#bramblesquirrel au

[doritopaw101]

I really like the au idea of Sparkpelt and Alderheart being FireSand kittens.

Like Sandstorm finding out she’s pregnant after the great battle.

Her reflecting on the bitter irony, she wanted more kittens with her mate, but not like this.

Squirrelflight and Leafpool basically kinda hover over their mother cuz she’s old and just like them still in grief. Daisy is great help.

Add more pressure on Sparkpelt’s shoulders :)

[sillspore]

Now that brambleclaw and squirrelflight aren't mates, how would Alderheart and Sparkpelt being born? Most AUs (not saying those aus are bad) just have Bramblestar as a nothing character either as a villain with no personality or forgettable, with the personlity of wheat bread "man wife"

A lot of Bramnleclaw's character in/is about Squirrelflight and their love triangle with Ashfur. I can't really see (again no offense to you. Just airing my thoughts) as him being nothing character, if he isn't her mate than how would TBC happen or would that series never happen because Ashfur or Brambleclaw aren't mates with Squirrelflight. How would plotpointd such as his relationship with firestar would become? It would be jus them as adoptive siblings?

beware, this shit is long! soooo much more under the cut.

i’ve been thinking about this! basically, squilf would replace leafpool in the forbidden romance plot with crowfeather. during tpb, all of squilf’s romance will be with crowfeather. we get his pov during the journey, where he will be close with feathertail but crushing on squirrelpaw. we get squilf’s pov when they get home, where we can hear her internal debates over her feelings about crowpaw and missing him. she is attached to brambleshade (brambleclaw), but in a sibling way. in my head, firestar is a pseudo-dad to bramble, so a sibling dynamic makes sense. however, this isn’t reciprocated the same way. bramble grows to be in love with squirrelflight.

in twilight, squirrel and crow debate leaving, but decide against it and amicably agree to split. at the same time, leafpool is having the same issue with mothwing — mothwing cares little about the warrior code, and would much rather leave the clans and live their lives in peace, with a bonus of the fact that hawkfrost would never follow her and she’d be free of him. they run away, but come back just in time, like the leafcrow romance in canon.

as a note, because tc doesn’t share borders with rc, they had no idea it was mothwing that leafpool ran away with.

afterward, in sunset, squirrelflight grows closer to bramble and ashfur is scorned, much like in canon. she realizes he assumes she’s in love with bramble, and she lets this happen to dissuade him from trying to “win” her back. she feels safe doing this, because she assumes her sibling feelings towards bramble are the same from his side.

(note: squilf did date ashfur while she was arguing with bramble, but at first it was just friendship. she thought he’d make a great mate, and she could forget about crowfeather and maybe even have kits. but as he grows more controlling, she breaks up with him. soon after, she reconciles with bramble and ashfur takes this as badly as possible.)

after the whole saving her dad thing, squirrelflight is delighted. (side note again: bramble does become deputy, because longtail retires early. longstar would be too good of a leader, we need a shit one, for plot reasons.) bramble is delighted, because he thinks this means she loves him “again”. leafpool had no idea about the crowfeather thing, and tells squilf about the dream starclan sent of squilf and bramble walking side by side. squilf takes this to mean starclan wants her and bramble as mates (they absolutely do, the meddling weirdos), but with the way she feels about him? she isn’t fond of the idea. however, at the book’s end, leafpool tells her she’s pregnant. squilf knows exactly who’s they are — and she is both petrified and delighted. it’s complicated situation, she’s so overjoyed to have her love’s kits, but he will never know them and the clan will be suspicious. everyone knows she was courting ashfur but spends all her time with bramble now, so they’ll assume it’s one of theirs. so will the two cats in question. if she refuses to say who, it’ll be very obvious their father is not thunderclan. she tells this much to leafpool, who advises her to follow starclan’s wish and become bramble’s mate, for real. squilf tries to convince herself this will be okay, because it’s what starclan wants.

later, leafpool tells her she’s carrying mothwing’s kits, and they (TOGETHER) devise the plan to have squilf raise them, which will be easy because she’ll actually have milk here. bramble is over the moon at the news of kits, and squilf is dying inside. it’d be a depressing inner monologue, her trying to convince herself she can be happy like this.

