#din doesnt know what a jedi is

[littledeadling]

Cant get over how hard they’re biffing it with the Mandalorian. God. Ouchie

[daftmooncretin]

rip to rian johnson but star wars sequels would be way better if ben solo was just kinda cowardly and han solo coded so he defected from the jedi and went to be a fun swashbuckling anarchist space cowboy instead

and finn and poe have to find him and try to convince him to come back to the rebellion but hes afraid who he is and what he could become

also instead of luke trying to kill his nephew for NO REASON (so insanely out of character it boils my blood) he just realises after ben dips thats hes not cut out for teaching. and is living on a mandalorian colony as rebellion liason/ambassador with chewie and sometimes lando i guess (din djarin is there) he aids the rebellion (because of course he would fuck that plotline) but he wont stay on the rebel base because he doesnt like all the chosen one clout and mandalorians are very chill and mind their own business

han and leia are still together and play active parts in the rebellion because fuck that plotline too although they do disagree about the ben situation (leia is annoyed and han is understanding) poe and ben childhood friends and for what.

in this au, rey is raised in the empire and is a sith lord but she has doubts and isnt as abjectly disgusting as kylo ren because of course not. (appears slightly too interested in the rebellion when poe is captured and maybe??? possibly lets finn and poe escape but thats up for debate.) rey gets more evil over course of movies before turning to light for plot drama and a satisfying zuko arc.

force awakens timeline

prophecy that a new jedi will rise and take down the dark side. rey and sith lord (dk who but fuck snoke im writing him out) assume it is the missing ben solo (its finn and rey tho fr) and are intent on finding him. movie opens on rey being evil probably and capturing poe. also finn as a character actully needs no real changes hes great. and then next scene space pirate ben solo doing his thing (but without identity revealed so we dont know who he is yet he may go by kylo because funny)

instead of luke poe has a lead on missing almost-jedi before he dipped ben solo and is searching for him on leias orders.(rebellion also believe the prophecy is about him. but nuh uh) torture scene and escape scene doesnt need to change but show reys nuances and how lost she is.

in the interest of narrative poe and finn still crash on tatooine but finn manages to pull poe out of the crash. (finn still gets the jacket at some point because i say so) poe is too injured to fly so they seek out help and and meet ben solo who saves them from pirates or something idk. (but neither know who the other is)

finn and poe convince ben solo to be their pilot still thinking hes a random smuggler named kylo. they get along very well, especially finn and ben. rey by this point is tracking their whereabouts

they end up on that lightsaber planet and ben gets the weird darth vader nightmare and freaks out, (hes afraid of being evil or something idk) poe is getting suspicious now also finn feels the force and takes up the lightsaber. rey comes and finn trys to hold her off. finn get hurt and drops lightsaber. ben is forced to take it up and his identity is revealed as rebel reeforcements led by han and leia arrive and they see him fighting. rey and ben have a weird charged moment (yes i guess i am still making reylo a thing but its reyben now and its woke so shh) and in a dramatic desperate effort he manages to knock her lightsaber away with the force. poe crawls into a plane at somepoint and blows up reys ship. the rebels destroy the stormtroopers but rey captures finn and escapes in a stolen ship.

ben has a oh-shit-i-said-id-never-use-the-force-again related existential crisis which makes him freak out and leaves. a distraught finn-less poe calls him a coward. poe picks up the discarded lightsaber and the jackettm and sadly packs them up. leia tells him about the starkiller and poe volunteers to go on the starkiller and save finn. han and leia have a sweet moment and han decides to go with poe on the suicide mission, chewie goes too.(chewie arrived at somepoint i guess)

mid hostage situation finn blocks reys force attempt and shes shook up. he sees something in her (finn is a beautiful sweetheart) and he trys to appeal to her. she force chokes him and books it out of there. but it is clear she fears him a little. he escapes with mind tricks and runs into han poe and chewie on the deck. finnpoe moment fr. poe gives him his jacket back in order to get the keep it it looks good on you line.

