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telomeke-bbs · 4 months
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BAD BUDDY EPISODE 5 – THE TWO-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE KISS™
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(above) Bad Buddy's Pat and Pran caught in the moment just before their second, phenomenal kiss on the rooftop (Ep.5 [4/4] 11.52), which Pat will believe is the confirmation of new beginnings, but which Pran is convinced is a final kiss goodbye
In honor of the two-year anniversary of this life-changing moment (that first aired on 26 November 2021), here's a video reminder of what it was like for all of us watching this for the first time:
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Shoutout to bubbly Tui Puttachat Pongsuchat in the bottom row second from left, who played the nosy Khamtip in I Feel You Linger in the Air. 😍
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j-miki · 2 years
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gennianydots · 1 year
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Sooo, I was doing my daily rewatch of Bad Buddy Episode 5 part 4/4, you know, how it be sometimes and it really got me this time for whatever reason. I was reminded of a convo I had with Abby aka @abstractelysium where she mentioned this meta and I can’t let it go. Also I have bad buddy brain rot now until forever because it’s my favorite show but hold onto your hats while I ramble.
My thoughts: *the kiss*
For Pat, the kiss is a relief, the best thing. Pat sees this boy he grew up with and is slowly falling for and he gets to kiss him like he wants to and it’s confirmation of his feelings being returned. It’s the best thing! It’s a “My crush likes me back!” happy dance, the whole lovey-dovey she-bang. It’s a thank god we finally got to kiss, I understand our tension better now, I want to be not just friends but more than friends. Pat doesn’t even think about his parents expectations when he is kissing Pran, in that moment, he’s just a boy who likes another boy. We can see this when he smiles after they stop kissing.
For Pran, the kiss is the worst, the worst possible thing that could happen to him. Yes, it’s confirmation that he still loves Pat, that this horrible crush he just cannot get over is still persistent and alive. It’s confirmation that whatever he has been holding inside (his love for Pat) is now so much harder to deal with because of their parents expectations, their faculty’s fighting at school, and now, Pat seemingly returning Pran’s feelings! For Pran, it’s the end of the world. Pat just had to go and catch feelings and make Pran’s life that much harder. But! Despite all those things, Pran lets himself enjoy the kiss and even kiss back. Why? Because, for a few seconds, he lets himself be just a boy who likes another boy. That’s why Pran kisses Pat the second time. Then, through the tears, through the anguish, and the one happy moment he lets himself have, Pran has to go. In my head, Pran has had a crush on Pat for forever and has always thought of his crush as a nuisance. What’s more is that he’s been heartbroken his whole life, because he thinks he and Pat simply cannot be together. Their parents hate each other so they need to hate each other, too, right? So Pran remembers, oh yeah, this cannot happen. A relationship like that cannot happen. It’s easier to go back to being heartbroken all over again, forgetting that it ever happened, it’s easier to ignore his feelings like he has for his whole life.
It’s like Cinderella holding on to her special night with the Prince thinking she’s never going to see him again, but because she got this magical moment she can hold onto, maybe just maybe that evening is enough to carry her through her worst days. But as we know, the Prince doesn’t forget about it and similarly, Pat doesn’t let Pran forget, he downright refuses to not annoy Pran about what transpired on the rooftop.
👨🏽‍❤️‍💋‍👨🏾 🌃 I love these boys so much. I love Ohm and Nanon’s acting so much. Part of me wishes I had been here when it was airing but oh by gosh by golly I sure am glad I’m here now. 💜💙
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dribs-and-drabbles · 1 year
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#BADBUDDYREWATCH
Ep 5
You know how Pran asked if Pat was Pran's boyfriend in ep 2 as a joke despite actually wanting that...well, after Pran's heart gets broken by learning that Pat likes Ink and any hope for him and Pat to be together has been shattered, Pran somehow is able to take it to the next level and ask Pat if he's Pran's wife. I mean, go big or go home right? What's that saying that there's always an element of truth in a joke. Pran is so brave. (This also applies to the "Who on earth told you this was cute?")