leafpool fakes a starclan vision, saying squirrelflight must visit the moonpool immediately, for plot reasons. squilf gives birth up there, and crow stumbles upon them. there’s a unique herb growing in the cave that he was sent to retrieve for his “mate” (they’ve come to an agreement: crow takes night as his mate to look loyal, and the kits she has won’t appear as if they were fathered by a rogue, like they actually were), nightcloud, who’s about to give birth. he sees squilf’s kits, they get emotional and sappy. there’s two kits, unnamed. together, they name them hollykit and breezekit, and crow takes breezekit (the one out of rhe two without red on him) back to wc to be raised by nightcloud with her kits. he’ll blend right in with the litter.

a few hours later, leafpool gives birth to jaykit, lionkit (still haven’t decided his name change), and dovekit. after another day, a tc patrol comes to get them, wondering what took them so long, surprised to find squirrelflight’s four kits! they carry ‘em home, and squilf settles in the nursery, fussed over by brambleshade. about a week later, dovekit dies, and squilf is heartbroken. she grows listless and finds it hard to take care of her remaining kits, but later recovers and is a great mom.

power of three goes pretty close to canon, major plot wise. hollyleaf is not a member of the three, but it makes SENSE bc she wasn’t actuallt part of the three’s litter. dovekit was, who was later reincarnated into whitewing’s kit, dovekit, in order for the prophecy to be fulfilled. for the fire scene, it goes the same mostly, squilf claiming they aren’t her kits, ashfur says idc you love them anyway. i think i may have firestar save them from ashfur here, losing his final life. after the fire, squilf admits that hollyleaf is her kit, but the other two aren’t. hollyleaf pries the whole story out of leafpool, and goes STRAIGHT to brambleshade, before he goes to receive his nine lives. he thanks her for telling him, and he is heartbroken (because, apparently, his wife never loved him.) and furious. none of his kits were his, some of them were even leafpool’s! after he’s made bramblestar, he appoints hollyleaf as his deputy, citing that she’s the only one he can trust. things go to shit, sol, hollyleaf snaps and kills ashfur, hollyleaf tells the clans everything, including the prophecy, etc etc. hollyleaf dies, killed by the falling rocks in the tunnels. her role in the great battle stays the same, as does firestar’s, bc their ghosts can still kick ass.

after this, during omen of the stars, we see bramble actively punishing squirrelflight. everything is shit. i don’t know who i’ll have him pick as deputy, but they’ll die during the flood of bramblestar’s storm. jessy happens, etc etc, squilf and him make up. she apologizes, and he apologizes, but he kinda makes it about him, hmmm….

anyway, spark and alder are bramblesquirrel kits still. i haven’t thought about major plot for avos yet, i’ve barely thought about pot and oots. but, squilf is made deputy, and the broken code is a thing. bramblestar is freed of rhe possession, but there will be a scene where squirrelcrow have a Moment and bramblestar loses his shit. he accuses her of betraying him, of being cruel and evil, yada yada. brambleshade is a little weird, maybe kinda vindictive, but bramblestar is out of his mind. the sheer amount of power he has and his desire to use it against her is dangerous. he is very clearly an evil person, despite the sympathies he has. anyway, bramblestar tries to exile her, but spark stops him. she, and the clan, are OVER bramblestar, who was just as bad a leader as the imposter. he is stripped of his name and lives via rhe new warrior code rule, and the clan watches in horror as he loses all but his last life in real time. he’s moved to the medicine den. meanwhile, squilf becomes a star, and appoints ivyclaw (ivypool) her deputy. she gives brambleshade the option of leaving the clan or retiring, and he hobbles his old ass to the elder’s den.

after all this, crowfeather decides to join thunderclan, and squirrelstar happily accepts him, daring anyone to argue. they get their happily ever after, and it’s very sweet. maybe breeze even comes with his dad, tired of his clan’s scorn? regardless, it’s a very awkward time for nightheart watching his grandad spit obscenities at his step-grandad. wild.

pls tell me if this is incoherent ive never written my ideas out for the squirrelcrow bramblesquirrel plot before !!!

[cryptidclaw]

About Squirrel/Bramble again...

Ok I know that I have been trying to make Squirrel/Bramble work in RoC but the longer I think about it the more I just dont want them to be together...

