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review roundup: billions 7x02 “original sin”

return of the axe! there it is! what did reviewers think?

New York Times: ‘Billions’ Season 7, Episode 2 Recap: The Hard Sell

Even after all three turn him down, so insistent are they that Prince must be stopped, he still doesn’t get the picture. His advice? If you can’t beat him, join him, at least until he’s in the White House and out of your hair. Like so many of the mega-rich, he can’t see the forest fire for the trees.

glad sean saw axe’s parting words as the advice of someone who’s wildly out of touch with reality, because a lot of people seemed to see it as a sign that Axe Has A Genius Secret Plan To Solve Everything, and i don’t like that or think it’s realistic. (that doesn’t mean it won’t happen, knowing my track record, but this is where i stand for now.)

Although Prince is presented as the clear and present danger, it’s Chuck who frightened me more this week. Simply put, the man has gone beast mode.

didn’t really agree with this when i read it after one viewing of the episode. after a second viewing that let chuck’s whole “firing me from the us attorney seat was the root of all evil and it Must be made right” schtick sink in, i agree slightly more, though i still find it difficult to find chuck frightening over him getting back exactly the same job he started with, which i knew he would before the season even started.

Indeed, Chuck reminds me of no one so much this week as Victor. Once described by Axe as “my stone and steely assassin,” he’s the most ethically dubious trader of the bunch, which is saying something; his mirthless, severe face gives him the air of a guy who could kill a man without raising his own pulse rate.

putting this here to refer back to later.

In a very funny bit of business, the consultant makes them both type a list of their sexual partners on their phones and turn them over to him for inspection and approval. I’m curious what he thought of the presence of the Prince Cap employee Rian (Eva Victor) on Mike’s list … and what Mike thought of the fact that it took Andy longer to type hers than it took him to type his.

i’m sure wondering how this is going to loop back around to rian too! i don’t think luke knows yet that she’s one of prince’s employees, but i’d be surprised if he doesn’t find out eventually. as for what prince thinks of andy’s list being longer than his, we already got a glimpse of that when he asked how far down it went and luke told him there’s no room for jealousy.

Speaking of love — kind of, anyway — I do have one major source of frustration with this episode: the relationship between Bobby and Wendy, or rather the lack thereof. Twice now, “Billions” has introduced the idea of a romantic entanglement between the two, paying off years of tension, only to immediately dismiss the idea. It did so first during Axe’s departure, where they confess their feelings for each other but say goodbye without so much as a kiss; the writers do it again here, reuniting them but pre-empting the possibility of anything more than friendship by having them say they’re both different people than they were a couple of years ago.

I’m sorry, but from the moment they confessed their feelings, I simply haven’t bought that these two intelligent, attractive, passionate people who love each other, built an empire together and are accustomed to achieving everything they set out to do would ever look into each other’s eyes and say, “Thanks but no thanks.”

okay. this seems like a good time to air my various sentiments re: the handling of the axe/wendy relationship in this episode and how axe/wendy enjoyers have reacted to it. to wit:

i am rooting against them ending up together, because i’ve never liked axe or their supposedly profound relationship or the often-horrible way axe treats wendy, and because of the sweet schadenfreude i would derive from seeing so many obnoxious fans being denied their painfully heterosexual otp once and for all.

that said: so many axe/wendy enjoyers are throwing up their hands and going “i can’t believe they’re just throwing this OUT THE WINDOW and axe and wendy will NEVER SEE EACH OTHER AGAIN, let alone KISS and GET MARRIED and KILL PRINCE. this is an injustice of the HIGHEST ORDER.” given that we are only two episodes into the season with ten to go, of which four will feature axe, this strikes me as incredibly premature. haven’t you watched enough of this show to know how much can change in ten episodes? axe and wendy saying no to each other now hardly proves they’ll be in the same place when all is said and done.

that said: i still don’t think axe and wendy will end up together, given what damian lewis has said about wendy’s most profound relationship being with chuck because wendy & axe know who they both are (in a way that would prevent them furthering their relationship) and what maggie siff has said about wendy ultimately ending up truly independent / her own person after so many years of being caught between chuck and axe. but that doesn’t mean the axe/wendy enjoyers won’t get thrown a bone in the form of a kiss or something like it.

also, it’s going to be so funny to see their reactions when wendy and luke “forge a connection” in 7x05, whatever that entails.

It took a while, but Philip finally clicked for me this week.

skill issue. but let’s read on.

It’s in his withering delivery of “Skipped a step!” when he catches Victor going over his head. It’s in how he charges into a risky game of luck with Dollar Bill, knowing the only way he can win is to cheat, and knowing that cheating to win will, paradoxically, win Bill to his side. It’s in his willingness to bigfoot people about ethics one day, then encourage them to win at all costs (save getting caught) the next.

i find it funny that what it took to convince sean that philip is a winner / killer / major player is one and the same with what it took to convince victor and dollar bill, two characters with whom he’d likely disavow identification in any other context.

The writing in this episode, by Emily Hornsby, shows that Philip really is a killer; the actor Toney Goins may not look the part, but I’m starting to suspect that’s deliberate.

are you for real doing “this character doesn’t LOOK like a killer but i guess looks can be deceiving” right now? does someone have to have high cheekbones like victor to look like a killer? what do you think the point of taylor in season 2 was?

“You’re just like them,” Mike must tell the people, Bradford says. But Mike must also convey that he is “nothing like them,” that he is “their better, who will protect them and lead them while at least understanding them.” I take back what I said about both Chuck and Victor: The consultant is the scariest person on this show.

if i were making this point, i’d choose the moment when he replied to prince asking “i have to win a world war?�� with “ha, if only!”

Vulture: Billions Recap: It Ain’t Me, Babe

There was no way Axe was going to let anyone lure him back into the fold so easily, but the real tell that he’s got something huge up his sleeve was his bonkers advice to his departing colleagues: Help Prince get elected to the presidency. Axe may present as a new, Zen version of himself, but he’s also clearly still licking his wounds — which means he’s plotting something massive against his sworn enemy. So, my early prediction is he needs Prince to become president as part of his own secret takedown plan.

there’s that Axe Has A Genius Secret Plan To Solve Everything angle i was telling you about.

I’ve said it before: This is not Corey Stoll’s fault, but Mike Prince is not a compelling character. Bobby Axelrod is.

you had me in the first half!

Poor Dave Mahar ends up the real loser in this story, though. First, the judge who dismisses Chuck’s case harshly reprimands her, then Chuck, going full asshole, insults her by calling her job, a job he previously held a handful of months earlier, “bush league.”

truly! and she was doing so well at the end of season 6.

It also doesn’t take Luke long to deduce that all of Andy’s beauty products in the medicine cabinet are brand-new.

what got me about this moment was: if andy was coming to visit prince for more than a day, wouldn’t she have brought luggage, presumably including toiletries that weren’t brand new and that she could have put in the cabinet? or do rich people simply not carry toothbrushes and foundation when they travel because they expect to be supplied with whatever they want at their destinations?

Never mind Luke’s double standard here: The American people can’t accept a “first couple with an arrangement”? One could argue you can’t even run for president in this country without at least one sex scandal.

that link kind of says it all. unless prince pulls an overton window and goes on tv to say “my wife and i have an open marriage… and i have faith that You, The American People will vote for me anyway,” their arrangement could feasibly just stay as rumors of affairs, which won’t necessarily be the thing that keeps prince from the presidency. i can understand luke wanting to eliminate all possible sources of scandal, but he could at least be more realistic about it.

Fan Fun with Damian Lewis (Damianista): Billions on Showtime, Season 7 Episode 2: Original Sin

Now on to the episode recap which I break down into four parts – each named after Wendy’s lost boys : Bobby, Chuck, Mike and Others 🙂

to paraphrase wendy just in 7x01 re: prince: don’t call him her guy!

Their chat is interrupted by a call from Scooter who asks Taylor how the “Redemption Tour” is going. And he also asks them about the fire cracking in the background. Taylor may be a good liar but Scooter can easily check if there is a fireplace at the hotel they are supposedly staying. Just saying…

…can he? that seems like a difficult thing to check without going there in person to look, unless the hotel’s website is very detailed about the presence or absence of fireplaces.

What Wendy puts in so many words, I would put in one: Redemption. Yes getting involved with a presidential campaign and affecting lives of millions of people is TOO MUCH. You have to draw a line somewhere. And we have seen all the lead characters in Billions, except for Prince, drawing a line somewhere: e.g. when Axe stops the “final solution” Dollar Bill offers in Season 5 Episode 3 Chickentown, or when Chuck says even he cannot do that when Swerdlow offers to secure an illegal immigrant child’s kidney for Senior in Season 5 Episode 7 Limitless S*it , and now Wendy draws the line at Prince’s presidential bid.

sure, but “redemption” isn’t really the word for that. it’s not at all synonymous with “drawing a line.”

As they are leaving, Bobby feels the urge to reveal his own take on Prince:

“You can’t bring him down. So you should help him. Get him elected. That how you get him out of your way once and for all.”

Now, I am 100% sure Bobby has his own plans to get Prince out of the way. But does he need Prince to get elected to take him down? Or does he just want to protect his three musketeers as he pursues Prince?

take a shot!

“That one sin begat a world of sinners. One minute all was pure. The next, a hellscape on earth.”

Well, if you ask me, this is the brief summary of 6 seasons of Billions with the original sin being the moment Chuck has decided to go after Axe! And now Chuck wants to re-take the seat he had when Billions started 7 seasons ago and redeem himself. This is what I feel about him. Because, in my opinion, Chuck knows deep down about the exact moment he made the mistake of going after Axe for nothing, for an expensive house for God’s sake, which led to other mistakes that ultimately ruined his marriage.

honestly, i’m not sure chuck does realize that was the beginning of the current hellscape, even deep down.

And Victor takes the rest of the day to travel to Buffalo and take his grandparents to a real doctor! I plan to present him the best grandson award in our MVP post on Wednesday. Yet, what he has done to save Korlera is beyond redemption and I wonder if this will come back to bite Prince in the ass.

wondering that myself!

