#f1 wolfdog

[bones-n-bookles]

Photos from Охотничьи Лайки (Hunting Laiki) by А. Т. Войлочников (A. T. Voylochnikov) and С. Д. Войлочникова (S. D. Voylochnikova).

Top image is a Greenland Dog

Bottom image is an F1 Wolf x West Siberian Laika hybrid. The second photo is of who I believe to be the same animal from the laikirus (dot) ru database. Not the exact same image and no name or registration number in the book so not 100% sure but it sure looks similar. The laikirus animal, Ulka, was born to a wild taken siberian wolf named Naida, and a pure dog WSL. Ulka was bred to pure WSL males, and as far as i can tell so were the continuing offspring. I haven't been able to find where her line ends so far, for all I know there are living descendants of her now. She was born to the ВНИИОЗ (VHIIOZ, still haven't looked up what thats an abbreviation for) kennel as part of an experiment for the viability of WSL x Wolf hunting dogs.

I'm only able to roughly translate russian currently so *please* correct me if I make any errors on these!

[estecore]

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[lycanm00n]

☆ The scent of the forest lingers on the werewolf.. ☆

welcome to my corner of the forest ! i'm pantheon/theo/eli, a 20y/o werewolf nonhuman & holothere from europe. i'm transmasc, and use exclusively he/him pronouns. engaged to the most amazing woman.

Last Updated - 06/22/24

i was born in a small village by the coast. i've spent my whole life in forests and wandering by the sea, knowing that i'm a canine though i didn't have a word for how i felt until I discovered the community in 2019. years have gone by since, and i'm more connected to my therianthropy & nonhumanity than ever before.

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[polyhexian]

Sometimes I like to think of Hunter as one of those Cats raised by dogs that barks. Like he’s doing his best but it’s just a little jarring for people who don’t know what’s up

Udusjdjf

That's also very good

I've always attached wolfdog imagery to hunter as much as I do jasper. Like jasper is an F1 wolfdog, he's half and half, which presents almost entirely as a wolf, but... Different. His instincts are all wrong and pulled in conflicting directions, he's far too big and strong and wild to be totally safe around dogs, but he's still not a wolf. He's sort of... Permanently othered by the circumstances of his creation. Almost exclusively wolfdogs come from intentional breeding, which is.. unfair to the animals that are created.

Hunter is like... An F3. F4 even. He is much much closer to a dog than a wolf. But it's still there. He's still bigger than the other dogs, he still has conflicting instincts that confuse and distress him. He's never going to be quite the same as those around him, even if he can pass as identical sometimes.

If they're all cats tho he is definitely a cat raised by huskies. Jasper is a fucking bobcat

[the-adventures-of-dave]

I remember seeing someone give their ordinary domestic longhair one of those tests, and the results said "15% wildcat/hybrid" which is so blatantly wrong it's kinda funny... but also concerning tbh given the fact F1-F4 hybrids are illegal in many jurisdictions, there's already been precedents of mislabeled "wolfdog" huskies/shepherds being seized so let's not risk starting that with cats too

I saw a situation in a local Facebook group similar to what you described. Someone adopted a shelter tabby and put “savannah cat” / “serval hybrid” on all their cat’s documents. Didn’t have any problems until they tried to move to Australia, where importing Savannahs and other hybrids is illegal. When they moved they ended up having to rehome their cat because of the false claims on their papers. A very sad and avoidable situation.

[wilderun]

Nashoba, an F1 75% wolf, 25% Norwegian Elkhound cross. He was from Casa Lobo, and was the result of a cross between an F1 50% Alaskan Interior Wolf/AKC Norwegian Elkhound mix sire produced by Gabe Davidson of the Davidson Fur Farm, and an Eastern Timber Wolf dam. He is behind some modern wolfdog lines today, including the widespread Southern Breeze line.

[warcrimesimulator]

Identifying wolfdogs via phenotyping isn't always reliable. This is an F1 wolf/german shepherd and it's definitely not obvious by appearance alone. If you asked me without knowing I'd say this was a low content at absolute most.

