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spruceoutoffive · 1 year
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i lowkey need eli or someone else doesn’t really matter to continuously remind peter of the fact that he’s a great-uncle which also means he’s basically grandpa aged
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Why Derek has the best 'Alpha arc'
Basing this on the show and the movie too Derek had been all the 'types' of werewolves, going through at least once all the eyes colors.
Yellow: is the base color werewolves get when they are first turned or when they are born
Blue: after he 'accidentally' kills Paige in his teenage years after trying to turn her into a werewolf
Red: after he kills Peter and steal the power from him to avenge Laura who had been killed by Peter to get the Alpha status
Blue: he loses the alpha status after he heals his sister Cora form a mistletoe poisoning (he takes so much of her pain that not even the Alpha strenght can keep up and 'dissapears' in order to save Derek's own life since if they take too much pain from others they could die)
Yellow: when kate de-aged him and he was left with his eyes from before he met Paige, but he slowly regain his blue
Evolved omega: altho his eyes don't change colors he can now fully tunr into a wolf
Red: during the movie in the last scene, when Parrish burn him and the nogitsune he turns into a True Alpha
Derek went from your typical bad guy that wants revenge, power and blood to your tough gentle guy who is very wise and considerate of others.
He started off as probably one of the worst Alpha on the show and became one even for the wrong or worst reasons:
He went around biting teens to build himself a pack to help him fight the Alpha pack and two of the three he bite ended up death (yet he still care for them all but his way of teaching them their 'new nature' wasn't the best and despite it was the only way he knew he could've done something more, but since they are his betas he inevitably cares about them and from a simple pack bond it becomes something more personal, cause in the end he cared for them for who they were and loved them for just being themselves)
He killed his uncle to gain the Alpha status for getting revenge and to fulfill his greed for power (that he thought maybe could help him heal or feel fine again but it never happened)
He put others in danger to achive what he wanted (like when he got Scott and Stiles to help him kill/hunt Peter)
But from being this big crappy man he lost his powers - that he literally made a bloody bath to get - to save his sister, to save the little family he had left.
He started to understand more the people he had around and who they were, he started to care for them genuinely. He was worried sick for Stiles bein possessed, cared for his betas (whoever was left) and had more interest in ensuring his friends' safety. His FRIENDS!
He started to see people - Scott, Stiles and the others - as his friends and not someone that would eventually betray or use him and that somehow cared for him too - even if most of the time he was thrown around like a fighting doll.
And then he remained an omega and evolved into a wolf, an actual wolf and saved the day - generally speaking.
He went from 'I'm gonna kill you' to 'I care for you' which is a lot for a character like Derek. Someone who went through years of pain and sorrow, having almost no one at all to rely onto and left to deal with whatever Kate did to him and with the guilt of getting his family killed - which isn't is fault!
And then we got the movie:
He has a son, Eli, whom he loves and cares for throughout the entire movie and I'm sure he was a great dad, maybe a little strict and traditional-minded on a few things, but definitely a good and caring father
He almost get killed and when he's fine and the wound on his neck is sealed, he 'dies' protecting his son - or better to say, stepping in the way of a sword
He helps the Sheriff with cases when at the beginning he was one of the few who wanted Derek in a prison - whether supernatural or a simple prison cell
Ans then, at the end, he sacrifice himself to save everyone and gets burned alive which turns him into a TRUE ALPHA!
This whole build up of events, of development and changes, going from bad to good, from a reckless and greedy man to someone one would look up to, a wise man who had seen enough and doesn't want others to live what he lived.
And like the Sheriff said
I have never seen anyone take the kind of punishment that Derek Hale took… And kept taking… In order to protect the people he loved.
He died burning alive, he died like his family did. Burned alive.
And this is worthy of a True Alpha. He sacrificed himself for everyone's sake and after his whole life was hell he wnet through with yet again another round of pain and tears. He had to leave his son alone to save him!
And he could've just let Scott get burned and stayed with his son but Derek was so selfless that he decided to take the burden upon himself once more.
Derek is the best Alpha in teen wolf - show and movie - and he's actually worth of being called a true alpha cause he earned it over and over and over again, he learned and become better, he healed and become a better person and leader. He earned his title as True Alpha.
Derek deserved, earned and is worthy of the True Alpha status and it costed him his life and his time with his son, and for what?
The people he saw as his family and he chose them above himself.
He did it for the people he loved.