meanwhile ben is back on his ship(i guess its the falcon?) and he thinks about finn and his mom and luke or something.. a dream maybe?? idk something emotional and motivational for his arc. and he goes to a box under the floor in his ship and pulls out a green lightsaber. he turns the ship around.

on the ship poe finn han and chewie are planting the bombs and escaping when they get stopped by stormtroopers ordered by rey. poe is about to be shot by a big droid thing when it is cut in half by ben wow big reveal hes here oooo ah. rey is shot in the shoulder by chewie and angrily orders more stormtroopers. they cant take them all. han sacrifices himself by blowing up the bridge. he tells finn and poe to find luke in the mandolorian colony ben is distraught him and han have an emotional goodbye he tells him to tell leia he’s sorry and that he loves him and he proud of him then he makes chewy get ben out of there and he blows himself up. leia senses it v sad rip man but he had to die to intensify plot drama

rey chases them onto the ice planet and another weird charged moment. mind link established??? this time ben is too angry and grieving though so its not a good match and she wounds him real bad all over hes v scarred now. poe shoots at rey and throws lightsaber at finn. he gets ben onto the ship and finn and rey have the big force awakens show down. finn uses the force v powerful all that jazz the good guys get away. on the ship finn mentions how he felt a connection with rey to poe and claims he sees good in her

movie ends with meeting luke on mandolore. ben is very traumatised wont really speak to finn or poe and avoiding luke. finn returns lukes lightsaber and rey has doubts movie over. movies ends with ominous rey ben mind link

final notes (on first movie and overarching rewrite plans)

finn

finn is the protagonist of this movie so it would be much more character heavy on him them the original. more in depth on his stormtrooper trauma, how he always chooses the people he loves over the cause and his reluctance to join the rebellion. his friendship with poe and the han/leia parallel’s especially. relationships with han and ben important for his character exposition and he plays a key role in supporting both rey and bens character progression. possesses the strong sense of mercy and kindness at the heart of the star wars franchise.

rey

rey is raised in the first empire and does not know anything different. when she meets finn who was able to rebel and escape from the same system she is trapped in she becomes plagued by doubts and projects all of her hatred and resentment onto finn to compensate, but it is clear she fears him. to escape from her doubts she fixates on finding and capturing ben solo imagining him to be a frightening and terrible adversary. however when she meets him they see eachothers minds, and she sees how plagued by doubt and fear he is, how he runs from everything and he sees her too. they connect and develop a strange mutual fascination/understanding. this is put askew by finns appearance at the end of the movie in defence of ben. reys fear of finn increases when she sees the true extent of his power. she fears and hates equally finns strength of character and easy goodness and by extension hates ben for his alliance with finn. she blames finn for “taking” ben from her.

ben solo

kylo ren is a disgusting blight on the star wars names so ben solo is being completely reclaimed by me into a different character because i fucking hate that stupid pretentious eboy. instead ben solo is an incredibly han solo coded character with a heart of gold and deep love and loyalty to his friends and family. his main weakness as a character in this rewrite is his fear and lack of self belief. ben is terrified of being a jedi and of his own power. he fears his own nature and was so afraid he would become his grandfather that he ran from the jedi altogether. ben solo is a runner that wont face his problems, he runs from the jedi and from his parents to avoid failing or becoming something terrible. finn and ben recognise the need to run in eachother (although important distinction finn runs because he doesn’t want to fight for a cause. and ben runs because hes afraid he will be the reason the cause fails) and ultimately encourage eachother to break the cycle and stand their ground (well finn motivated ben in this movie, finns not fixed yet.) Bens arc in these movies is about learning to live with his own nature and fighting for what he believes in despite his fear. also dealing with mommy issues (ben is kind of jealous of poe and leias relationship the son she wanted or something blah blah blah etc) and being a malewife to his murder girlfriend. his job is kind of to support and fight with finn and later rey and help them save the world

finnpoe (will be a gay couple)