I feel like it would just make more since that they would have more of a sibling dynamic! Firestar serves as a father figure to Bramble, and Im pretty sure Bramble would have been a full adult warrior by the time Squirrel was born. I really cant imagine him not interacting much with Squirrel as a kit, since, like i said, Fire is a father to him, and Bramble would want to spend time with Fire’s new kits. So I think logically Bramble would have been more like a big brother to Squirrel and Leaf. 

Squirrel and Bramble’s relationship in early TNP can easily be read as, older brother and his annoying 13 yr old sister who he has to put up with. Which its cute to think of their relationship that way! I just think it would be more fun to have them be a silly sibling relationship, it makes me like them more than having them be a couple.

I also feel like my RoC version of Bramble where has desperate for a sibling relationship, leading him to hanging out with Hawk could still work. Squirrel is younger than Bramble, and she’s not biologically his sister, so she cant relate to his issues with being Tigerstar’s kit, instead she has it quite the opposite being Firestar’s kit. So I could see Bramble being desperate for a relationship with Hawk who can relate to him on a level that Squirrel cant. 

I think a lot of angst could come from that too, maybe Squirrel gets mad at Bramble because she feels like he’s ignoring their sibling relationship for a bio sibling. “Why are you choosing him over me? I’m the one who you grew up with! you don’t even know him!” -Squirrelflight

The main reason I wanted to have them be together still is it plays a somewhat big role in Po3 but honestly I don't care abt that too much anymore. Since I added that cats can have kits with loners, as long as its not out of love, Squirrel could just claim that the 3 are hers with a loner. It could even add more to Ashfur’s motivations since she broke up with him and actively chose to have kits with a loner rather than choosing to be with him and have a family with him! 

[notwarriorswiki]

An extremely messy draft of moving the births around for the 1st arc. Subject to change.

The number is the relation of moons in comparison to the birth of Firestar. For instance, Cinderpelt is 7 moons younger than Firestar, changed to be born a moon after he joins ThunderClan.

Some cats have notes of their planned mentor. For instance the four starting Thunder apprentices (Fire, Sand, Gray, Dust) all receive the major four litter (Cinder, Bright, Bracken, Thorn).

[bunnyburrowsys]

art rahhhhhhh ; potential eyestrain

a bunch of our II/III au doodles :D

bramble and squilf with less eye strain colors

and with eye strain colors

and something i drew with our mommyclan oc: thighhighpaw! (free palestine btw)

well, thats it! i'm gonna go to eep now!!!

and remember, our art is free to use with the proper credit (tag us!)

~ FizzieRollie \ Introject \ She/He/It/Paw/Pup

[songjay-ay]

miau X3

[bayofwolves]

au where sandstorm is the daughter of tigerstar and goldenflower. imagine the drama!

her littermate would be swiftpaw, who gets to live quite a while longer but is still killed by tigerstar in the end. he and sandstorm would be like, slightly older than fireheart. enough for them to lord it over him in their apprentice days.

what if swift replaced dustpelt(paw) as the second Firepaw Bully..? ya i think that could be sick. goodbye dustpelt.

poor firepaw :( being tormented by the evil children of your arch nemesis. and then worse, falling in love with one of them. ooouuh the drama would be too good to pass up.

i might try to write something along these lines, if only to show off my design for swiftpaw in my head: he's a calico! (mostly black and white, tuxedo pattern, but with some ginger on the face. kinda like spottedleaf in the og ultimate guide!) thunderclan's first emo trans cat.

[burning-thistles-bt]

I JUST THOUGHT OF A VERY INTERESTING THING

Since they're closer in age, what Bramble starts catching feelings for Red, Sweet or Spot? also perhaps even Snow 👀

and may i suggest Squilf and Crow👉🏻👈🏻

we've confirmed BrambleSquirrel as the endship but i suppose him catching feelings isnt out of the equation! ;P specially for his bestie

and SquilfCrowf is so cute!!!! i love that ship

but yeah its not BT endgoal rn ;(

[transparenthologramrebel]

One last kiss I love you like a broken pot One last kiss I love you like a pack of dogs One last kiss I need you like I need a gaping head wound One last kiss I love you like an alcoholic One last kiss I love you like a negligee One last kiss I need you like I need a broken leg - The Taxpayers

So this was originally was going to be the normal fire scene, but then I started thinking about Ashes and Ashfur turned into Brambleclaw. I guess this also a remake of the art I made like a year ago.  I put her three kits she adopted from Leafpool in and I aged them up a bit so they’re around apprentice age. I’m pretty proud of the background. I might take it and use to create the normal fire scene later. 