Other Lost Boys

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As Rian applauds Philip for beating the bully, Winston says Philip has got ‘Winston Dick Energy’ happening that makes Rian almost puke… But the thing is Winston Duke Energy is the title of the next episode and I cannot wait to see what Winston has in store for us!

really bad timing for the glaring typo there.

rude of you to categorize winston among “wendy’s lost boys.” he is not and has never been one of wendy’s people.

🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

Entertainment Weekly: Billions recap: Freedom, plotting, and the power of cowboy boots

In fact, those scenes are all a little sluggish; Wendy, Wags, and Taylor all essentially have similar reasons for wanting Axe back, so having to hear each of them lay out their thoughts is a bit tedious.

the whole point of those scenes is that wendy, wags, and taylor all use different tactics on axe despite having the same ultimate motivations. (and, relatedly, that they have three very different relationships with axe that are all worth revisiting one-on-one after a season apart.)

Plus, the whole notion of Prince being some sort of massive threat to American democracy is very undercooked so far this season; just because Wendy says it, doesn't make it true, and the show isn't really doing enough at the moment to prove why Axe and everyone else should be so concerned about Prince making a move for the Oval Office.

was him decrying the idea that politicians should listen to people and casually quoting hitler not enough? or throwing a printer through wendy’s wall over the thought that she doesn’t want him to be president? especially when we’re only two episodes in?

Anyways, let's shift gears to Chuck (Paul Giamatti), whose storyline is much more intriguing.

your experiences are not universal!

A few weeks after being arrested, the "charges" against him are dropped and Chuck is a free man.

it has not been a few weeks. it has been approximately a year. i wouldn’t expect you to investigate closely enough to know that, but i would expect you to not make up baseless timeframes.

While Victor (Louis Cancelmi) and Dollar Bill (Kelly AuCoin) are bringing in new ideas, with Philip (Toney Goins) overseeing all the new business, it's clear that Prince isn't very hands-on at this point. He's in the office, sure, but he can muster up little more than "bring me more ideas" to the team; it's a far cry from the rousing "good billionaire" role he has deployed to capture so much wealth and power.

get his ass!

Fan Fun with Damian Lewis (Gingersnap): The Unbeatable, Unstoppable, Unparalleled MVPs from Billions Season 7 Episode 2 ‘Original Sin’

Damianista

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Fucking Badass Motivator – Philip Charyn

Once they hire Dollar Bill, Philip knows how to motivate the man. He works behind the scenes with Ben Kim to have Dollar Bill kiss and make up with Mafee so they can work together and make tons of money.

i don’t think that’s accurate. i’d guess this is based on philip saying “that was the plan” in response to dollar bill saying he & mafee are “gonna make bank,” but i don’t think we’re supposed to assume that he actually played a role in getting dollar bill & mafee to make up. unless ben kim somehow foresaw dollar bill asking for an executing trader and discussed it with philip before the request was ever made, he surely came up with and pulled off that gambit on his own.

Lady Trader

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The “Mall Glamour Shots” Award: Everyone has photos of their family in their homes. However, those obscenely large pictures of Prince’s daughters was way over the top. They were totally giving mall Glamour Shots from the 1980s!

are we sure those aren’t painted portraits, rather than photos? (also, you can really tell lady trader didn’t watch season 6 if she finds these worthy of comment now.)

The “Chip Off the Old Block” Award: Gordie Axelrod trading crypto like a boss! Looks like Axe got another one to give up their higher education in order to pursue making money!

ah fuck. the implicit comparison of axe’s son to taylor is a one-hit kill.

Holliedazzle

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The Apple With The Closest Proximity To The Tree: Gordie

Seeing Axe’s once sweet but mischievous (and most definitely spoiled) kiddo sitting behind a desk, cursing out people and making deals? It felt weird but…fitting. It makes me think that his brother might pivot and turn out the other way. And what does his mother think of this? I cannot imagine she approves of this. But something tells me this chip off the ol’ block can’t hear anyone’s criticisms over the sounds of making money.

asking all the same questions i had about the other axelrods! though i’m not sure gordie was ever really sweet.

TheTailThatWagsTheDog

Inflated Ego Award – Last week Chuck lost out to Prince and his “Anvils not Hammers” line, but this week Chuck has it all too himself by calling the NY AG job ‘Bush League’ – he didn’t think it was bush league when he had it. He is getting on my nerves this year with his overblown sense of himself. He wasn’t always this way. And with Bobby showing some sense of reflection? Holy role reversal batman!!

are you sure chuck wasn’t always this way? really sure?

Coming Around Award – to Tuck – he showed some brass ones standing up to Bill, even if he did get all lame recalling his botched prom – but he is finally showing himself to have some substance – just in time for the series to end?

fellas is it lame to remember that time you got your heart broken in high school?

Worst/Best Song Reference – “Free As a Bird” – if he’s quoting Lynard Skynard, then we’re fine. But Bobby said this in England, home of the Beatles, and they came out with a song of this title as one of a two-song release in 1995 (along with “Real Love”), and all I can say about that song, maybe they should have just let it be?

given that axe attributed that line to “the pride of jacksonville,” and that lynyrd skynyrd (the correct spelling!) was from jacksonville and the beatles were from liverpool, and that the subsequent quoting of “this bird you cannot change” could only have referred to the lynyrd skynyrd song, i think it’s fairly clear what he meant.

Did the Writers Goof in the Liar’s Poker? For the winning play, Philip said he has six 8’s, but then when Bill takes the dollar he says he can’t believe it has five 8’s. Did someone mess up there, and if so, how did it escape the editors? Or did I miss something there?

let’s roll the tape:

PHILIP: Six 8s. TUK: Oh, smells like an overbid. BEN KIM: Yikes. DOLLAR BILL: No way, buddy, since I only got one. Call. Philip shows Dollar Bill his bill. DOLLAR BILL: No fucking way. He grabs the bill. DOLLAR BILL: No fucking way you got five 8s on this bill.

liar’s poker involves betting on how many times a given digit appears on all the bills being used in the game, not just one’s own. philip bet six 8s, and the 8 on dollar bill’s bill + the five 8s on philip’s bill = six 8s altogether. so: yes! you missed something there!

Fan Fun with Damian Lewis (Lady Trader): “From the Trader’s Desk”: Everyone’s Playing 3-D Chess!

i read this shortly after watching 7x03 and i have to say that that title makes me want to break things.

Happy Friday from “From the Trader’s Desk”.

no it fucking isn’t.

Divorce, affairs, plagiarism, lying, stealing, cheating – have any of those things stopped some of our current elected officials from getting nominated and elected? No, and in fact, in some cases, has made the “base” love them even more. So, I doubt an “open marriage” would be that outrageous to the voters (hell, some guys would vote for Prince because he was able to pull it off!) if Prince was still promising a goodie bag of treats to the public.

as i was saying earlier.

Isn’t great to have Dollar Bill back where he belongs?

no it fucking isn’t.

Philip earns the respect of Dollar Bill by playing (cheating at) Liar’s Poker. (The Michael Lewis book of the same name is where the infamous phrase describing a trader as a “Big Swinging Dick” comes from). Bill, being an old-school trader, would have certainly played his fair share of this classic Wall Street game in his time. “Cheat to Win” (a chant most often used at the jousts at the New York Renaissance Faire) was certainly Philip’s mantra. Bill may think Philip is a badass, but I don’t trust him, and neither should Bill.

i feel like describing philip’s approach as “cheating” is a little bit of a stretch. i don’t claim to understand all the fine points of liar’s poker, but i don’t think you’re required to only select a bill and look at the serial number After you’ve jumped into the game. do we really think dollar bill blindly selected the bill with six fours that he won a round of liar’s poker with back in the day and deemed lucky forever after?

Axe wants to know if Taylor will feel free after taking down Prince or will they self-sabotage and wonder why they are not where they want to be. Axe knows Taylor so well. It was one of the reason I still believe that of all the adversaries Axe has had over the last 7 years, Taylor was always his fiercest one.

banger.

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dachi-chan25 · 7 years

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Game of Thrones- Season 7 episode 2 Recap (Pt. 1)

So after debating a lot with myself I decided to make this post because I have a LOT of thoughts and feelings about got’s most recent episode.

I can’t promise I’ll keep doing this for the next episodes (cuz I’m hella busy right now) but I’ll try anyway.

WARNINGS: This is obviously gonna contain SPOILERS; while I try most of the time to be neutral and objetive if you are a ride or die D@ny Stan this is not the recap for you (I find her intresting as a character but I DON’T have any love for her since season 4); I’m clearly a Jonsa shipper so of course I’ll be talking about it.

Cool? Let’s begin!!

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1.- So we start with a storm hitting Dragonstone, cuz the episode is called “Stormborn” so there must be a storm cuz -poetic cinema- anyway we pick up where we left last episode. D@ny is with her small council, and Varys is recalling her birth (but we already knew she was born during a storm soooo) and D@n-D@n admits she doesn’t feel like Dragonstone it’s her home. I honestly called it since episode 1, her ‘coming home’ scene was very dry to me, it held no emotion and I’m glad at least she now recognizes she is here for the Iron Throne and not because she wants a home (and hey maybe she does but- even if I’m going to sound like a cheeseball- neither a castle nor a throne are a home, and she has forsaken love [aka. Daario] to get both of those things soooo) Yeah so it’s time to drop some truths, and Varys admits his loyalty is only to the people and D@ny agrees to forgive him for trying to get her killed under the condition he doesn’t conspire against her but tell her if she’s failing him and the westerosi people (but then she threatens to burn him ‘as expected from the Mother of Dragons’ he says ‘as expected from the Mad King’ says I)

Thing is, from Varys’s POV, she is the best damn chance at getting a somewhat decent ruler (I mean compared to Robert who didn’t care about ruling or Cersei who is ruthless of course I see his point! Plus she kind of has a legit claim over the IT) but does it mean she should??? If she cared so much about being a good ruler (not a conqueror) and doing right by her subjects then she already sucks at it. Look at Mereen, it was supposed to be her “practice” at being Queen and apart from ending slavery (with very questionable decisions) what good did she do??? She left the place in RUINS with no new system to rule, and her ex-boyfriend in charge, someone who has no political history and who lead a very violent group of mercenaries, not only that but she left the city in a very vulnerable spot, and her subjects must recent her for that.

