#also brindleface.... love her

[cat-alyzing]

could i see your brindleface design please? ❤️

- @salmonpaw

I know their design is a little out there a bit wild but! But! I will say it is bc she is now a GoosePine kit beside their brother Tigerclaw. Yes. They are siblings now. I’ll have to figure out how that plays into their kits lives, since now Ashfur and Brambleclaw would be cousins but I’ll figure that out later. The first version is how she looks right now with all their herbs, being dandelion leaves to calm down, borage leaves to promote growth and milk, and coltsfoot which wards of kittencough!

(ID- Brindleface is standing to the left with their head down, front paws together, and ears drooping. Her right green eyed is looking away and their expression is rather shy. They are a dull gray tabby with thick stripes down her legs, back, and face. White is on their belly, down her nose, paws, tail, mane, and on the back of her ears in a circle spot. Red tabby marking are on the left side of their face, back foot, front foot, down her back, and on their front paw. They have a short fluffy tail and are very bulky, muscles under their thick fur. She is expecting making their belly pink. Two dandelion leaves, four borage leaves, and three coltsfoot flowers are on their side. The background is splattering of a dull minty green color. End ID)

Personality wise she is very withdrawn. While Tigerclaw is outward with his emotions they keep them to herself. They don’t like to talk much either, preferring to be alone in silence. Out of the whole clique her closest friend would probably be Rosetail who looks after her a lot and makes sure she is alright, especially after they announced they were expecting with no sire in sight. Their quiet nature doesn’t make her docile though and she can be quite cold when it comes to those they feel don’t deserve their niceties. As a warrior she is a great patrol cat. Their physical frame and almost completely silent steps despite her size makes them a force to be reckoned with by others. Despite all of the compliments she receives they rarely believe any of them ever, only those from certain cats getting through to her.

Personality wise she is very withdrawn. While Tigerclaw is outward with his emotions they keep them to herself. They don’t like to talk much either, preferring to be alone in silence. Out of the whole clique her closest friend would probably be Rosetail who looks after her a lot and makes sure she is alright, especially after they announced they were expecting with no sire in sight. Their quiet nature doesn’t make her docile though and she can be quite cold when it comes to those they feel don’t deserve their niceties. As a warrior she is a great patrol cat. Their physical frame and almost completely silent steps despite her size makes them a force to be reckoned with by others. Despite all of the compliments she receives they rarely believe any of them ever, only those from certain cats getting through to her.

Arc wise their relations with Tigerclaw is one I’m both really loving and saddened by. Being the sibling of him doesn’t change her fate much. Though I want them to have a bit more screen time, maybe push back her death a bit. Their sire, or mate as they used to be was a kittypet she’d met after she went to see their father Pine. Luna, a speckled silver cat she loved a lot but couldn’t be with as they never wanted to join the cliques and Brindle couldn’t bare to leave. When they finally break up she’s expecting Luna’s kits, evoking their Queen’s rights to keep their parentage a secret. Sadly they wouldn’t get to be with their kits as long as she wished they could.

[cryptidclaw]

Frostpad!

Design Notes:

Same design as the last one I just redrew her and gave her a different pose!

She's a mostly white calico <333 i love her design sm

Character Bio:

Frostpad

(Frostfur)

Molly; she/her

Age as of 1st arc's beginning: 5 cycles, 9 moons; ~39 Hyrs

Age as of 1st arc's end: 7 cycles, 7 moons; ~46 Hyrs

Title meaning: -pad = a cat who is light on their feet; a cat who carefully thinks out their steps and actions; a cat who is sure of themselves, and is confident in their actions

Warrior -> Elder of Thunder Order

Mentor: Star Bluefrost

Mother: Robinwing

Father: Fuzzypelt

Sibling: Brindleface

Mate: Lionheart

Kits: Thornclaw; Brightheart

Adoptive-kits: Cinderspark; Brackenburrow

Grandkits: Yarrowbird (Whitewing); Cinderheart; Honeyfern; Poppyfrost

Other notable kin: Ferncloud (niece); Ashfall (nephew); Tulip (nephew); Elder (nephew)

Extra notes: Idk how she is majority white when the rest of her fam is very much not.... maybe she's adopted lol

Character Summary:

Frost is pretty much the same as in canon!

personality wise I think she is a calm yet serious cat, that doesn't stop her from having a sense of humor though! I think she likes to make joking jabs at her friends and family, out of love ofc. She is also one of the "prettiest" mollies in the Order and she knows it!! I think that she has a slight obsession with her beauty and she can come off as a bit full of herself at times... I think this could have effected her daughters a bit and made it harder for them (especially Bright) to move past their injuries. But I like the idea of Frost realizing this and starting to change her ways a bit and try to make her daughters know just how beautiful she thinks they are.

