#cardinal Wolsey

[thetudorsedits]

THE TUDORS (2007-2010) | S01E10

THOMAS WOLSEY death scene | requested by anon

"I shall not see its gates, Lord. Nor hear your sweet words of salvation. I have seen eternity, I swear... but it was only a dream, and in the morning all was gone. I know myself for what I am, and I throw my poor soul upon your forgiveness. In the full knowledge that I deserve none at your loving hands."

[tenderbittersweet]

Title: Burn the Midnight Oil

Rated: R

Chapters: 5/?

Wolsey

Mary

Jane Rochford

Henry

Anne

Word Count: 3,301

Summary:

“Master Secretary doesn’t deal with bed hangings.” “Master Secretary deals with everything.” “That’s what my Uncle Norfolk says.” —a Wolf Hall deleted scene

A/N:

I couldn’t stop thinking about the fact that Rylance!Cromwell has intense chemistry with most of the people he shares a scene with, so naturally I decided to write a fic where is the fandom bicycle. Ships are tagged in order of appearance. Not all tags apply to all chapters.

[thiswaycomessomethingwicked]

Please promulgate so we may see everyone’s opinion on the Tudor Era Thomases (Henry VIII edition)

Also, take a shot for each Thomas on the list who was executed!

[earlymodernbarbie]

Claire Bloom as Catherine of Aragon, John Stride as Henry VIII and Timothy West as Cardinal Wolsey on the set of Henry VIII (1979)

[catherinesboleyn]

Blood, Sex & Royalty 1.01

(2022)

[fideidefenswhore]

Fitzroy saw in Wolsey something of a father figure, a role that fully supports the view that the cardinal had remained in close contact with him during his infancy and early childhood. This is further supported both by Wolsey's continuing contact with Bessie [Blount] and Gilbert [Tailboys], as well as the fact that, on the morning of his elevation it was from Durham Place, Wolsey's London residence, that Henry Fitzroy set out by water to travel to Bridewell Palace to meet his father.

Bessie Blount – Mistress to Henry VIII, Elizabeth Norton

[cinemaocd]

Wolf Hall, the arrival of Marlinspike.

[callipraxia]

Books Read, May 2023

I've thought of starting a book blog before, but alas - I never have enough to say when I don't have someone to bounce off of, or at least can't figure out how to say it. Plus, I mostly read nonfiction, so...probably not the most thrilling reviews. In lieu of that...here's what I read in May.

Courting Scandal: The Rise and Fall of Jane Boleyn, Lady Rochford - James Taffe

Jane Boleyn: The True Story of the Infamous Lady Rochford - Julia Fox

Young and Damned and Fair: The Life of Catherine Howard, Fifth Wife of King Henry VIII - Gareth Russell

Inside the Tudor Court: Henry VIII and His Six Wives Through the Writings of the Spanish Ambassador Eustace Chapuys - Lauren Mackay

Wolsey: The Life of King Henry VIII's Cardinal - John Matusiak

Cardinal Wolsey - Mandell Creighton

Remembering Wolsey: A History of Commemorations and Representations - J. Patrick Hornbeck II.

The Life and Death of Thomas Wolsey Cardinal: Once Archbishop of York and Lord Chancellor of England - Sir William Cavendish

Obviously, I got 'on a tangent,' as I do sometimes. I've gathered this may have something to do with the ADHD, though not from particularly official sources, so don't quote me on that. In this case, it was partially a return to old tangents; while I'd not read the last three books on this list before, my reading journal indicates I previously went on a bit of a tangent on the subject of Cardinal Wolsey in February and March of 2021. I was also immensely pleased, in my Kindle recommendations earlier this month, to find a book on Chapuys; he was always one of those background figures in the historical fictions I read as a kid that I wished I knew more about. Gotta read his letters myself sometime, since it seems, from the Google, that they can be viewed online in English translation.

I'll give Lauren Mackay this: she's much more honest than a lot of authors are when she reached places where the information simply no longer exists, or at least hasn't been recovered yet. There was enough 'prose' to keep it interesting, but not excessive attempts to state things about the ambassador that she couldn't back up with evidence. This, I felt, was in sharp contrast to Julia Fox; I loved the descriptions of the court, the attempts to tell a story, and these things definitely have a place in history-writing, but here they were fairly blatantly...fluffy, I suppose. Now, I'm hardly one to complain of fluff, rather fond of soft things myself, but it was glaringly obvious, when she said Lady Rochford must have been thinking or feeling something, that she was essentially filling in the blanks with a story of her own devising. Sometimes the 'costume' of historicity the text wore was something it looked 'comfortable' in and sometimes it was quite obviously a poorly-researched French hood shoved awkwardly onto the head of an actress with zero knowledge of sixteenth century fashion and how to wear it, but there were always leaps from one point to another. In contrast to that, I felt that Gareth Russell balanced his reader-drawing prose fluff with his historical analysis much more adeptly when considering Catherine Howard; I've read his book more than once over the past couple of years and expect I'll read it again in years to come. I came away with no impression of James Taffe's work, alas, except that he clearly wrote his book as an exasperated rebuttal to Julia Fox; I was, unfortunately, very sleep-deprived when I read that, so I'll have to read it again sometime. My lack of sleep, however, is not why I read the rebuttal first and the book it was responding to second...even though I'd had Fox's book in my physical TBR shelves for several years and only stumbled across Taffe's the day I bought it. I'm told I've always had a tendency to do things in the wrong order and somehow make it work anyway, so why mess with a good system at this point?

