#found out it’s like jinken

[c3lsthe]

my take on Jin itadori and (kenjaku) kaori

infatuation can count as obsession

[cursedvibes]

I appreciate your response, but I still feel like you’re glossing over the part about Kaori, which is honestly what I feel like most Kenjaku fans gloss over the most. I’ve even seen artists make sexual fanart of Kenjaku in Geto’s body with Gojo as if that’s not Geto’s body. Geto obviously can’t consent to sex. Same with Kaori.

I agree with what you’ve posted about Jin for sure. I don’t think he was unaware that Kaori was possessed like some people like to claim, which obviously also makes him a rapist since he used his dead wife’s body like that. But Kenjaku did too. I get that there are other things to talk about with Kenjaku’s character, but again…it’s hard to see this ignored and downplayed again and again.

I mean, I didn't go that much into Kaori's situation because your ask seemed more focused on points about Kenjaku's character and their fans in general, but that doesn't mean I'm unaware of it or glossing over her? Like the complaint about the backshots meme is, besides the bigoted comments about what sex position Kenjaku chooses, also about how people talk about Kaori's body. I've also talked plenty about her, Kenjaku, Jin and Wasuke in the past. And like half my AO3 account is dedicated to the horror the Itadori family had to go through, including Kaori & her body. I don't expect you to have read all that, but then you also can't make any judgements about me or how I engage with a character based on one post.

Obviously, everything Kenjaku does in someone else's body, including sex, is exploitative and non-consensual because that's not their body. That's a given. Honestly applies to every reincarnated sorcerer, including the likes of Choso and Kashimo. We just found out that their vessels' souls always remain inside, suppressed, they aren't even dead and moved on like in Kenjaku's case (like Geto's body had some instinctual responses, but his soul wasn't submerged inside like in other cases, we see him in the afterlife).

I see Kaori and the way Kenjaku used her brought up a lot more actually, especially since we found out that she had a cursed technique (the first substantial thing we know about her as a person), than for example the Death Painting mother. Despite us knowing more about her than Kaori. People like to talk about what a hard time Choso, Eso and Kechizu had (which of course is also true), but mostly ignore their mother or even the remaining 6 Death Paintings who got eaten to power-up Kenjaku's latest project. Which I partially also blame canon for because Choso had ample time to bring her up in front of Kenjaku, confront them about one of the most horrible experiments they did, focus on the torture she went through, but he didn't. Comparatively, people are a lot more interested to dig into Kaori because of her connection to Yuuji and Kenjaku. So yes, both are Kenjaku's victims like many more, there's a good reason there are headless pregnant bodies in their domain, and both don't get talked about nearly enough unfortunately, but that also has to do with us simply not knowing a lot about them. People have no problem writing novels of angst about possessed Geto, which sure is tragic as well, but that's because we know who he is and we saw him being possessed. There is simply more to dig into. All we know of Kaori's fate or her as a person is contained to two pages at this point. Believe me, I want that to be different, the Itadori family flashback is one of the main reasons I still follow jjk, but I can't speed up Gege's writing process.

It actually bothers me a bit when people call her Yuuji's mother or make any prescriptions about how she feels about Yuuji because we simply don't know her. We don't even know if she ever wanted a child, we just know that Jin wanted one and they couldn't have one for whatever reason while she was alive. Especially with JinKen, I always see Kaori brought into it though, on the basis alone that it's a common interpretation that Jin didn't know who he's talking to or sleeping with. You could say there's slightly more of a focus on Jin being used by Kenjaku than Kaori I guess, but she's rarely completely forgotten. Kenjaku and Jin having sex is in its essence fucked up, just like Yuuji's birth, but that's what draws people in in many cases exactly because it's so disturbing but hidden in a veil of domesticity. Even with art or fics that are "cute" there's often an aspect about how it's a farce, relies on deception and manipulation and that simply by Kaori being possessed any scene between Kenjaku and the Itadori's will be tainted. I like when it gets further explored and focused on how both parties disregard Kaori and what she would've wanted or twist her wishes while she was alive in some way (Wasuke always makes for a good voice of reason in those situations and to give an outside perspective on what is actually happening), but I also don't think that has to be the centre every single time.

While I try to ignore stsg and goken, basically goken's entire dynamic is based on Gojo and Geto's feelings for each other, which is exactly why it doesn't interest me (besides not shipping Gojo in general). So Geto being exploited/raped is like the big topic there. Or Gojo's conflicting feelings about which person he's with. At the very least, the disregard for Geto is there in some way with people leaning into this fucked up aspect. It's dark, but that's what it's supposed to be. Sure, there's smut of them too like with basically every vaguely popular ship. Some of it incorporates what I mentioned, some of it doesn't because people will draw any hot guys making out no matter what kind of or if they have a relationship. Characters will get dumped down, bend out of shape, misunderstood, ignored all together in favour of something else. Fandom is like that and I don't think that's gonna change any time soon and I honestly don't want to police what people draw or what people ship. Again, if you can't stand something, block button is your friend.