I love that there's so much of that condensed milk stuff in that sandwich that it flies out when Pat picks it up and drips over himself and the worktop.
Also...@telomeke-bbs pointed out that when Pran's making his own breakfast at the beginning of ep 2 he only makes a sandwich but here there's also eggs, sausages, and salad...which might mean he made all that for Pat.
Oh and then Pat seeing Pran eating the sausage might be why he made Pran sausages when he cooked breakfast in bed in ep 8...because he thought that's what Pran liked/ate.
Pat's "I hope you're not as cruel as to make me wait outside" has always interested me because you can hear the teasing/whining tone and also because he uses the polite form of 'pronouns' of P'Pran and P'Pat instead of the informal/rude 'guu/meung' which they mainly use (not sure what it means when P' is being used for both people but brushing over that...)...BUT I think Pat ends with a 'ja' instead of the polite 'krap', which according to @absolutebl is "used with very close friends/family and by the queer community". I think Pat uses it here because they've been joking about the 'wife' status...but I wouldn't be surprised if this had an effect on Pran even before the pleading 'na'.
LAKYIM my beloved!
If you haven't read @telomeke-bbs analysis of this first scene you should - there's a fantastic bit about how a water splash is a substitute for saying 'asshole'. Love it!
"If I see any stain on them, I'll barge into your room and yell at you" -> Pat must have had a huge dilemma with this...I mean, does he clean the dishes well to impress Pran and get his praise? Or does he do them poorly in the hope that Pran will barge into his room and scold him? I mean...that's a difficult choice!
(omg I've only just got to the credits and I've written all this already...sorry it's going to be a long one...I mean, I guess it's to be expected since it's ep 5...)
Oh the embarrassment! We've all been there Pran.
I've never really understood the "Don't butt in next time" line... Anyone got any thoughts?
Ooof Cloaked Emotions by Lama House...another piece of music that stabs me in the heart...and the title fitting the scene -> Pran hiding his feelings at seeing Ink and Pat together.
Pat eating properly because of Pran 😭
Because of the order of filming, it looks like Pat gets a haircut before his date with Ink.
😂 I can't with the horse sound effect 🤣
The mental gymnastics Pa must have done without realising to justify why she should tag along to the date that she told Pat to go on with Ink.
"I don't have to tell you I love you. I fed you pancake". AFTER INK ASKED PA TO FEED HER THE PANCAKE AND THEN INK FEEDS PA THE PANCAKE.
I'm irrationally disturbed by the continuity error with the hands on the guitar.
But that gets erased because the choreography of Pat turning his head away unblinking when Pran looks at him on that bit of music (6:06 in part 2) is DIVINE.
Also, I love Pran's hair and I know it must just be because the instrument shop scenes were filmed early on and therefore Nanon's hair was shorter/tidier (like Ohm's) but still, I love that they both look so good during Pat's Oh moment.
When I first watched this I didn't need Pa's repeated voiceover of the four signs because I got it just from Pat's expression...but now I don't mind it.
But also back to the music again because the way they edited the recap of the four signs (actually the whole instrument shop scene) with Pat and Pran's head turns, their actions, or the camera angle/frame changes hitting either the piano chords or the 'silent' suspensions in the music is actual choreography and adds to why this scene is SO GOOD. They are dancing to the music...and the irony of them being in shop surrounded by instruments...
I've just noticed that during the bread-eating scene, the pink and purple of the condensed milk tube is amplified by the painting on the wall behind, the sticky tape and post-it notes behind, and the selection of pens in front...
This has already been pointed out, but the lyrics of the song Pat suggests they sing in the flashback, Never by 25 hours, basically reflects Pat's loneliness when Pran went away. brb crying.
When We Were Younger instrumental over the flashback scene 💖
That flashback is Pat wondering if Pran liked him, no? I mean, I know Pat is realising his feelings for Pran and remembering back to high school is part of that...but that particular memory is Pran telling Pat he wants to write something that reflects the idea of 'born to be together' and two people growing up together falling in love as well as them writing the 'are we friends or are we something more?' song...so Pat must be wondering how Pran felt and still feels now.
