#black butler double charles

[janus-cadet]

Guys, guys, I've got the opportunity to do another collab' with my fav artist ever, @mimmixerenard !! And this one, well, it's about the Double Charles, from Black Butler.

See, whenever we write something together, those guys always seems to pop at one point or another, a special cameo. Modern Setting, Star Trek, Leijiverse... everywhere. And so, we kinda picture what would happen if we put them in a sort of Sandman setting, as dreams or nightmares. Therefore, that concept was born.

But first, the drawing.

(I'm absolutely in love with @mimmixerenard's part of the drawing. Look at that, how fluid Grey's movement is. Please, please, if you see this post, please consider going to check their profile, you'll be amazed. It's a garantee.)

So, in this, Grey is a Dream, always appearing quite feral and menacing to the dreamer ; meanwhile, Phipps is a Nightmare, always appearing calm and kind. Both of them work in tandem, enjoying to confuse the dreamer about their true nature. Before each dream, they have an over-the-top fight to decide if the dreamer will have a Pleasant Dream or a Nightmare ; of course, they can't hurt each other for real, but sure as hell enjoy pretend otherwise.

(Look at that, the proportion are so neat on Grey, and the clothes design-)

And sooo... yep, this drawing is born. It was fantastic to work with them. Thank you again, my friend, and keep on being absolutely amazing. You deserve the praises.

Hope you'll all like it, for how weird and seemingly random it can be!

[grey-and-stuff]

A little throwback haha

I did this two years ago. Enjoy

[zixinwonderland]

Posting Black Butler facts once a day until season 4 is released!

Double Charles are Weston Alumni!

7 more days!

[kanarrrii]

Vogue exclusive 🎩🖤🎩

[grelle-sutcliff-propaganda]

[sebastianthemadlad]

Who do you think will die in future chapters of Black Butler?

I know I've already made a similar post theorising over how Black Butler will end but I'm very interested in Black Butler fan theories at the moment.

I'm gonna be explaining who I think will die in the future and why, some may have more detailed explanations than others since sometimes I just have hunches a character will die and sometimes I have better reasons to think so and I may also go into how I think they will die.

(warning: spoilers for a lot of the story)

1. Elizabeth Midford

There are 2 main reasons I think Lizzy will die, 1 is that I just have a hunch, Lizzy is a sweet girl but we've seen that no matter how sweet you are in the Black Butler universe there is a huge chance you will die (cough cough Agni).

And also there is a bit of foreshadowing in episode 6 (I think) of Book Of Circus. During one of fake Ciel's monologue flashbacks it shows him sitting on top of a throne with dead bodies of familiar characters beneath him. Most of the characters are characters who had already died before then such as Madame Red and Vincent, but when rewatching that scene I realised Lizzy was there as well. Could that be foreshadowing Lizzy will die in the future?

Maybe the next time she sees the fake Ciel he'll try to kill her as revenge for basically pretending to be the real Ciel, therefore Sebastian will have to come in and protect him, maybe even killing Lizzy or the least severely injuring her (and after that Undertaker could turn her into a bizarre doll or something)

2. Soma

This is definitely more of a hunch than evidence. Soma hasn't been in the manga in almost 100 chapters and we haven't seen him since 2017, the last time we saw him he was grieving over Agni's death.

I'm pretty sure he'll come back since it's not really like Yana Toboso to write off a character and never bring them back unless they canonically died or something, we've seen characters not appear for a while and then return (like majority of the grim reapers, Fred Abberline, sometimes even the servants like Meyrin, Finny and Bard if the current arc doesn't focus on them much and more on other characters like Ciel and Sebastian)

If he does come back I have a feeling he may die, I'm not really sure how though, like maybe he'll mistake Real Ciel for Fake Ciel and will be like "wait a moment why isn't Ciel wearing his eyepatch?" Or something like that and real Ciel will assassinate him to avoid suspicion.

Speaking of Real and Fake Ciel, I wonder how Soma would react if he found out all about that. I mean him and Fake Ciel are basically best friends, would he feel betrayed? Or if Fake Ciel explained why he did it would he forgive him?

3. John Brown, Charles Phipps and Grey

Sorry for including 3 characters in one, it's because these 3 are a trio and I feel like they'll all die for the same reasons.

So, if you haven't noticed or haven't watched the non canon parts of the black butler S1 anime, there are a lot of hints to what happens in the future of the manga despite most of the anime being released prior to those events.

Examples: an animal based servant (in the anime it was Pluto, a dog man and in the manga/canon parts it was Snake, who looks like a snake and can talk to snakes), the servants backstories (while some changes were made in the anime, all of the backstories were mostly the same, Meyrin was an assassin, Finny was an experiment and Bard was a soldier in a brutal war) and Undertaker being revealed to be a grim reaper

Due to all of this I have a theory that John, Phipps and Grey are all angels. Why? Well in the anime Queen Victoria had a servant dressed in white named Ash who was later revealed to be an angel and was the main villain of season 1.

What does Ash have in common with John, Phipps and Grey? They all wear white and they all work for the Queen, they also started out as characters you probably think weren't as important to the story but then later became antagonists.

It also gives Charles Grey more of a reason to stab Sebastian in the murder mystery arc, maybe the whole time he knew Sebastian was a demon? And maybe that's why he wasn't so suspicious when he found Sebastian was alive on the Campania.

I've also sensed that both Grey and Phipps had a bit of a grudge towards Ciel and Sebastian. At first I thought it was because of what happened in the circus arc (which is why the whole murder mystery arc happened), but even after Ciel proved himself they both continued to be a bit iffy around them... Again could this be because they know Sebastian is a demon?

