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#goncharov unreality
nonbinaryeye · 1 year
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I know many people already made much better and more detailed posts about it but Goncharov is all about inevitabilities. There is no one moment that could change the direction of events. There is no point in saying "if this or that character has done this thing differently it would all be fine" because no!! It's all about slow spiral of a tragedy, about things going wrong and piling up on each other. The ending was decided before it all started. There was no other way it could have all ended. And that's the real tragedy of it all. And that's my favourite thing about the movie.
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jackalopegothic · 1 year
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big win for sapphics rn
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Goncharov (1973) incorrect quotes:
Goncharov: Bad things keep happening to me like I have bad luck or something.
Andrey: Goncharov, you don't have bad luck. The reason bad things happen to you is because you're a dumbass.
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Goncharov: So that’s my plan.
Andrey: Are you alright with constructive criticism? I don’t want to sound mean.
Goncharov: No, go ahead, I want to hear it.
Andrey: It fucking sucks.
Goncharov: That’s not constructive criticism.
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Goncharov: So are we flirting right now?
Andrey: I AM LITERALLY STABBING YOU
Goncharov: That doesn’t answer my question
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Goncharov: *holding a bottle* Is this whiskey or perfume?
Andrey: *chugs the entire bottle*
Andrey: It’s perfume.
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Goncharov: Can you please be serious for five minutes?
Andrey: My record is four, but I think I can do it.
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Goncharov: Today is a day of running through hurdles.
Andrey: Aren’t you supposed to jump OVER hurdles?
Goncharov: Whatever. Fear is only something to be afraid of if you let it scare you.
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Goncharov: Andrey, stop! This isn't you, you've gone mad with power!
Andrey: Well of course I have.
Andrey: Have you ever tried going mad without power?
Andrey: It's boring.
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Goncharov: Don’t worry, I have a few knives up my sleeve.
Andrey: I think you mean cards.
Goncharov, pulling knives out of their sleeves: No, I do not.
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Goncharov: *Gets down on one knee*
Andrey: Oh my god, it’s finally happening.
Goncharov: *Falls over*
Andrey: The poison is kicking in.
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Goncharov: Don’t worry, I know exactly what I’m doing. Everything is going to be fine!
Andrey: How can you still say that?
Goncharov: Because sometimes, when things get tough, denial is all we have.
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Goncharov: I’m genuinely surprised you haven’t gotten arrested, let alone gotten a felony yet.
Andrey: Nat 20 Charisma.
Goncharov: That is NOT how that works-
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Andrey: Goncharov, you do remember when we agreed we were better off as friends, right?
Goncharov, naked in Andrey's bed: No, I absolutely do not.
Andrey, already taking off their clothes: Fuck... Me neither.
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Andrey: Wait you like me? For my personality?
Goncharov: I know, I was surprised too.
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Andrey, confused and exasperated: Goncharov, how do you plan on telling a bear to go vegan?
Goncharov: Politely
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Andrey: Okay, help me, please!
Goncharov: Got two words for you.
Andrey: I bet they won't be helpful.
Goncharov: Your problem.
Andrey: I was right.
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Andrey: Goncharov, you risked your life to save me!
Goncharov: And I’d do it again! And perhaps a third time! But that would be it.
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Goncharov: If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're impressed.
Andrey: But you do know better
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Andrey, very tired: Can I sleep in your bed?
Goncharov: *half asleep* Andrey, this is a queen-sized bed. That means it’s for *gestures vaguely to themself* the Queen.
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Andrey: Are you an ‘arr’ pirate or a ‘yo ho ho’ pirate?
Goncharov: I’m a ‘I’m not paying $600 for photoshop’ pirate.
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Andrey: What is the one thing I told you not to do?
Goncharov: Burn the house down.
Andrey: And what did you do?
Goncharov: I made dinner.
Andrey:
Goncharov:
Andrey:
Goncharov: And burnt the house down.
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Andrey: Goncharov...