Pat's freshy day outfit!
I must have known this already but can't remember if I've written about it before when I've talked about this shirt, but the word 'pineapple' is written in both red and blue on Pat's shirt.
Oh the hurt in Pran's eyes when Pat says the song is lousy.
'silly' ... 😭
PRAN THE WARRIOOOOOOR!
And we're back to Cloaked Emotions. This time Pran is forcing Pat to stay quiet.
You know how the production team created the condensed milk tube...well I wonder if they put a rose on it because that's the usual flower people give as gifts to those they like...and Pat bought it as a gift for Pran...effectively buying him a rose. But maybe this has already been pointed out.
"IT WAS DEPRESSINGLY LONELY FOR ME" 😭😭😭
Pat's tear...😭 Then Pran's tear...😭 (and mine of course)
Oh god, the way they both move towards each other...
THE MUSIC when their lips touched...
It's the way we all thought the ep, the show, had reach its peak at that short first kiss because the music hit a crescendo and BECAUSE THEY HAD KISSED already in ep 5...but then not 10 seconds after their lips had parted the show absolutely DECIMATED us with that epic second kiss. Pran pulling Pat in, the hand on the neck, Pat's first hand gripping the back of Pran's head, the gasped inhales as they shifted their heads, Pat's second hand joining his first, the increase in speed, Pran's second hand also going to Pat's neck, the symmetry of it, the MUSIC, the way Pat hunched into his shoulders to devour Pran's mouth, and the slow pull away as the music tailed off...
Pat's smile and breath of relief
Pran's devastation
The rain
Pat's tear-filled eyes
Baseball mom
The prolonged black screen at the end as the music ended...
The way I was never the same again.
This ep has such special memories for me, not only because of the show and what it did to me but because of where I was when I watched it. I've since sold and moved from the apartment I was living in at the time and I treasure the memory of settling into my sofa with a blanket over my legs, a warm cup of tea and something sweet to eat, the light slowly dimming to black outside even though it was only 15:30 (it was end of november and I lived in Sweden), and then the euphoria when I realised this silly little Thai romcom bl was doing something different. Ep 5 part 4 not only changed me in many ways but it changed the way we watch bls now. We have higher expectations - a bar has been raised - and I'm seeing where shows are reaching for it. Last December, I watched the GMMTV Live for the first time because I caught some people talking about it on tumblr (I didn't know anything about it before even though I'd been watching Thai bl for a year). Now, I'm ridiculously excited about seeing it this year, to see what we may be in store for next year. Hopefully they will build on Bad Buddy, Vice Versa, The Eclipse, and others. And I know there are other production companies and I'm also excited to see what they do too...and for all the gl coming out... But back to Bad Buddy ep 5 and it was this ep that finally brought me to make this blog because I needed a way to process what I was watching - and to scream about it with others. I had never analysed a piece of media in this way before this show and I've since continued with many others. This is who I am now. This is part of what I mean by Bad Buddy changing me. And I'm thankful for it, and for Aof, Nanon, and Ohm, and for all the people who I've interacted with on here about it. There is something exceedingly special about this show and I wish I could adequately express it to the whole world but I also want to keep it for me, and for us, to treasure always.
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social-media-shy · 1 year
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Bad Buddy Rewatch - Episode 5 - Freshy Day Concert
I think the freshy day music concert scene is really underrated.
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Through the first half of the episode, we see Pat struggling with trying to understand and sort through his feelings for Pran and Ink. The moment when he is reminiscing about writing "Just Friend?" with Pran is when we see him wonder not just about his feelings for Pran, but about the relationship between the two of them. Pran's dialogue about hesitation, insecurity and excitement directly speaks to Pat's actions at the end of the episode.