[supergenial]

[translation+lyrics] ニワカ三年オタ八年、インターネッツはforever  by ななひら

Nanahi just uploaded this! Definitely my favorite track from her 2016 album “Sleep”. When it came out back then I wasn’t all that sure what it was about, I could only make out that it was about a cringy otaku using way too much internet slang, but now that I take a closer look at it... Yep, that is exactly what the song is about, big relate. Also love (hate) having to open a bunch of pixiv tabs to catch up on already dead memes, real neat stuff (not). Lyrics down below and see you next time!

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ニワカ三年オタ八年、インターネッツはforever

(Niwaka san nen ota yanen, internets wa forever

An otaku, not a hipster, internets are forever)

Composer: Camelia

Vocals: ななひら

[keep in mind she’s constantly doing a flustered laughter so it’s a bit hard to follow along]

sessha, otaku de wa gozaran... ho, hontou de gozaru! hontou de gozaru!! sono me wo mukeru no wo yamete hoshii de gozaru!! shinjite hoshii no de gozaru!! ho, hontou de gozaru yo~!!

me, I am not an otaku.... r-really! r-r-really!! don't look at me like I'm one of them!!! You have to believe me!! I really mean it~!!

soiya sa! soiya sa! haihaihai soiya sa! soiya sa! yoo hai! soiya sa! soiya sa! haihaihai soiya sa! soiya sa! yoo hai WASSHOI yo! WASSHOI wa! hasuhasu WASSHOI yo! WASSHOI wa! kitakore

utagawanai de hoshii de gozaru, mataari sage shinkou suishou de gozaru yo!! reisei ni kangaete sessha ga otaku toka uke mi aru de gozaru na [laughs] riyuu is nani eh? seme... no hantai...? [laughs] gumon de gozaru [laughs] sore wa touzen uke de gozawa!!! (kuchisuberi shinitami tsunori mou damepo)

pay no mind to that accusation, just sage and hide the thread just think of it calmly, what could possibly prompt such a belief eh? what's the opposite of a seme [laughs] no doubt [laughs] it's obviously an uke! (ah, my tongue slipped, desire to die intensifies, just kill me)

BBS SNS IRC kokkyou wa Web no ue ni ari kinki no waado wa kurenai no tsukiyomi (nandeya! chuubou no koro no Handoru Neemu kankei nai yaro!) toutoi hakadoru hontosuko buhireru botaku babu mi ari goigahentteku kanjiru (WA BI SA BI) kiwame yo otaku michi gyaku kapu, itte yoshi

BBS SNS IRC are the remnants of the old web  but the taboo word is ―――†Crimson Poem†――― (what the hell! don't bring up my old username!) Delete This, Big Mood, Same, hhhnnnggg as your vocabulary worsens you ascend towards nerd-doom (rarepairs are welcome)

demo bareru no saketai uchi akerarenai obon to nenmatsu oyasumi shita sugiru (yuukyuu kudasai, nandemo shimasu kara!) [koushite te ni shita kyuuka, sessha wa shugyou ni hagemu no de gozaru... sou, otaku shugyou zettai saikou na yatsu ni shiyou de gozaru na...!!!!!]

but you must avoid being found out, do not confide in anyone if you want to meet the year's end peacefully (and make sure to get paid by all means!) that one vacation is extremely needed for training Yes, otaku training! to become the greatest there is!

mezase TO: akihabara (hai!) tsukame kaisen (haihai!) WiFi nai to jinkennai (aboon) tsunagitai (hai!) tsunagaritai (haihai!) akashiku rekoodo ni (konekushon) towa ni (towa ni) towa ni tsutsukeyo wareware no (moretatsu no) yume no (yume no) umareru tokoro koko, intaanetsu (hai! hai! hai! hai!) sou forever...

let's go to: akihabara, get on that train with no wifi or human rights I want to connect, I want to be connected, to this akashic record forever, forevermore we will be in here in this place of dreams, that is the internet forever...

soiya sa! soiya sa! haihaihai soiya sa! soiya sa! yoo hai! soiya sa! soiya sa! haihaihai soiya sa! soiya sa! yoo hai WASSHOI yo! WASSHOI wa! hasuhasu WASSHOI yo! WASSHOI wa! kitakore

kore ga kuuru japan de gozaru ka~! ii jidai ni natta de gozaru na! n? cho, chotto matsu de gozaru, sore wa... sessha no usuihon! sonna mono yushutsu saretara kurorekishi zensekai daikoukai de gozaru! otonashiku kaesu no de gozaru!! eh? sonna mono tsukutteta no katte? ahh kikoenai aa! socchi wa sessha no chuunibyou jidai nooto, socchi mo hito ni mise wa ii mono de wa gozaran! mou yurushite kureyo!

