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scrapyardboyfriends · 6 months
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okay so if Danny got the call at the beginning of the year about Emmerdale then he definitely knew it was coming by the time he met up with Ryan...
I mean frankly I didn't want either of them back until there were competent people in charge but if we must have Aaron, then it would be nice to get Robert back too...
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sugdenlovesdingle · 10 months
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Jane Hudson needs to go. I really won’t understand ITV keeping her after the humiliation of getting nothing at the British soap award. I believe an executive producer can only survive one slump. The writing did get better with Marlon’s stroke after being atrocious ever since the last year of Robron and Ryan Hawley and Danny Miller departure. However this past year has been awful, they doomed so many characters and made them hated by the viewers which caused the actors to immediately leave when their contract was up (Marcus and Naomi). I think they didn’t appreciate the actor of Marcus leaving with the way his departure was introduced, I heard the more awful the departure is, the more it means the producers didn’t like the actor’s leaving and to get revenge, they are writing the worst ending. You can see they tried to make Paddy depression and attempt to take his life to get awards buzz, because they hoped that they would get the same reaction than Marlon’s stroke. Dominic Brunt is a fantastic actor but there’s nothing he could do with non-existent writing of his storyline. I felt it barely lasted 5 episodes… he disappeared, was found by Marlon and Chas, was being looked after, they had the all-male episode and then he went to the reunion and that’s it, storyline over. And then the ongoing storyline that nobody cares about, I mean, can’t they read the room, Chloe is really not liked, Mac had a promising start but now people had enough with him and everyone is waiting for Charity to get back with Vanessa. Let’s not start with Wendy and Liam, they are really trying to group characters with no attach to anyone together. Most importantly, where the hell are Arthur and Marshall, it’s been a month and we got nothing since they got together, it was one of the sole storyline that attracted viewers attention recently.
I seriously believe that Jane Hudson and all of the people responsible for Emmerdale sinking to the lowest they had ever been. I know they pride themselves in having three women in charge but I am sorry but for what, every female character end up pregnant, they are making them being everybody’s girl and honestly we don’t talk enough about it but the influx of pretty boys who also can’t act has exploded since she became the executive producer. At some point, it seem really unprofessional from her. When was the last time an Abercrombie and Fich model was not introduced as a new character ? Where are the new families or the relatable characters ? The upcoming storyline look atrocious, nobody knows how to do a whodunnit anymore, it’s always about characters that no one care about.
wow tell me how you really feel anon 😉
I'm not sure Jane is the only problem at emmerdale at the moment... but yeah - something's gotta change.
Marlon's stroke was really well done but they can't keep using that for the awards. Paddy's depression and attempted suicide were horrendous. Paddy is depressed about his wife cheating on him and planning to take his daughter away from him when running away with the other guy, and Chas made it all about her. SHE had to be with Eve, SHE felt sorry for herself because Paddy wanted a divorce, SHE went crying to Caleb when The Family didn't want to talk to her... and the all male episode? I don't even remember it... it was a whole load of nothing.
I adored Mack when he was first introduced - his happy go lucky nature, the flirty banter with Aaron, and in the beginning with Charity... but then they flicked a switch and he was suddenly mister domestic with Charity... and now he's all about the baby and Chloe... I mean... Chloe has as much personality as that baby? She was introduced as the weird surrogate daughter for Kerry and the rich girl friend for Sarah who didn't know the meaning of the word boundaries. Then she slept with Noah, Nate, and then suddenly Mack and they shoved a baby at her. And the other young mothers in the village? 0 interaction apart from Amy every now and then to tell her "you're his mam". Why can't she talk to Amelia about being a young (single? I don't remember if Noah and Amelia ever got back together) mother, or Vic who supposedly lives in the same house?
and Amy and Matty are ENGAGED yet their relationship gets 0 focus. It's all about Chloe and the baby and Matty is allowed to walk around in the Hop a bit and sort of talk about/with his mother every now and then. I saw an insta post from Ash earlier that he's been on the show for FIVE YEARS... but after his initial introduction/moira accepting him and the five minute toxic masculinity story, they've done nothing with Matty. Even the relationship with Amy gets no focus - their engagement was the first time they even kissed on screen! (i know they got together during the first covid lockdown/social distancing but there were work arounds for that - camera trickery, real life partners as stand ins, etc) In this time where trans people are being attacked (either physically or via legislation) emmerdale could choose to show a trans man in a loving relationship preparing for his upcoming marriage to his long term girlfriend... but they do... everything but.
As for the Caleb stuff - I doubt he actually dies. They made such a show of getting Will Ash on board, I don't think they're going to kill Caleb off just like that and let Kim just "win". Nicky will probably be a suspect, Kim, Will, the entire dingle fam... and watch it be that Adrian guy he introduced last night.
Sigh.