their friendship will be front and centre in these movies because they represent duty vs personal loyalty. poe puts the cause above all else and values his own life and personal relationships little. finn on the other hand is disillusioned with establishment cause of stormtrooper trauma and wants to protect himself and others from it. poe is the first person that finn truly bonds with and loves. he puts poe above everything, including being a jedi and the rebellion. this leads to a lot of fighting and discord between finn and poe as finn doesn’t understand how important the rebellion is to poe and poe doesnt get why finn is trying to protect him from it. ultimately though poe teaches finn faith and belief and finn teaches poe to accept love and value himself. (also many hanleia parallels) the two of them are the harbingers of a new age. poe as future leader of the new republic and finn as the jedi messiah or whatever. in terms of romance, im thinking slowburn. baity first movie, kiss at the end of the second and established relationship by the halfway mark of the third.

also when rey eventually joins the light in the beginning she refuses to talk to ben (cause of romantic drama i havent thought of yet but centres around some sort or betrayal in the second movie) or finn (because hes her narrative foil and slow burn best friend forever) so her first friend is poe and she kind of follows him around in her first few months before she eventually bonds with finn 4eva. her poe shadowing has lots of cute friend moments where they fly together and he tries to talk her down about finn and the ben drama but also more importantly it foreshadows her leadership ability and tactical mind as she gives him advice and aids him with the rebellion behind the scenes (also leads to leia taking rey under her wing probably because poe is her surrogate son and mirror) which will eventually lead to her and poe leading the republic together because in my mind rey is a jedi but actively a member of republic government because ben can’t do politics and finn won’t but shes great at it so she’d be a perfect jedi liason and vice president to poe. meanwhile finn and ben lead the jedi. finn as a knight travelling across the galaxy and ben as a teacher. (luke is happy in retirement rn on mandalore but leia is still probably an advisor in the republic because retirement is definitely not for her) and everyone is happy the end. force ghost han solo is clapping.

[stealingpotatoes]

last 4 jedi au asks!

got a fair few last 4 jedi asks so theyre getting their own askpost!!!!! all below cut:

i think cal's trying to smooth things over with:

anon dude this is perfect this is exactly them. 10/10 you're getting an A* in last 4 jedi class i'm in awe at how accurate you got it

VERY GOOD QUESTION!!!! i think it's difficult to convince Din to wear anything that isn't his really basic flightsuit armour and cape. it was hard enough trying to get him to wear a cape more worthy of the Mand'alor nobody's pushing their luck w a poncho

rey would ABSOLUTELY wear a poncho but ben is too emo you're right. it doesnt fit his gothgirl aesthetic

cal is BABY!!!!! the babiest!!!! yes im aware he's a fully grown 23yo man in JS and he has facial hair n stuff but. he's still baby. very fair mistake to make

@a-rebellious-waffle HUGE fan of nontraditional lightsaber combat class, spread the gunsaber propaganda my boys!!! but DAMN this is so indepth omg!!!!!!!!! you have all the fancy lightsaber form names n stuff!!!!!!!! this is so impressive omg!!

@just-prime LMAO you know what go merrin. keeping the jedi safe as she should!!! i don't think anyone should let a skywalker have nightsister magic, they're already half eldritch beings having magic would just ruin the safety of the galaxy loll

[gremlitsspoon]

just thinking thoughts about how getting force-electrocuted would just completely fuck up ones body, nerves getting fried, muscles not quite working the way they once did, and how that might affect hearing

afterwords, when everyone is getting checked over by medical, they do what they can to help luke's muscles and body but they overlook his hearing because he can kind of get a sense of what they're saying through the force on top of lip reading. so his damaged hearing slips through the cracks for other, more life threatening cases. and luke just brushes it off thinking its just something that'll wear off

edit: i have a fic up about this now, its on my profile >:)

but 5 years later it still hasn't, if anything its gotten worse but he's so busy with rebuilding and fighting off remnants of the empire that he just cant find time to go through a ton of hearing tests so he just makes do with using the force and lipreading. it also adds to his mysterious jedi persona and gets people to leave him alone which, after everything, is what he wants. r2 isnt a problem cuz hes loud and makes sure luke is looking at him when hes talking so he doesnt really know how bad it is (r2 is also a vault of personal secrets so even if he knew how bad it was he'd say nothing)

then din happens and he cant lipread him and he also cant get a good fix on what the hell he wants through the force cuz the man is like a force dead-zone. luke does well enough with small sentences and such, enough to do small talk with minimal stumbling but then din starts coming to yavin to see grogu and starts spending time there and thats when luke realizes he's screwed himself.

