then did she really put all her cards on the table.

Henry Mills-  Gryffindor

While this might seem like a shoe-in, Henry was a bit more difficult.  Ravenclaw was another possible option. Henry is an incredibly brave boy but he is also very, very smart. He’s bright, quick-witted, and very unconventional in his thinking. He is also incredibly wise beyond his years. In the end though, I have absolutely no doubt that, if given the choice, Henry would ask to be put in Gryffindor. He prizes bravery, chivalry, and heroics above all and consequently, Henry is a Gryffindor.

Regina Mills- Ravenclaw

 Regina was honestly the hardest person to sort, I swear, mostly because of the serious whip-lash I’ve gotten from her characterization. It’s hard to pin down firm character traits for Regina when they’re constantly shifting. Regina is very intelligent and sharp witted- though she uses her wit to mock and put others down. (I’m not really happy with this sorting but I couldn’t put her anywhere else. She is not ambitious for power, she is not hard-working or patient at all, she is not brave or bold or reckless.)

Now the Stiltskins

Rumpelstiltskin-Slytherin

Even considering centuries of change and character development, Rumple was shockingly easy to sort thanks to the Straggletag. She pointed out in a post I can’t find but would be happy to provide a link to if anyone finds it, that even as downtrodden, weak spinner!Rumple he is willing to burn down a castle to save his son. And everything fell into place.

Spinner!Rumple is ambitious, wanting to go to war and step out of his father’s shadow. He is cunning, coming up with the solution to mutilate himself to get out of going to battle. He is willing to do whatever it takes to save his loved ones and himself, from burning down the castle as spinner!Rumple to leaving Storybrooke with Belle and Henry in 4A.

Belle- Ravenclaw

Belle is certainly a Ravenclaw, bright and quick-witted. She values books and learning. While Belle is very brave, she is also unconventional in her bravery. Less punch it in the face and more let’s examine this and come up with a smart, different solution going on with Belle. She relies on her quick thinking and that’s why she’s in Ravenclaw and not Gryffindor.

Neal/Baelfire- Gryffindor

 He is very brave from when he was willing to fight the ogres as a 13 year old. Nealfire is less bold though and more understated in his bravery. It tends to manifest itself in his propensity to self-sacrifice, from the Darlings, to Emma and Henry, to Rumple. 

But Nealfire has a reckless streak of his own. He is willing go to a new, perhaps dangerous world for his father on the word of someone he just met, to jump out a window to ride a shadow to Neverland. (Seriously, what’s with that Neal? You’re in your father’s castle. Are you going to look for some magic for an advantage?  Maybe grab a weapon? Nope, it’s just like gotta fly, gonna save my loved one, caw caw motherfuckers!!)

[snowdropsandtigers]

tagged by alltoosure

Rules: Find out what characters share the same personality type as you here. and list the characters that you find relevant below. Then tag five friends and let them know you tagged them! If you don’t know your personality type, take the test http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

My usual score is INTP:

Mai and Teo from Avatar: The Last Airbender

Bruce Banner/The Hulk from The Avengers

April Ludgate from Parks and Recreation

Belle from Beauty and the Beast

Mr. Feeny from Boy Meets World

Abed Nadir from Community

Ra’s al-Ghul from Batman Begins

 The Joker from The Dark Knight

Shinichi Kudo from Detective Conan

Auron from Final Fantasy X

Chandler Bing from Friends

Hohenheim from Fullmetal Alchemist

Zoidberg from Futurama

Dipper Pines from Gravity Falls

Nick Carraway from The Great Gatsby

Grim from The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy

Lantis from Magic Knight Rayearth

Agent K from Men In Black

Twilight Sparkle from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic

Linus van Pelt from Peanuts

Ash’s Bulbasaur from Pokémon

Shinomori Aoshi from Rurouni Kenshin

Ami Mizuno/Sailor Mercury from Sailor Moon

Samantha Carter from Stargate SG-1

Meursault from The Stranger

Floki from Vikings

EVE from WALL•E

Columbus from Zombieland

Luna Lovegood used to be there but I see they moved her. I am OTT pouting over it. At least it still includes Twilight Sparkle!

I am O.O at the inclusion of The Joker and Ra's al-Ghul, but resigned to Zoidberg.

[ouatcritic]

It's really cool to see that you're pro Blue Fairy because she gets so much undeserved hate from the fandom. It's strange that a fandom that theoretically loves "grey" characters refuses to see Blue as anything other than shady because while being good she is not nice. I love Dwarf Star as much as the next person but I don't think her reasons for separating them were anything more then what we saw in the episode. What are some of your ideas/feelings about Blue?

Like you say, I just think she’s a lawful good sort of character that is more interested in the well-being of the many than of the individual whims. She wields a lot of power while not catering to fan favorites so that’s why, I think, people want to constantly throw her under the bus. Also, it’s difficult to woobify/glorify your fave as a hero without the presence of a villain. They’re literally just picking the easiest target for hatred (a character who doesn’t take shit and still has a lot of ambiguity) and branding them as the ‘bad guy’ to take attention away from their fave (’So okay my fave character raped and pillaged, but JUST LOOK AT THIS FUCKING FAIRY SHE’S OBVIOUSLY EVIL FOR NOT INDULGING EVERYONE’). It’s redirection at its worst. 

[mystical-flute]

Hey Mystical Flute, I was going to send this message yesterday but the tumblr blackout happened. I saw what happened on the confession post yesterday and just wanted to say that I hope you're feeling better. Some people in this fandom are just the worst and you shouldn't feel like you did anything wrong.

Thank you. I am, mostly. They're just such bullies I don't understand how they haven't been kicked off tumblr yet.

[daesgatling]

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