Frostpad is very good at fighting as well, and is surprisingly good at stalking prey and enemies despite her bright coat! She is also not afraid to be outspoken, though she always thinks through her decisions before she does anything rash. Frost was extremally angry on behalf of her daughters and certainty made her thoughts clear, it was strange for many cats to see since she usually has such a strong old on her emotions.

The only big plot change for Frost is that Bracken and Cinder are her and Lion's adopted kits! they were kits stolen from Wind Order by Shadow and were saved at the same time as Thorn and Bright, Frost and Lion immediately accepted them as their own and gave them a loving home. After Wind returned they learned that Cinder and Bracken's bio mom was dead and they had a donor sire so the two Orders agreed it was better for them to stay in their adoptive Order!

And yes, Frost stays behind when the Orders have to leave the old territory, I like the idea of the cats left behind joining the half of Blood Order that chose to stay behind as well though! So Frost still has an Order to call home :)

...

[image ID: a digital drawing of Frostpad an AU version of Frostfur from Warrior Cats. She is walking with her left side showing, she has a calm expression with a smile on her face. She is a slender, long furred, mostly white molly with blue-grey and light orange calico patches and teal-blue eyes. Notably she has a grey patch over her eye and patches along her lower back and covering her tail. She has a long hair tuft covering her left eye and her nose and inner ears are light pink./End ID]

[official-darkforest]

Sorry I would love for you to explain all of your rare pairs. I love deep warrior cats thoughts pls if you want to do so

ThornRat (Thornclaw x Ratscar) Dark Forest trainee pairing. They're also both old enough to remember the Old Forest . The whole dynamic I have in mind is Thornclaw being rather oblivious to his sexuality and also being a huge fucking hypocrite (he's one of the more conservative warriors of TC, ironically). Ultimately his relationship with Ratscar, if you can even call it one, is doomed from the start and Ratscar is stuck yearning for someone that's not worth pursuing for multiple reasons.

BrambleFern (Bramblepaw x Fernpaw) I specify -paw because I see them as a bit of a tragic pairing where it doesn't end up working out because Dustpelt swoops right in and inserts himself in Bramblepaw's place. Also, in the context of my rewrite, Brambleclaw is the one to run away to ShadowClan instead of Tawnypelt so whatever spark he and Fernpaw had going never gets to go anywhere. I imagine they're still friends but have some moments of 'what if' every now and then.

BrindleFlint (Brindleface x Flintfang) Honestly I just wanted to give Ashfur and Ferncloud a father that already existed in the series and also didn't fuck up the family tree any more than it already is. I think I got this idea from someone else but I can't exactly remember who - but it's a very interesting concept considering the events of the first arc and how Flintfang was still alive for the events that happened (according to Tigerstar's Fury and Blackfoot's Reckoning). I headcanon that Ferncloud is named after her aunt Fernshade, too. Additionally, in the anthro AU, their story is a lot sadder but that's another story...

LongWind (Longtail x Runningwind) Childhood friends to almost-lovers! They're around the same age and would've definitely trained together. As mentioned in my HalfOne family tree post, they had a budding interest but it was cut short by Runningwind's death. Sad :(

IvyBreeze (Ivypool x Breezepelt) This one is just funny. "You wanna kiss me so bad it makes you look stupid" kind of shit. Breezepelt would be fucking fuming over it because he doesn't want to be like his dad.

HalfDove (Half Moon x Dove's Wing) Another one that's mostly in the context of my rewrite! I'm imagining it's very one-sided since I also love HalfJay, but it's a very complicated thing where Jay's Wing is very focused on saving their colony and too scatterbrained to really put any serious commitment to Half Moon (something he tells her explicitly, but she pursues anyways). Dove's Wing is embarrassed of her crush and knows it was never meant to be, not only because she's a prophecy cat but also because Half Moon doesn't even like her that way.

IceApple (Icewing x Applefur) Another Dark Forest Trainee pairing! I have a lot of these because I got attached to them. Not my only Applefur ship but certainly one that's kinda fun to think about. I don't have much to say about these two sadly but I thought it was a cute idea that I could maybe build off of later.