Now I know lots of people are praising her for not burning the whole damn city, but I don’t because that would be a dumbass move and who would want to regin over ashes?? I mean not even Cersei.

Back to the episode, another fire-lady (aka Melissandre) arrives and talks about the Azor Ahai (we even get a brief lesson of High Valaryan) and mentions casually that Jon Snow is KitN, Tyron is like ‘he’s cool bro, we should totally recruit him’) and the D agrees to send him a raven to summon him so he can bend the knee.

WHAT THE HELL???? Melissandre is clearly saying there’s some serious shit happening and D@€n€rys is more worried about stablishing her supremacy than asking what is the threat???? This is why I dislike her so much. Tyrion doesn’t look thrilled by the way.

2.- Wait is this season 1??? Noooooo it’s Jon and Sansa recreating yet another Ned/Cat scenes like the totally platonic siblings they are.

So Tyrion’s raven has arrived, and looks like someone learned from his mistakes and is disscusing things privately with his most trusted advisors (aka. Sassy pants and Dadvos). Totally platonic siblings agree that Tyrion is cool, but they find this invitation very suspicious… And they should because being the sneaky clever man we all know Tyrion fails to mention that part about bending the knee (not a very favorable beginning for J0-J0 and D if you ask me) however Dadvos point out they might have a use for her big ass army and flying-magical lizards against the WW.

Sansa refuses to send Jon, and Dadvos is like lmao no!!! Jon is ours!!! But being Ned 2.0 we all know duty and honor comes frist to him *sigh*.

3.-Cersei is holding court (to like 5 people) trying to sway the Reach Lords to her (dark) side, by telling them how dangereous is DT (which I find ironic cuz like she is not the only one who burns her enemies sister) but as we see with Randy Tarly people are not so charmed by their new “Queen”.

Jaime honestly just keeps disappointing me, and even when I dislike the Tarly bitch I applaud his loyalty to Olenna (that Red Wedding reference was savage!!) and let’s admit it, it’s FUCKING impossible to choose between Cersei whom is ruthless and hated and D@€n€rys with her three massive weapons and her army of rapists and slaves from their POV.

Also let’s fear not cuz Maester Qyburn has solved the dragon dilemma by making a big-ass crossbow that pierces right to a dragon’s skull honestly wtf.

4. Back with D@nee, we have the Greyjoys, Tyrells and Dornish (or what is left of them) at a war council making not-so sneaky plans: Yara and Ellaria want to burn it all down and take KL, Olenna actually supports them. But the D just won’t do it, which I completely support (#stop killing the small folk in your stupid Wars 2kforever) Ellaria calls bs cuz ‘this is Esparta- I mean war!!’ she and Tyrion have a face-off about Myrcella (a minute of silence for book!Dorne’s storyline) and honestly I just new this council was gonna be a hot mess, everyone wants revenge.

And D@ny knows but tries to bring them to heel anyway, so they explain their strategy: a site. Using the Dornish and Tyrell army (so she won’t burn them but is willing to let them starve to death. FUCKING charming) but actually is kinda clever because Tyrion predicted Cersei would try to turn the Lords against them for bringing foreginers (which they totally did) and wants a westerosi vs. Westerosi battle, and he hopes it might sway some Lords to their side while he and the Unsullied take on Casterly Rock.

Everyone agrees that is an awesome plan (I call bullshit) and D asks to have a word with the Queen of Thornes. She is not deluded into thinking they actually care for her (well done D@ny) but she promises Cersei will pay!!! And Olenna gives her the shittiest most OCC advise ever: be a dragon (which translates to: burn them all!!!! And don’t listen to your advisors cuz they are mans) but I understand she has nothing to loose now (honestly the thing I liked about the Tyrells is that they fomented Love and not fear so I was rolling my eyes so hard at this) so she stopped caring about keeping the small folk happy.

5.- Sammy Pottarly on Oldwarts, working with Archmaester Slughorn!!! they basically tell Jorah they can do nothing for him, Sam feels bad for him and offers to send word to his family, Sam gets the big 'I’m a Mormont’ reveal and he immmediatly decides he can’t let this Man die even if he knows nothing about him. I Love ya Sammy but don’t.

This is getting too long so I’ll make a second part with the rest of the episode.

#GOT S7 #got 7x02 recap #part 1 #dachi rambles #jonsa

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travllingbunny · 4 years

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The 100 7x12 The Stranger

This is an episode I’ve enjoyed a lot more on rewatch than the first time. Which I kind of expected. The first time, I really didn’t like it, but this was mostly because I was too impatient to see Bardo and Bellamy, and really didn’t have patience for the Sanctum scenes, which again took up so much of the episode, or focus while watching them - that is, I did at the beginning, but not in the second half o the episode.

In fact, there was nothing that bad about the Sanctum scenes, and I enjoyed many of them on rewatch, but this storyline is simply not as interesting as the one about the Anomaly, Bardo and the Disciples, especially now when Bellamy has returned and just had a most dramatic character transformation, 5 episodes before the end of the show. And that’s been the main problem of the season so far: pacing. Jumping from one plot to another works when you have two equally interesting and exciting stories, and that really isn’t the case here.

It also didn’t help that this episode - by a first time writer - had too much clunky dialogue, such as so many times when characters were recapping events to each other:

Indra recaps to Memori what happened in a scene we saw 5 minutes earlier (at least this was brief)

Hope recaps her life story to Jordan, which we already saw in 7x02 and 7x04 and heard retold 7x07

Madi recaps what happened to her on Earth (to be fair, we did not actually see that on screen)

Bellamy recaps not just 7x11, but also season 3 and season 6

Murphy recaps 7x03 to Nikki

Now, some of this was probably necessary, but some of it wasn’t exactly - for instance, did we really need to hear Hope’s life story again? The scene was very nice, but we could’ve just have Hope tell Jordan “Dev was my friend” and assume she already told him who he was. This wouldn’t bug me if it was just one scene, but it was so many of them in the same episode. It’s OK to have characters sometimes learn info off-screen, especially when there’s just a few episodes remaining. It’s not that there isn’t enough time left to resolve all the storylines - there are 4 episodes left, about the same net amount of screentime as the entirety of Avengers: Endgame - but the show needs to pick up the pace.

It could’ve been a better episode, especially considering the fact that some big things happened, and the storylines finally converged by the end of the episode, setting up potentially exciting final 4 episodes.

On the more positive note - it was very interesting to see Bellamy’s conversation with Cadogan and his repressed but clearly conflicted emotions in his scenes - first with Echo and Raven, and later with Clarke and Octavia, and his attempts to find reconcile his new faith with his desire to save the people he loves. And on rewatch, I enjoyed a lot of the other scenes -nice character moments with Madi and her friends, and with Jordan and Hope, cute moments with Memori, or even Murphy’s confrontation with Nikki, though I would’ve enjoyed some of them better if they had happened in some other episode earlier in the season.

Bardo

Bellamy is now in full-blown Disciple mode, wearing one of those ridiculous white robes, similar to what Doucette wears, even though Bellamy is not a Conductor or a science-oriented person like Gabriel, hasn’t gone through any Disciple training and isn’t even Level 1 (as seen by the lack of the marks on his face). He is clearly being treated as one of the top Disciples anyway, one of Cadogan’s inner circle, which may be justified by the fact that he has gone through the Etherea pilgrimage. We know that Cadogan’s pilgrimage is a big deal in Disciple religion, which would raise both his and Doucette’s status, but he is also, of course, important to Cadogan because of his connection to Clarke and the “Key”.(Sidenote: I don’t think anyone has been appointed the new First Disciple after Anders’ death. The job of the FD was to act on behalf of the Shepherd and lead in his absence, and wake him up every 20 years to update him on the progress of the search for the Key and the Final Code. Now that Cadogan is there to lead himself, he has no need for a deputy anymore.)

He is also getting to have one-on-one talks with Cadogan. This scene is one of the most interesting in this episode. Bellamy is incredibly repressed, with subdued feelings, but those emotions are still simmering and coming through on his face and in his voice, thanks to Bob’s great acting. Bellamy gives Cadogan condolences for Anders’ death, and Cadogan replies that he really barely knew and didn’t care about Anders, which we knew already. Cadogan interprets this as Bellamy testing him if he has any attachments. I don’t know if that is true or just how Cadogan read it, or if Bellamy assumed Cadogan and his FD must have been close, and/or if he was doing it so he could bring up the issue of his friends, who are supposed to be executed for “their” crimes. (Which are really just Echo’s and Hope’s crimes, but the Disciples seem to have decided they bear collective responsibility, even though many of them tried to stop it - and no one is disputing it.) Cadogan goes on about how trying to suppress attachments and emotions is a long way and says he is still struggling with it after doing it for hundreds of years. (No, Bill, you haven’t been even conscious for hundreds of years. You were in cryo. Shut up.) He says Bellamy reminds him of his son Reese/ Since Bellamy and Reese are nothing alike, I can only interpret this as Cadogan trying to manipulate Bellamy by presenting himself as a father figure. I thought at first that he may really have meant it because he assumed Bellamy would be as loyal to him as Reese was - but that’s clearly not true, since the end of this episode shows that Bill does not fully trust Bellamy.

Bill thinks that Callie must have killed Reese, since he apparently can’t see any other reason why Reese never got to bring him the Flame. It says a lot that 1) he assumes that 1) Reese always remained loyal to him and that 2) Callie would be willing to kill her brother. He always put them against each other and made them fight as children. And he doesn’t even entertain the thought that Reese may have had any character growth and changed his mind. I have a feeling he may be wrong on both accounts.