Goncharov: I can tell by the tone of your voice that you are disappointed. Alas, I must further disappoint you by affirming how little I give a fuck.
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nymreexists · 1 year
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The urge to make acrylic keychains/charms of Goncharov characters is growing stronger every day... help
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convolutedcake · 1 year
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The apple scene is the peak of cinematic symbolism though. The way Katya and Sofia are arguing over Goncharov, and how Katya is so afraid to betray him and go after who she really wants, the tortured dichotomy between lovers. And all taking place at the apple stand, the symbol of the first painful female choice of KNOWLEDGE and uncertainty over blindness and security with a man.
When their hands touch over the apple and we cut to Goncharov before the apple seller offers up the apple for them to take, the older generation passing on the choice to the next...
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Poetic cinema.
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scorsesgoncharov · 1 year
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goncharov fact:
in preparation for his role as goncharov, robert de niro traveled to naples, italy. during the trip he exclusively listened to rasputin by bony m and moskau by genghis khan to work on his russian accent. critic said this would be a terrible way to prepare for the character, however, he later won an oscar for his role and was praised by russian news outlets for the realism of his accent & portrayal of a russian man.
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a-tall-spatula · 1 year
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I can feel a hyperfixation on goncharov (1973) coming on. pray for me.
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marsupials-of-mars · 1 year
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Hehe... Every time i get into a new fandom I need to give it the honor of merging it with my long term guys... Very proud of Katyanus(? Jatya?) Especially the hair
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lachrimae-verae · 1 year
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Honestly I'm getting pretty tired of people making things up that are stupid and rather than admitting (even quietly) that its a joke they double down and do things like editting wikipedia or w/e to "back up" the lie.
I get it, its funny to you, but as someone who has always had trouble knowing if something is a joke or the truth, it comes off very mean-spirited and juvenile. Yeah, haha, you got me. Wow. So glad you could have your 10 seconds of laughing at someone not getting your joke. Meanwhile me and others have had this entire Goncharov situation in various other formats go down countless times throughout our lives and its never 100% funny. There's always the moment of "what have I missed/am I missing/am I just stupid/why can't I understand". And when its something that happens again and again it does feel like the intention is to make other people feel bad that they aren't "in the know" about your weird made up thing. Im all for jokes and the tumblr style made up thing becomes site lore, its one of the reasons I've been here this long, but ngl, the first few hours of the goncharov meme was weird and uncomfortable, especially when ppl were absolutely lying and saying it was a real thing. Obviously I googled it and figured it was fake but for a website of ppl against gaslightling yall sure as hell were ready to make me question my reality for a brief laugh
Don't reblog or comment and tell me its just a joke or im overreacting. We all need to decide what we want the internet to be going forward, and I think that maybe, not having one of the few good social media sites be a place where ppl have to deal with untagged unreality or outright denial of unreality posts is something that should exist
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Gonch acquired
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canineabis · 1 year
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to all of my followers with psychosis or anyone who experiences a hard time differentiating reality — we will survive this goncharov meme!!
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nonbinaryeye · 1 year
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We are not talking here enough about Goncharov's name or to be exact the lack of it.
Because no one through the entire movie calls him by his first name. We as an audience don't even know his first name. And yes there are the endearments Katya calls him or and all the camaraderies from Andrey but no one really bothers to call him by his first name.
And I think it is beautiful how it adds to the themes of his isolation because he is ultimately alone. He has no one he can really trust. In the end there really is no one left to stand by his side.
And I know it's deliberate choice of the narrative not to actually give the main character a first name but from the perspective of the story just imagine how disconnected might one feel with themselves and their own past if no one ever called them by their name.
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pom-seedss · 1 year
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I have been reading Goncharov as Gorgonchov this whole time.
I wake up and suddenly I’m reading Goncharov and wondering if the meme changed or what but no....it is just me.
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I officially am gonzharoving my way through life
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[art by @beelzeebub ]
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reallyndacarter · 1 year
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Me and "The Fonz" at the premiere of Goncharov (1973) at Grauman's Chinese Theatre.
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