Hello, person who likes Cyno! I'm really sorry for randomly barging into your inbox like this, and you don't have to answer this if you'd rather not, but I'd like to ask for advice on Cyno's team!
I saw you mention that Cyno's best team is quickbloom, and I'm deciding between that or just regularly quicken/aggravate. I have Nahida who I'm definitely gonna use, but if I'm going quickbloom, the only hydros I have are Xingqiu and Barbara. There's also the matter of the flex slot. I was considering running Shinobu, because will Cyno be able to battery himself? I have Zhongli too, and Raiden and Yae and Fischl. Though I'd rather have some survivability. I'm gonna put PJWS on Cyno if that matters
Hi! I don't mind at all; I love talking about this! I didn't proofread, though, so rip any typos.
Everything I say here can be found on the KeqingMains Cyno Quick Guide and from Zy0x's Cyno videos (+ his second video), so you can reference those as well.
*One thing to note is that in my experience, KeqingMains calculated Cyno's ER requirements as too high. I'll get into that lower down.
This got way longer than I anticipated, so, short answer, TLDR: Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu/Barbara, Zhongli.
The weapon is easy, so I'll mention that first. I have Cyno on PJWS as well; the only thing I'd say is that you may need an EM circlet over a crit since PJWS doesn't have the passive like Staff of Scarlet Sands does to give extra EM. That said, I'm not positive about it.
Cyno does a lot more damage with quickbloom, but it really comes down to a matter of personal preference in play style. I found him underwhelming in aggravate since my Alhaitham spread comp out damaged him in every circumstance, but I rebuilt him for quickbloom, and it's been great. He's been so much fun to play. Either way, make sure you have at least one dendro on your team holding 4pc Deepwood Memories.
Barbara and Xingqiu both work. Barbara is better for traditional quickbloom, while Xingqiu is closer to the hyperbloom end of the spectrum. Either would work fine. I use Xingqiu personally and picked artifacts with an hp% sub stat to give me some healing just in case I take a couple of hits. If you use Xingqiu and PJSW, then I absolutely recommend an EM circlet over a crit one. Hyperbloom scales entirely off level and EM, so you want to make sure you have EM sands and circlet, and an electro damage goblet, with crit rate sub stats and ER on your artifacts.
Flex Slot
Shinobu is a common pick for Cyno's flex because she heals and helps battery (whether you need the battery is up for debate). In aggravate, I'd 100% suggest running her alongside a different flex (run her with iron sting, EM sands, Dendro dmg gob, crit rate circlet. Any of those can be replaced with hp% for extra healing if needed. I run her on my Alhaitham spread team with an hp% circlet).
For quick/hyperbloom, it's deciding if the healing is necessary. Shinobu will steal some bloom cores, so I don't suggest running her in traditional quickbloom comps, but if you're using Barbara, you won't need the healing anyway. For closer to the hyperbloom end with Xingqiu, make sure you build her with EM/EM/EM artifacts so that it isn't a big deal if she steals some cores.
Don't run Raiden. She doesn't do much for Cyno, and honestly, she excels far better in other team comps. This is the KeqingMain's guide for Raiden if you want to build her for other teams, but she's wasted on Cyno.
You could run Yae with Cyno. People do it, but honestly, I wouldn't. Put her on a Raiden team, and they'll both excel better there.
Fischl is Cyno's best battery. She creates an insane amount of particles and is unlikely to steal bloom cores. The question is whether you really need that. Some people do! I run my Cyno as solo electro with 150ish ER on 4pc Thundering Fury and have zero problems generating enough particles to fuel his burst, so Fischl's usefulness entirely depends on if you find yourself needing a battery.
Zhongli, oh Zhongli. Zhongli is the best shielder in the game. You literally cannot go wrong with Zhongli on any team His shield also gives dmg shred, which everybody benefits from.
What I'm saying is that if you can use Zhongli, do so. Fav lance (try to get r5), 4pc Tenacity set, HP sand and HP gob with crit rate sub stats. Either HP circlet with CR sub stats or CR circlet with HP substats. The CR matters to proc the fav particles, which if you can funnel into Cyno can help fuel his burst in a pinch. If you don't have access to a fav lance, the 3* weapon Black Tassel is also solid because of the hp% sub stat (HP/HP/HP artifacts).
I could write a whole post about theory-crafting Baizhu for Cyno's flex (r5 prototype amber, 4pc Tenacity stacked HP + ER), but honestly, I'd just wait until he comes out and see what people better at math than me say about his optimal build and whether he's worth pulling for Cyno. (I am very, very bad at math).
4pc Thundering Fury or 4pc Gilded Dreams?
Okay, I know you didn't ask, but this is important to mention. To start, let's talk energy.
This was made by the CynoMains discord, and by personal experience, I can say that it's way more accurate than KQM's.
As you can see, TF dramatically lowers Cyno's ER requirements. This is because the 4pc passive means that whenever an elemental reaction is triggered, Cyno's E skill is cooldown is reduced by 1s (can only occur every 0.8s). More E skills during his burst = more damage and more energy. With 4pc TF you can comfortably run Cyno as solo electro with no fav users. 144% ER is stupidly easy to get.