because now, when theres nothing life threatening happening and din's emotions are quiet, theres nothing spilling through the cracks to latch onto. and the man speaks quiet enough as-is so luke is floundering. he just ends up realizing "oh shit my hearing is really fucked, what do i do? i cant keep this up cuz im giving him the wrong impression and i want to be nice because he's been nothing but nice"

finally one day luke is sitting working on a piece of something for r2 and din walks up behind him and calls his name a few times with no response so he taps luke and startles the bejeezus out of him, which confuses din cuz like... he wasnt being quiet, he stepped on a branch and was telling r2 to go away.

so luke comes clean after a moment and din's like "well, i know tusken sign if that would help" but luke doesnt know any. so din starts teaching him tusken sign after grogu's lessons

and because im a sucker for the parties, theres a big party for the new republic and luke brings din because he cant go alone and leia wants to meet him. through the whole party luke is making do with lip reading and the force, and din is talking to leia when she asks din something about how grogu's training is going and din turns to luke and taps his shoulder and starts signing and luke responds then translates to leia what he said and leia's just like "uh. why are you signing?" and luke freezes because he did not think that through and din covers for him making some excuse about how he didnt know if it was ok to talk jedi training in public which leia half buys because she knows her brother but its also not a bad reason especially for a large public gathering.

so she's suspicious but buys it and they make it through the rest of the party alright and get back to yavin and thats as far as i've thought rn but oooh the thoughts be thinking

[merrysithmas]

YOU CANT TELL ME LUKE SKYWALKER DOESNT KNOW WHO TARRE VIZSLA IS AND IF HE DOESNT HOW GRATEFUL HED BE FROM BEING ALLOWED THIS KNOWLEDGE FROM DIN (OR THE ARMORER) AND HOW INPORTANT TARRE'S EXISTENCE IS TO GROGU'S FUTURE AS AN ADULT AND what grogu's unavoidable RELATIONSHIP will be TO THE NEW JEDI ORDER AS either a one-day STUDENT, outside MENTOR, or simply the only other person who knew mf luke skywalker and had any connection at all to the Order in the Republic era AFTER DIN'S AND LUKE'S DEATHS!!!!

[kraviolis]

there's absolutely no way bo-katan is actual the "bad guy" of season 3. she's not gonna try to kill din for the darksaber. she's angry and mean towards din not just bcus he won the darksaber, but also because he's the mand'alor but he knows nothing of mandalore or the history of mandalorians. he didnt even know what the darksaber was, or what jedi were.

shes blaming din for this because shes angry and deeply hurt and has no one else to blame. the new mandalorians? all dead. the empire? nothing but scraps. the jedi? long gone. once moff gideon was secured and put in prison, she had no one else to take her anger and grief over losing her entire planet out on. din has done wrong in her eyes and this is why shes being mean to him, but that DOESNT mean she wants to kill him.

see, bo-katan doesnt want to challenge din to the darksaber. at least not immediately. the fact that he's willing to help her rebuild mandalore means that he's an ally and an asset to her. shes pretty low on those! shes not gonna give him up just for some petty power play. she's smarter than that.

this is going to be bo-katan putting din through a 'make it or break it' ordeal. she's going to do everything in her power to make him into a good leader for mandalore or she will break him. either he's strong enough to lead their people, or she gets the darksaber back anyways. she's not happy about the situation but she's not going to purposefully fracture and widen the divide between her people even further.

you HAVE to remember that bo-katan is more like satine than she even realizes. she's very capable of putting her personal feelings towards someone aside for the sake of mandalore. she did it for maul up until maul killed pre vizsla and took the throne-- but at that point, he was a threat to her people, so she fought back. she reconnected with satine and korkie, her family that she cast aside, only because she knew they were her best hope for saving mandalore. bo literally asked the jedi and the clones for help retaking mandalore from maul even though we know she heavily dislikes both groups.

bo-katan kryze always and forever will put mandalore first. before herself, her family, her feelings. she may have done a lot of wrong in the past, but she did it because its what she thought was best for mandalore. and she's definitely learned from her actions, because those mistakes cost her everything.