This really is Cool Japan! What a time to be alive! eh? w-wait a minute, that's my smut! how can my dark past leak out like this to the whole world! give it back to me! eh? you were wondering if I made these? no don’t read it to me! ah! that's my cringe notebook from my teens, don't let anyone see it! have mercy!

pokita! w pokita! mazaingo!!?!? iisami no fukami ga DEEP DARK FANTASY ponaka shuchite kan'in shite mirou kara no seiku kara no misainin niku... sore ijou ikenai sori! sori! sorisugite sonri ni natta! hagedou hon sore guu seiron sore de wa mugen ni neri wo shimatsu poyashimi~ (yuushou!!)

alert! alert! this is bad!!? they've gotten a hold of my DEEP♂DARK♂FANTASY a tale of 3 guys drinking each other's... let's stop here but yes, it’s so good! I can fap to this, couldn't agree more now then let's aim for infinity! good night (victory!)

ROM NDK KSK ikiteru dake de hometekure gacha hiite bakushi de fute ne no ruutiin (honma kire mou shita! omae no ID hikaeta de gozaru!) pyon pyon gorigori ganbaruzoi girigiri desu ne, wakarimasu samurai ninja mo sensha de GO (O O A RA I) kiwame yo otaku michi [seichijunrei shita no ka, sessha igai no tomogara to]

ROM NDK KSK please praise me just for being alive pulling from the gacha has turned into my shameful routine (friend list is full though so hold your ID) pyon pyon gorigori let's do our best samurai, ninjas and tanks (OOARAI), gotta learn it all to be an otaku (if you ever want to hang out, then go find someone else)

demo anime tairyoku nai enban katte tsumu nou zero paasen de onna no ko miteitai (VR kuukan de bishoujo mamire no mama ikisasetekure ~tanomu~) [koushite isshou dennou kuukan de ikiru koto ni natte shimatta sessha... gendaiban shima nagashi de gozaru (munen..)] demo kocchi no sekai...  hikae me ni itte... saikou de gozaru na~!!!

though I don't have the energy for 25 hours of anime, bought a recorder, want to watch brainless moe (just let me live drowning in cute girls in VR please) truly I was meant to live in cyberspace so it's regrettable that I don't however this world... has it's flaws... but it's truly the best!

sagase IN: akihabara chuuoudoori manga ni guzzu senrihin (u~suihon) kangaenai kangaetakunai gunshikin no zankin niji wo niji wo koero yo wareware no (moretachi no) kokkyou sodatta tokoro koko, intaanetsu sou forever...

let's search in: akihabara's main street for more manga goods (porn) i don't want to think, don't ever let me think, of how much war funds I’ve got left let us cross over that rainbow (drooling ones) for I was born and raised here on the internet forever...

[laughs] ougi gokuatsu tenohira tsubame gaeshi

[laughs] Secret move: fiery handheld feint reversal!

mezase TO: akihabara (hai!) tsukame kaisen (haihai!) WiFi nai to jinken nai (aboon) tsunagitai (hai!) tsunagaritai (haihai!) akashiku rekoodo ni (konekushon) amaneku intaanetsu yume no intaanetsu bikkuri suru hodo yuutopia owaranai owariganai jouhou oobaadoozu (adicction) towa ni (towa ni) towa ni tsutsukeyo wareware no (moretatsu no) yume no (yume no) umareru tokoro koko intaanetsu sou forever...

let's go to: akihabara, get on that train with no wifi or human rights I want to connect, I want to be connected, to this akashic record too much internet! dreamy internet! it's so utopic it will shock you I don't want it to end, don't let it end, this info overdose (i’m addicted!) forever, forevermore we'll go on in this ideal place we were born and raised that is online forever...

soiya sa! soiya sa! haihaihai soiya sa! soiya sa! yoo hai! soiya sa! soiya sa! haihaihai soiya sa! soiya sa! yoo hai WASSHOI yo! WASSHOI wa! hasuhasu WASSHOI yo! WASSHOI wa! kitakore

dou mite mo otaku desu. Hontou arigatou gozaimashita.

No matter how you slice it I'm an otaku. Thank you for your time.

(oh yeah, Liberties Were Taken for sure on this one, if you’re wondering about the soiya verses it’s basically generic cheering, don’t think too much of it)