There is so much potential with these characters, and even with the storylines they choose to run... but they only run them into the ground. Characters and actors who vibe well together (Naomi and Marlon, Marcus and Noah) just never interact after one or two scenes... and Ethan is just... nowhere to be found? When his grandmother (who he supposedly knows) just rocked up in the village? He's a lawyer, couldn't he have helped her with her housing situation?? Where's emile? Is he still on the show or has he left too?
Just... hire me emmerdale, I have ideas!
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scrapyardboyfriends · 6 months
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I don't really care what they tell us with this whole mafia nonsense. I'm just going to assume that Aaron wants to get himself thrown in prison to be with his husband cause being with Robert is the last time his life made sense.
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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I'm wondering if this could instead be a build-up to a Seb return, not necessarily Robert. Because we've also had multiple scenes of him doting on Eve, plus Danny is a father now and the producers are just not that creative. And for a 32 yr old soap character, I feel like kids is the obvious narrative direction. Perhaps the Rob reminders are to reinforce Aaron's character motive if he takes Seb in. Obviously, it could be a return for both, but I feel like Rober is not the only possibility.
I mean a Seb return would be better than nothing and certainly something I've advocated for in the past for him. And I've definitely noticed some of the kid focus with him since he's been back.
But there have just been too many Robert mentions now plus the "next chapter" meet up and the "I'll just have to talk him round" comment that it feels like it has to be Robert first and then Seb. I mean we'll see where it continues to go but I feel like if it were just a Seb thing, there would be more leading up to that than there has been. But who knows.
Regarding Robert though, I still feel like he's just going to show up. I keep seeing people theorize how people are going to reach out to Robert for Aaron etc and I just cannot fathom that happening. Or really any of this stuff currently going on leading up to a Robert return. I just feel like they're setting the stage for him to just appear one day and they'll handle the "hows" and the "whys" after.
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scrapyardboyfriends · 4 months
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So I haven't watch the show for like the last three weeks but I just sort of watched today's episode (fast forwarded through a lot of it) and was reminded why I haven't been watching.
It's such garbage. It's barely even watchable.
That whole night out thing was super painful to watch. What even was that? And then of course they have to go and throw gay bashing in at the end. Just so Ethan can have a new darker storyline?
Also, Suni repeatedly praising Nicky's stalking skills as if he didn't literally walk in the moment he was taking the selfie? Did he teleport there after he saw it? Or was Suni taking selfies on the way there? It's so silly. Also...I like Suni well enough but he and Nicky really have no chemistry. I mean...Lewis Cope just isn't that great of an actor to begin with. They're so awkward.
Also have Suni and Ethan ever interacted before?? Of course he doesn't follow you, Suni, you two have like never had a conversation.
I could only handle so much of the David exit stuff. The whole story is just lazy and idiotic.
And really, I think I'm just too ace for the current state of the show when it comes to relationships. I mean the writer in me is pained about the absolute lack of effort put into creating these pairings. But also, I just can't remotely get invested in this Tracy and Caleb affair because where did it come from???? Were she and Nate having problems? I mean their relationship makes no sense to me either since it has no development and they reunited off screen. But weren't they supposedly happy? Maybe? And then she's just storming into the Mill to yell at him about getting Nate involved in a fight and then suddenly Caleb is kissing her? And now they're having an affair????
I know in theory people can just be into the sex but like...I need more to go on here. I don't get it. What do they see in each other? What are they getting out of this? What is Tracy not getting from Nate that she's somehow getting from Caleb??? I know the reality is that the producers haven't thought any of this through and just wanted a new "sexy affair" but....
And all of their dialogue is so dumb and also very reminiscent of the Nate and Moira terrible affair. All "you know you want me, are you sure about that blah blah blah" there's absolutely ZERO substance to any of this. It's ridiculous.
Ditto for Jacob and Vic. And really Suni and Nicky too.
They are just spectacularly bad at building a relationship these days. They don't even try. Why don't they try? Why are they so incapable of being like "let's find a reason beyond plot needs for these people to want to be together"?? It's not that fucking hard!!!
Okay...rant over.
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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So Charity is going to stab Mack due to her ptsd...
They really are incapable of not just copying old storylines. Like what are they doing?!?!
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scrapyardboyfriends · 7 months
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I guess we should be thankful for the couple year reprieve but also I just really never needed to see a rape storyline on Emmerdale ever again. Then again, I'm not really watching much of it at this point but still, why is this necessary? If you're not getting pregnant, then you get a rape story and sometimes you get both at once...
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scrapyardboyfriends · 6 months
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Danny did say "our" next chapter 👀 it would be amazing if Ryan came back too and we don't have to wait at least 10 years for a Robert return
True and Danny's next chapter was clearly Emmerdale so...
I mean I'm not in any way going to get my hopes up here but I'm just saying it would be nice (aside from the current unfortunate quality of the show).