But Bellamy is good at manipulating Cadogan, too, in order to save his friends - he realizes that Bill’s family is his weak spot. Cadogan was not entirely convinced by Bellamy’s suggestion that the Flame can be repaired, but he was affected - even if he didn’t admit that - when Bellamy told him he may find out what happened to his children through the Flame. I’m not entirely sure if Bellamy believes that 1) the Flame can be repaired (which may or may not happen) and 2) the Commanders' memories would still be there (which doesn’t make a lot of sense and seems unlikely). He is very sincere about his faith, and he says later he can’t lie to the Shepherd, so he wouldn’t be lying... But he is clutching at straws to save his loved ones, maybe even trying to convince himself. And there’s also the fact that he does lie to Cadogan later, during Clarke’s MCap.

We then see two conversations Bellamy has with the people close to him - the first one is with his Spacekru family: his girlfriend Echo and his long-time friend Raven. The second one is with Clarke and his actual family, Octavia. The Disciples again made sure to put characters in cells for two people, but we don’t get to see Bellamy talk to Miller and Niylah (even though the scene was filmed, as we saw in the promo pictures). I hope that scene was not cut due to time - considering how much screentime was used up by the Sanctum storyline, again, and these characters are constantly getting short-changed. But I think it may have instead been cut because of the story structure - to focus on just these two scenes. What’s more, Raven’s role is much smaller than Echo’s in the former scene as she leaves early, and, surprisingly, Octavia plays a secondary role in the latter, which is mostly focused on Bellamy and Clarke’s interaction. And considering how the former scene was changed from the script, - Bellamy’s emotions toned down, Bellamy not explaining his experiences to Echo and Raven as he does later to Clarke and Octavia - which made the contrast between the two scenes stronger, I think the intention was to focus mostly on Bellamy’s relationships with Echo and Clarke, and that the compare and contrast was deliberate.

Throughout both of these scenes, Bellamy insists that he is trying to save everyone from death, while also being true to his faith, but his loved ones, understandably, are shocked by this new Disciple Bellamy, who feels like a stranger, and who is acting as one of their captors and is even willing to let them be put in MCap against their will. He notably does not answer the question Echo asks - if he is ready to watch them die, which is a strong possibility if his attempts to placate Cadogan don’t work. Instead he just says “You know that’s not what I want”, which doesn’t answer the question. Maybe because he is not sure yet what the answer is. But he does answer one other question...

In his talk with Raven and Echo, Bellamy shows emotions (including concern when noticing Echo’s scars), but they are very subdued, and he eventually makes it clear that, if push comes to shove, he is prioritizing his new faith over his people. Raven reacts with typical Raven anger, and throws the words "So much for family" in Bellamy’s face (echoing what Bellamy himself said to Miller in season 5 - "So much for the 100"). Echo is also indignant but tries to plead with him, hoping to bring back old Bellamy in him - without any success. Which may be seen as a sign of how strong Bellamy’s indoctrination is... but looking a little beneath the surface, a lot of what she says makes me wonder how well she knew the old Bellamy in the first place. Bellamy, on his part, asks Echo to believe in him and be on his side, but his argument is to appeal to her feelings for him (”I am the man you love”), expecting her trust and loyalty without really offering anything in return, such as, say, some promise, some mention of his feelings for her. Echo tells him about how obsessed she was with saving him... and then avenging him - she is really channeling S2 Finn with how she refers to her genocide attempt as a grand romantic gesture and sign of love that he should appreciate. Even if Bellamy was his old self, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be happy to hear that. Disciple Bellamy remains stone-faced and gives her only a flat “I’m sorry you had to go through that”.

(And this is what annoys me about this scene and this storyine in general: somehow, Echo is made to look morally superior, after having murdered and betrayed multiple people this season an some two days after she murdered people as a way to torture Levitt and almost committed genocide, and no one has any time to even mention that or blame her for anything. If Bellamy had done a fraction of her actions, it would’ve turned into a huge story of guilt and Bellamy being blamed and needing to redeem himself forever.)

But regardless of how you see these characters’ respective arcs, one thing is clear: they are on completely different wavelengths. Echo mentions how she tried to keep her identity by scarring her face - but that scarring was an Azgeda custom; the core identity she was trying to preserve was that of an Azgeda warrior/spy, which is hardly something to mention as a positive thing to Bellamy. Not only does it have nothing to do with them as a couple or as a team/”family”- her Azgeda spy/warrior identity made her Bellamy’s enemy and caused him a lot of trauma. This is either some weird and bad writing, or an intentional attempt to show the cracks in this relationship that have been there all along. Bellamy, on his part, seems to think Echo will understand the appeal that this faith has for him - a promise of “no more war, no more killing”. Why does he think this is something that would appeal to her? Fighting and killing for her “people” and her “King” and fulfilling her mission is what she lives for, even after having spent 11 years in peace.

Throughout this scene, Echo looks very emotional, especially by her standards, while Bellamy is incredibly restrained. She finally asks him point blank “Is this (his faith) more important than us?” This is a very ambiguous line, because the pronoun “us” can be understood as “all of us, your family/friends” or “you and me/our relationship”. There’s been a debate on which one she meant - I even created a Twitter poll about it (where about 2/3 of voters said they thought she meant their relationship). I can see both of these interpretations, but the intimate way she said that line and the way she was looking at him make me think that she meant “us” as in their relationship. Either way, the fact that Bellamy - after a pause - unambiguously answered “Yes”, makes it pretty clear that this relationship is over. I find it hard to see any future in this relationship even if/when Bellamy stops drinking the Kool-Aid. I do think someone will be able to get to him, but it won’t be Echo.

Echo cries after he has left (which I feel was much more in character than if she had been crying during their talk, as in the script.). Back in 7x04, Echo asked Orlando: “ It must be hard to dedicate your whole life to something that may never come.” I’ve always felt that was foreshadowing for Echo’s own arc - with the way she was saying she wouldn’t know what to do without Bellamy. I didn’t expect their relationship to end for this reason - but this is a much stronger blow for Echo than if they had just broken up for more mundane reasons. She didn’t just lose her boyfriend, she lost her king. If her arc is to make any sense, the show will have reflect on her life, identity and priorities and her find some purpose in life that’s not about Bellamy or serving another leader.

Octavia and Clarke are together in another cell - and we get a brief interaction, where Octavia tells Clarke she “finally understands” her, because she knows what it’s like to have a child you’re desperate to protect. I’m not too fond of this line, because it feels kind of obvious but also reductive - “I finally understand you” makes it sound like she finally understands who Clarke always has been, since she met her in season 1, which doesn’t make sense. It’s reducing Clarke to the role of the mother, and it would make a lot more sense if Octavia said she now understood the post-Praimfaya Clarke. But understanding was never an issue between them in season 5 - Clarke was simply standing in Blodreina's way. It was back in seasons 1-4 that Octavia had trouble understanding Clarke and her decision as a leader - something that she probably understood when she became a leader herself, responsible for a bunch of people.

Bellamy’s second big confrontation is with Clarke and Octavia. And in this one, Bellamy was much, much more openly emotional, much more vulnerable. This time, he not only told his experience to his sister and Clarke - he is now desperately pleading with Clarke to believe in him. He doesn’t bring up her feelings for him, but their connection and - in a way - his feelings for her, what he did for her, the fact he did not give up and brought her back to life in S6. They are both yelling and looking in pain and with tears in their eyes. He isn’t shouts “I am trying to save you, all of you!” But this is not about Clarke believing in him or dismissing his experiences. She accepts that what he says may be true, but refuses to give in to a man like Cadogan and let him start a war, and she stands her ground, while Octavia turns away from her brother to comfort her, looking at him disapprovingly. If someone can get to Bellamy, if his feelings could outweigh his faith and loyalty to Cadogan, it is most likely to be Clarke (It could be Octavia, of course, but the show is not choosing to focus on their relationship at the moment.)

I’d like to point out that we have seen this kind of angsty conflict between Clarke and Bellamy almost every season, and often around this part of the season, and that it always ended in an equally huge reconciliation. In season 3, it was earlier (3x05 to 3x11). In season 4 it was in 4x10/4x11 with a reconciliation in 4x12. In season 5, it lasted from 5x09 to their big reconciliation in the season 5 finale. They always end up forgiving each other because they can understand each other - and are a united team in every season finale.

I want to address something else I’ve seen people say: that it is “worrying” that Clarke has called Bellamy her best friend twice this season, after never having defined their relationship that specifically before. Which is seen by some as a sign of the show trying to “clear” that they are “platonic” - even though this really doesn’t do that. (Anyone remember a certain real life tweet going: “Recently, I married my best friend and soulmate...”?) If anything, it is a step forward, since she has previously only referred to Bellamy as one of her friends/family. What else would she call him that would give him a special place, unless you expect a love confession from her at a moment like this (or talking to Cadogan in front of everyone), which wouldn't make sense. Specifying their current relationship status of two characters feels like something you would do if that status is to change - one way or other. (I think that Bellamy has also been called Echo's boyfriend for the first time in S7.)

The struggle inside Bellamy continues as he sends Clarke to MCap - which rightfully shocks and hurts both Clarke and Octavia, But he clearly has a hard time seeing Clarke in pain. and, in spite of what he said earlier (that he can’t lie to the Shepherd), lies to Cadogan, claiming Clarke doesn’t know where the Flame is. There is no way he actually believes that - Clarke didn’t even try to pretend that she didn’t know it, and she’s struggling to hide that knowledge. Unfortunately it’s an obvious lie Cadogan sees through, but the cracks in Bellamy’s loyalty to him are starting to show.

(Many people were hoping that the MCap session would allow Bellamy to see Clarke’s memories and that this would be some kind of breakthrough that would let him realize her feelings for him and get him emotional - but I’m glad nothing like that happened, Mind violation is not a good way to bring two people together..)

Clarke, being Clarke, hurts herself rather than giving Cadogan what he wants and letting him start a war, until he promises he release her friends.

The show is really not subtle with its imagery - first we had Kane crucified in season 3, and now Clarke looks like Jesus with a crown of thorns.

