#cw transtrender

[magioffire]

“theyfabs” tell me youre chronically online without telling me youre chronically online

[l1zardfxck420]

SPOOKYGENDER !!!

this is a gender that feels spooky and connected to halloween in a childish and silly way!

anyone can use the flag but please give credit!

EYESTRAIN WARNING UP AHEAD

both flags are free to use with credit ^•^

[penwrythepersonal]

CW // Personal Vent over internalized homophobia and enbyphobia within the LGBTQ+ community

I got heavily triggered last night over absolute bullshit, so strap yourself in because ahhhhhhhhHHHHHHHH-

Have you ever seen harmful discourse over labels and the invisible massive harm that everyone is doing to themselves and towards others because of the said discourse (and resulting callouts and creepy people doing account monitoring on those they deem problematic because of discourse)?

I thought we learned by now that recycling hate was never a good look in this community. But nope, it's okay for some fucking reason!

I refuse to participate in this hate. I'm nonbinary. About half a decade ago, a lot of people hated us because they didn't understand us. People got harassed to hell and back over that, even though there was literally no harm in being nonbinary. I remember that. Does anyone remember that???

It's back but in a different form! New hate! Do you love it? I fucking don't!

Sorry for the vaguing, but I don't want to get involved in the discourse. I am so tired and scared of what's happening in my country. Please don't hurt me.

Community-wide homophobia is awful. I have filtered tags and keywords for the label discourse on all my accounts, but I still see it every day. Do you have any idea what the phrase "[label redacted] people don't exist" sounds like to me?????

"Nonbinary people don't exist" was normal five/ten years ago. That's hate. That's hate to me. I heard that in my own community. Remember that people got harassed over a harmless gender label. There is no harm in being nonbinary. Want to see what it was like? I suggest watching this video: Kalvin Garrah | Dangers of Transtrender bullying

Content warning for the video: suicide attempt mention, harassment, transphobia, homophobia

That wasn't too long ago! And I still see it now. Why are we repeating this hate today over sexuality labels???

Don't dare to bring the discourse here. I want no part of it. Do not fucking hurt me. Do not. Please don't hurt me.

Some of you are twenty-something years old, young adults justifying harassment over minors, and other adults over labels you don't understand. Do you have any idea what you are doing? What you are repeating?

It's terrifying. Imagine one day someone decided that your name can't be used ever again because of problematic discourse long after you passed. But you used that name when you were alive, why it's bad now? Why?

*Explains why it's bad now*

Okay, I get that, but why it's was okay for you to use back then?! It's bad now, don't you know?

A week or two ago, I made a post that we need more LGBTQ elder representation. There's a reason why I made it. Not just that elders represent our future and past, but also that we existed far beyond this current era.

For the people who keep saying "trans/nonbinary is new" we fucking existed long before this current era.

For the people who keep saying "[label redacted] is new" take a long hardass look at that D//kes To Look Out For Comic script by Alison Bechdel that's been going around posts as of late.

Just for the record, I'm not a fan of the [label redacted]. I find it odd and contradictory, I much prefer sapphic or biflux instead. But I'm not going to recycle hate against people who use that label or support it. I refuse to do that. I don't want to be another Kalvin Garrah.

How long did it take to for us nonbinary folk to be accepted after the discourse around us ran dry? Five years? Ten?

How long until the current discourse around [label redacted] runs itself dry? Oh, the water looks a little low now, given how much I keep seeing the muted label on my timeline. Won't be long until my hesitance to accept it will look a little odd to some people. Then to a lot of people. Then to an entire community. Then to an entire generation.

I'll give it five years. Ten at the longest.

I'll be 37, and 42 for the latter. Oh, can't wait for people to look at me like I'm some outdated self-hating gay. People thought [label redacted] was bad back then, really? What were they thinking?

Yeah, what are we thinking now? What are you thinking now?? Will you be the same five/ten years from now?

Ten years ago, I thought I was straight cis woman. I was 22 and I remember praying for the lost souls of gay people because I thought they needed saving. Then I realized I was bisexual after giving a good thought about my sexual attraction (girls and guys are hot, who knew). It took me longer to realize I was also nonbinary, too. Unfortunately, I was one of those people who thought nonbinary people "doesn't exist". But now, I'm here. I am nonbinary (fuck gender)

Did you know there's an anti-bisexual community on this site? There's also an anti-pansexual community here, too. Don't forget the anti-neopronoun people still kicking around!