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During the actual concert, Pat is initially happy to hear Pran perform "Just Friend?" (and excited to see Pran perform in general, clapping for him - showing again that Pat doesn't actually care about winning with Pran), especially when Pran acknowledges it as a song he wrote with a friend, acknowledges Pat as a friend. He is thinking about the time they composed the song together, and Pran looking at him as he sang the song at the christmas concert. Almost like Pat might not be alone in his feelings, and there is something there that both of them share. Listening to the song as it was meant to be heard and understood, probably for the first time. Only then to find Pran looking at Wai as he sings. He is wondering if Pran has moved on, if Pat has been replaced in his life. Pran is singing the song, not just singing it, but finishing it with Wai. Something they never got to do together, something that wasn't an option for them. Performing the song with Pat got Pran sent to boarding school, while performing it with Wai got him applause, appreciation and the Freshy music concert win. What does this say about their relationship? Or about Pat's place in Pran's life?
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While from Pran's point of view, he is singing this for Pat. This song will always be for Pat. He is nervous to be singing this song again, especially in front of Pat. I wonder if he would have said something to Pat, if they hadn't been interrupted by Wai before the concert. Before he starts singing, he looks right at Pat when he says "I hope you like it." This is his way of putting himself out there even after the heartbreak of episode 4, only to see Pat walk away at the end of the performance. Leaving Pran feeling hopeless and rejected, again. But here we can also see a bit of worry, a bit of Pran wondering what's going on with Pat. He has gotten used to Pat being oblivious to his feelings and any signs that Pran might like Pat. But Pat walking away is different and he doesn't yet know why.
And all of this is communicated with little to no dialogue. Really, so beautifully done, perfectly setting things up for the fight between Pat, Pran and Wai and the rooftop.
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Happy not Bad Buddy Friday guys!
So a long time ago (read: the night immediately following episode 5 when I did not sleep at all) I wrote a song for Pran. I do not write songs, I can only blame the insanity of episode 5 4/4 for this, but I hope you guys enjoy it.
How Can I Say No to That?
This shouldn’t be happening, this dream that I’m in Yet you’re standing before me with tears on your chin. And you say that you missed me, the years I was gone and then ask me for something so beyond what we’ve got
And how can I say no to that?
And I still remember the first day I saw you reaching your hand out though they taught us not to
You were there always no matter where I turned; started as hatred but became something that burned
Now you’re here on this rooftop, my heart in your hands and I still can’t quite trust this, so I try to pretend that I’m in control here, that I’m not a mess as you lean in towards me and take that first kiss
And how can I say no to that?
And I still remember the first day I saw you reaching your hand out though they taught us not to
You were there always no matter where I turned; started as hatred but became something that burned
And so I think to myself, I’ll just take what I can but I guess I don’t expect the touch of your hand your fingers so gentle as they cradle my head that you’re practically shouting, though nothing is said
And how can I say no to that?
And I’ll always remember your hands in my hair, the tears on my cheeks, the moment I didn’t care
Though after was painful as reality returned for one bright, shining moment together, we just burned
And how could I say no to that? And how could I say no to that?
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veorulfr · 2 years
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Cutie Pie episode 9 gave me major Bad Buddy episode 5 flashbacks because of this track T^T
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kit-teung · 4 months
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it was so depressingly lonely for me
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inventedfangirling · 7 months
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10 Million trips to the rooftop YALLL!!!
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DESERVED.
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respectthepetty · 10 months
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This BL Bracket for Best Kiss is the toughest because every kiss is solid and great.
But if Pat and Pran's episode 5 rooftop kiss doesn't win it all when
It started as an apology for a fight
It ended the best episode of the series which was a masterpiece from beginning to end
It had the softest "no" ever whispered on my screen
It featured the "Baseball Mom" shirt
It was really TWO kisses
And both were PERFECT!
I will be the saddest duck on your dash.
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Don't break Pat's heart again.