[shopcat]

no one is into animal hybrids well that's okay because i will make you into animal hybrids. i just find it interesting and cool and like if unicorns were real sometimes it's like Wow... but also u can be on some level aware of the ethicality i guess bc some ppl crossbreed animals for i dunno taking advantage or entertainment purposes or just like arrogance and stupidity BUT sometimes it's just like the scientific spirit i suppose i don't know. and there's a difference between like hybrids with fertile young vs infertile but just because the hybrid offspring is infertile doesn't always mean it's unhealthy or i suppose immoral ? its just to do with chromosomes n junk it's all complicated ... and i just like them and like seeing what they look like i used to be the kid who believed in that cat/rabbit hybrid hoax though which doesn't help

but it does just happen in the wild a bunch bc a coyote just thinks it found the worlds biggest coyote girlfriend but really his girlfriend is a wolf. which is so funny to me. I love them so much.

and then u have something like a buffalo and a cow which r fertile . and a false killer whale and bottlenose dolphin

all members of the ursidae family can healthily produce offspring which rules but i think this second picture might just be a normal grizzly bear. but the first is a polar grizzly <3

then there's savannah cats and bengal cats which i think everyone knows about but make me so mad to be honest every time i see a serval in someone's house i wish they dropped dead it is HIGHLY unethical and just stupid even if i do sort of get wanting to have your own mini tiger it's just STUPID and rich people bullshit and 9/10 times when they can't look after the wild animal in their home it ends up being dumped + very rarely are they being taken care of + it is abusive by nature to simply own any wild animal even if you're a fucking trained animal handler or whatever which also goes for idiots who keep sugar gliders or like raccoons + letting it interact with domestic pets is WILD. and most of them end up as rescues in sanctuaries like with every other exotic pet and actually there's entire debates on whether it's ethical to even have sanctuaries where the keeper directly interacts with the animal and "no touch" facilities i believe r more ethical and the best option for the animal.. basically if u see a dumbass tiktok where someone is petting a panther taking advantage of the spectacle it creates call them a cunt in the comments okay

anyway. these domestic wild hybrids DO have health problems though it is interesting that the savannah cat female offspring is fertile to begin with... it's similar to wolfdogs in the levels of wild vs domestic being ranked 1 to .. 4 ? i think (but wolfdogs i don't actually know much about... they r more common tho) so like an f1 savannah cat is basically just a smaller serval which are HUGE wild cats to begin with and then it goes on in generations until it is essentially a house cat . so dismissing everything i just said it is interesting to see

then with other big cats all members of the panthera genus can interbreed but all produce infertile male offspring and would never occur naturally in the wild. the females are fertile though which is also interesting i think... they also like most hybrids have different characteristics dependent on the parent species and sex so a male tiger and female lion (tigon) would create something different than a female tiger and a male lion (liger). which is also cool hashtag genetics. these are a female and male liger

[art-of-tek]

Two more guys from my old wolf book! This time it's Maccon (left) and Riordan (right).

Maccon is Aphria's (the protagonist) only surviving sibling. The duo are close early on in the book and Maccon around this time is roughly her only friend in the pack, however the duo soon start to drift apart eventually leading to Maccon betraying her secretly training with a wolf from another pack, leading to Aphria's eventual banishment. He does seem to somewhat regret this decision, but despite his love for his sister his pack always comes first. Despite being a wolfdog like Aphria and Riordan, Maccon doesn't really look the part at all, instead him being the spitting image of his mother Bronagh and his grandmother Argel.

Riordan, meanwhile, is Aphria's and Maccon's father. He's an F1 gray wolf/German shepherd hybrid, however he still looks rather wolf-y in colors and markings and only his slightly odd proportions (thin face, tall ears) give away his wolfdog-ness. Riordan had a hard time growing up at the only wolfdog in the pack, but has since proven his worth to the rather judgmental wolves there and is a respected pack member. He loves his pups, but he's also a stern father and expects them to do just as well in pack life as he does. This works fine for Maccon, but for Aphria this proves very difficult. Riordan is definitely the more distant of the siblings' parents, and he also sees pack loyalty as very important, an attitude similar to Maccon.

[ID: Two digitally drawn images of wolfdog characters against a stock photo background of a forest. The first depicts a front-facing headshot and a walking fullbody of a young silver-and-white wolfdog. He has a scarred face, green-yellow eyes and dark gray nose bridge, ear rims and shoulder fur. The second character is shown in a standing fullbody and a 3Q headshot. He is a tan agouti wolfdog with dark green eyes. He generally looks like a wolf, however he has taller ears and a slimmer face than gray wolves. End ID.]

[bones-n-bookles]

Photos from Охотничьи Лайки (Hunting Laiki) by А. Т. Войлочников (A. T. Voylochnikov) and С. Д. Войлочникова (S. D. Voylochnikova).