Odd fuckers they are. What were they thinking?

Why do we keep recycling hate?

[pupyzu]

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❝ TRANSTRENDER PRIDE FLAGS! ❞

Trenderpunk | Trendercore | Trendersoft

TRENDERPUNK: a subculture surrounded around trans self-love, self-acceptance, punk aesthetics, social justice, and identifying with the term “trender” / “transtrender”. ⊹ ⁺

TRENDERCORE: a subculture surrounded around trans self-love, self-acceptance, bright colored aesthetics, social justice, and identifying with the term “trender” / “transtrender”. ⊹ ⁺

TRENDERSOFT: a subculture surrounded around trans self-love, self-acceptance, soft/pastel aesthetics, social justice, and identifying with the term “trender” / “transtrender”. ⊹ ⁺

flags by me, based off of the voidpunk flag. i wanted to make flags specifically for those who identify with these subcultures, outside of just the aesthetics themselves. lmk if any of the definitions need to be changed. see also: trendergender, trendercoric, trenderpunkic.

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[cishetlessfashion]

Me: *puts on goofy makeup *single digit* times a year because I like fun*

Every Big Brain on the internet: why are you destroying the secrecy of transgenderedism 😞 trenders smh

[clown-butch]

reminder: if youre a terf please do not interact with me you literally make me fucking nauseated thanks

[nondysphoric--enby]

[foulserpent]

transmedicalists are like if you disagree with my masochist self hatred bootlicking coven youre automatically a fake transgender

[minkdenmilo]

CW: Internalzied Transphobia, General Transphobia

My life is just constant self judgement 😔

Like I’ll consume mlm fanfics and media then beat myself up for fetishizing mlm- despite the fact I am trans masc mlm and even when I didn’t ID as trans masc I went out of my way to avoid fetishizing mlm.

Or I’ll call myself a trans man and then beat myself up because I clearly don’t have enough dysphoria and am simply being trans because its trendy and I have internalized misogyny. But like... I’ve felt like this for ages and I’m very clearly not just faking it or anything.

Like- I’m closeted so people still refer to me as she/her and I’m annoyed by it but it doesn’t make me crazy upset and my physical dysphoria has never been too bad so I’ll go and call myself a transtrender (even though I don’t even think transtrenders really exist) and then get made at myself for invalidating myself and subscribing to internalized transphobia but then I go back to “well I’m not trans enough to be trans” LIKE THERE IS NO METRIC FOR THIS WHY DO I CONSTANTLY INVALIDATE MYSELF BASED OFF AN IMAGINARY METRIC FOR BEING TRANS???

[rotationalsymmetry]

The mistakes people make when trying to understand trans people. (Not gonna say cis people, it can take trans people a while to figure this stuff out too.) Not necessarily in this exact order. CW: Discussion of transphobic and transmisogynistic concepts, genitals mentions.

Your gender is determined by your body (genitals/chromosomes/whatever) and is immutable (and also intersex people don’t exist but that’s a whole ‘nother topic.) Anyone who says otherwise is wrong or delusional.

OK, maybe there’s some trans people, but only men and women, and they’re not really men/women until they’ve “fully transitioned” (back to your genitals determining your gender.)

And it’s a very, very, very rare thing and only shows up one way: having a consistent sense of being the other binary gender from a young age, being intensely miserable living as the assigned gender, ending up straight, ending up gender conforming, etc.

Also they’re not really men and women, they’re some sort of in between freak of nature. (Referring to a trans woman as “they”, etc.)

OK, maybe trans people’s genitals aren’t anyone else’s business. But they at least have to look like their gender, otherwise how is anyone supposed to take them seriously? (Also: why do trans people get so angry all the time? It’s a mystery.)

OK, trans men are men and trans women are women. But...that means they’re exactly the same as cis men and women in every meaningful way. (Including, at the absurd extremes, things like who needs pap smears etc. At marginally less absurd extremes, figuring trans men don’t have anything meaningful to say about patriarchy based on lived experience, because apparently gender identity means everybody retroactively knew what your real gender was your whole life.)