[hinderr]

I need to be sedated

Picture this. A) a bobf where boba fett appears in every episode. Enticing? Great

Now. Season 3. Grogu is still with luke skywalker. Din Djarin is. Alone. He tries not to be. He stays with Fett's gotra. He's part of Fett's gotra

But its not Grogu

Din cant handle it. Restlessness. He needs to be doing something. He hunts. And hunts. And hunts. The darksaber hurts him more often than not. The armourer casts him out. Paz calls him an apostate. Din Djarin knows to do only one thing reliably and its (not be a mandalorian, not protect his son, not protect his creed) to hunt

So he hunts. He hunts, and you know something is wrong. Obviously its wrong. Din is killing people he can bring warm. He's short and cold and an asshole. And then hes alone and you see him grieve

And then something. Changes. Some big turning point (and maybe din finds that little silver ball again) and suddenly hey. The jedi is only one person. And skywalker doesnt know grogu like he does. And din has to give the ball back. And he promised grogu they'll see each other again and din has to see his son right now or else he'll go mad and kill someone and get himself killed-

So he goes. He hunts. For grogu. To find grogu. And something settles. You see glimpses of old din. Kind din. Heart of gold din

And then he gets to the academy. Its dark. Grogu is asleep when din climbs through the window. And he stirs when din picks him up and he lights up like christmas lights and-

Obviously this is the correct choice

Grogu doesnt cry when din takes him aboard the new ship. But he does when he realises that master skywalker isnt there. Isnt going to be there. And they werent coming back. And grogu was happy there and he was safe and din knows all of this but (what about him! He wasnt happy! He was miserable!) Grogu's place is with him as a foundling this is the way-

And din tells himself. Grogu is a child. He doesnt understand. They have to stick together. Where he goes I go. Clan of two. Grogu doesnt understand

But grogu understands

And he doesnt shied away from din. Never. Never. Thats his father. Thats still his father

But you can see. So clearly. In that 'show dont tell' way the show had been praised for so many times before. That theyve both changed

(Meanwhile luke skywalker finds his first and only pupil missing. Wrath is not the way of the old jedi. Luke is not of the old jedi way)

And to make all of this. Worse. Is that it Couldve been had. If youd only wait till season 3 for the reunion

[roguone]

does luke even know what a mandalorian is? or is he just like “wow these guys all look like boba fett huh”

[keldabebe]

Obviously all DinLuke dynamics are fantastic and valid but my personal favourite is

Din pining and agonizing over how to impress Thee Luke Skywalker, the man the myth the legend

Meanwhile Luke is frantically posting on space Yahoo Answers "how to hide your massive trauma long enough for the hot single dad next door to fall in love with you?"

[help-i-need-a-cool-username]

As much as I really want Sabine or another mandalorian character we already know to appear in The Mandalorian i was just hit with the realization that after that episode when i go to read fanfic it most likely would be with a made up backstory or personality because the fanfic writers would either not know about Star Wars Rebels or refuse to watch it on the basis of it being a cartoon

[planet4546b]

accidentally thought of counter/weight while ive spent the last week exclusively watching rebels. and theres somethig happening in my brain.

[softieskywalker]

this is so confusing (ONCE AGAIN) cuz maybe din and grogu are going back to luke cuz din doesnt know shit about why grogu showed up just like that all alone on tatooine and they travel back to the jedi school??? i mean he should be questioning himself why did luke let the kid go or something? am i being too rational for star wars at this point?💀

i mean that's what I'm picturing too but it's so stupid?????? what even is star wars anymore man.