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Teen Wolf (2023) Movie Thoughts (Mostly Ranting)
Mainly, I'm disappointed.
First here are the things I'm neutral about/did like:
I honestly thought Liam was Stiles at first. It could just be me, but Sprayberry strongly resembles O'Brien, and Liam came across more like a mature, collected Stiles than a grown Liam in that first scene.
For all the issues I have with Derek's storyline, I did like both the writing and the acting presented dad!Derek. I liked the fact Derek is helping out law enforcement when there's fires being set around Beacon Hills.
Unfortunately, this is pretty much all I liked, and to be clear, mistaking Liam for Stiles is something I'm neutral about. I didn't particularly care one way or another about Liam in the movie, and I was fine with Stiles not being in the movie.
Liam's girlfriend is another thing I'm neutral about. I'm not going to hate on an actress for accepting a job when another actress was done dirty. I didn't dislike this new character, but I didn't see anything that made me interested in her, either.
Now onto what I didn't like.
For all I liked dad!Derek, it rubbed me the wrong way that there was no mention at all of Eli's mother. It seemed pretty clear to me that Eli was Derek's biological son, and so, this is not a case of single Derek adopting a kid, which, I'd be totally down for.
Look, was he married? Is he divorced? As much as I usually hate the trope of dead mothers, is she dead? Did he have a one-night stand, and she handed the baby over with explicit instructions to never contact her? Did he get involved with another horrible woman, and there's a court order stating that, if she comes within hundred feet of Beacon Hills before Eli is eighteen, she'll be arrested?
Moving on, I could unhappily accept complete lack of Corey, but Mason as a cop?
No.
Nope.
Uh-uh.
This is like if Lydia was a deputy.
Bear with the jumbled way I try to express this.
Sheriff Stilinski and Parrish are both intelligent men. In this universe, maybe, BLM doesn't even need to be a thing, because, the justice system is largely fair and about actually protecting people.
If so, then, the police would be essentially a blue-collar job, and I absolutely do not intend to demean honest, hard-working blue-collar workers.
Mason had an insanely high GPA, he genuinely loved science, was a bonafide bookworm, and there were hints he was from an upper-middle-class background.
If he decided on the justice system, he'd be a lawyer or some type of specialist, but I really doubt he'd decide on the justice system in the first place.
He wasn't particularly athletic, and while he wasn't one to naturally challenge authority, he wasn't one who would try to uphold authority, either. Yes, he wanted to help people, to protect them, but he was more, 'let's figure this out so that I can get back to kissing my boyfriend, working on my grades, and learning all this cool stuff about my friends,' than anything.
But moving on, I wish I could have liked the Ethan mention, but it's not great when a person goes to a dangerous place to put themselves in danger without telling their significant other, and it's even worse when they decide to do all this despite knowing that their significant other has big, big problems with them doing so.
Assuming Ryan Kelley or whoever that bare-bottom belonged to was okay with their naked bottom being shown and touched on TV, then, yay for equal opportunity fanservice, but ugh to Parrish/Malia.
Ugh to Malia apparently going by the surname Hale now.
I could have been on-board with Harris' return, but the movie had to frell that up.
I accepted a long time ago that Harris being Jackson's biological father wouldn't happen, but it's canon that Harris showed genuine concern, possibly even affection, for Jackson.
And of course, his motivation is that, like almost all the villains, whether correct in doing so or not, he blames Scott for his pain and suffering.
I wouldn't say Adam Fristoe was bad, he does seem to be a good actor, but aside from all my problems with Harris' role, I felt as if Fristoe was playing a way different character than Harris ever was.
Random, but when I first the line, "They call me Mister Tibbs," I thought, 'But the character is a detective.'
I had a similar thing when Peter referred to Deaton as 'Mister' Deaton. He is a licensed veterinary doctor.
The thing is, I honestly don't think this was a race thing with Deaton, but that's where my mind went.
Finally, onto Allison.
This had the potential to be great, but it wasn't.
Erica and Boyd were never brought up. So, everyone going on about how Allison wouldn't harm a fifteen-year-old boy- how old was Boyd when Chris himself said, paraphrased, 'Caught came awfully close to kill.'? Erica was sixteen when Allison shot an arrow at her whilst she was lying on the ground from another arrow shot.
Whether Allison ever truly felt bad for contributing to Erica's death or whether she was just horrified she became this person she recognised as immoral due to manipulation was, arguably, never made clear in the series.