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jemmo · 1 year
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“i never know what to think about, so i think about you” - the 1975
bad buddy week: day 2  favourite episode - ep 11
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telomeke-bbs · 1 year
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BAD BUDDY EPISODE 5 – THAT MOMENT BEFORE THE SECOND KISS
I know it's been analyzed and commented upon a thousand times before but I'm backsliding and rewatching, so–
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By Ep.5 [4/4] we had already known on an intellectual level that Pran had been pining for Pat for years. We got to see some of his POV, and shared in his heartbreak, with all the flashbacks of him watching Pat and Ink's affectionate moments in high school as well as in the present day (especially of Ink buying Pat the less sweet/still sweet iced milk tea in Hokkaido Coffee, at Ep.4 [2/4] 0.21).
But what BBS did in Ep.5 was to carry us along on Pat's journey of realizing he'd fallen for Pran, so that by the end of Ep.5 [4/4] the full weight of these mutual emotions was ever-present, soaking into every wretched look they gave each other on the rooftop. And in watching Pat stumble into the full onslaught of his feelings, we were pulled along into the awareness of how much it had to be counterbalanced by Pran's emotions too, suppressed within him for so long.
The biggest emotional slap for me on this rewatch isn't the first, tentative kiss that Pat lands, even though it's the culmination of his realization that he's fallen – hard – for Pran.
It isn't the second kiss, even though it reverberated around the world when this episode aired. It isn't even the moment Pran wrenches himself away and abandons Pat alone with his feelings, just as Pran himself was wrenched away, alone with his feelings, all those years ago too.
The moment that really slaps is the little pause before the second kiss, even though by now we know it's coming. Pat isn't sure how Pran is going to react – yes, there's that – but it's Pran who's holding the weight of this moment in his hands.
You can see him trying to balance out all the roiling emotions within himself with the sensible logic he's known for; he'd convinced himself it was all meaningless, that Ink had easily and clearly supplanted him, that there was no hope of a romantic future for him and Pat.
But he'd held this secret, burning love within himself for so long, bore the terrible yearning alone, and by then had had all hopes of a moment like this one, alone with Pat on the rooftop, crushed time and time again. And yet here was Pat, offering himself to him – honest, bare and vulnerable.
All he'd ever wanted for so long. But at the same time all wrong, impossible, will only end in tragedy.
"Things don't end well whenever I'm close to you" ringing in his head (Ep.1 [4/4] 3.28, Ep.2 [3I4] 9.01).
It's the age-old dilemma of head-versus-heart.
And for once, just once, Pran cedes a little. The king of self-denial decides that after years of desolate pining he'll throw it all to the wind and allow himself – not quite a moment of happiness – but the illusion of happiness, for he could never take Ink's place now then, could he? But he could experience what a tender, passionate moment with the love of his life would feel like, if only for a moment where he could just pretend that it was real and that there was hope for a future of them together.
So he goes in a second time, reaching out to pull Pat in, no holds barred, giving it his all. Because for Pran in this moment, this IS all there is. He cannot see it going anywhere beyond this rooftop assignation, but he takes it anyway because it's all he'll ever have of his beloved Pat, in the way that he wants.
And when he pulls away sobbing, he weeps in part because he knows that it's over, that it can never be anything more, and that he can never have anything more.
I weep along, as a lot of us do, because we know the bittersweet tragedy of having loved once, known its intimacy, and then being cast back into the despair of believing we'll never, ever have it in our lives again.
Thank God Pat never gave up on Pran. And to all who might be despairing, give yourself a second chance. Sometimes it's not all you've convinced yourself it will be.