Gilded Dreams means you need higher ER sub stats, which means you're losing out on potential atk%, crit value, and EM sub stats that will boost your damage. If you're running hyperbloom with Xingqiu or Yelan, that might be worth it since hyperbloom scales entirely off level and EM. If you're running quickbloom or aggravate, it isn't, since quicken is scaled off all those sub stats, not just EM.
Now lets talk teqctions themselves.
4pc TF lets you smash your E skill and try to time for when the eye is on the screen. That takes some practice, but you'll get there. In my experience, you can hit twice as many E skills. This means even if you run Xingqiu, the fastest hydro app in the game, you still won't run full hyperbloom on Cyno with 4pc TF. You'll still proc aggravate quite often. 4pc TF also gives you an additional benefit on the 4pc passive. Along with reducing E skill cooldown, hyperbloom dmg is increased by 40%, while aggravate is increased by 20%.
In my opinion, that's enough to sell me on 4pc TF, but you can also strongbox it to help farm it.
I'm sure there's several more valid reasons for Gilded Dreams, but tbh, I've been happy enough with Thundering Fury that I don't know them, so if you care, it might be worth looking into more on your own.
My build & rotation
Cyno: c0, lvl90, r1 PJWS. 4pc Thundering Fury, 155% ER
Nahida: c0, lvl90, r2 Sacrifical Fragments, 4pc Deepwood Memories, 144% ER
Xingqiu: c3, lvl30, r5 Sacrifical Sword, 4pc Emblem, 231% ER
Zhongli: c0, lvl90, r4 Favonius Lance, 4pc Tenacity, idk ER off the top if my head but I rarely use his burst anyway.
For rotation, Zhongli E -> Nahida E + Q -> Xingqiu Q + E (often E x2 for Sac proc) -> Cyno E + Q + E + E + E, etc.
Once Cyno's burst is filled, or if his shield drops, I swap out and start again.
I've easily taken this team to floor 12 in the Abyss, even when my other teams struggle to keep up. (Fuck you triple Kenki, my Cyno kicks your ass).
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At the end of the day, Genshin is a game, and it's supposed to be fun. I like talking about builds because, to me, it's fun. I know several people who shrug, say fuck the meta and throw four selfish dps characters on the same team.
Build Cyno however you'll have the most fun with him. If that's meta, cool! If it's not, then that's cool too. Don't let anybody tell you that you're doing it wrong.
As always, my ask box and DMs are open for questions and thoughts ♡♡♡
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Builds and Thoughts Below
¹ Kaveh
Kaveh is my DPS for the team. Yes, I play favorites. You can tell Alhaitham; I'm sure he wouldn't care. I'm kidding, I love you too, Alhaitham.
He's always a WIP.
Bloom damage leaning, but I'm collecting a myriad of artifacts and weapons just for the sake of giving him a versatile wardrobe. Flower of Paradise Lost, Gladiator's Finale, Deepwood, and Guilded artifact sets all work for him. Depends on what you need. Some people on HoyoLab have used a Vermillion Hereafter and Nobelesse sets, too.
Still needs to be triple crowned because... ✨️resources.✨️ #/ResinlessBehavior #/MoralessBehavior
² Xingqiu
I thought I was insane for giving Xingqiu the Deepwood Forest set. But the Vermillion Hereafter set player proved me wrong.
He is now dedicated to Dendro.
Originally, he was going to have his standard set, Emblem of Severed Fate, but it dawned on me that "Deepwood needs to be in the team, but it doesn't need to be on a Dendro character.
He wields Sapwood Blade for the ER and EM boost.
³ Kuki, Shinobu
Shinobu. My beloved. The reason this team doesn't get SLAPPED or blow itself up from Dendro cores.
As I've said before, Shinobu's artifacts still need to be leveled up.
Before Xingqiu, Shinobu was going to wield the Deepwood set because, you know, "hyperbloom" means "Electro MUST be on the team." But then I wanted to build Thoma for burgeon, so Shinobu would be kicked from the team, and I would lose my Deepwood set.
This format makes her more flexible for other team comps.
FoPL also works... So says game8.
⁴ Al Haitham
There's nothing special about Alhaitham's build... Maybe replacing an ATK% sands for an ER sands, but he still has a Dendro dmg goblet and Crit dmg circlet.
I chose an ER sands because I wanted him to be the subDPS. He's a burst bot. He uses his skill and burst to spread Dendro, via running around, dodging, and attacking. Something the Zhongli shielders seem to not know how to do apparently./j
I also have LoFI but I gave it to my Ayato.
Disclaimer: As of Aug. In 2023, there are 66 million Genshin players with active accounts. Someone out there probably has the ultimate team for Kavetham/Haikaveh (whichever you prefer), and character builds, but I am sadly not the one. 😔 With that being said, I don't gatekeep. 😤 I encourage all my fellows to continue building characters and devising stratagems that fit their wants and needs, irregardless of the backlash they may get from meta-players.
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