So, Cadogan sends the rest of the group (Octavia, Echo, Hope, Miller, Niylah, Jordan) to an unknown location, as a collateral, so Clarke would keep her end of the deal and find the Flame for them. But he doesn’t reveal the location to Clarke - or to Bellamy, because, in his words, he doesn’t trust Clarke. But this means that he doesn’t really trust Bellamy, either - at least not when Clarke is around.

Doucette seems to be constantly hanging around Bellamy - he was there when Bellamy was reunited with his people, he appears after Bellamy’s talk with Clarke and Octavia, and he’s with Cadogan, Bellamy, Clarke and others in the team that goes to Sanctum. I don’t think it’s just because they are the Disciple version of friends - I think Cadogan has made Doucette Bellamy’s unofficial Handler, and that he’s supposed to keep an eye on him and make sure he stays loyal and doesn’t give in to the temptation of emotional attachments to his friends and family. He also has a brief interaction with Echo, where he seems amused and mildly contemptuous. Which makes me think he’ll have some interesting interactions with Clarke and possibly others in 7x13 (but mostly Clarke, especially going by the promo photos) while he is around Bellamy to remind him of his Disciple side.

There’s been a lot of speculation where the group has been sent. It’s certainly not Skyring, Etherea or Nakara or Sanctum, which means that the options are either Earth, or some new place we haven’t seen yet. It would make sense if it was the same place where Gaia was. It certainly seems that we won’t see this group before 7x14, as the upcoming episode will probably be full focused on Sanctum. The Stone on Earth has been shown to be offline - but so was the Stone on Sanctum, and that didn’t end up mattering at all.

What I don’t understand is why Cadogan thinks they won’t be able to find their way to Sanctum - which is why he didn’t let Gabriel and Raven go with them. But they do have Disciple helmets (unless all info in them has been disabled), and Jordan was around when Raven talked about the Anomaly and has spent a bit of time researching the Bardoan text on the Anomaly Stone on Bardo - so I expect him to be able to figure things out.

So many of the characters need to resolve their storylines - Echo, Hope, Jordan? The former two have character arcs that badly need resolution and character development, after they have lost everything. Hope has been driven by anger, pain and revenge all season - and it all came crashing down when she attempted to commit genocide, and unintentionally caused her mother’s death as a result. Diyoza’s last words were to be better than she was. Hope still has Octavia, who has struggled with and resolved the darkness and violence in her soul, and now she also has Jordan to bond with, as they did in their scene in the cell in this episode. They are two of the kids who grew up in isolation and raised on stories of Clarke, Bellamy, Raven, Murphy and others as legends, but with drastically different worldviews and experiences. I expect both of them to survive to the end, together with Madi, as the new generation/hopes for the future of humanity.

As for Jordan, I would say that his arc needs a resolution, but his brainwashing by Trey at the end of last season seems to have been completely forgotten and ignored. Maybe it became a casualty of the rewrites, when the show opted to go with another brainwashing/indoctrination storyline with another one of its men of color. I certainly prefer this Jordan we saw talking to Hope and comforting her, but why didn’t the show keep him that way all the time, without that really annoying Prime-apologism phase?

I feel that Octavia, on the other hand, has completed her character development, but she needs to deal with the loss of Diyoza, have some meaningful interactions with Hope, and of course, a resolution to her relationship with Bellamy.

It really struck me how little Bellamy/Octavia interactions got focus in this episode - their one scene was more focused on Bellamy's interaction with Clarke, and Octavia didn't even get a line or closeup in the scene where they were being sent off (unlike Clarke, Echo, Raven, Gabriel and Miller) nor even a moment of eye contact with Bellamy (unlike Echo and Clarke). That must mean there are going to be big Blake sibling scenes later, probably in the finale.

Sanctum

When you think Sheidheda can’t get more over the top, he does it again. I don’t know if this is a bad or good thing. If you’re doing a cartoonish villain, go all in, right? It’s kind of entertaining, though it doesn’t fit with the usual way this show does villains. This time, he actually has a throne made of skeletons! (That’s one way to use those skeletons of the Primes’ former hosts.)

He’s also borderline Villain Sue, with a bunch of incredible fighting skills that now go beyond Grounder style fight. Now he’s also really good with automatic guns. When did that happen? I mean, Madi does know how to shoot a gun, but still? The scene where he shoots all of the Children of Gabriel would’ve been much more convincing if he had given a sign to Wonkru to start shooting them, instead of doing it all by himself.

Nelson’s (Sachin)’s death was fitting for his character, and many would say it was heroic and impressive, refusing to kneel to another false god. Or one could say it was stupid and pointless - as it did not result in just his death, but also the deaths of all the people he was leading, and that he should have instead taken Emori’s advice and knelt today so he could find a way to beat Shady some other day, while saving his people. I’ll let you guess which one of these is closer to how I feel. In any case, on the Doylist level, I’m not fond of how fast the show is to kill off another bunch of people, but it is what it is, the show has always been fond of mass murder. And this is Shady’s second one this season. First he killed the majority of the Faithful, and now almost all of the Children of Gabriel - so we wouldn’t have to deal with more factions of people in the show’s endgame. And conveniently, CoG got removed from the board just before Gabriel comes back to Sanctum, Now we won’t have to have that arc followed up on. How many people are left in Sanctum now that aren’t Earthkru? There must still be quite a few of the ordinary Sanctumites there, such as Delilah’s parents, but we rarely get to see them. I would hate it if the show killed off the majority of the Sanctum residents just because they’re not major characters.

The only CoG who gets to survive is Madi’s friend Luca, the one other CoG we know. Indra, who witnesses the massacre and saves Luca, must be thinking back to how her mother knelt to save her (just like she knelt to save Madi) and hopefully realizing that her mother wasn’t a coward and did the right thing.

Meanwhile, Murphy and Emori are hiding Madi, the remaining Faithful, and now Luca, too, in the nuclear reactor. Trey, the big believer, has no problem suggesting they kneel to the guy who killed his god Russell, before Murphy points out that Shady would kill them anyway for fear they would want revenge. Oh, Shady - you killed so many people and didn't even have the decency to kill that annoying asshole Trey?

One of the best parts of the Sanctum plot in this episode is Madi comforting a really traumatized Luca - who has lost first his biological family when Shady killed the Faithful, and now his people/his real family - and telling a group of orphaned children a story of her own survival in the Shallow Valley. Whether or not this is foreshadowing for a possible return to Earth (I am in two minds if this is going to happen or not), it is a sweet moment of hope for rebuilding life and society, similar to the scene between Jordan and Hope.

Murphy confronting Nikki and telling her how and why her husband died and that his sacrifice should not be in vain, is a good scene - and won’t be pointless if it finally results in some sort of character development for Nikki, who has been so one-note throughout this season. But she is simply not that interesting. The one interesting thing about her plot is that she could remind Murphy of who was back in season 1, but the show, usually not subtle with parallels, hasn’t done anything with that so far.

There also some lovely Memori moments - they are the one couple in the show who are getting to be happy and have these ordinary coupley scenes. And you know that I have always shipped Memori. But the problem here is - there have been many cute Memori scenes this season; they have both proved to be good leaders, who take care of people, playing the role Clarke and Bellamy did once; Murphy has been proving every episode that he’s a real hero now, coming a long way not just since season 1 but from his questionable and selfish choices in season 6, too. He gets told “I’m proud of you, Murphy” again by someone, this time Indra. All of this is very nice, but repetitive. After so many episodes this season have shown us these things - we get it. We don’t doubt anymore that Murphy and Emori are heroes. Sheidheda is 100% a villain. There is no moral ambiguity - except with minor characters: the only unpredictable thing about the storyline is what Nikki will do and whether Knight will stop obeying Shady. It’s not that this is a terrible storyline, and on rewatch, it was fine in this episode - but the other storyline is way more interesting, and there are so many other characters that are in pressing need of character resolutions, with 4 episodes to go.

At the end, we’re left with a stalemate, as Murphy is captured by Shady, but Shady can’t move to capture or kill Emori and the people they are protecting in the reactor, because she could blow it up, so he leaves Knight to wait for them to come out.

And then, finally, Cadogan and the group come from the Anomaly. Why did we have that Disciple so dramatically disconnect the Sanctum Stone in 7x04? Another abandoned subplot? Wonkru simply moved the Stone and brought it tot Shady, and it worked just fine.

(I suspect the Flame may turn out to be impossible to repair or useless, because the show has been emphasizing Madi’s remaining memories so much this season - and that wasn’t needed for this plot, since Shady also remembers the Anomaly Stone and could have been the one to tell Wonkru about it. The Disciples may end up trying to get her into MCap to see if she remembers the Final Code that Bedca used.)

I’m ecstatic that the Bardo storyline is finally converging with the Sanctum one. But that somewhat initially ruined by the bad direction in the last scene, which made it less clear which of the characters were back on Sanctum, until you went back and paused the scene. Clarke asking “What the hell happened here?” and Murphy’s reply “Gee, where to start” was great, but the fact that so many people were asking “Did Bellamy come to Sanctum with them?” and weren’t sure of it before the Inside the episode and sneak peeks came out, shows how poorly this scene was done. It should’ve made it crystal clear that Bellamy, Raven and Gabriel were coming back to Sanctum together with Clarke and Cadogan - getting people excited for the next episode.

Rating: 6.5/10

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Recap of the Garden, episode 7x02 of The 100, watching so you don’t have to. Spoilers below:

So, we learned in The Garden, a few things: the story goes forward and backward in time from when Octavia first arrived on "Skyring" the first stop in the anomaly from Sanctum (we learn the anomaly connects different planets at different points. Skyring is what the E3 folks called Planet Beta. On this planet, Diyoza arrived first, found a cabin that just happens to have a wall decoration that looks a lot like Lexa's head gear. Diyoza was there for 3 months before Octavia showed up...even though she entered the anomaly only briefly and returned to Sanctum moments later (or what seemed to be moments later).

O finds D about to give birth and helps her with Hope. She winds up spending 10 years there, total, unable to leave, but builds a nice, happy life with D and the kid. D tells O this is the best place. No threats, plenty of food and fresh water. She loves it there. Even O finds happiness there. So, we have a little parallel of Clarke's life alone on Earth in her "eden" with Madi.