MinnowMouse (Minnowtail x Mousewhisker) I don't actually think this one is that much of a rare pair, I've seen a lot of ppl talk about this but I was kinda running out of ideas since there's a lot of characters idgaf about sorry LOL anyways this one is based on a scene in Dark River and the fact they were both Dark Forest trainees in their adulthood.

[angstywildcats]

do you have a ferncloud design? just wanted to ask lolz (she’s one of my favs hsjsjdkfkfjd) :D

Nothing I've thought incredibly deeply about (though, I do adore her + the character exploration potential she has) but I did draw her here!

Not sure if I'd change anything honestly. I do love the shade of grey she has plus her face marking because it resembles Brindleface. Also not a lot of kitties have the opportunity to have spots like she does. and, you're in luck, I have a WIP where it includes fernpaw once more!

I have quite a soft spot for apprentice-stage domestic life it seems.

[mud-castle]

Yall I had a weird ass dream that Willowpelt tried to poison Firestar. He was weirdly calm about it, but he didn't want a repeat of Tigerstar so he, along with Dustpelt and Cloudtail took her around all the camps, declared her crimes, and her status as an exile.

Brindleface was important to a love story or something Willowpelt and another character had had. I don't remember the details. Just a quote like "I should've chosen Brindleface." As they dramatically broke up with her while she was held as prisoner right after the attempt.

Also Willowpelt was wearing a long flowing dress for some reason as she was pulled around the territory. And Brindleface wore a long, sparkling black dress with a white center when she fled the room. They both looked pretty bitchin not gonna lie.

Also Blackstar had been in a gentleman's club with his friends for eleven years, and was about to throw a barbaque to celebrate when the patrol strolled in.

[brackenfur]

incredibly random but i’ve always liked the idea of longtail + brindleface being littermates…..it’d make brindleface a lot younger tru but i like the dynamic of her being very mature and kind while longtail is extremely stubborn and hardheaded for much of his young adulthood 😭 + also her death would hit him incredibly hard, especially since she dies around the same time swiftpaw does, and longtail not only pledges to take care of ashpaw and fernpaw from then on but it also gives him that extra drive of hating tigerstar so much. i would’ve loved to see longtail and tigerstar fighting each other at least ONCE

[warriorcatsauclan]

She-cat Firestar AU

NEW WARRIOR CATS AU!! Yes, starting a new one despite not even finishing my other one. This will be a what if Firestar was a she-cat. I will be mainly writing down things that changed and will be skimming over the stuff that stays the same. I will get back to the AlderSky Au soon, but I wanted to share this one as well. So, here we go ~

~ Into the Wild

Most things, including the major plot points, stay the same. Mainly the things that change in these events are little things. Such as:

Firepaw is noted to be very pretty

While Sandpaw is still snarky, but is a bit nicer to Firepaw, as she is happy that there is another she-cat in the Apprentice's Den

Firepaw does not have a crush on Spottedleaf

Everything else that happens in Into the Wild happens the same as in canon. Yes, even Fire's warrior name, Fireheart.

~ Fire and Ice

Again, most major events stay the same, but there are more difference's this time.

The journey to find WindClan is the same, with the minor exception that Onewhisker clearly thinks that Fireheart is pretty.

During the fight at the Gorge, Graystripe manages to grab onto Whiteclaw before he falls and Fireheart and Leopardfur help drag him up. Leopardfur is grateful for this, but still demands that they get off RiverClan territory.

Fireheart still gets Cinderpaw and Graystripe still gets Brackenpaw. Fireheart still spots Princess.

Graystripe still falls into the frozen river and is saved by Silverstream, but he does not fall in love with her at first sight. This is because Graystripe is already in love with Fireheart at this point, even if he does not consciously realizes it. As a result, Graystripe is around more as a mentor to Brackenpaw.

During the time Bluestar gets greencough, it is not Cinderpaw that gets injured, but Brackenpaw. When Fireheart goes to get the catmint, she tells Graystripe to keep an eye on Cinderpaw as her apprentice had already suggested going to meet Tigerclaw in Bluestar's place. Thanks to this, Cinderpaw is kept in camp and is not injured. However, Brackenpaw, wanting to be helpful, goes to try and meet Tigerclaw by the Thunderpath. As a result, it is Brackenpaw who's leg is injured.

Cinderpaw is guilty because she kicked so much of a fuss about it that Brackenpaw felt like he had to go and Graystripe is guilty that he did not pay close enough attention to Brackenpaw. Fireheart is trying to comfort everyone.