Trans men’s experiences and trans women’s experiences have to be mirror images of each other. In particular: if a trans women wants to start using women’s restrooms and not men’s as soon as she starts dressing like a woman, and a trans man wants to keep using women’s bathrooms while he’s transitioning, one of them has to be wrong.

Non-binary people don’t really exist, you can humor them but they’re basically just people of their assigned gender playing around.

Non-binary people exist, but only if they look androgynous.

Non-binary people exist, and are (all) a third in-between or genderless category.

Non-binary people can all be simplified down to “basically men” or “basically women”. (”Woman-aligned” etc.)

All non-binary people can give you an extremely precise explanation of their gender identity, it’s never “well I think I’m not this and I’m pretty sure I’m not that and some days I feel this and other days I feel...”

Trans people can be divided into two categories: real trans people, and “transtrenders” who are just pretending to be trans. Because that’s a normal thing to do.

Real trans status has to be earned through suffering

(Binary) trans people can’t be interested in the same sex

Trans people can’t be gender non-conforming

Trans people have to medically transition or at least want to; medical transition is the only form of transition; if you’re not 100% sure you want to medically transition then doing more easily reversed things like experimenting with hair or clothes or asking people to use different gendered terms for you, is pointless.

Everybody has exactly one gender. Or at most one.

Genders other than “male” and “female” are made up (in a way that “male” and “female” are not)

If I personally can’t imagine being transgender, then it must not be real.

Being non-binary means you have to actively want to destroy the gender binary/identifying as non-binary is inherently a political statement.

More people identifying as trans is bad for gay people, gays/lesbians and trans people have conflicting interests, being trans is more acceptable to the general public than being gay and trans people are mostly actually gay people who get pushed into identifying as trans for greater social acceptance.

Puberty blockers are totally the same thing as HRT and allowing minors access to appropriate medical treatment is pushing an agenda on to them. Doing nothing is neutral and can’t possibly cause harm.

Detransitioning or shifting from a binary trans to a non-binary identity is betraying the cause/is evidence the person made a mistake by transitioning regardless of how they see it/is evidence that there should be more barriers to medical transition.

You have to get your identity right the first time: asking people to use different pronouns for you and then changing to new ones or back to your original pronouns, means you’re not taking this seriously.

In general, asking people to use different pronouns for you should be one of the last steps in the process, after more expensive and less reversible measures like hormone therapy, not one of the earliest.

Unless you’re 100% sure you’re trans, you’re definitely cis.

Real trans people never second guess themselves.

Welp, that’s 18 28 items which is a bunch more than I expected to get to. I’m just kind of playing around with ideas in my head here. Happy to have anyone add on.

(This is meant for trans people mostly, so please don’t be hostile on this thread. If you’re confused and want to know more I'd recommend that questions show up in my ask box off anon so if you accidentally say something hurtful/offensive, I can reply privately. Like, I’m not going to be hurt and I’m not going to judge if it seems to be coming from a place of not knowing rather than overt hostility, and I’d rather you ask than just be confused. Having said that, I’m terrible at actually responding to asks, so you might do better with someone else or seeing what you can come up with from internet searches.)

[tinkertytonkanddownwiththenazis]

K, I recently got into a keyboard battle with someone who was probably a troll, but I want to make a point about transness, dysphoria and “trenders”

CW: this post is going to reference the medicalisation of transness as well as medical transphobia.

“Transtrender” is a transphobic term. I will not debate you on this and if you disagree, I don’t want you following me. It is used to insult and deride trans people who are non-dysphoric/gnc/nonbinary/don’t want to medically transition/don’t pass and cut us out of the community because we don’t fit the narrow view of transness held by many cis people. And honestly, I can sorta understand why some binary trans people would use it. Transphobia is exhausting to deal with, I got my fair share when I came out. So if a bunch of cis people start saying “I’m fine with trans men and women who put the work in (medically transition + pass), but all this genderfluid nonsense? I mean really?” it makes excluding people outside of that narrow view seem beneficial. If you say “they’re nto with us, we don’t want anything to do with them either” it puts you on their side. So yeah, I understand that it’s presented as an easy way to assimilate and for the trans people who want that, or who just want to not get shit for existing, that would be nice. But we shouldn’t be dividing our own community for the sake of an “easy” way out. If we all band together and say “accept all of us or none of us” we can get the rights and respect we deserve.