[ahsokastars]

thoughts on the bobf finale

i’m gonna put this under a read more:

while i did enjoy this episode more than i thought i would, i still really think the din/grogu/luke stuff shouldve been left to the start of mando s3, and i think cramming it into tbobf did both storylines -- boba’s and din/grogu’s --  a real disservice. 

of course i wanted din and grogu to be reunited, but having moved past the grogu going to become a jedi thing so quickly makes it feel like what was even the point of ending season 2 of the mandalorian like that. i feel like the narrative wouldve had time to deal more with grogu’s trauma from surviving order 66 and having to keep his powers hidden for like 20 years and maybe finding a new way of being a jedi or being both jedi and mandalorian? and din figuring out what it means to him to be a mandalorian. 

and having luke not even show up to take grogu back and just sending r2 to do it? like did they run out of budget for cgi luke? and r2 just left without making sure grogu went back to din? and r2 didnt even have like a holonote from luke like “here’s your kid back”? 

on the boba fett side of tbobf, -- i feel like i shouldnt even have to say that, since it’s the book of BOBA FETT -- but cad bane shouldve been introduced earlier in the show, and there should have been more about cad bane and boba’s relationship (unaired tcw arc where are youuuu). it wouldve made their final confrontation and cad bane’s death so much more meaningful and impactful. i feel like i had to mentally fill in the gaps as a sw dweeb who’s seen tcw and knows about the missing tcw arc with cad and boba (like would people generally even know cad bane knew jango and boba without knowing about that, or do the sw writers just assume people watching think all bounty hunters know each other?). also, i think focusing more on boba and cad bane’s past could’ve paralleled boba’s past as a bounty hunter with what he’s trying to do now.

and speaking of what he’s trying to do now, i feel like the ending of the finale and tbobf as a whole couldve benefitted from having boba like...connect with the community more (connect feels like i’m trying to write a marketing piece for work or some shit, but you know what i mean). i know din has a history with cobb vanth and the people of freetown and all that, but i think it wouldve been more meaningful for boba’s storyline (since it is his show) to form a relationship with freetown and gain their trust not because he’s not pyke and doesnt want spice on the planet (or at least not only), but because they trust him as boba and as a person to run things. also, it felt like to me at the ending that boba was more like a new mayor than a crime lord per se, if that makes sense. and i think that wouldve been more ....fulfilling? as a viewer if we couldve seen that being developed in more of a way throughout the episodes.

also, its honestly wild to me that they sidelined boba for a good chunk of his own show. despite not having all that much screen time, boba fett is still a popular character, and has been for a long time. yet it feels like disney mostly used tbobf as a mandalorian season 2.5/way to get grogu and din back together before the start of mando s3, and to sideline such a long-time popular star wars character in such a short show...like what. but i guess disney doesnt mind screwing with luke skywalker, so maybe i shouldnt be surprised. 

all this being said, i did love boba and din together, and din and grogu together. and i also liked peli and the mayor’s -- i guess former mayor’s -- majordomo together? but because the storyline split off for a bit in such a short series, i feel like a good chunk of the finale was just fun action, and not as impactful and fulfilling to watch as an audience member as it could have been. i didnt feel the build up i needed to feel for a finale and for the stakes to feel as high as they should have felt. 

there’s things in here that i didnt touch on, and this is more just like a rambling of initial thoughts than a researched and edited essay, but i’m happy to talk with anyone if they wanna talk about the finale or about tbobf in general. or share posts or interviews that talk more about this stuff.

[barissoffee]

Time for me to put on the biggest amount of clown makeup ever. Since we're seeing a lot of stuff that wasnt in the trailers. What if...