We also still have this show's issue of giving Bellamy off-screen redemption. Echo, we learn from Hope, still got dragged by O behind her back, while O, it seems, never talked about the shit Bellamy did, like committing genocide and stood by as Lincoln was murdered. Hope does at one point ask Echo, "what is it about B that sensible women are willing to die for him?" Hope has a bit of resentment built up that throughout her childhood, O kept trying to leave Skyring to find Bellamy, instead of just being content to live with her and her mom in their little paradise. We watch O have a breakdown over not being able to leave and later writing her letter of contrition to Bellamy.

I cannot emphasis enough how grotesque it is to see internalized misogyny written into this show, which otherwise would not taint all the female characters it affects. Especially O. She owes her brother NOTHING.

In the "present," Gabriel, Echo and adult Hope arrive at the cabin she grew up in, but it is empty; Hope is looking for a special key that will allow them to escape "Skyring" and travel to another planet, Bardo, where Bellamy supposedly is. She shows them a secret room under the cabin that just happens to have its own anomaly stone. It works when you have a code that you punch in the right combination of symbols. If you have this code, the "anomaly" or bridge as Hope calls it, rises up from the lake beside the cabin and you can use it to leave. Unfortunately, Hope's "code" that she had written on a little slip of paper, got all wet and is now unreadable (I should mention, when they and Octavia and D before them, entered the anomaly and arrived on Skyring, they had to swim up from the lake). Gabriel tries some cleverness with a candle, but can't retrieve it.

At one point Echo examines the cabin's fireplace (covered in candles Lexa would have approved of but begs so many questions...where did they get the wax?) and realizes it is warm: someone has been there and is still there. They find a creepy looking man hiding in one of the rooms and Echo sees a digital countdown glowing from his arm. Hope explains he's a prisoner, sent there it turns out, for a five year sentence (nice sentence). He has lived alone for some time and made some interesting collections, including a skull doll he calls Hope. He has also, it turns out, dug up some bodies to keep him company. Hope says they need this guy because he's the key to them getting out of there: he's a "disciple" of whomever The Master is (oh no, Doctor Who ref), someone named Anders or Andrews, possibly back on Bardo, where everyone is a warrior and if you're weak and don't pull your weight, you get sent to the peaceful reserve that is Skyring. Because that makes sense.

Do those Bardos sound familiar?

Anywhat, Echo and Gabriel examine the bodies this guy dug up and Gabriel realizes they were from the Eligius 3 (I'm still wondering how Gabriel knows EVERYTHING), because one of the bodies has a mind drive. He retrieves it and wouldn't you know, he just happens to have with him (completely unaffected by their long swim in the lake), a "memory reader" that he can plug the drive into and, yes, *see* the dead man's memories. This is also where Gabriel explains how he and Russell prime MacGyver'd the mind drives long ago to not only contain memories (basically a built-in camera to your brain so anyone can learn what you were doing after you die, yikes. Hope that guy didn't jerk off too much), but an entire person. Something Becca Franco did a few hundred years previously with The Flame.

So...they watch the footage and the first person we see is Becca and from her talk with the dead man, she knew about the anomaly or wormhole, and was excited for the journey he would take. This opens up a lot of stuff, but we can hardly call them plot holes anymore, just massive retcons.

And just quick, when did Octavia learn how to swim? I don't remember that. Must have been when she was underground for six years...swimming in a river of human blood...

Anywhy, Echo and Hope aren't particularly warm to one another (for above reasons), and Hope (who has remembered everything for some reason), knows a LOT. It the flashbacks, we see her grow up over the years with O and D, who schools her in English and math, and they make a rather large garden full of tomatoes and carrots and other plants unlikely to be on this planet, but...ok. It is while digging in the garden (that they've been digging in for a while), that they discovered a dead body...one of the daft punk disciples in his suit and helmet.

How did he get there? No clue, but O saw a way back to Sanctum. She's been trying to dive back down to the bottom of the lake to reach the bridge, but no luck. This suit would extend her air and hopefully put her through. D isn't happy about it and she later destroys the helmet so O can't use it. They fight and D asks her why she needs to get back to Bellamy so badly, why aren't we enough and I'm like, good question D.

O, however, is full of internalized misogyny and is oddly sentimental about the judgmental brother who left her to die. Another score for Bellamy in not having to do any work, all the women on the show will do it for him, just by being written to feel terrible about how *they* treated *him.*

Wow. Ok.

So O gets herself right, decides to write a letter in a bottle to B instead and throws it in the lake, hoping it will pass through the anomaly and B will find it. I mean, holy shit, that is a hell of fat chance, but whatever. She goes back to her quiet, happy life with D and Hope, with emphasis that she loves D, like she loves Bellamy. No homo, folks!

In the "present," Echo fulfills that fat chance by finding the letter in the bottle, on dry land, next to the cabin. Hope takes it away from her and we learn how it wound up on shore: sometime around her tenth year, the happy trio got visitors. The anomaly rose from the lake and a bunch of daft punk disciples with weapons showed up, with the bottled letter. They want Octavia. D tries to cover for her, while O hides Hope under the floor. D and O are both taken by the disciples into the anomaly and disappear, the letter left behind for little Hope to find.

At the same time, Gabriel watches the magical memory tour and learns that the dead man managed to accidentally find the key code to activate the stone. Now this is interesting. Earlier, Gabriel said everyone has a biometric code of their own to get them through this "bridge" to another world. If that's so, how would this person have gone through, if the code he randomly found (out of a billion possible combinations), wasn't also keyed to his dna? No one answer that. While looking for something to write with, Gabriel leaves his magical memory reader in the cabin where our little disciple dude finds it, freaks out and refuses to give it back. Why does he care what the others do with it? He's welcome to stay in paradise...but of course he's messed up, or brainwashed, he serves The Master and he smashes the device (but not the mind drive in it)

Oh poop!

Looks like they're going to be stuck there until the disciples return in five years to collect their little friend. This episode, for all its goofy bits, actually didn't suck. Almost anything with Diyoza in it automatically raises the bar, and we did get a good glimpse of their life on Skyring and how D mellowed out almost instantly, though O kept holding out for escape. We get a good sense of their connection and caring for one another and Hope, which is in stark contrast to all we never really got to see of Clarke and Madi alone on Earth. Five years, too (well, six, but it was supposed to be five). Next week: we're back to the shitty people on Sanctum.

#t100 #recaps #7x02 #the garden #spoilers

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kellyvela · 6 years

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Two very interesting scenes they cut:

Oh, I just realized they cut the Ghost scene. Ha. There was a bit here where Jon came out of the Crypt and Ghost came up to the him and he petted him and said, “Take care of her, watch over her for me.” But I guess those direwolves are expensive– I guess it got cut. Ah well, Ghost is somewhere there running around.

—Bryan Cogman in 7x02 commentary

I had a scene in the episode that we didn't ever make it, we never did shoot it, it didn't make it past the first or second draft, where Tyrion and Theon had a scene, because I thought well we should give them a scene together, two our best actors, they are here, they are in Dragonstone, they've got a lot to talk about, but it ended that just being a recap of everything between, you know, and they really talk about Sansa the whole time, which is great and I but we all watched that, we all saw it, we know what happened, we and and so while it just it was sort of dramatically and nerd, you know as satisfying as it would be to see Theon talk about Sansa whom with he had this really intense ahh but they both had intense kind of time with her. Ultimately you know it just felt like, ‘well then there was a time where you know we escaped from the castle’, ‘oh well yeah’, so it's, we had to really avoid that and still have to a lot because there's a fanservice each thing that makes you, and you know there's a lot of that still on the show because for dramatic purposes and for story purposes they have to talk about certain things but you got to find a way to sort pithily do it, you know and assume that all those recap conversations happened off screen.

—Game of Thrones' Writer Bryan Cogman: In Conversation (Part 2)

Don’t you love that Sansa is so important in the story that even when she is not there, other people are always talking about her?

#Sansa Stark #Bryan Cogman #Bryan Cogman is a Sansa Stan and a Jonsa Warrior #You can keep Alan Taylor We have Bryan Cogman #Did I tell you that Bryan's wife looks like Sansa? All blue eyes red hair and taller than him...#Oh Bryan!

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Hello, Cruel World: 7x02 Recap

Then:

Castiel accidentally swallowed some Leviathan

Now:

Things pick up right where 7x01 left off. Cas is gone, and his vessel is oozing more goo than normal.

He wanders off, leaving Bobby and Dean stunned. Sam, meanwhile, is 100% fruitbat, getting tortured by Lucifer. Dean and Bobby save him from his hallucinations, and all three head out in search of Leviathan!Cas.

Cas, now even more gooey than ever, heads for the water. The others reach the water’s edge just as he descends into the lake, like some sadistic baptism, turning into a vortex of black goo.

o_O uh, no thank you o_O

The good news? The leviathan exploded in in a reservoir that’s connected to the public water supply! Yay!

Dean then notices Cas’s trench coat in the water, and fishes it out.

He gently folds it, holding it close to his body, caressing it with all the pain of loss and words left unsaid (Ha, Boris can’t write. I leave that heavy lifting to the very talented Natasha.) (Natasha: just key smashes in pain.) Long story short: Dean holds that coat like the last memento of a dead loved one, because it is. Bobby and Sam both watch Dean with eagle eyes, and it’s sad. I couldn’t really see through all the water on my face though. Also, when he squeezes the coat briefly before the camera cuts away? Guh.

Sidenote: I can’t imagine being in the fandom this season!! Like, Cas was supposed to be dead, like dead-dead, like really, really, ‘Jared didn’t spoil this one’ dead. Dark times. (Natasha: I wasn’t in fandom but was watching live since season 5. I never believed he was truly dead so I believe I wasn’t terribly bothered. My heart is a lump of granite.)

And the leviathan make their grand entrance into society via a montage set to the Doobie Brothers’ “Black Water”....a little too on the nose show, but I like it.

