#also; we haven't met Ares in this campaign yet but in that moment..... hi. I Felt like I was seeing him

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[Saint Barbarian Rollo Enters The Fight]

oh yeah normal church occurance dw about it

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burdened by Knowledge in light of the lostbelts' premise of a multiverse and the solomon movie being released (and invading my thoughts Consequently) that things would have gone SO much better in the timeless temple if we had had river instead of gudao. like can you IMAGINE?? and if your herc was there too?? like 🪦. straight up just 💀. F in the CHAT there is no GOD the best timeline got steamrolled by a 2ft tall shrimp with better pr 🔥😭🔥

asjfkhKAJHKJDHFKHJ I'm so flattered????

I haven't seen the movie for GToT (the fact that the abbreviation for the movie looks like someone crying and shaking their fist is all the summary you need for that chapter) as it hasn't been released here in the US nor subtitled yet, but I remember it fully when I played the chapter in-game in 2019!

IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT because I always theorized in my head if River was the protagonist Master for FGO and if I conducted things within my parameters for that, instead of how I wrote River's story for post-Part-1 for my Roleplay circles!

Heracles/Alcides is pretty versatile regardless of where I put her since she's a Heroic Spirit.

Disclaimer: I fucking love Grand Temple of Time. It is my favorite chapter and I love everything about how it is written and the characterization we get for Solomon/Romani, Goetia, Mash, and Ritsuka. This is just me playing around with how that story would go differently if my OCs were in place of Ritsuka.

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So... without giving too much away!!! Uh, if River had been with Team Chaldea since the beginning, Goetia would have been incomplete and probably would have used Lev/Flauros or attempted every avenue throughout the Singularities to convince River to give up saving humanity. Also from the moment they met River would have had a weird attachment to Romani beyond just 'oh you're my acting director now through all this but we're also friends since we like the same stuff hahaha'.

....It's....! A sad but also interesting thing....!

...Also River's Berserk Button would get pressed with Mash's sacrifice because he would have basically adopted her as a little sister by this point. Even moreso when Romani sacrifices himself. So you have a master pyromancer recklessly throwing all hands with a mass of ancient demons. HAHAHAHAHHAHA.

Also having Heracles/Alcides (in-story everyone refers to her as Red Archer/Oeta until she reveals her identity in Babylonia) in the final fight in Solomon's Temple would have had to included intervention from one of the Argonauts or from Artemis (only Greek god available at that time) to kickstart her Spirit Origin and return her to Grand Berserker status, in which case oh man she would have wiped the DECK with Goetia.

For the DnD homebrew campaign I did on this last year, the last time she went Grand Berserker was to fight Actual Hera who had absorbed the whole Greek pantheon and then took over the FUCKING Mooncell. Alcides didn't have an immediate win then only because (and this was in roleplay verse) she contracted Goetia to herself and was passing a good portion of her mana through him to keep him existing and fighting at the same time (he didn't have the Incineration Ritual nor the Ars Paulina to give him energy).

Alcides could hold her own against Goetia, not to mention the narrative I've given there is that over time as a hero she lost her empathy to humanity and at the end of her life was a nihilistic and destructive demigod tyrant, so Alcides would be able to understand and potentially get through to Goetia.

Now I think it's a stretch to say Alcides could have defeated Goetia (esp with Ars Paulina and the Incineration Ritual), but she could have held him/most of his aspects back for a GOOD amount of time without the other Heroic Spirits having to go as hard as they initially did, at least enough to spare Mash or clear the way for Romani sooner.

EXCEPT THAT'S A LIE! I LIED! ALCIDES HAS REINCARNATION PANDORA AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!