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scrapyardboyfriends · 3 months
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Sigh at ITV’s poor decisions. May he get burnt out quick trying to do both shows and need a good long break.
This was not a step in the right direction.
Also sigh about this breast cancer story for Chas. They really are only able to repeat stories aren’t they? Even if they’re their own. How did we fix Cain and Faith’s relationship? Cancer story. Ooh I have an idea how we can fix Chas and Aaron!
I hate them all. Haha.
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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If Robert comes back soon(ish) do you think he might have any scenes with Wendy? Scenes were she might actually aknowledge that she was horrible, or will it be yet more of the "Wendy was a victim to you know! Feel sorry for Wendy everyone" That is of course if Robert even makes a return at all now (or ever) I'm just saying what if.
I think I’d like to see him just ignore her entire existence because the less scenes she’s in, the better. Especially since I rarely watch the whole show these days so if he didn’t have any scenes with her, I wouldn’t have to see her at all. Haha
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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I really really want Aaron to get his little family back, and to just be done with most of the Dingles (and paddy, at least for a bit).
Like they've not helped him at all, half have made him worse, and he really deserves to just have a bit of happiness with his hubby and son, while the Dingles all are wishing they could be involved.
It might be nice but I don't think they'll go that route. I think they'll start to fix Aaron's relationships with his family first and then Robert will show up if he's showing up. I don't think we'll ever truly get the conversations we want between him and Chas. I think we've already gotten more than I ever would have thought based on his last stint. But we'll see. First, we need confirmation of Robert returning.
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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On the other hand aside from our growing excitement about a possible Robert return, some of these Robert mentions are really just exposing how repetitive they're being with their stories.
Like "hey remember the last time we had a rape story where the rapist wasn't convicted and we got revenge on him instead..."
And "hey remember the last time we had someone cheat on their spouse after a sort of but not really break up and they got their one night stand pregnant and then it resulted in them really wanting that kid and then the mother taking him away..."
of course then there was the Vic and Jacob comparison, which was frankly insulting but then again, so are the aforementioned storylines. Haha
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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IF Robert comes back (and that is a very big if) Do you think he would be trying (at some time considering Aarons current mental health) to get back together, or would he be more like the second reuion where he's more like, no I messed this up I'm setting you free to be happy. Personally I feel like the decisions is up to Aaron this time (IF it ever happens at all) Because of course we all know a reuinon will happen at some point if both are back lol
I mean I know how I would want it to go.
I'd want Aaron to be slowly putting his life back together after all this Cain and Chas stuff. And have Robert show up having gotten himself out of prison on whatever legal loophole they want to go with. Have him not want to bother Aaron because he did ruin it and set him free but have Vic make him stay because she knows how much Aaron is struggling. Aaron is predictably closed off because he's still working on being able to let people in again and he's not there yet and there'd probably be yelling. They'd have to have the fight they should have had four years ago when Robert cut him off in the first place. But Robert is also struggling post prison. Dealing with the transition, I want panic attacks. And also dealing with getting contact with Seb again and worrying he doesn't deserve it but Vic encourages him and gets Aaron to do it too. And slowly, as Aaron starts to see Robert struggling more, he starts to let himself help him and let him in again, thereby healing his own heart. And both are still tentative about starting a relationship again so there's avoidance and pining until everyone is sick of them and sets them up. And then we get our reunion.
Now, if it actually happens? I don't know which way they'd go because these people are bad storytellers. I just would hope for a least a bit of a slow burn and not just instantly putting them back together. And I'd hope they'd know Robert's character well enough to know that he would rather punish himself to make sure Aaron's happy than hurt him again and so would be tentative. Unless they did give Aaron a temporary love interest in which case it would be Alex all over again, jealousy but not feeling worthy. Plus the post prison ptsd. He'd be a mess. Haha.
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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I just want Aaron to deal with all of his trauma once and for all. I didnt (I havent gone through a tenth of what he has just saying) and it slowly sufforcates you until you just drown in it. Mine resulted in a sucidie attempt and a stint in a mental hospital. And that is exactly what I want for Aaron lol. All this time he's been "asked" to just stop feeling because "someone else needs you. Be less sad for them" I want him to just lose it and spend some time away like Andy did. Just let him heal
I'm sorry to hear about your struggles anon. I hope you're doing better now.
I'm not sure they would quite take him that far down that path again, although they do love repeating things. I feel like maybe the fight with Cain could be part of his wake up call that he needs to get some help again. He always goes back to therapy but it never seems like he sticks with it consistently. And it's clear he hasn't been in quite a while at this point.
So yes, I would like them to address his trauma and mental health again and acknowledge that he really hasn't dealt with it at all, going back to losing Robert. Because that's where people really stopped letting him feel what he needed to feel and made him bury it for their sakes.