Back at Bobby’s, Dean turns to what he does best: looking after Sammy. He makes him hydrate and protein-ate, and he checks his stitched up hand.

I’m a shallow son of a bitch, but concerned Dean lit like this is A+ aesthetic.

Sam confesses that he’s not doing well --he can’t tell what’s reality anymore. As Dean tries to wrap his brain around what Sam is going through, we get a better glimpse of Lucifer’s fun torture time for Sam. After all, “You can’t torture someone who has nothing left for you to take away.”

Meanwhile, girl!Leviathan finds an episode of Dr. Sexy and decides she wants to be a doctor when she grows up.

Bobby checks in with Dean on how he’s holding up. (Caring Dad feels everywhere!) Dean deflects.

Bobby calls out Dean with, “You just lost one of the best friends you ever had, your brother’s in the bell jar, and Purgatory’s most wanted are surfing the sewer lines, but yeah, yeah, I get it. You’re – you're fine.” (Their little exchange of yoga and idjit, and their mutual little smiles is just beautiful. #bringbackbobby)

At Stockville High School, the swim team gets a surprise visit from a couple bloodthirsty purgatory monsters.

At Sioux Falls General Hospital, our very own Jody Mills is experiencing her own special kind of torture. While recovering from an appendicitis, she listens to her roommate drone on and on about dubious hospital practices. Dr. Sexy checks in with our favorite sheriff.

Back at Bobby’s, Sam caught the swim team case. Bobby and Sam convince Dean to check it out.

girl!Leviathan and Edgar (listen, I didn’t explain his entrance, but 6 years on, we know who I’m talking about) meet at a playground(!) and talk about the swim team attack. Apparently it was a bit unsightly, but the girl!Leviathan has an idea. Cut to the hospital. Dr. Sexy finds her and she makes quick work of turning into him. Kids grow up so fast these days.

At the high school, Agent Dean notices black goo and instantly knows what he’s dealing with.

Back at the hospital, Jody wakes to see Dr. Sexy secret off with her roommate. I think she’s starting to suspect her doctor is a monster.

She sets to checkout what fresh hell awaits her in her small hell-mouth town.

Dean checks in with Sam (and Lucifer) about the swim team. Goo? Check. Dean asks Sam how he’s doing. Aagh. Spoiler: He’s not doing ok.

Hopped up on gooooood pain meds, Jody continues to track her doctor, but when she sees him play a particular nasty game of Operation by eating her roommate’s liver, she runs, and faints in the hallway.

Jody wakes up in her hospital bed to the ministrations of her nurse. She sputters, starting to ask about Doctor Gaines, when he swans in, patting the corner of his mouth delicately. She quickly spins a lie about itching stitches and searching for a doctor to explain her presence in the hall. Doctor Sexy Leviathan leers at her. The moment they leave she rips out her IV and mutters “Kiss my ass, Doctor Monsterface.” Jody. Never change.

Meanwhile, Sam’s still trying to out-logic his hallucinations. If this is a dream, Lucifer should prove it by showing him the cage. Lucifer tells him that the Matrix only ends when Sam ends it...like ENDS it, ends it. Sam shouts at Lucifer to shut up, which really bolsters his narrative of doing fine when Bobby walks in. “You’ve beat the devil before, kid,” Bobby tells Sam. Lucifer, meanwhile, stabs Bobby in the chest. Not distracting at all.

Jody calls Bobby and tells him that her surgeon is a monster who ate another patient’s liver. “You and I killed zombies that one time,” she reminds him. He can help her. Bobby rolls out to help her leaving delicate flower Sam behind to man the phones.

At the hospital two swim team members and Edgar meet up with Doctor Gaines. Leviathan!Gaines gives them a tour of the facility. They can eat someone every day here since people die in hospitals all the time. The swim team members jump ship and become hospital staff, preparing to feast. Edgar moves on. He’s got other fish to fry.

Sam continues to clean guns when Dean pulls up. Dean grabs the open beer from Sam’s hand (DEAN) and fills Sam in on the status of the hunt. Dean demands Sam’s help while Bobby goes off to save Jody Mills.

Bobby wheels Jody out of the hospital and shuttles her away into a taxi. (After which, I am sad to report, we don’t see her for the whole rest of the episode.) Bobby then heads into the hospital to investigate the leviathreat level. He finds patients rushed immediately from botched minor surgeries to the autopsy table - a.k.a. lunch counter.

Meanwhile, Dean and Sam drive to the hunt, Dean asking after Sam’s welfare. Dean suggests professional help even though, “You are never gonna be okay, Sam.” </heart breaks> Not the kind of BM scenes we like to watch, dudes.

While Sam’s having his heart ripped out in the Impala, the real Dean arrives back at Bobby’s, calling for Sam. Oh thank god. Dean Bean may be going through a long dark teatime of the soul but he’s not so dark that he’s hurting Sammy. Sam is, of course, gone.

Sam and “Dean” arrive at a corporate building where fake Dean scoffs at Sam’s ability to deal. “You think this is an office building, right?” he asks, leading Sam into a nearly empty warehouse instead.

Fake Dean chuckles, then turns into Lucifer. Lucifer tries to goad Sam into killing himself to end the hallucination (always, btw, the most horrifying part of the djinn narrative).

Back at the hospital, Bobby falls into a big pile of nope when he’s interrupted by Doctor Gaines. The leviathan immediately recognizes Bobby - he saw him through the angel’s eyes. (MY HEART) Bobby tries to shoot up the doctor but only explodes his head into recombining goo. It’s enough to let him escape.

The real Dean pulls up outside of the warehouse he tracked Sam to and opens the door. Lucifer turns into a second Dean and Sam immediately trains his gun on the real Dean.

Dean talks Sam down. He reminds Sam that he’s been to Hell. Torture feels different than the pain of the real world. He pulls up Sam’s hand and presses the wound hard. Lucifer begins to flicker. Sam pushes the wound hard enough to make it bleed. “You’ve gotta believe me,” Dean tells him. “You gotta make it stone number one and build on it, do you understand?” Sam nods, still reeling from the experience.

The phone rings. It’s Bobby. He fills them in on Doctor Gaines and the leviathan threat and the boys head back to Bobby’s lot. They’re gonna be okay… And then they get to Bobby’s house. It’s been torched. Nothing but burned books (CRETINS) and no sign of Bobby. They split up to search the junk yard. Dean dials Bobby’s “direct hotline you should not have this number” phone and leaves the following totally okay not at all unraveling voicemail:

“You can not be in that crater back there. I can’t-- If you’re gone, I swear I’m going to strap my beautiful mind brother into the car and I’m gonna drive us off the pier. You asked me how I was doing? Well NOT GOOD. You said you’d be here. Where are you?”

Dean Bean.

Sam and Dean call for Bobby in the junkyard. Sam finds Edgar and Dean shoots Edgar’s head full of lead (but it doesn’t last long for those shifty little guys). Dean drops a car on Edgar just after Sam gets knocked out by a tire iron. Dean’s got a broken leg, an unconscious brother, a dead best friend, and - you know - suicidal thoughts. So season 7 is starting out super great.

Dean calls an ambulance which takes the brothers to - you guessed it - Sioux Falls General. Extra bonus, Lucifer shows up for the ride.

Back at Bobby’s lot, Edgar recombines...

Mississippi Quotes, Won't You Keep on Shinin' on Me?

Why would the devil holodeck you a whole new life when he could just kick your ass all over the cage?

I keep my marbles in a locked friggin’ box.

What am I chopped brains on toast?

We’ve got a whole lot of NC17 Schizz-nickel right over there.

Having a little bag lady moment?

Bobby Singer. My hero.

This discussion does not require a weapon’s discharge.

It’s like a salad, but with pie!

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elizabethrobertajones · 7 years

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Do you think we'll see Dean and Jody discuss Cas? Does Jody even know Cas exists? They told her s8 angels exits and she was claire but still i thibk textually they never mentioned his name around her? Im guessing they are gonna discuss Deans feeling about Mary since Jody knew her but Cas?

I don’t know, which I know I say to like basically all questions about speculation but this one is something I don’t really have a clue about and I’m not even sitting on my thumbs pretending not to have an opinion because I’d rather not say anything on the record until I know I’m right or not… I really, genuinely, to the best of my ability to sound it all out and guess from the available information, don’t know :P

It depends how they handle Cas being gone overall, whether Dean’s openly, loudly mourning him all the time every episode constantly, which is a detail where I’d only be able to offer you a confident speculation on the eve of this episode anyway after seeing the first 2. If Dean goes stoic and jaw-twitchy but quiet about it then probably not but that’s just like… super obvious and short term.

In the mean time, please assume the tin foil hat position you’d take to listen to a conversation that sounds like this:

There’s quite a lot to pack in with meeting Patience, and getting our guys some good face to face time with Jody for any emotional support they need to sponge off her. Sam doesn’t seem to be around so he may be off with Jack, but if he wasn’t, he’d probably want to learn how to be a mom to him from Jody, for all we know :P Thematically it might sort of be that way anyhow - if Patience doesn’t come in direct contact with Sam it seems ridiculously unlikely she’s not going to be thematically connected to him and therefore Jack through an extremely easy join the dots between 13x03 and 1x09. (Sam already kinda went one round with this sort of thing in 12x04 so in a way he’s got his booster shot of dealing with it directly so it can just be storytelling mirrors for him :P)

Certainly Jody is more connected to Mary symbolically and in general the Wayward Sisters stuff has been more about parenting and those dynamics recently, with 11x12 looking at how Jody copes and teasing us with hindsight for Mary’s return with Dean talking to her about wishing his mom had been around, and in 12x06 and 12x22 she and Mary sort of bounce off each other as moms directly in a continuation of that - in 12x16 she’s not around except on the other end of phonecalls but Dean’s carrying on parenting Claire as a hunter a lil bit.