As for one book being a rebuttal to another - here we come to one of my favorite things about reading history, which is to say, how often historians blatantly attack or support each other in their writing. In the last couple of chapters of Remembering Wolsey, I was irrationally delighted to see the author offer opinions on every book I read during my 2021 tangent as well as one of the ones I read this time around. It's amusing (to me) to sort of...get to know the different personalities: "hm, yes, I can see why someone would say that about Ives," or "yeah, I never did get Starkey's position on that, all things considered," or "ha, that was almost the exact same thing I said two years ago about Ridley!" It's...oddly cozy, I suppose.

Hornbeck was especially interesting as he wasn't writing about what happened - he was writing about the trends in how people have remembered what happened over the past few centuries. There were interesting thoughts on historical fiction throughout, especially near the end; that one may warrant a full independent review, if I can muster the energy to write it out. For now, however - there's all the reading I did in May.

[ohfairmaidenofyork]

George Boleyn being the Supportive Gay and Wolsey being the Judgy Gay is a creative decision I fully support.

[pitch-and-moan]

A Mannequin for All Seasons

An AI-penned remake of the British historical drama based on a play of the same name. The whole film is subtitles screaming at a mannequin dressed up at Sir Thomas More.

[bargainsleuthbooks]

#ARC: The King's Pleasure: A Novel of Henry VIII (Tudor Rose #2) by Alison Weir

#AlisonWeir is an expert on the Tudors. Following her 6-volume #historicalfiction series of #KingHenryVIII wives, a new book focuses on the King himself. #TheKingsPleasure #HenryVIII #ARC #Netgalley #BallantineBooks #BookReview #May2023Books #NewRelease

Young Henry began his rule as a magnificent and chivalrous Renaissance prince who embodied every virtue. He had all the qualities to make a triumph of his rule, yet we remember only the violence. Henry famously broke with the Pope, founding the Church of England and launching a religious revolution that divided his kingdom. He beheaded two of his wives and cast aside two others. He died a…

[terribletudorsandvilevictorians]

I have a new and long post today about Cardinal Wolsey, so it will be split up into 2 parts. 😊

PART ONE:

For some reason, Henry VIII certainly did like arresting people on November 4th. In 1530, he arrested Thomas Wolsey, and in 1538, he arrested Margaret Pole, Henry Pole, and Henry Courtenay. We’ll get to that second set of arrestees later on, but for now, let’s take a brief look at Cardinal Thomas Wolsey. He certainly had a wild ride, from a degree at Oxford at age 15 to becoming Henry VII’s chaplain to his trip all the way to the top as Henry VIII’s chief minister from 1515 to 1529.

His rise is even more impressive when you know that he started as a butcher’s son. He was one of the successful “new men” of the Tudor era, but the more power and wealth he gained, the more the traditional aristocracy resented his meteoric rise. While Anne Boleyn usually gets the blame for Wolsey’s fall, I think that the evidence points more to these grand Tudor aristocrats pulling him down at last when he couldn’t get Pope Clement VII to approve Henry’s divorce from Katherine of Aragon. On October 9th, 1529, Wolsey was indicted for praemunire, which never seemed very fair to me. As the Oxford dictionary tells us, refers to “the offense of asserting or maintaining papal jurisdiction in England” against the supremacy of the king. But what was Wolsey supposed to do? As a cardinal, he was torn between king and pope, damned if he did and executed if he didn’t

[athenepromachos]

Tudor villains - Disney Style. Cardinal Wolsey, Thomas Cromwell, Lady Rochford and Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk 👑

Via comtessedelalune on Deviantart

[earlymodernbarbie]

Catherine of Aragon and the Cardinals (1866) by William Bromley

[ukdamo]

Today’s Flickr photo with the most hits: the Tudor kitchen at Hampton Court. Pity the poor kitchen boys who had to turn those roasting spits. 

[fideidefenswhore]

When rumours flew far and wide that such men [as Bryan and Carew] 'after their appetite governed the king', Wolsey dismissed them, replacing them with older, wiser heads. One was Sir Richard Wingfield, now married to the much younger Bridget Wiltshire, Anne's childhood friend.

Hunting the Falcon: Henry VIII, Anne Boleyn, and The Marriage That Shook Europe, John Guy & Julia Fox