Ash died at the end of season 1 after his evil plot to purify the world by setting London on fire (yeah I don't know why either season 1 had a lot of plot holes) since John, Grey and Phipps are all possible alternative versions of Ash I'm about 90% sure they'll also be killed by Sebastian.

4. Queen Victoria

Sort of the same reason behind why I think John, Phipps and Grey will die, except for this one I have less evidence.

Unlike in the anime, there hasn't been very much foreshadowing that Queen Victoria has made a contract with her 3 angelic servants or even knows they may be angels. However near the end of season 1 in the anime, Ash kills her because she became impure since she didn't want to be cleansed after the part of her body that was Albert began to rot.

I'm not sure if that'll be the reason for her death in the manga since unlike the anime her grief over Albert is usually played for comedic affect (like when John Brown used a doll of Albert to cheer Victoria up) but maybe there will be another reason. If she doesn't know her servants are angels but later finds out, they may kill her. Or maybe she'll just be killed by Ciel and Sebastian for some reason.

5. Real Ciel

I think the majority of us theorize he will die, he's a bizarre doll after all and almost every bizarre doll in the story has been killed, also he's sort of one of the main antagonists now after he exposed Fake Ciel for pretending to be him after death.

Again I'm not sure how he'll die exactly, but I'm about 90% sure he will die

[ereyzabethbathory]

[abybweisse]

Hello! Hope you're having a nice day. I just wanted to ask something about Charles phipps because it's been one of my shower thoughts lol. So we know Charles grey is an earl right? How about Charles Phipps? I don't think there's a mention of his peerage title or anything. He's only called by 'sir' and if he was from a noble family afaik he would be called 'Lord'. Is it possible that he's not from a noble family? No one mentioned he was an earl or anything. It doesn't seem like he's the son of a noble either. Just very curious about this miniscule detail. '

Is Phipps a noble?

We must assume that Charles Phipps is in the nobility. And here's why: generally speaking, any high-ranking servant of the queen is going to be of high birth. Even the queen's chambermaids or ladies-in-waiting are in the peerage. Victoria even calls him Phipps, which places him higher than he would have been if she'd called him Charles.

Charles Grey becomes earl when his father dies, which occurs during the manga series. Idk Phipps' rank, but I suspect he might be even higher than an earl. However, if his father is still alive, he won't have the title just yet. He'd just be Lord Phipps... but the queen doesn't have to call him by that, and she definitely seems comfortable enough skipping the formality.

I have not noticed him being called sir, but if that's true, then he's knighted. And I'd believe it.

Anyway, that link also mentions how the court is filled by nepotism. Grey and Phipps likely got their positions because of their noble parents. They had to train, of course, and they must have various skills already, but they would have been selected among the sons of noble families.

[0the-duchess0]

Okay so since Black Butler is like the Octavius to my Roman Empire, here are some random, sleep-deprived thoughts I had on it today, wether they make sense or not (spoiler alert!):

Maybe the reason behind Sebastian's human face lies a little closer to Ciel than the whole "It's Vincent's face" theory. What if it was the twin's faces growing up? I mean he is a sort of the replacement for the R!Ciel since his soul was sacrificed to summon him, and he will take O!Ciel's soul as soon as the contract is done, making it highly unlikely that either of them will reach adulthood. It might be a way to show what could have been.

If O!Ciel holds on to the ring, and it has been stated by both their father and R!Ciel that the ring is a sign of the heirloom of the Phantomhive earldom, couldn't it have been used as prove that O!Ciel is the rightful heir now in some way?

Sebastian is depicted with many different heads and powers in both his true and disguised forme. Then does he truly have a "real" forme we humans can preceive? Or are all the animal heads, multiple eyes and boots just part of the illusions he can create and is he no more than a "cloud" of black smoke/goop (at least to us)?

Did O!Ciel see a bit of himself in Finny since he wasn't able to go outside that much during his childhood because of his asthma?

Would Snake have told the other servants about his act in the circus? And if so, would have performed it for them sometime on request?

The average age to get wed in the mid to late 19th century was allegedly 22 for women and 26 for men. Neither Double Charles nor Edward, whom all appear to be close to that age, seem to have a fiancée, despite their status playing a role. What would cause them to fall outside of the average?

[eemoo1o-animoo]

What if Grey and Phipps were the Soma and Agni to Claude and Alois’ Sebastian and Ciel?

[magicalara]

I want more double charles content in the world

Charles Grey and Charles Phipps are amazing and I crave more content for them so please anyone who sees this please do something, anything with them

[plague-of-insomnia]

Grey: Randomly attacks Bard and Mey for no reason, kills Sebastian in cold blood, then stomps on his “corpse”

Phipps: “attacks” Finny with a needle and thread to patch the hole in his hat. Also he’s tall

I think we know which of the Charles’ is better.

[grey-and-stuff]

What's this?! 👁️👄👁️   

   

A Grey x Trisha drawing? 😂   

Managed to finish this on time for my birthday! And as well as for my birthday twin 🤍🤍🤍 (She requested it a while back, and I finally finished it 🤭) so happy birthday to us! 💖💖💖   

   

I still love my Earl Grey and I hope to see him in the new Black Butler season next year!    

   

[anime093se]

[black-butler-confessions]

I actually have a question for everyone what the hell was the actual point of the manor murder arc? did I miss something? like literally nothing happened that progressed the story it was just confusing and fun for the sake of it

I guess it introduced double charles and the queen's doubts about ciel but jesus still

not that im complaining its a banger but its like canon filler

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[tinykuroshitsujipics]