That could have been explored. Has everything made her a coldly practical person who is determined never to cross certain moral lines and to follow this path of being a warrior, or is she a passionate, empathetic person who is trying to heal from the mistakes she wishes she could take back but knows she can't?
Chris had a line about how he'd kill to protect a fifteen-year-old boy, but whether he actually did hold a gun to Scott's head to get Allison to agree to stop seeing Scott or that was unreliable narration, he did do a lot of other things to make it clear that teenage shifters were lesser in his eyes.
And I'm still convinced, if he could have, he would have locked Lydia in his basement after her fugue state until she either died from a combination of starvation, dehydration, and possibly infection, or until she turned, whereupon he either would have killed her or secretly deposited her in Eichen's.
In the end, it was all about Scott/Allison, not about Allison rediscovering/reclaiming herself.
This is minor, but Scott not knowing what 'wistful' means was stupid. I didn't buy that.
That's all for now.
Fin.
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jessie-jem · 1 year
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Ahem okay so I finished it and I'm gonna do a little messy overview of my thoughts so just WARNING FOR TEEN WOLF THE MOVIE SPOILERS
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Seriously if you haven't seen the movie and are planning to, just skedaddle away
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Okay but like WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT MASTERPIECE????? It was SO GOOD???? I loved seeing all of the original actors again because they wrjahsnahahehwh ugh they were what made the show so special in the first place so to see them all back and together again was so special. Obviously I wish Stiles was there. I already made a post about why it would have been so good for him to have been there because of his background with the nogitsune and the nogitsune playing such a big role in the movie and I still 100% believe it but I'm glad they didn't cast another person to play Stiles just so he could be there.
And like, I know the woman with Liam played a really important role and was ultimately the reason Scott lived but she just felt so out of place there? Like logically I know her main purpose was just to replace Kira because the show needed a kitsune to fight the nogitsune, and that's fine or whatever and tbh I never liked Kira so I'm not mad about her absence. But at the same time like... I don't even remember this new girl's name? And why was Liam in Japan anyway? That whole thing was confusing to me so if you understand just like comment or something.
Eli was fine... Very young, maturity wise, but that's sorta to be expected? Although I think the whole thing would have gone the exact same way without him, I did like seeing dad!Derek, so that's something I suppose.
As far as the other characters (besides Derek and Allison because lordie do I have things to say) I feel like Scott slipped back into his role really well. Tyler Posey does a wonderful job with that character and he really shined throughout the movie which I really loved. Lydia was quite a let down to me at first because she was my favorite character in the show so I had really high Expectations but I mean by the end she was back to her badass self and I really adored her. The reason why she broke things off with Stiles took a piece of my heart and crumpled it to the ground shshahwhsdhdt I loved those two together. I never really had opinions about Parrish, Malia, and Liam so I don't really have anything to say about them.
I feel like Jackson was only really there for comic relief? Like he had that moment with Lydia encouraging her to wail but that was his only moment lmao. I keep bringing things back to Stiles but Jackson totally slipped into Stiles' comedic relief role and I can't decide if I like it yet or not.
As far as Allison goes, I loved seeing our badass back! She's such a fighter and she's so wonderful and even though she was playing the "villain" for half the time I still really felt bad for her because I mean... She didn't ask to be brought back to life? She was trying to pass on, not come back, and yet here she was, painfully confused and trying not to lose her shit on everyone. I really felt bad for her.
And okay, Derek. I never LOVED Derek but like WHY DID THEY DO THAT TO HIM?????? don't get me wrong it was poetic or whatever but like WAS THERE NOT A BETTER WAY? and like did it occur to him that his SON WAS RIGHT THERE LIKE HE DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS HIM??? he told Scott he was part of his pack and then he didn't even say goodbye 😭 idk maybe it was too painful for him or something? Either way it hurt so bad 😭
The last thing I wanna say is about the music score of the movie because tbh that shit makes or breaks a movie and this score was SO GOOD. it made me cry at the end (genuinely don't think I would have cried if the music wasn't so on point) and dhshshhe whoever scored the movie did a really great job.
Anyway, my heart is successfully in pieces on the floor. I really enjoyed that and now I'll probably rewatch the series because I really miss Stiles and like... Season 3 Lydia.
(Side tangent: does anyone else skip the first season on the rewatch? I love the character plots in the first season but idk I just like season two better because everything is established and Lydia is less awful? Idk lemme know)
Also if you read this far, you're a saint, have cookie 🍪
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