They try to look for other jedi (our boy) since Ahsoka doesnt consider herself one

Din might have to get a new ship with everything that's happening to it and how it's now practically being held together with paperclips and rubber bands

Bo Katan and Boba come back later

dave is really making us put the clown make-up on huh I definitely believe that Boba will come back later on and also Bo-katan who’s trying to get her darksaber back so maybe Mando and her team up in the finale, or maybe next season who knows, and fight moff gideon to get the darksaber back. Now with Ahsoka it’s hard to tell cause like you said in rebels she said shes not a jedi anymore and the last time we saw her she was with sabine trying to find ezra so if ahsoka is on this planet then HOPEFULLY that means she and sabine found ezra and now ahsoka is enjoying retirement and even if mando shows up with the child theres no guarantee she will take him so I think if we do meet ahsoka, mando will try to give the child to her but she refuses cause she’s not a jedi and then sends mando to some other planet with another jedi master luke skywalker who will take the child but I could very well be clowning also Din’s ship is one shot away from falling apart that boy needs some upgrades 

[jyndor]

Love how everyone is being ignorant to the timeline. It wouldnt make sense for Ezra to show up. Kylo Ren/Ben isnt born yet or is a baby, which this one is driving me the most crazy, but no Kylo didnt/doesnt kill Baby Grogu. And so many ppl think the boba fett series the next season but it isnt. This isnt aimed at you its just. Did anyone pay attention?

thank you for being 1000% correct anon

except iirc ben was born in 5 ABY so technically he's a kiddo but idc you're still right lol

also the boba thing lmfao like I understand the confusion because like "the book of boba fett" and the episodes are called chapters but no! it's clearly a spinoff of some kind, whether it's taika waititi's movie or a miniseries idk and idc but I know that they're not building up to din aragorning the shit out of mandalore in order to cut to boba fett? lol come onnn fandom this is why we cannot have nice things

but the biggest maggot brained take I've seen is what you're talking about wrt grogu being killed by kylo offscreen? no lol no. first off, he's clearly just going to train and then come back to his papa. I mean they have din promising to see him again so??? that wasn't the end of the father/son show. I honestly think it's like, if someone else trained grogu then there wouldn't be this many shit takes lol js

GUYS YODITO IS THEIR CASH COW THEY ARE NOT GONNA YEET HIM FROM THE SHOW HE IS GONNA COME BACK

I haven't seen a lot of ezra fans' takes on the ending since I don't follow a lot of ezra fans. tbh I don't care much about ezra. I like him, he's cool and I like what he brings to the story, but I would never call myself a fan. I get hoping that your fave will show up, I am after all a mara fan and uh wishful thinking has been my modus operandi since disney bought lucasfilm lol. but it just doesn't make any sense for ezra to show up now. first off he's gonna show up in the ahsoka show. two, I hate to say it but he's not luke, he hasn't been tasked with rebuilding the jedi order by fucking yoda.

but I think it's a lot of people who wanted the mandalorian to be totally separated from the main stories and... I get that. that's how the anthologies were supposed to go (and only rogue one held to that).

I don't agree but I understand why this season might have felt like too much "fan service" to people who wanted it to be about din and grogu.

but we went into the show without knowing there would even be a baby yoda. like that was just a pleasant surprise.

except fan service is not the same thing as using popular characters. fan service is just using them without any concern for how they work into the story. every character who shows up makes sense in the narrative - bo katan is a mandalorian and knows ahsoka tano. she also expands din's view of what mandalorians are like (for better or for worse). boba fett is not a character I cared about at all until the show tied him in. boba helps din in very much the same way - he learns about different ways mandalorians exist.

these two characters give din more context about his history and yes also help him save the baby. now my theory is that this is kind of like an aragorn situation - that din will go from a bounty hunter to a ruler who is humble and righteous (bo katan is a weird faramir tho).

ahsoka is the only person alive that we know of who trained to be a jedi during the republic, so grogu might have even recognized her.

and I've already talked about why luke has to be the one to train grogu and why I'm so glad the show went in that direction because I honestly didn't think they would.

using these characters doesn't make the galaxy smaller in my opinion. it expands the galaxy of our lead character, din djarin. I think if the show weren't so short or like if the episodes were a bit longer, this might have bothered people a bit less. now I agree that it's also about making disney money with spinoffs, but it works in the story.

the only people who I can understand not liking luke training grogu are kylo ren stans because it sure does suck to see everyone's favorite baby get threatened by their fascist fuckboy lol (even though grogu will not be training by then).