god what really gets me about dead boy detectives and what i think i love so much about the show and the relationships in it is that like. the romantic and sexual relationships aren't portrayed as being more unique or important than the platonic relationships. they're all just RELATIONSHIPS.
charles and crystal's attraction to each other and eventual hookup isn't this big end-all be-all relationship that shatter charles and edwin's friendship and draws charles' attention away from edwin; it's just a THING that happens. they're just two people that care about each other and happen to also be attracted to each other, and a hook-up happens, then they decide that neither of them are in the right place for it and it's nothing awful. crystal kisses charles, but it isn't some big spectacle of her declaring her love for him; it's just her saying goodbye and that she cares about him, like her hugs with niko and jenny and her handshake with edwin.
edwin realizes he loves charles romantically and tells him, and charles says he doesn't really love edwin romantically BACK, but it's okay, because they still love each other so much in so many other ways that this one tiny difference could never change them—and it doesn't!! they're still just as close, still care for each other just as much, still SHOW that care for each other just as much. their relationship didn't completely end because edwin loved charles in a way charles couldn't reciprocate, but at the same time it isn't "solved" by edwin getting over it, because there's nothing TO solve. it's just another type of love, added to everything that already exists between them. and they have LITERALLY FOREVER to figure out what it means.
the relationships between edwin & niko, crystal & niko, and crystal & edwin aren't given any less weight for being solely platonic, just as charles & crystal's relationship and edwin's feelings for charles aren't given (that much) MORE weight for being romantic. crystal and charles' conflict in the closet is about EDWIN, about how they're BOTH his friend and BOTH want to get him back; it has very little to do with the feelings between THEM, romantic or otherwise. similarly, the weight of charles' and edwin's relationship isn't diminished in the LEAST by charles not reciprocating the romantic side of his feelings (or SAYING he doesn't reciprocate, at least—we can all argue about the legitimacy of that in the notes).
i'm sure there are more examples than this, as well as probably some examples that CONTRADICT this, but like... by and large, it feels like dead boy detectives is a show where all the relationships are given equal weight regardless of platonic, sexual, romantic, or familial status, and as someone on both the asexual and aromantic spectrums who has struggled time and time again with shows casting out the importance of all other relationships in favor of prioritizing romance, that is INCREDIBLY refreshing to see.
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Sooooo tired of the idea that a character "following their heart for once 🥺" makes them a good person.
Anakin Skywalker's whole story is literally about that.
He chose love over his responsibility to the Jedi and the people in the universe and ended up killing the very woman he chose over everything and everyone else.
Rose Quartz's story is exactly the same. She followed her heart and escaped her abusive family but was too naïve to deal with and truly understand the consequences of her actions and it led to centuries of war, thousands of deaths, and her son blaming himself for things he wasn't even alive for.
Sometimes responsibility and duty DO come before love. Sometimes you DO have to make sacrifices for the greater good even if it destroys you. Because that is what a good person actually does. A good person puts others their own fucking daughter over themselves and wants to do right by them.
Yes, and at the very least the creators for both of those characters understood that the “following your heart” route for their respective characters would lead to tragedy. That was actually the whole point for Anakin and Rose.
Vivziepop appears to really believe Stolas is in the right for doing terrible things for the sake of his own selfish desires, and yet to make it justifiable to her audience she’s destroyed the story, the characters, and completely abandoned the worldbuilding in Helluva Boss, specifically the class system and commentary, so that Stolas comes out looking sympathetic. I can’t stand it and I can’t stand the thousands of misguided yet hostile fans that accept that BS.
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THANK!! YOU!! for seeing the master/apprentice possibilities. there is such a lack on ao3 it's like there are no sickos left anymore. manny jacinto really delivers though. thank you for always being right you have never been wrong
they're in love and thats FINAL! like the dark side strong emotions shit is such a good foundation for some sicko action???? all that passion possessiveness rule of two fuckery??? what are we even doing anymore........
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hi i will get to ur comments normalstyle soon BUT giggling over this because i also sat and cringed at this for Several Minutes. staring at this line telling myself they are teenage boys they are teenage boys dakota is rawdogging this shit barehands style zero gloves zero sanitation other than good old fashioned Soap and Water theres no way they have a sharps bin. theyre capes this has to be a semi-frequent occurrence. someone please get them a sharps bin......
IM GOING TO GET THEM A SHARPS BIN. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. AT LEAST PUT THEM IN A CARDBOARD BOX OR SOMETHING FIRST. NOT JUST. IN A PAPER TOWEL. IN THE TRASH. RAWDOGGING IT. whoever takes out the trash next is going to need to be so careful. the guy in me who has spent a normal amount of time in lab settings is going to go fucking feral on these teenage boys.
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Man, people need to start making platonic ship content more
write a long ramble text post abt how two characters are so bond together as friends and how they need each other in their lives
drawing fanart and comics depicting the specific dynamic that only they would have with each other
platonic bonds are so important in our lives, i think they deserve a bit of love
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hey, for purely angst purposes, listen to the song "in the wind" by lord huron, imagine it as a song from zuko to (dead) sokka, and fucking suffer. obviously older zukka here but i love the suffering.
hey anon? yeah, FUCK you
I literally will never ever recover from this
“You are the purest soul I’ve ever known in my life.” Shut up shut up SHUT UP
“You know where you can find me again. I’ll be waiting here ‘til the stars fall out of the sky.” SCREAMING CRYING??? Imagining Sokka in the spirit world and Zuko knowing that he’s there but he can’t do anything about it because the connection to the spirit world was severed hundreds of thousands of years ago and he feels helpless because Sokka is RIGHT THERE-
“When you left I was far too young.” BC HE DIED YOUNG.
“To know you were worth more than the moon and the sun.” Do I even need to explain this one 😭😭
“You are still alive when I look to the sky in the night.” BC SOKKA SHOWED HIM THE SOUTHERN LIGHTS FUCK OFF
“I would wait for a thousand years, I would wait right here by the lake my dear.” Imagining Zuko sitting by the turtleduck pond, just staring at all the spots that Sokka and him used to sit. Sometimes he just stares at the water for hours, head empty but filled with grief. AGHHhH
“Years have gone but the pain is the same.” Don’t even want to imagine lok Zuko mourning him rn
“I have passed my days with the sound of your name.” Him rereading old letters, trying desperately to remember Sokka’s voice, always saying his name to himself so he’d never forget, even if he knows he won’t.
“Well they say that you’re gone and I should move on, I wonder: how do they know, baby?” All of his palace staff and friends and family knowing that even if Zuko acts like he’s moved on he hasn’t and they can’t do anything but stare at him with pity and he hates that they know
“Death is a wall but it can’t be the end.” HES IN THE SPIRIT WORLD WAITING FOR YOU 😭
“You are my protector and my best friend.” …..I need a 45 minute nap to recover from this line
Yeah so uh, this is the dead Sokka from Zuko song
Anon I demand a 200 word, fully formatted apology x
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