Top image is of Seryi ("Grey"), an F2 West Siberian Laika x Wolf crossing, I believe *born to the F1 Ulka I posted earlier, sired by a pure WSL. Hos sire's maternal grandsire, Rex, is also shared by her dam's WSL sire, so he's linebred on him.* All of the information within the *'s is only true if he's the same Seryi as I found within the laikirus (dot) ru database, included below. They look similar enough and are the same Fgen but without identical pictures I don't want to misspeak on that.

Below is the head of Serogo, another hybrid. He's not one of the F1, F2, or F3 dogs listed on the laikirus database so no extra info on him, though I would hazard a guess that he also comes from the same Naida she-wolf.

Next to Serogo is Karat, an F3 wolf laika hybrid. He's also not listed but I would hazard the same guess.

I'm only able to roughly translate russian currently so *please* correct me if I make any errors on these!

[isthedogawolfdog]

you might’ve already seen this guy before but i keep getting Harv-Kane’s youtube shorts recommended to me, and i’m pretty sure they straight up have wolves as pets in their house. one of the videos i keep getting recommended is titled something like “cuddly wolf pet smashes all the bad wolf stereotypes” which is dangerous in itself. Their videos get tons of views and i really hope they don’t influence other people into thinking they’re okay to own or even buying wolves or wolf dogs as pets. It’s gonna get somebody hurt. (if i’m wrong about anything feel free to correct me. also sorry if you get messages about this channel a lot, i frequent your blog but i still might not notice)

Heya! I actually did get an ask about that specific video your talking about, but no worries! Basically I’m also worried about people seeing a friendly wolfdog and thinking that it’s all fun and games. I’m also happy to say that they don’t have any actual wolves (but I get the confusion since high contents are supposed to be indistinguishable from wolves!) in their house, but Kane, their wolfdog, is an F1 according to their biography. Not sure if it’s true or not since Kane doesn’t look as wolfy as a wolfdog can get, but if it is it’s concerning as of where they got him.

F1 implies that they had a full on wolf as one of the parents. Actual wolves being owned for breeding isn’t nearly as common as some may think, but it’s still a thing. Needless to say I’m more worried as of where they got Kane if anything.

[spoldhamauthor]

The ‘Wolf’ in ‘Sleep, Think, Die:’ My Response to a Reviewer’s Question.

After reading Book One in the Mindless Trilogy (thank you to the reader) someone commented in their review that wolves are not native to the UK. This is an excerpt from the part of the story that prompted that comment:

“Who knows?” She shrugged, “Never seen one before, though God knows we’ve seen plenty of other weird things round these parts,” she and Harry exchanged a look.

“What if it’s infected?” Lavender suddenly piped up, a worried expression on her face.

“What, like zombie-infected you mean?” Glenda paused, chewing her lip thoughtfully, “I don’t know. I’ve never seen any zombie-like animals. Have you?”

Carson and Lavender both shook their heads no.

“Did it act like it was some kind of four-legged zombie before it came at you?”

This to Carson, whose response was immediate, “No way! It was very much alive, believe me, when it was standing on the bank, snarling! But what the hell is it? It looks wolf-like, but its fangs and face are something else,”

Bumper, who had sat down awkwardly to lean against the guard around the manhole cover, said, “Maybe it is the result of a wolf mating with some kind of big domestic dog, a guard dog even. When the outbreak first began, I don’t think people’s first thoughts were for their animals! There was no time. What if, sometime since then, a wolf mated with, oh I don’t know, a mastiff, or a Cane Corso or something? That would be one hell of a canine to deal with!””

As I said, the reader is absolutely right to point out that wolves are not currently wild in the UK, though of course, historically they did exist here. However, what I was trying to get at in the story, admittedly somewhat obliquely,  is that in the event of a zombie apocalypse it is very likely that animals held in captivity, such as zoos, rescue centres, sanctuaries, animal hospitals and so on, might well suffer neglect, abandonment or worse due to their keepers being turned, eaten or simply running the hell away!  If they are lucky, perhaps they would be released into the wild to survive on their own. Everyone for themselves, type of thing. One last good thing their keepers could try to do for them before turning to matters of their own survival.

I admit that I don’t go into that in depth in the story, it is only briefly implied, but I didn’t think it was that big a deal. I never imagined a reader might expect me to expand on the existence of this Wolfdog species further (Wolfdogs do exist in the UK by the way. This from the PDSA: In the UK, F1 generation Wolfdogs where one parent is a wolf are subject to the Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976 and require a licence to own. It is legal to own a Wolfdog as long as they are three generations (F3) away from the original parent wolf. )

So, the wolf-like dog that attacks Carson on the riverbank could well have been a Wolfdog that had somehow got free and was surviving alone in the apocalypse. Perhaps it was a combination of a Wolfdog with another breed, as suggested by Bumper. Or some other wolf-like breed altogether. What do you think the dog could be? What kind of breed? Where could it have come from?