The next big change happens when Fireheart brings her nephew to ThunderClan. While the Clan still has trouble accepting him, they do eventually allow him to stay. This time though, Fireheart moves into the nursery to raise him. Brindleface still suckles him, but Fireheart is the one raising him, teaching him Clan ways and mothering him. Graystripe steps in as a father-figure to the kit. Fireheart is also the one to name him.

This where another big change comes in - Fireheart does not name him Cloudkit. Instead, she names him Snowkit, since it started snowing the day she brought him to camp.

Fireheart still trains Cinderpaw in her spare time, but Graystripe also stepped into to help mentor her.

Most things stay the same, with the minor changes that Fireheart is in the nursery, so there are times where she either cannot go to a Gathering and Graystripe relays what happened or Cinderpaw taking Brackenpaw's place in getting the patrols when the former ShadowClan cats attack camp.

When Snowkit sneaks out of camp with Fernkit and Ashkit, Fireheart is the one that alerts everyone. She is furious, if a tiny bit proud that Snowkit caught a vole for the Elders, and scolds Snowkit for putting himself and his friends in danger.

When Onewhisker comes for help during the attack on WindClan camp, Fireheart does not go, since she is technically a queen, so Graystripe relays what happens to her later.

When she hears this, Fireheart cannot help but worry for her Clan and new kin if Tigerclaw ever becomes Leader, a resolves to make sure he cannot hurt any other cat.

Aaaaand that is the end of part 1. Will post part 2 soon and the next part for AlderSky Au. Hope you enough!

[bonefall]

if adopted kits are taken as seriously as bio kits, would ashfur even go for squilf at all considering hes brothers with her.. cousin? i think? whatever cloudtail is in relation to squilf n leaf

Cloudtail and Brindleface are two that have been a thorn in my side since I started reworking the tree and I'll get to what I'm planning with them specifically, but in summary-- an adopted child only counts one way. Allonursing is a common Clan practice and not every kit suckled by someone else becomes that person's child.

(I had to do this because I would have run out of cats and had to ban ALL same-clan shipping. Not to mention how I also try to get rid of steep age gaps on top of this)

So Cloudtail is not Ferncloud and Ashfur's fully adopted brother. He was suckled by Brindleface but raised by Fireheart, and was extremely close to Ferncloud growing up. He's Firekin, not Brindlekin.

But otherwise, when it comes to what I allow and what I block, I have Three Strict Rules

Rule 1: Three Generation Separation

I completely eliminate cats who are first cousins, which means they share a 1st degree grandparent. For an example, that would mean Swiftpaw and Brightheart are banned as a couple-- first cousins through Goldenflower and Lionheart.

Squirrelflight and Cloudtail are also first cousins.

Second cousins, cousins once removed, I usually allow those. Clan populations are too small for me to be stricter-- not to mention that Clan culture prioritizes "pure blood."

I have one MAJOR addendum, which I like to call Onestar's Exception.

I ban an ADDITIONAL 4th generation if two or more siblings are alive to remember the great-grandparent. This is because when I read Onestar's Confession, Onestar actually thinks about how cool it is that Heathertail is becoming mates with Breezepelt, his sister's grandchild, making them first cousins once removed.

It made me so uncomfortable I made the addendum on the spot, and committed to Onestar being an only child (son of Larksplash and Cloudrunner).

This also banned Dewnose x Sorrelstripe, which is why Bay and Myrtle are both sireless now.

Rule 2: Two Kit Max

A couple can have as many kits as they like, but only two are allowed to go on to have descendants of their own. All others will either have no kits, or a dead-end lineage.

So, for example, the BrackenSorrel couple had Poppyfrost and Cinderheart, so Lilyheart will not have surviving children, Nightheart is not her grandchild (IF she stays a BrackenSorrel child, since I killed her dad before she was born OOPSIE).

This prevents LionCinder situations where half of the Clan is descended from one fecund couple... though sometimes it causes headaches, like the ToadNettlePool couple, which I decided early on was going to count as ONE big litter because I'm not dealing with the headache of quantifying half-siblings.

The exception being that a cat can leave their home clan to have kits somewhere else. So, Dovewing, now a LionCinder child, does not count towards her parents' limit because she moved to ShadowClan.

(Spotfur and Sorrelstripe, btw, are getting traded over to Birch/White in exchange for Ivypool and Dovewing)

Rule 3: Queen's Rights/Sireless Litters

I have the right to eliminate a father. Sireless litters are allowed, and it's against the code itself to question who fathered a queen's kittens (This is not respected when the Clan swings towards Thistle Law).

