#ex Muslim

[crownspeaksblog]

Marriage in general is fucked in the middle east..

I hate hate HATE living in a country where girls being married off at 15 is seen as something to be envious of.. is seen as something to be admired for..for fuck sakes! That's a fucking child!! I remember a classmate talking about i think a cousin of hers who's 15 who's married to a 29/30 year old man and how MUCH he LOVES her and how everyday he does her FUCKING HAIR FOR FUCKING SCHOOL!!!!

i saw a video of a 26 year old mother selling food on the street to make money and the top comment on that video was a man (sincerely) offering to marry her and he had like 100 replies of people asking him if he did it already and praising him for it..

And you know what's annoying is when i try to point out how fucked up those things are.. I'm almost always in the minority, I'm almost always argued against and people try to justify something like this by being like "this is our culture"....

fuck this culture and religion because you know damn well this shit is rooted in religion.. girls married off when they hit puberty to men twice their age is seen as an accomplishment.. men being encouraged to grace widows and divorced women with their kindness and marry them like they're broken or used (even if it meant getting a second, third or a fourth wife)...

And i know to most people reading this shit it sounds like I'm making it up but I'm not and you have no idea how much i wish i was..

[apostateoverrubies]

It's funny how certain religious people act like accepting LGBTQ rights will lead to paedophilia being normalized when they've already let that shit slide for centuries.

Then again, what else do you expect from people who value religion over the rights of children?

Don't let them trick you into thinking they care.

[decomposingpoet]

Supporting ex-muslims who are trying to process their religious Islamic trauma is not fucking racist or islamophobic. Some of y'all will literally dismiss a hurt and isolated person before admitting that Christianity is not the only religion capable of harm and other religions can also have fucked up shit in it. How are you gonna give love to yourself and other ex-christians in their journeys out of purity culture, shame, and fear but then turn around and call ex-muslims "islamophobic" for doing the same shit? I'm begging you to have a drop of empathy and stop being so two-faced

[goose-onthe-loose]

Happy Tears

[apostate-in-an-alcove]

"They make being ex Christian/Muslim their whole personality 😒." Good for them! Deconstructing and leaving your religion is difficult to do, they should be proud for making that choice and embarking on that journey.

[holy-false]

Religious conservatives love talking about trans people “mutilating their genitals” and then go off to circumcise their children without their consent 😇

[the-jesus-pill]

Friendly reminder you don't have to prove your trauma to anyone.

Not to anyone online or in real life, not to those who are genuinely curious or those who want to debate you. Not to religious leaders, former friends, parents, siblings or doctors.

How much you share and who you share it with is your own business.

[your-mom-friend]

I think maybe the saddest thing about extremely religious people is that they genuinely believe that you’ll go to hell if you don’t accept their Lord. I mean this mostly about Muslims, I can’t speak much for Christianity

I was raised in a Muslim country. In the schools there all Muslim students had to attend Islamic studies classes, while the non-Muslim students had moral science classes.

Aside from Islamic history and theology, one of the first things that I was taught that really stuck to me, was that people who rejected the word of Allah would be sent to Jahannam (Hell). Those who were ignorant of the True Religion would be spared but anyone who had heard the Truth of Allah and didn’t accept it? They would go to hell. My teacher even said that in this day and age, with access to the internet, no one has the excuse of being ignorant now.

It terrified me. What about my friends? My school had Hindus and Christian galore. What about them? They were good people. Were they going to hell? Couldn’t I help them? One of my other Muslim friends actually started sobbing about it. “Rem.. I don’t- I don’t want my friends to go to Hell, Rem”

We were Seven. Years. Old.

No kid deserves that

And as I’ve grown older I’ve only seen more of it. And I feel heartbroken. These are people that truly believe in their faith and within that belief they’re taking the most moral action they are capable of taking. They don’t want people to go to hell. They want people to go to heaven. They are so fearful of their Lord that they’re willing to be the bad guy in this life to see you next to them in Jannah (Heaven). They believe that. With their entire hearts and it crushes me every single time.

I think about it every time my mother talks about modesty. I think about it every time my father reminds me about prayer. Everytime one of the elder relatives reminds us kids to read the Quran.

I think about it every time I remember that I told my sister that I was terrified that one day she wouldn’t keep my sexuality a secret because she believed it would be the morally correct thing to tell my parents and she couldn’t look at me and say that it wouldn’t happen.