Ashes belongs to @mallowstep

[maplemouse-warriors]

In the Good Timeline AU (better AU name in the works), Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw have a full litter because they deserve it! The Good Timeline arc after Omen of the Stars centers on the five of them and how the Clans are changing after all of the nonsense that’s just happened.

[guerrastrife]

Soo about my TNP rewrite AU I have 2 options

Bramble is still a -paw when Squirrel borns, becoming a warrior when she becomes an apprentice, Dustpelt letting him being like a second mentor to her to train as a mentor and when the prophecy was showed and Squirrel joins the gang, he's so protective to her well he feels it's his responsibility and then they fell in love

Or

2- Bramble has the canon age, he becomes the mate of Ferncloud (I love that ship) and the reason he doesn't want to leave his territory it's because his kits, Squirrel being like the daughter he needs to care for missing his kits. (Spiderkit and Shrewpaw are half-brothers of Squirrel, being the two toms sons of Dustpelt and Lead and Squirrel daughter's of Fire) (yeah, sand dust and fire have a poly ship)

Being objective the best AU is the 2 but I love Bramblesquirrel and I wish they were good mates each to other (especially Bramble...) *sigh*

[thylacid]

more of my avos/tbc protag swap au. nothing bad ever happens to the bramblesquirrel family

[sillspore]

Same anon from the long post one.

I like the idea but some of seen too much (Don't think I hate you please 😭, a lot Wc fans can't handle criticism sometimes and go right to you thinking if someone criticizes them/or their art they must hate the person)

Maybe because just I'm bramblestar and squilf's fan, I could be bias but I wish Brambleshade is more than just a dick? I understand you hate him and that is fine but making his whole character as nothing but a character with all flaws (that what I got from reading your post, not trying to assume anything, don't change your AU just because I or anyone said so, it's your work do what you want) seem lame to me.

He is seem more to have nothing but flaws, I don't see him doing a lot of those. Him trying to exiling Squirrelflight seems something he won't do at all and have.Again no hate toward you, I think your AU could be nice to some people but not for me. Not because of you, it just seem every AU with Brambleclaw, he is same character over again.

He is either a evil, good for nothing cat who is only there to have power of three plot to happen or like I said before a man wife.

again no hate to you but the AU isn't for me but I can definitely see other people liking, maybe I would like more if you make a fanfic about it, who knows. Again I'm not saying cant have a bad/ a character you don't like befit anyone's view because it's your fanfic, all that. It's up to you.

It just seem repeat from every other AU about or around Bramnleclaw. I hope to see ur AU grow ever through I don't like some of plots in it ❤️ /ih

yeah, i understand lol! since i haven’t written anything, it’s just an outline, the characters may seem very shallow or one dimensional :) i do want to give brambleshade good qualities — in the beginning he IS good. firestar made him deputy, after all, so he must have seen leader qualities within brambleclaw. however, the intent behind this au is to add small things i like, and make canon work. a lot of plot threads and character choices in warriors are… weird, to say the least. the goal with brambleshade is to make his canon character work. in the new prophecy, he’s kind of annoying, but he’s a good guy. he’s noble, and strong, and caring. but he DOES act petty and rude to squilf after the reveal of the three’s heritage (which personally, i feel he’s within his rights to do, for the lies she led him on with), he DOES act like the three aren’t his kids after (which is so dumb to me), and he DOES use his power as a leader to set up situations to make squirrelflight look disrespectful or dumb. he puts her in dangerous situations, forces her to choose her morals over his orders (thinking of squirrelflight’s hope here), and punishes her for it.