I do this a LOT and it is extremely helpful. Brindleface's kits are sireless. Sorrelstripe's kits are sireless. Blossomfall's kits are sireless. Morningflower's kits were sireless. Rosetail's kittens (Spottedleaf and Redtail) were sireless.

So... Cloudtail

I WANTED to save Cloudtail as an adopted sibling because I really love the concept, but keeping that would be undoing two major things.

First, Whitewing and Birchfall would be first cousins and ergo banned. I would have to un-dad Whitewing's children which... it doesn't feel right, they're such a good background couple. Plus, without MORE fixes, it kills Ferncloud's bloodline. Birchfall is her ONLY surviving reproductive child, Spiderleg's bloodline through Daisy was a dead-end.

(one of my other fixes, though, is saving her grandchild Rosepetal, Cherryfall is dying instead. so check ME OUT world, i managed to save ONE ferncloud descendant. hold your applause please /s)

Second, like you mentioned, it would utterly eliminate the Ashfur/Squirrelflight drama. That's too iconic and fuels conflict in two arcs- it's such a MAJOR canon event that I have to fix around it.

So, something had to give and I decided it was Cloudtail being formally adopted. He is VERY close to Ferncloud though, and helps her raise her little brother Ashkit when Brindleface is killed.

[warrior-cats-rewritten]

🐈

(btw I love your rewrite it's so cool :3)

Thank you so much! Your cat is... Heatherwish!

Heatherwish is Longtail's sister, born of Patchpelt and Bluebellfur, and mates with Dappletail's son, Cricketfang.

Heatherwish is a pale tabby molly with blue eyes, black legs, black ears, a black tail, and distinctive black markings.

She is one of the minor characters shown in Canon!Into The Wild, and has her own sprite!

She is now the mother of Brackenfur and Cinderpelt. As far as political spectrum goes, she's softer than Goldenflower, but harder than Brindleface, her 2 goods friends. Mid-soft Codeist. She was kind to Fireheart but also agreed he shouldn't have become deputy. Bit young, bit inexperienced, and also because that was a lot of pressure and attention on said young cat.

Political spectrum of the Gen 1 Queens:

Brindleface > Heatherwish > Frostfur > Willowpelt > Goldenflower > Speckletail > Grayflower

A kind-hearted lady of War. She was ready to slaughter cats when her babies were kidnapped by one of Brokenstar's lackeys. Cricketfang stayed behind as a nursery guard, but Heatherwish joined the patrol that would get the stolen kittens back.

She was very protective over Cinderpaw after the accident, though not the way Fireheart is. Her main worry is that Cinderpaw is going to get infected, or that she will feel worthless next to her gifted brother Brackenpaw, or that whatever happened could happen again if Cinderpaw does get back out there. She is supportive when her daughter wants to become a Medicine Cat, and this actually causes a tiny chain of events that makes Fireheart re-evaluate his internal biases.

He couldn't understand at first why Heatherwish and Cricketfang were so happy for Cinderpaw, and when he said it to Yellowfang, she finally snapped him out of it. Heatherwish was happy that her daughter was alive. Happy that her daughter discovered something she liked. Her warrior status didn't mean a thing to Heatherwish, her baby was happy and that was enough.

Heatherwish's best subject growing up was battle training, but her worst was history. Girl could tell you battle tactics to absolutely destroy your enemies but she could not tell you a thing about the founding of her Clan. You're better off going to Longtail. Regardless, she graduated MUCH faster than Longtail did, as she took up Queen Studies to become a Semi-Permanent Queen, and Longtail/Longpaw REALLY struggled with hunting.

Speaking of, she is incredibly close with her brother, Longtail, and when Tigerclaw got himself exiled and his apprentice/daughter was transferred to her, she was over the moon! She taught Lynxpaw everything she could.

She grew very close with her apprentice, and was always reporting her good progress to Goldenflower.

She also recommended Lynxpaw's warrior name, Lynxpetal, to Fireheart, which he kept in mind when he finally gave Lynxpaw her long-awaited name.

She cheers when Longtail is made deputy, and in Graystripe's Clan (Then) is one of the cats against Graystripe becoming deputy. When Graystripe does a little digging, he finds that it isn't out of dislike for him, but because him becoming deputy was "the one good thing that came out of this mess."

A lot of bad things happened to Hearherwish throughout TPB. Patchpelt had died. Cinderpelt's accident had been terrifying. She lost her friend Brindleface.

Cricketfang had been killed in the Battle of Bloodclan.

She wasn't angry with Graystripe. She was angry with the world that had now blinded her brother.