I am afraid that I must let this reviewer down here and now (spoiler alert) and say that there is no further reference to wolves in the story, though wild dogs do feature later in the trilogy.

I don’t normally respond to observations in reviews. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and honestly, I am just grateful to anyone who takes the time to read my stories and then review them, whether they like my work or not. To the reader who reviewed with the comment about the wolf, thank you so much for taking the time and effort to comment, to read the book and to address the appearance of something wolf-like in the story. I appreciate your interest and the fact that you gave my story such thought and attention. I really hope you go on to read the other two books in the trilogy and that you enjoy them. I look forward to any more observations and I am sincerely flattered that anyone took the time. Thank you.

Should anyone be interested in the potential rewilding of wolves in the UK, perhaps take a look at this link. At present, there seems to be no projects underway to rewild wolves, because “society is not ready.” Quote from Rewilding Britain’s website: https://www.rewildingbritain.org.uk/reintroductions-key-species/key-species/eurasian-wolf

PDSA, The Vet Charity for Pets in Need, has some interesting advice for owning hybrid dogs and cats, including Wolfdogs, here: https://www.pdsa.org.uk/pet-help-and-advice/looking-after-your-pet/all-pets/hybrid-breeds

Lastly, should you happen to love wolves and are interested in helping them or simply learning more about them, take a look at Wolf Watch UK’s website here: https://wolfwatch.uk/

Image Credit: Wolf Watch UK (as featured on their website.)

Wolf Watch UK

[animala2z]

Coydog: Height, Weight, And Care Special Info

A coydog is a canid mongrel performing from lovemaking between a manly runner and a womanish canine. mongrels of both relations are rich and can be successfully bred through four generations. also, a doggie is a mongrel with a canine father and a runner mama.

similar matings passed long before the European colonization of the Americas, as melanistic bootleggers have been shown to have inherited their black pelts from tykes likely brought to North America through the Bering Land Bridge 12,000 to 14,000 times ago by the ancestors of the indigenous peoples of the Americas.

Coydogs were designedly bred in Pre-Columbian Mexico, where bootleggers were held in high regard. In the megacity of Teotihuacan, it was common practice to intercross bootleggers and Mexican wolves with tykes in order to breed resistant, pious but temperamental, good guardians.

Northern Indigenous peoples in Canada were sleeping bootleggers and wolves to their sled tykes in order to produce further flexible creatures as late as the early 20th century. The term is occasionally inaptly used for coywolves, which are common in northeastern North America, whereas true coydogs are only sometimes set up in the wild.

In prison, F1 mongrels tend to be more mischievous and less manageable as pups than tykes and are less secure( explanation demanded) in maturity than wolfdogs.

mongrels vary in appearance but generally retain the runner’s adult fleece color, dark neonatal fleece color, bushy tail with an active supracaudal gland, and white facial mask.

F1 mongrels tend to be intermediate in form between tykes and bootleggers, while F2 mongrels are more varied. Both F1 and F2 mongrels act like their runner parents in terms of shyness and intrasexual aggression.

mongrel play geste includes the runner” hipsterism- slam”. A population of non-albino white bootleggers in Newfoundland owes their achromatism to an MC1R mutation inherited from Golden Retrievers.

Some 15% of, the10, 000 bootleggers taken annually in Illinois for their fleeces during the early 1980s may have been coydogs grounded on cranial measures. As the runner population in Illinois at the time was estimated at 20,000 – 30,000, this would suggest a population of 3,000 – 4,500 coydogs in the state.

Of 379 wild canid craniums taken in Ohio from 1982 to 1988, 10(2.6) were set up to be coydogs. It was noted that” The prevalence of coydog mongrels was high only in areas of expanding, extensively dispersed runner populations”. In a study of runner–canine hassles in the wild, hostile and sportful hassles were seen in about equal proportions.

Height: Height: 22-27 Inches

Weight: Weight: 60-120 pounds

Life span: 5 to 15 years

Litter size: 5-6 puppies (average)

Breed characteristics

Then are some data you should know about Coydogs. So, what’s this strain? A Coydog is the product of a runner and a domestic canine. Since these two canids are different species( Canis latrans and Canis lupus familiaris), the Coydog can be considered a canid mongrel.