The DSM openly acknowledges that not all trans people experience gender dysphoria. This person made a wonderful post with quotes from DSM-5 because not everyone has immediate access to it. I am truting you to click that link because they summarise it really well and I’m not just going to regurgitate everything they’ve said because I have more points to make.

The fear that “transtrenders” are a threat to trans healthcare and trans rights. The concern here is that the presense of  “fake” trans people will cause doctors to make gender conformations surgery and HRT even harder to access, something that’s a big issue in places like the UK where to get approved for surgery or hormones you have to speak to two separate psycholigists to make sure you’re really trans. *cracks knuckles* So lets break this down. First off, a number of “trenders” don’t feel the need to medically transition, so they will never try to. If you’re about to bring up detransitioners, 1) they make up anywhere between 1-5% of people who transition medically, and 2) The reasons they cite for detransitioning are lack of external support from friends and family (many of this group later re-transition once in a safer environment), not feeling like they adequetly pass, or saying that they sought medical intervention because they felt social pressure to do so (i.e. people perpetuating the idea that you have to medically transitions to be “really” trans). Stonewall wrote a really great post on the subject with links to the relevant papers and studies. The Wikipidea page on the subject is also really good. Detransitioners do not disqualify everyone else who transitions, and more people need to recognise that medically transitioning is not manditory to be trans. So those who don’t want to medically transition aren’t a threat. Next point. I am nonbinary and currently on the waiting list for a GIC in Exeter because I want top surgery. Just top surgery. Once I have my first appointment, I will be asked a bunch of questions to check if I’m really trans. For a very long time, trans healthcare was and still is extremely binary, and while changes are being made to accomodate NB people, they aren’t happening everywhere. Meaning, there is a good chance I won’t fit their criteria and I won’t be approved for surgery. Even as I write this, the though of being turned away terrifies me. So I and lots of other NB people apply for hormones or surgery that we genuinely want and get turned away. Then doctors start thinking “hmm, so many trenders are applying these days. If some of them slip through the net, they could get treatment they don’t want or need and that’s going to make life hard for them. We need to raise the bar to prevent that from happening.” We didn’t raise the bar. They did. The biggest barrier to medical transition is not nonbinary people or non-dysphoric people, or trans people who don’t pass. It is a narrow minded view of the trans experience. There are plenty of binary trans people who get turned away because they don’t meet the standards set by cis doctors. Because every trans experience is different. Just because only some people can jump over that bar doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t jump at all.

I recognise that this isn’t as well worded as it could be. I struggle to articulate myself sometimes. But please read this because we need to have a broader view of transness and trans experiences. I am not the enemy.

[confirmedfruit]

CW: Transmedicalism, dysphoria, TERFs mentioned. Cis people can interact I guess but this is very a intra-community concern

There are a lot of issues with how we as a community tals about dysphoria that I wanted to vocalize. From what I've observed there's a great deal of internalized transphobia in how we speak about our experiences, because there is a great pressure to make what we're experiencing as palatable to cis people as possible. Trying to pass off the most painful form of dysphoria as the Only Legitimate form is genuinely harmful. This is relevant to the great transgender vs. transtrender debate, and I'd go so far as to say every so-called "nondysphoric" trans person actually is dysphoric, but their dysphoria doesn't align with the view of "true" dysphoria being a life-threatening hatred of one's body. There's a huge issue with transmeds shooting down any nuanced discussions because in their eyes if there's a sliver of uncertainty about your trans identity that is for sure proof you're faking. This ideology has stifled any chances that people like me who long considered themself nondysphoric would be able to relate to posts talking about dysphoria, because it is simply not as straightforward as other people's. I know people say all the time "everyone experiences dysphoria different uwuwu" but it's painfully obvious most people don't practice that belief, and give in to the notion if you're not in constant agony you're faking it.