She almost retires, during Graystripe's Clan (Then). But in the end, decides against it. Longtail however, expresses a desire to go into the Elder's den. He's too tired to keep going. He can still fight and hunt, but everything he has been through in his life has been a bit too much for him. She relents, and he goes on to enjoy a nice early retirement.

After that, the spark in Heatherwish never fully comes back. She is still the kindhearted fighter she was, but you can tell she's missing something.

Of course, she makes the journey to the Lake just fine, helping out Cinderpelt whenever she needs it, as Brambleclaw is helping Longtail the most. Sometimes it's as simple as carrying Cinderpelt's herb satchel, sometimes her daughter needs to lean on her for support just to get through some of the terrain.

She fights valiantly when a badger charges into camp, followed by a Herd of Boars, but sadly, in the same battle that claims Cinderpelt, Heatherwish is also taken. She dies fighting beside Brackenfur, protecting her son from a boar's awful tusks

[southie-dakotie]

warriors asks…! 📖, 🎥, 🤔, ☯️

LOVE U DARLINGE MWAH

📖 Fav comic page from any of the mangas and why

Literally this one from the skyclan/sol backstory one. Hes fucking meeping

📽: fav warriors related youtuber?

ALWAYS flightfootwarrior/crowrosive. He was such a huge influence for my art style wtf. BUT ALSO giingersnaps has such big brain for designs and animator projects

🤔 Whats the biggest series plothole that bugs you?

Not so much plotholes but just like. The erins not proofreading their own shit. Loudbelly died somewhere in the first 2 books and yet hes mentioned again in the lake territories???? Girl he DIED YEARS AGO......... AND greystripe doing his little preamble when he retired saying hes so proud of his kids and cant believe his daughter is leader of riverclan...... THATS THE WRONG RIVERCLAN SHE CAT........ i would make an excellent editor please fucking hire me

☯️ What dynamic between two cats has got you up at night pacing for hours? (Romantic, platonic, familial, etc)

I was thinking last week about how brindleface and tigerstar were nursery friends. They practically grew up as siblings. She ACTIVELY LOOKED UP TO HIM when they were apprentices/young warriors. And then he killed her to lure the dogs closer to thunderclans camp. I have a feeling tiger didn't care in the slightest but brindle. :(

[blimbo-buddy]

🔥sandstorm?

I don't like her being RedTail and RunningWind/BrindleFace's kid. Her parents should be kittypets and her and FireStar would then have same things going on where they don't show any care towards their Kittypet heritage and eventually go into a downwards spiral of not caring for Kittypets. Give her self confidence issues due to her parents, make her overwork herself, make her feel insecure and overcompensate with aggression.

She's turned into "FireStar's wife" at this point and also I don't care for her or FireStar's relationship. I think her and FireStar starting off great but slowly becoming strained is great, the love was there, but now it's slowly fading away like the flame of a candle or campfire

[cryptidclaw]

Do you have any info about ashfur/fall in your rewrite??

Ok so I could go on forever abt him bec he's like a secondary villain in Po3 but here's me rambling abt his motives:

His mother Brindleface taught him this idea if the perfect Thunder Warrior life, become a respected warrior, get a loving and dedicated mate, have kits, cary on your legacy. He believed his mother deserved this over anyone else and yet... her mate was Darkstripe who cared little for her or his kits and ended up betraying them all. And to top it all off his mother was killed simply for dog bait by the bastard his father was obsessed with.

Ashfall became obsessed with going above and beyond in achieving this perfect life. He wanted to make his mother proud, he wanted to have what she had wanted as some sort of way to make up for her short life.

He becomes jealous of MANY cats who seem to have achieved this life so easily, he becomes isolated from much of the order... He has caused a rift in his relationship with his sister due to his judgment over her choices (she chose to not follow this lifestyle their mother taught, she had kits on her own and didn't take a mate for years) , at one point Ash even implied that Fern's kits' deaths were the fault of them not having a father....

Ash becomes OBSESSED with Squirrelflight, to him she is the perfect mate, she is not only a young, beautiful and strong Thunder Molly, she is also the daughter of the Leader and Second... if he were to become her mate he would be part of the leadership's family. Their kits would be heirs and if Squirrelflight become leader, Ash himself could have a chance at being Second. To him this was the peak of the honorable warrior's life , to achieve this would be the greatest success. To him he "loved" Squirrelflight because she was a symbol of his chance at that life he so desperately wanted.