listen, in my head, my brambleclaw is a good guy. he’s a good cat-husband, a good dad, and a good if somewhat bland leader. in my head, he’s goldenflower’s son and he acts like it. but if i put HIM in THIS au, sooo many plots simply wouldn’t happen. to match the flow of canon, i’d have to create new plots and villains and honestly? i don’t want to haha. i’m still in school, i don’t have a whole lot of time to dedicate to this. so, i’m sticking with mostly canon overarching plots and doing what i need to make it work. and in canon, bramblestar sucks. they make him cruel and vindictive and a horrible mate to squirrelflight, sometimes he outright constructs narratives to come up with reasons to be mad at her. it’s crazy. personally, i see it as them ruining him to create a new antagonist, but they refuse to make him a villain, so no one recognizes or checks his behavior. it’s so infuriating, i wish the authors would pick a characterization. stick with the intended brambleclaw and actions that make sense for him, or stick to him going “evil” and acting insane (aka how he acts in squirrelflight’s hope).

so, to make canon work, bramble is good, then “bad” (acting within reason, but the protags are his not-kids who he’s being rude to, so he’s perceived badly), then bad. he’s not meant to be evil, he isn’t ashfur or anything. but the story is meant to show that he is heartbroken, and emotionally vulnerable, and embraces a vindictive part of himself he’s never let air (which IS canon, his thought process on if he should kill firestar in sunset or not is genuinely disturbing lmao). then he gets his mate back. and THEN he is killed, possessed, mentally violated. this RUINS him. he is not mentally stable, and this allows for squirrelstar to happen. i can very well just kill him at the end of the broken code instead, it achieves the exact same result. if that’s what you guys prefer, that works for me :) the intent of bramblestar trying to exile squirrelflight for “betraying” him is to show how he’s degraded, kind of like bluestar in arc 1, and give way for the audience to see the new code rule (stripping a leader of their power) . that’s kind of what i meant by “you won’t like this if you like brambleclaw” lol. i dislike his canon character, but in my head hes just a little guy. he’s got great potential and i love him. but that has no place in this au, because conflict is NEEDED.

i hope this doesn’t come across as defensive !!! just trying to explain why i made the decisions i did :) i really appreciate your thoughts and you sending them to me! the entire point of me sharing this blog is to receive suggestions and criticisms.

my intent isn’t to make brambleclaw evil, just an antagonist. i like to imagine if i have him die before squilf gets her lives, like in the final battle of tbc (idk what he’d die to yet though, haven’t reread those books yet), he’d regain mental clarity in starclan and give her a life, for love. <3

[wc-confessions]

despite everything about bramblesquirrel, they are so hopeful to me. they've been through hell and back so many times. even through losing practically all their loved ones, they're still here. they're old and carry so much weight on their shoulders. weight that no cat else could understand. idk. just a bittersweet au i have where yes, they do argue and have bad moments, but they are able to recover each time and live happy, healthy lives. i'd say with squirrel as leader but y'know what - the two of them deserve to be the old married couple in the elders den. teasing and flirting like they're young warriors again. i just want them to be happy

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[yuridovewing]

tigerdove?

i like it!!! tbh, it’s always been the better dovewing pair out of the canon love triangle, yall are just mean. (team “bumblestripe was always weird”) i like how their relationship initially fails because they’re both screwed up cats with a lot going on and a huge burden to deal with that gives them insecurity issues and imposter syndrome. they both have to apologize for a legacy they didnt ask for and in a weird way, they’re the only ones who get it. and when they’ve both got more experience, they give it another go, and it works out for them. i like that they’re a successful crossclan relationship, and their chemistry in the later books is super fun and cute!!

that being said, i do get why it squicks people out. to be totally honest, i’m a lot more attached to my au versions of them that makes them closer in age, and im forgiving towards the existing gap because by wc standards, its not quite as awful as some other canon pairings, at least in my personal opinion. like i think bramblesquirrel squicks me out more based on the gap alone

also they shouldnt have gone back to the clans willingly. tigerhearts shadow wouldve been so much better if the authors didnt possess tigerheart halfway in to make him a mouthpiece for how the status quo is sooooo sexy and epic and everyone should suckle the clans’ toes and be just like them. when the first part of the book sets up for the opposite to happen.

[hiraganasakura]

Hey I just had a thought. How has nobody made a The Broken Code MAP set to This Day Aria with Ashfur and Bramblestar???

Ik the answer's probably bcus the general fandom consensus is that Bramblestar actually doesn't love Squirrelflight *nearly* as much as Princess Cadence loves Shining Armor in MLP, which an opinion I agree with

But just make it a healthy BrambleSquirrel AU!! Srsly literally everything else about the concept is so perfect, it's a pity that I haven't seen anyone else suggest it!