I think a lot of these issues will be mitigated if we're more open about the differences in how straight trans people and gay trans people experience dysphoria, as sexuality really does play a huge role in how you express and relate to your gender. People have pointed out more and more how most attacks on "transtrenders" are really directed at gay (and often fat) trans men who aren't performing a stereotype of masculinity. I understand why it's easy to just push these experiences aside because it's not as cut and dried what transmeds hold up as True dysphoria, but the fact that I've seen little to no one talk about variations in how dysphoria manifests has been largely invalidating. The fact I didn't fit into the "correct" trans narrative made me think I eventually had to be a cis woman, which made me dysphoric to the point of suicidal ideation. One would go so far to say this ideation proves that I'm a Real trans, but I don't think it's healthy that an otherwise nonsuicidal person should only be validated when he's suicidal. It comes from the same mentality that trans people only deserve respect and recognition when we're suicidal or straight up dead, which I would say is a result trying desperately to appease cis people.

I'd be willing to go so far and start a dialogue with transmeds, but it would appear the driving force of their ideology is that trans people are abnormal and bad, and you only transition if it's life or death, not necessarily because it would make you happier. To a lot of them being trans is cis lite, and they center their conceptualization of being trans with how cis you can get yourself to be. No doubt part of this is because of their internal dysphoria, but it's not healthy to push that on an external community of people who all have variable experiences with dysphoria. And although transmeds claim they're coming from a place of medical concern their communities are rampant with misinformation, the biggest being that trans is a mental disorder, of which literally any medical practitioner worth their degree would disagree with. Being trans is not a condition, the anxiety and depression that comes from dysphoria is what needs treating. Furthermore, the push to pathologize being trans would be exploited by eugenicists, who most certainly agree with transmeds that being trans is a mental disorder.

I have a greater appreciation for posts that say a person is whatever gender they say they are, and I think it's a very positive ideology to replace the pain-focused ones we have now. And yeah there are some ~weird~ genders out there, but I'll take a mogaii space princen who uses starpronouns over a transmed who gives cis people permission to determine who is and who isn't trans any day of the week. I'd love to make a different post about how the TERF lite ideology of butchcommunist and them are just as complicit in the distress I've been feeling these past few months as transmedicalism, and how insidious it is to suggest to trans men the dysphoria they're experiencing is because of internalized misogyny instead of encouraging people to do what they believe will make them happy because if they do they're giving into the patriarchy or whatever the fuck. Gender dysphoria is not a result of misogyny.

I would be remiss to not acknowledge that pretty much everything written here is something a trans woman has said before, and I'm only coming to these conclusions now because I couldn't get over my transmisogyny to internalize these messages.

[gendercrisisrants]

Feeling alone

Cw: slight transphobia

So recently, some of my trans friends have started being kinda transphobic.

One of these friends is kind of toxic anyways, so I've been trying to distance myself from him, but that's really hard when I sit at the same table as him.

But today was rough, and on top of it, the WiFi is out so I can't really talk to anyone about how their conversations affect me without outing myself.

They constantly talk about "transtrenders", who can talk about trans issues, the fact that there are right and wrong ways to do it, but I just... I just wonder what they consider "wrong" information. Is it stuff that is blantantly transphobic? Or is it stuff that doesn't match their experiences?

But what-ifing aside, I know that one doesn't like the fact that I'm non-binary. He used to be chill with it - and that's what sucks. When I first came out, he was the ONLY person who asked about my pronouns... A few other people have, but over a year later. But now he seems to think that my gender doesn't exist. And I don't know what to do with that. I don't know how to deal with the fact that one of the few voices who truly got it when I first came out is now voicing the same things that other voices follow up with "you're the reason everyone hates the trans community"

It's hard that the people who were the closest I had to mentors when I first started questioning have abandoned me and believe others who present how I do or ID with the same label are nothing more than "trenders"

Anyways, feel free to add any experience or advice - anything really. I just need some positivity. I need to feel like there's a community out there that will accept every part of me

[babywarrior5]

Some kid on dA was complimenting some drawings of Aris so I checked out her page but her faves are full of stamps that say things like “Just because you’re LGBT doesn’t mean it’s okay to be cis/heterophobic!!”, “Stop making up genders and sexualites!” and “NO transtrending!”