Squirrelflight left him because he was obsessive and she could tell he loved the idea of her instead of her... and she knew she still loved someone else (Crowfeather). Ashfall was DEVASTATED, it was as though his whole future had been ripped away from him. Its no wonder he switched to being obsessed with vengeance instead.

...

Also similar to his reasons for becoming attached to Squirrelflight, Ash became obsessed with Hawkfrost bec he symbolized Ash's new goals. Hawk would give him vengeance, Hawk would love him, Hawk would make him his mate and Second, Hawk would help him get the final laugh.

[redclan-clangen-story]

All adult cat sexualities (Moon 8)

Firestar is attracted to toms, but could, theoretically be attracted to a molly maybe one day (Homoflexible)

Longtail is attracted to toms only (Homosexual)

Yellowfang is attracted to toms mostly but has crushed on a pretty molly here and there (Bisexual)

Robinspots is into mollys (Lesbian)

Ashfur is into mollys and toms (Bisexual)

Brindleface is into most cats (Pansexual)

Cloverdrift is into toms and mollies (Bisexual)

Hemlockdawn is into mollies (Lesbian)

Notail is into toms (Heterosexual)

Fumblepebble is not attracted to any cat, but could love just about anyone (Asexual, Panromantic)

Goldenflower is into toms (Heterosexual)

Lavenderdrop is into most cats (Pansexual)

Stormrumble is attracted to pretty mollies and buff toms (Bisexual)

Barleybreeze is mostly into toms but also Goldenflower (Homoflexible)

Heartface is into any cat really (Pansexual)

Fireflyshimmer is into toms (Heterosexual)

Mousefur is not attracted to anyone in any way please leave her alone she is NOT interested (Aroace)

Runningwind is attracted to toms mostly but is also into mollies sometimes (Bisexual)

Silverstream is attracted to most cats (Pansexual)

Cottonfluff is into toms and mollies (Bisexual)

Beetlechaser is into toms and mollies (Bisexual)

Ravenflight is attracted to toms (Homosexual)

Greystripe is attracted to toms and mollies (Bisexual)

Smudgepelt is attracted to toms (Homosexual)

Sandstorm is attracted to pretty mollies and idiot toms (Bisexual)

Swiftbird is attracted to mollies mostly, but also toms sometimes (Bisexual)

Cinderpelt is attracted to pretty toms and pretty mollies (Bisexual)

Brightsong is into toms (Heterosexual)

Petuniashine is into mollies (Lesbian)

Ferncloud is into most cats (Pansexual)

Sloedusk is attracted to toms (Heterosexual)

Tulipglade is not attracted to anyone physically, but has only ever had feelings for Zenithsky (Demiromantic, Asexual, and Homoromantic)

Brambleface is into toms and mollies (Bisexual)

Tawnypelt is into pretty mollies and pathetic toms (Bisexual)

Cloudtail is attracted to most cats (Pansexual)

Nuthatchcry is attracted to mollies (Lesbian)

Tornadorush is into mollies (Heterosexual)

Larkswoop is into toms (Heterosexual)

Zenithsky is into most cats, but has only ever loved Tulipglade (Pansexual, Demiromantic)

Snowowl is attracted to most cats (Pansexual)

Stormfur is attracted to tough toms and mollies (Kratosexual, Bisexual)

Sleetfall is into mollies (Lesbian)

Speckletail is into toms (Heterosexual)

Emberblaze is into any cat (Pansexual)

Brokentail has no physical attraction, but is romantically interested in most cats (Panromantic, Asexual)

[boilingrain]

perhaps hawkash hypokits?

I decided to try to name these hypokits, but admittedly I'm not very good with names

Colorpoint Hawkfrost go brrr. Yes I know that genetically he wouldn't be a colorpoint and would instead just carry it, but consider: I love colorpoints. I am choosing to ignore canon and saying that Tigerclawstar carries colorpoint because I am too attached to Mothwing & Hawkfrost being colorpoints

My Ashfur carries colorpoint because my Snowfur (& Bluestar but she's not relevant to this conversation) is a colorpoint so. Hypothetically he could get it from Whitestorm (I could be wrong about that but you know what? It's not like the actual series cares about genetics so I think I'm allowed to also ignore them sometimes if it means I can give a character a cool design)

I feel like Ashfur would totally name one of his kits after his mother, Brindleface. Admittedly I chose the suffix -mask based on Brindlemask being a colorpoint, so her name being so similar to Brindleface's is actually unintentional

I didn't have as solid of a name idea for the other kit, though. Ashfur would totally give a kit that he had (with anyone other than Squilf) the prefix Squirrel- but I'm not totally sure that name would fit this guy (but maybe that's the point. Maybe he's stuck with the name of someone one of his fathers was obsessed with. Maybe he winds up changing it to something new, something that's his own).