That's really still the part of the conversation/apology I'd want him to have with/from Chas. I feel like she needs to acknowledge her role in his deteriorating mental health and not just be like "I was struggling too" etc. And I'd want it to go back to him losing Robert. She pushed him to move on instantly from that. She pushed him at Ben when Robert was brought up again. She really kind of left him to deal with Liv on his own during her alcoholic rage period. She was definitely part of the reason he left the village the first time after Ben was killed because he didn't want to deal with her smothering him and making everything about her. And obviously she pushed him away when he needed family the most after Liv was killed because she didn't want her affair to come out. So yeah, he has every right to be mad at her and push her away now, I just wish the characters and the show would acknowledge all of this to let them move on from it and not just give Chas a cancer storyline to fix the problem. Sigh
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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I think what was interesting about mention 2 is we see that Aaron's still guarded and on the defense when it comes to Robert. It's clearly still a sore point for him, and if the writers really were sure that Robert wouldn't come back, I feel they'd probably make it seem like Aaron's moved on and generally over the whole situation. For that reason, I think there's a much stronger chance that we'll see Robert in the next year or so compared to characters like Adam, because Adam's not mentioned that much and there's nothing indicating that Victoria's not over Adam (even though I'd love him to come back and them get back together hahaha).
Agreed. It technically made sense for Robert to be brought up in a conversation about "the one" but it was the way it was done that I found interesting. Like you had Robert back during the break up era telling....I forget who...that you should do whatever it took to keep that light in your life or whatever. I can't remember the exact quote but it was obvious he was talking about Aaron but in a very resigned way and giving out advice. They sort of had Aaron do that but having Vic be the one to put a name to it and tell him Robert was fine, there by bringing Robert into the present rather than talking about their relationship just in the past tense was curious. As was Aaron's reaction to it. You're right, it didn't seem like he was all moved on from it. It felt like an opening to something more.
Add to that the pause from yesterday, picking up that thread again, lends more weight to it, especially as there was no other plot but Aaron's going on there.
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 months
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The truth is there simply wasn't any other reason to bring Aaron back. If Robert returning is not part of the plan, which brings numerous storylines with him, there is no point to Aaron's return. I know people are saying it's a steady paycheck for Danny, and true, but he was so clearly bored at the end of his stint I just think they had to sell him something more than that. Also the Dryan pub date is still there as well. They are both demons and knew exactly what they were doing when they posted that pic. I was very hesitant to believe it and you could sort of excuse the other mentions away. There was no need for today's and even the most casual viewer caught the unspoken Robert in that scene.
I like that a non mention is what has us all riled up again. Haha. I'm like "yes! This proves it!". Oh dear.
I mean I definitely don't think "Angry Aaron" is what brought Danny back. Steady paycheck maybe, but he keeps saying "it's fun to play for a while" every time "Angry Aaron" is brought up and that makes me feel like he's waiting for what comes next. The "next chapter" if you will.
Now, could they actually be competent producers and carve out a new life and purpose for Aaron and actually put in the effort to set him up with friends and eventually a real new love interest with real story and not just shoving him at whatever character they happen to have lying around (Ethan), sure? But I obviously have zero faith in their ability to do that. Like I don't think there's no point to Aaron returning without Robert, it's just obviously my preference that he does eventually come with a Robert return. I mean he's been a bit of an overused character in the misery department so there's definitely less wells to draw from at this point, not that they don't love a misery fest, but he's still a long running character with a lot of history. If they wanted to build a new life for him, they could. And if they put in the work, I'd be willing to give it a try. I just think they like being lazy more and bringing back Robron would certainly allow them to rest on the history with less establishing work. I think they'd like that. And obviously so would we, win win.
And yeah, there was the "next chapter" pub meet up that is still unaccounted for in terms of what that next chapter is. And the fact that no one has shut down a Robert return. And we have these mentions. And I obviously feel like Robert and Robron elevate Aaron's character and would find the continuation of that more interesting than him starting from scratch. Although four years and more heartbreak later, it's less of a frustrating idea than in the Ben era.
Also the fact that all of this Angry Aaron stuff feels like they're biding their time and giving him something to do for a while until they get Ryan back. Because even if this cancer story reconnects him with Chas and he goes on an apology tour and gets let back in the family yet again, there's still sort of a "what now" kind of feeling. Robert is still one of the things he's lost. And yeah he can fix things with family and get a new little sister to hang out with and maybe make a friend in Mack or Ethan or Billy etc but he's decided he's done with all forms of love in general because of losing Liv and everything else and that this is the way he won't get hurt, which is bullshit as we know. But I feel like the last part of the equation is a love interest and repairing his relationship with Robert would certainly provide a good long running story to do that.
It would also generate a lot of hype and they love nothing more than hype these days.
So anyway...we all want it. I just hope we actually get it.
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