And I’m never going to be able to hate them for it, because I’ll know in my heart that they’re doing what they’re doing with the best of intentions even if it fucking kills me and every damn time I think about it it makes me burst into tears

[apostateoverrubies]

Children don't need religion to develop good morals. I'd argue that certain religions get in the way of that because they encourage you to do things because a deity approves and it will lead to you having a good afterlife or whatever. And I don't know about you but I find that to be self-serving.

Not to mention, the fact that religion can advocate for immoral things.

Let's just teach children to be good just because.

[wathanism]

it's so insane to me that a lot of western feminists can understand the nuances of "yes wearing makeup is a personal choice that women make but that choice doesn't exist in a vacuum and it's critical to examine the external pressures that push women into making that choice, and critiquing those external pressures is not shaming any women for any choices they make but rather is directed towards dismantling the system that enforces that pressure," but somehow they're incapable of talking about hijabs with any level of nuance. either hijabs are the greatest example of women's suffering and thus the liberated whites must criminalize it and ban it from all public spaces to ensure those sad pathetic little arab women are free from the big bad evil arab men OR hijabs are a completely 100% personal choice that has only ever empowered every single woman who has ever worn one and they've never been used to hurt any woman ever in the history of all of islam.

PS: terfs don't breathe in my direction or better yet don't breathe at all

[lesorus]

it's not that white liberal feminists truly believed the hijab is honorable, empowering, and a choice, it's just that they care more about "political correctness" than women's rights

Not only the hijab represents purity culture for the middle eastern/muslim woman but it clearly sexualizes every inch of a woman's body, contrary to popular belief. It imposes that unless a woman is covered, she is inherently sexual. And not just her hair, her arms and her legs, in some cases her feet, her face, her hands, and even her eyes. Even the outline of her body has to be concealed because there is always a man who will find it enticing, and this from the ripe age of 9. No matter how inconvenient it is. Not to forget, women are always to some degree pressured if not forced into this "choice" lest they bring shame to their family. How many arab girls have grown up hearing "You can do whatever you want, just keep a hijab on your head."? How many girls have been scolded, threatened, hit, because they were merely talking to a boy? How many girls were forbidden to go to school, to go out of the house until they abandoned their "westernized ideas" and started "dressing decently"? And how many were killed, charged with prostitution, stoned for not not wearing it?

Now, you want to convince me that libfems, the same group that wants to "free the nipple", thought the hijab was empowering for the last decade? Hell nah.

They just don't care. They don't care because they view middle eastern, brown, and Muslim women as lesser. Our suffering and our objectification are nothing compared to their inconvenience. So why would they even think about it? Why would they upset conservative muslim men and women ? They have been overlooking every honor killing for years now to not make muslims look bad.

Today it's trendy to oppose forced hijab, tomorrow, they'll forget about us.

[goose-onthe-loose]

I think we all need to stop for a second and appreciate how incredibly exhilarating it is to leave a high-demand religion. Not to romanticize the experience-- I know first-hand how much fear, pain, loss, and exhaustion it entails-- but there comes a point when you emerge from the woods, stumbling past the treeline, and find yourself looking up in awe at the bright, blazing sun.

Have you ever felt this warmth before? Or been surrounded by so much open space?

[house-rat]

When the religious trauma is so normalized to you that you don’t realize how fucked “the women had to enter through a side door and were in the basement” is until you say it out loud to someone else <3

[apostate-in-an-alcove]

Religious and secular people alike will talk a lot of talk about how they feel sympathy for people with religious trauma and suppprt us but as soon as one as us has the audacity to display one of the more negative and uglier symptoms of religious trauma, we get completely demonized, tone policed and degraded for it. The expectation that people with religious trauma have to be constantly palpable to outside observers, especially religious ones, is harmful and unhelpful and only serves to cater to the feelings of the very people who would rather silence us.

[holy-false]

I think it’s weird how there’s a double standard when it comes to atheists. So if i tell a religious person that i’m atheist, they’ll start interrogating me about my life. They would just assume that my atheism is because of some trauma that happened to me.

And then they would assume that atheists know everything about the universe. They would show you a phenomenon or whatever and tell you to explain it. And if you don’t know, they’ll think it’s a “gotcha” moment. Yet they allow it when people who identify with their religion barely know anything about it.

Like you can’t expect an atheist to debate with you anytime. We’re not omnipotent. We don’t know every single thing about the world, just like they don’t know every single thing about their religion. They’re holding us on a higher standard. And the reason is obvious.