Pran's moment of shattering grief here also tells us it's OK to give in and think of yourself from time to time, even if you're used to putting yourself last, denying your own happiness. You deserve it, even if you don't think so. And even if the happiness is only illusory or fleeting, who's to say there's not more of the real thing waiting for you the next time around, if you just give it a try? 💖
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j-miki · 2 years
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fiercynn · 8 months
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so @manogirl, @inventedfangirling, and @sharingfandoms all tagged me in the thai ql favorites tag game (thanks friends!), and i wasn't sure if i had enough to say about shows other than bad buddy to do it, but i figure you can't ever talk about bbs too much amirite
favorite thai ql: yeah so it's bad buddy, surprise surprise. i watched it all in the course of like 36 hours in february 2022, not long after it had ended, and it has been thoroughly stuck in my soul ever since. i've watched it so many times and in so many pieces that i couldn't even guess at a number. i've posted...uh...200k words of bad buddy fic in the past year and half? the obsession is real. it's just such a perfect mix of antagonistic and silly and tense and sweet and heartbreaking and healing that i keep going back to it over over. i love its narrative arc, and i love its little details, and i love all the ways we get to keep reinterpreting it over and over in fanworks. and i love the people i've met in the fandom, which is really hard to separate from the show! i've made really close and awesome friends here, which seems extremely fitting tbh. so yeah anyway i like that show a lot
favorite pairing: seems obvious given my previous answer, but patpran, followed closely by inkpa! idk i just think they're both neat and extremely in love
most underrated actor: JENNIE PANHAN I NEED HER IN EVERYTHING OKAY
favorite character: parakul siridechawat. he's just so in love you guys, even when (he thinks) it's hopeless. i love a character who pines. my sexuality is pining actually and pran's might be too (jk i love pran for many many many reasons but this is the one i felt like talking about today)
favorite side character: i think it has to be a tie between mae from 3wbf and longtae from a tale of thousand stars...two very different characters! i love mae in all her complexity, her efforts to be good and kind and empathetic that are interrupted by the death of the one person who was good and kind and empathetic towards her, and her search for revenge once he's gone, and then her ultimate realization that she needs to stop the cycle of violence even if it takes one more act of violence herself. meanwhile i love longtae because he is sweet and funny and adorable and such a good friend to literally everyone in pha phun dao and also it's khao, how could i not?
favorite scene in a ql: so if i type the letter "y" in my browser, the first search result is the youtube link to bad buddy episode 5 part 4/4. does that answer your question
favorite line in a ql: i thought i was going to struggle with this one but it came to me instantly: uncle tong from bad buddy saying, "you might think one man can't change the world. but i want you to know that this world can't change someone like me either." have i mentioned i am both queer and work in climate activism for a living
most anticipated ql (& why): 23.5 degrees the series!!!! i was already one million percent there for milklove but the recent confirmation of viewjune is just like the icingest of icing on the cake. i'm so fucking stoked you guys
i'm sorry i'm not going to answer the question on guilty pleasure series because like @manogirl i do not believe in the concept, nor the ones on healthiest vs. toxic relationships because i simply do not feel like it <3
most underrated series: hmm, most of the thai ql series i've seen are too well-known/watched to count for this. like would we call gap the series underrated? probably not, right? maybe...triage? but i personally felt like triage got pretty uneven in the second half...idk this is the problem with having mostly stuck to gmmtv huh
i really have not kept good track of who has done this meme already so ummmm @citystoryscapes @mahuhumaling @melto @mousieta @incandescentflower @galauvant @dancing-out-in-space
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dribs-and-drabbles · 2 years
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Pat and Pran's legacy...
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...only they're not succeeding as well...
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They should have studied BAD BUDDY SERIES แค่เพื่อนครับเพื่อน | EP.5 [4/4] a little better...
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movementsofmylife · 2 years
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ok so it's literally been months and i should most definitely not still be analyzing every scene in this show but!!!!
Pran definitely made the breakfast on the counter for Pat. i'm sure someone else noticed this too, but in his morning routine the episode before we only see him eating toast, none of this sausage vegetable egg situation on the table. and!! he's making toast for himself. and then when pat steals it, he sassily eats one of the sausages, in like a, you eat mine i eat yours (lmao) way. so this entire fight about not making food for him is just Pran straight up lying (badly) and it's both incredible and obvious and clearly Pat knows it too and yeah. I don't have anything else to say except that I love them and this show and scenes like this are the reason why.
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