History

This Coydog’s history isn’t well known, and a lot of men and women suppose that the strain is a fantasy, despite breeders. The strain is allowed to have been generated for centuries, and signs have refocused to induce pious and strong-looking companions.

Due to also the Coyote’s dislike of tykes generally and also the gap in parentage times, coydogs still are occasionally and are. But, it’s been discovered that individualities have tried to make this mongrel as far back as the 20th Century.

The Coydog is a mongrel between the Coyote and a Puppy dog.

[crispbean]

Kai Ken x wolf cross puppies, photographed in Japan. Yes, the animal is a wolf, not a coyote or a jackal, since I’m sure it’ll come up. Yes, it is likely pure.

What is more interesting here is the color of the pups. While two appear to be brindle, the middle one is either extremely sparse brindle, or it’s sable. This is noteworthy because Kai Ken are supposed to be mostly “fixed” for brindle.

This trend comes up again in these modern Kai Ken wolfdogs, who allegedly have a pure Kai Ken parent and a parent who is a North American wolf of some subspecies undefined.

The above animals live at a zoo, and were mistaken for Shikoku Ken crosses by a Shikoku Ken breeder until he inquired with the zookeeper (as best I understand the blog they came from...)

What are the chances of two different Kai Ken who were crossed to wolves being heterozygous, rather than homozygous, for brindle? Or is there something else happening with the interaction? Maybe Kai just aren’t as “fixed” for brindle as we believe? Yamabushi Kennel, the Kai Ken effort in New Mexico who are also behind Hakuzan Kennel (where one of my Kishu was born) have only produced one non-brindle Kai Ken, which was a surprise to everyone. 

Brindle wolfdogs have been noted in Japan, but only when mixed with Honshu wolf, prior to its extinction (the Kishu Ken wolf crosses I blogged about earlier all exhibit brindle...) 

[wilderun]

how do you feel abt people crossing "subspecies" of wolves freely, especially eastern timber wolf, when there's more and more evidence it should be recognized as it's own species, bc they're so distinct from other grey wolves and more closely related to coyotes and red wolves?

there's not really any 'pure' subspecies wolfdogs/wolves in captivity in the US except for the very uncommon wild sourced animal. The lines were crossed and blended because once laws tightened on the ownership and sourcing of pure wolves, it became difficult to maintain enough diversity within the subspecies lines without mixing them to other subspecies. I couldn't show you a single animal in the USA that is labeled as an Arctic who doesn't have one or more other subspecies mixed in heavily, for instance. Zephyr has a large chunk of Eastern Timber in her background, as well as British Columbian, and then small amounts of Arctic, Tundra, and even a VERY tiny amount of Siberian wolf from am F1 GSD x wolf cross imported from Russia in the late 1950's.

[great-and-small]

I saw your post about people mislabeling their dogs as wolfdogs, but what about Czechslovakian wolfdogs? Would it be correct to refer to them as wolfdogs, as it's in the breed's name?

This is a really great question and I think to best answer it we have to look at the history of Czechslovakian wolfdogs as a breed. The breed started as an experiment in the 1950’s, when the Czechoslovakian military was looking for a new breed of dog to patrol their borders during the Cold War. They aimed to hybridize German Shepherds with wild Carpathian wolves to create an animal with the physical characteristics of a wolf but the temperament and trainability of a dog. The first (F1 and F2) hybrids of these pairings were for the most part far too unruly and unsuitable for training, so the hybrids were painstakingly backcrossed with dogs for more than 25 years to select for individuals that looked like wolves but behaved like dogs. It took a lot of time, but by the 80’s Czechoslovakian wolfdogs were officially declared their own breed!

Although they do look more like wolves than most dog breeds, CSWs are genetically much closer to a dog than a wolf. This is due to the extensive genetic backcrossing with domestic canines that happened early on in their breed history. A study comparing the genetic makeup of the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog to both Carpathian wolves and German Shepherds found that the so called wolfdogs are, genetically speaking, really just dogs. I personally don’t mind calling these dogs “wolfdog” because as you said, the word is right there in the name of the breed, and it does pay homage to their interesting origins! However, I do think it is good to make it very clear to people that these pups are truly NOT wolves. They are dogs that have been carefully bred to look like wolves while maintaining the behavioral traits of domestication, and this is what separates them from true wolfdog crosses that we see today.

For reference, here is a picture of a Czechoslovakian wolfdog and the study that I mentioned (excellent read!)