If these two were either born before Hawkfrost's death or born in an AU where Hawkfrost isn't killed at the lake by Brambleclaw (or is killed later than in canon), I think perhaps he would be named after either Mudclaw or Tigerclawstar.

Alternative prefixes could also maybe be Bramble, Tadpole, Frog, or Branch.

Anyways, I feel like both of then would wind up training in the Dark Forest at some point. Either they're training with Peepaw Tigerclawstar or they're training with Hawkfrost.

I imagine that at least one of them would be actively antagonistic towards Holly, Jay & Lion (at least during Po3 and possibly OotS). Take a look at Ashfur & Hawkfrost and tell me that at least one of them wouldn't severely fuck up their kits by using them as pawns against Squirrelflight and/or Brambleclaw.

Also they're both Polydactyl, a trait they got from Hawkfrost (who got it from Tigerclawstar)

[t4twnyclaw]

Hey if you have anything more to say about the firestar doesn't exist so the og apprentice gang + longtail save thunderclan instead I would love to hear it

yes actually!! i have many to say about it but I felt like firestar-centric AU's are overdone so i got self-conscious but ANYWAYS.

I wanted the AU to give more personality to ferncloud and sandstorm, (and silverstream) but i also didn't think only one of the og apprentices could've taken on firestars role so instead their 'importance' is divided up. (like they're a unit, they *cant* function without eachother in this sense)

-> greypaw is the son of whitestorm and willowpelt -> ravenpaw and dustpaw are brothers but not specified parents -> sandpaw is a known loner kit with brindleface and rosetail being her mother figures

sandpaw is rough around the edges and doesn't listen to others, shes stubborn and a major supporter of tigerclaw, darkstripe and whitestorm. her ideology starts to crumble as dustpaw and ravenpaw peel back the dangers that come from it (they notice how much of a danger tigerclaw is) and shes extremely self-conscious of her unknown parentage and roots.

when sandpaw realizes that her ideologies doesn't line up with her role model she becomes withdrawn, spiraling further into self-doubt and lack of identity since tigerclaw would definitely take a jab and her lack of 'clan-blood'. his disappointment in her crushes her and she doesn't protest any further in fear of forever ruining the relationship she has with tigerclaw.

SO the burden of knowing tigerclaw is evil lies entirely on yellowfang (who notices right away how dangerous he is) ravenpaw, dustpaw and longtail. later on cinderpelt also feels off about tigerclaw.

greystripe finds out about mistyfoot and stonefur being the children of bluestar and uses this information to re-join thunderclan since leopardstar wants him out of riverclan

longtail tells dustpaw about the things that tigerclaw and thistleclaw would do and what part of the warrior code they'd twist and change

sandpaw and greypaw go on the quest to get windclan back and then to get frostfur's kits back. (more characterization would also be given to frostfur here)

ravenpaw is the one that brings yellowfang to thunderclan, and yellowfang's relationship with him is more akin to what hers and runningnose was-- unfortunately ravenpaw has no desire to become a medicine cat.

greystripe still kills whiteclaw and without an emotional buffer for his emotions he becomes more reclusive and withdrawn and when the time comes he actually leaves thunderclan to be with silverstream.

[sliverpelt-cats]

i love the thought of Redtail being Fireheart/star's StarClan guide, since he was trying to prove Redtail's murder.

i also considered "what if sandstorm's half-kittypet and all of her kittypet tormenting to firepaw/heart kinda backfires?"

so like, fireheart learns more about redtail, his kittypet mate, how sandstorm came to live in ThunderClan, and redtail helps fireheart try prove to bluestar that tigerclaw killed him.

my favourite concept is that cats can't move on until their deaths have been avenged, in the cases of murder, or they accomplished what they wanted in life.

redtail, as above, couldn't join starclan until fireheart proved his murder, and he saw sandstorm grow up.

brindleface couldn't join starclan until she was sure her kits would be fine without her.

runningwind took a moment to join starclan, because he was conflicted if sandstorm still needed him*.

lionheart was worried for his kits, but he knew frostfur would protect them as best she could. once he knew cinderpelt was sure of herself as a medicine cat, and saw that brightheart had cloudtail by her side, he could join StarClan.

*I headcanon that Redtail and Runningwind were so close, they raised sandstorm together :)