Z O I N K S, SCOOB!

[pupyzu]

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❝ TRANSTRENDER! ❞

PRITRENDER: a gender connected to being a (trans)trender prince; this gender is connected to being a (trans)trender, (trans)trender pride, prince aesthetics, and non-binary boyhood! ⊹ ⁺

TRENDERCESSE: a gender connected to being a (trans)trender princess; this gender is connected to being a (trans)trender, (trans)trender pride, princess aesthetics, and non-binary girlhood! ⊹ ⁺

ROYALTRENDER: a gender connected to being (trans)trender royalty; this gender is connected to being a (trans)trender, (trans)trender pride, royal aesthetics, and being non-binary! ⊹ ⁺

flag/coined by me! (trendergender flag here!)

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[[ DNI ID: do not interact: bigots, anti-mogai, TERFs/SWERFs, truscum/transmeds, NSFW blogs, proshipper/antianti, pro DDLG/ageplay, MAPs/NOMAPs, anti BLM/ACAB, anti MSPEC lesbian/gay, against nonwomen using femme/butch, cringe/flop blogs . ID OVER ]]

[transgenderresearch]

an intro course.

cw transmedicalism, gender dysphoria

Instagram can be a truly nasty place. That’s why I always make it a point to read the comments. I have scrolled through countless online bickering and pettiness, but the Instagram comments that have stayed with me the most were the ones that inspired me to start keeping up with this conversation. The comments I began to engage with were on a post containing this image. 

Up to this point, I was unaware of this viewpoint within the trans community. Once I realized the conversation had been around for years and was still going on I got even more curious about what this debate meant for the community and the feelings it sparked.

Within the transgender community, there are people who identify themselves as transmedics, or who believe in transmedicalism. Transmedics believe that to be able to call yourself transgender you must also experience gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria, as defined by the American Psychiatric Association, is “...a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender.” More broadly, they believe in, what is often referred to as,  the science of being trans. Transmedics believe that if you do not experience gender dysphoria, to some degree, you are a transtrender, or a trender. A trender is someone transmedics believe are faking being trans for social clout, and because of the increased visibility of trans and other gender-variant people. They also refer to trenders as tucutes, stemming from these people being “too cute” to actually be trans. People with the opposite view, trans people do not have to experience gender dysphoria to be trans, refer to transmedicalists as trusum. This stems from their belief that transmedicalists are “true scum”. They believe that transmedics are gatekeeping the trans community with a narrow-minded view of being trans. If all of this terminology sounds a bit like trolling it’s because it was all invented by people who spend a lot of time on the internet.

In addition to the limited view of who is trans, transmeds oftentimes do not validate non-binary trans people as actual trans people unless they feel some level of gender dysphoria. This especially applies to non-binary people whose gender expression matches the gender they were assigned at birth. Within the transmed definition, these non-binary people would be considered cisgender. 

I have found that the conversation around transmedicalism is alive and well on platforms like tumblr, reddit, twitter, and instagram. The conversations taking place seem to always divide into these two camps, and the debates are heated and often end with personal attacks. The biggest issue and source of toxicity in these conversations is the idea promoted by transmedicalists that if you are actually trans there is no way you like being trans. They hold staunchly to the idea that the suffering of gender dysphoria would make any real trans person wish they were cis. But many trans people who do not believe in transmedicalism find this conflation of being trans and suffering to be a dangerous narrative to be pushing. From the perspective of transmedicalists, they are protecting cis people from beginning a false transition that will result in irreversible changes and the development of gender dysphoria post hormones or gender affirming surgery. 

Transmedicalism is rooted in a dependence on the medical system. It is a belief that relies too much on the promotion of suffering and the idea that the only medicine for a trans person is medical help and transitioning. It does not account for societal standards and the pressure of a binary gender system that oppresses, not only trans people but everyone it touches. In this blog, I will examine the growing transmedicalist views on social media and it’s representations from popular figures. I will (try to) dispel myths that are spread by transmedicalists and center transgender identities in readings of gender that hold space for trans people who may or may not experience gender dysphoria.