Of all of those, 11x12 was the only one to make a nod to Cas with Claire holding grumpy cat in one of her scenes, but the show has decided to treat him a lot as just the inciting incident to get her onto the road hunting by dragging her into the life, while Dean does the thing he does around feisty wayward teenagers, and probably was mostly responsible for switching Claire’s amateur detective attempt onto a hunting thing in 10x20. I don’t want to make Claire cringe but I think she thought he was actually kinda cool and inspired her or something, because she had not had any interest in the supernatural side of things before that episode…

Despite all her connections to Cas I think Dean sort of birthed hunter!Claire, so the story sort of wanders that direction and leaves Cas behind because he’s more like Azazel in Claire’s story than anything, even if a very sad soft squishy Azazel who gave her a stuffed toy for her birthday :P Still they played it like her forgiving and hugging Cas was about the same as Dean finally getting to shoot Azazel, in both case freeing them to go do their job with the angsty backstory resolved…

In any case, I think Cas is probably an emergency contact Jody has for Claire-related stuff, although whether they told her to or not, she’d probably always call Sam and Dean first because she knows and understands them (and has met them), and I think the story is asking us to believe that with this symbolism of Claire getting past what Cas did to her family, she’s in a new stage of life he’s not a part of in the same way even if she does cling onto grumpy cat, and Cas is still family to people who consider Jody as family, who she considers family. Sort of shunting him from awkward dad no. 3 of 4 as per 10x20′s recap and symbolism to a weird uncle or something. (Although if Jody has mom symbolism to both Claire and Dean, that makes them siblings and Cas her brother in law… this found family stuff is really difficult :P)

So there’s all that shaping my expectations - Claire’s not in the episode and she’s our connection between Cas and Jody. Previous episodes have made it clear that Sam and Dean really hate calling even beloved friends with their shit and don’t tell Jody alarmingly huge things like that Mary came back from death. She’s been offering a shoulder to Dean personally while he’s been going through all his stuff, and in 9x08 I think Sam did open up to Jody more than Dean even when they were all in the same room, never mind in that and 7x12 they got split up from Dean and actually bonded (And I think this is also a quote from Kim Rhodes but also just something fairly obvious, that because Sam was the one connected to her more in her intro episode and ended up shooting her zombie son for her, they’ve always had a closer emotional bond via shared trauma).

I don’t think it’s showing that Sam and Jody aren’t as close now to have her switch focus to Dean but that Jody is determined to get Dean to open up to her *too*. In 12x06 they have really different attitudes about her when Sam makes the comment about Dean’s “animated Japanese erotica” which show how they’ve grown in different directions with Jody. So I think Sam’s closeness to her is fairly accepted fact and now Dean’s the tough nut to crack for her :P Anyway she’s made the offer two or three times now that she’s there to talk if Dean in particular needs her (definitely 10x08 and 12x06… Can’t remember if she said as much in 11x12 although they did also have an actual personal conversation in that episode, so one point to Jody there). I think 12x06 made it clear there’s still an owed conversation of greater than that opening up and spilling the beans on what’s making him emo right now, so there’s that.

And Cas and Mary have been connected all through season 12, in their arcs, in the subtext, in basically everything, and Dean textually named that in 12x22 that in the start of the season he’d “got Cas back, got Mom back” and in 12x23 of course he loses both, again, in a highly inter-connected way, and so again they’re going to be parallel lines to him, though again I think showing how he feels differently about one and the other and hopefully we get to unpack what those individual losses mean by the way of having both at once (and Crowley, who often in these cases is included to put a finger on the scale :P).

One of the things confusing me right now is of last night’s behind the scenes set peeking which revealed a Turducken Slammer relaunch from the ever-hopeful Biggerson’s, which is not letting frequent murder and mayhem and dodgy meat recalls on its premises stop it from trying. Even if it’s as overall irrelevant to the story in the sense of being mentioned or actually explored as the Mystery Spot sign in 12x01, it’s still telling us something and making connections. I mean yeah it can just be worldbuilding continuity but it’s always picked for a reason and they know what all these signs mean and how to connect them, which is why we have the beer language for example.

And Jody is pretty deeply connected to season 7 and Dean’s arc. And this connection was obliquely referenced in 12x06 in that moment I already mentioned, where Sam outs Dean’s porn habits to Jody. It was a nod from Yockey that he’d watched past Jody episodes because in every way it was a season 12 style rehash of Sam’s “strictly into Dick” comment, which was from a Jody episode. And… look, maybe this is the best way to explain how I felt the season 12 references were kind of out of this world in their scope and intelligence :P

For starters, that comment was not just a run of the mill Dick joke, that was a Robbie level Dick joke, which collected up a hilarious character thing for Sam (his fucked up moment when he should have made the barb, his determination to hang onto the Best Zinger Of His Life until Dean next gave him an opportunity and bless Sam’s cotton socks he delivered it like a pro :P) and Dean’s spiralling obsession with Dick as a Dick or Anime thing. Dean’s anime-watching was from 7x01, when he was waiting for Godstiel to blow up the planet in despair, and was at just about the lowest point we’ve ever seen him. In 7x02 Bobby gives him the “You just lost your best friend” pep talk, which is a role of comforting parental figure Dean then went and lost that season when Bobby died. And in the end of 7x02 Dean reveals how Not Fine he is to Bobby’s answerphone, which is important that it’s never commented on again but I think affects how Bobby treats him and in the subtext of 7x09 you have to know all that happened.

In 7x09 Bobby’s on his farewell tour of comforting advice to his adopted sons, in the last great set of retconning episodes to embed him permanently into their backstory as having always been there for them, to make it hurt juuust that much more than it already does. Towards the end of the episode he has another talk with Dean that mirrors advice Dean will get from Frank and Ness in 7x11 and 7x12, and *that* is opened up by Dean getting drugged by the turducken slammer and going on about how he doesn’t care about how he doesn’t care, and that he feels great for the first time since Cas and the black goo. Like, wow, his depression and hurt and betrayal didn’t go anywhere just because he said he was fine, who knew :P

And that’s the backstory to Dean’s obsession over killing Dick, who has taken everything from him by this point in season 7, told through the medium of anime and sandwiches and somehow always ending up about Cas and Dean’s feelings for him. The anime was an attempt to not care and not think about it that the slammer actually inflicted on Dean, and was used to get Dean to tell us how he really felt. By 7x12 it’s a joke for Sam to make implying Dean’s into lowercase dick, with one of those false binaries the show loves making. And like in season 13 Dean’s lost a love interest and a parental figure, and now things are really blurry about which one hurts more in this short run of episodes before they both reappear in the narrative and make it confusing. 7x11 makes the hurt most about Bobby. 7x12 subtextually tells us rather a lot about Cas, especially by making a Bobby figure to contrast in the background with the lady in the shop who literally calls Dean an idjit at some point, I think, or some other Bobby-ism, to make it clear that Ness is definitely not standing in for that and all those Cas parallels are probably where it’s at while Dean fangirls over him :P

And nope I’m not even done unpacking the Yockey Robbie Edlund turducken because of course JODY is all tied up in this completely. She’s incidentally in 7x02 as a useful local beloved character who can get menaced by Dr Sexy and let them know there’s leviathan nearby, and so she’s pretty embedded in the early Leviathan worldbuilding. Of course Edlund being Edlund, while the lil girl leviathan is channel surfing for ideas, there’s a Biggerson’s advert, I think the same one that plays in 7x03 or 7x22 about their pie salad bar (it’s like a salad bar, but pie!) and in the end she lands on wanting to be a Dr Sexy when she grows up.

(Stop me when you think this might somehow subtextually be about Dean :P)

The Dr Sexy leviathan has an amusingly childlike view on being a surgeon as a result of forming its opinions on that job while being a little girl, and apparently not listening to the memories of the poor guy it ate except to get a frightening knowledge of anatomy. It very much acts the part of being a doctor on TV who can just wheel patients off to perform unnecessary surgery, as per the malpractice of our favourite sexy doctor on TV - and there’s a thing to contemplate about “I’m not a doctor, I just play one one TV” but that’s digressing :P But it goes and menaces Jody and Bobby goes and saves her, and Robbie brings her back 2 more times in season 7, once in 7x06 to thank Bobby for saving her, and to link them romantically so she can even more handily take over the parental role by being romantically linked to their adopted father, which is just a sort of easy association to help. And in 7x12 of course she’s just there and helping and mourning Bobby a lil bit with Sam (since Dean was the one in the focus for mourning Bobby in 7x11), drinking his dubiously won scotch from 11x16 (… Rufus didn’t have to let him have that one, Bobby WAS insisting it was a ghost :P I think he just wanted Bobby to have a win after seeing how down he was.) But that IS a Jody episode so it would have been on Yockey’s list for homework for 12x06 and it contained the anime/Dick thing.

And, if he’d watched the deleted scene, at the end of the episode Dean makes it clear that he’s not sitting alone in the dark watching anime, he is strictly into Dick, and goes and reads an article on Dick “erecting” a tower.

(I hope it is clear how much I love the Dick references in season 7 by now and I’m not sorry, they started it :P)

So yeah. Jody is already intrinsically linked into a ridiculous chunk of the Dean/Cas subtext from season 7, the absolute wild nonsense that Edlund and Robbie were messing around with with pie and turducken and Dr Sexy and anime and Dick, to create the absolutely most ridiculous, like… no one part of it on its own in isolation doesn’t make you cry laughing, bit of storytelling (that, of course, added up into a full picture, just makes you cry a lot in earnest for poor Dean right then).

To me this is the picture of Dean mourning Cas in season 7, and the unique elements to season 7 are the anime (already referenced in season 12 just as an aside and I don’t think as anything more than a witty reference to past canon except that Dean was “kinda bummed” about Cas being gone (and don’t worry, I’m getting to Berens :P)) and the turducken, and Jody as one of the key characters wandering through all this picking up the emotional baton from Bobby, which she has been attempting to use on them ever since season 9, when they got back in contact with her after neglecting her all of season 8.

(And, oh gosh, I stared out the window to try and collect my thoughts for the next paragraph and washed up on thinking about Sam going and crashing out on Jody over the Dean in Purgatory period instead of hitting a dog and ending up with Amelia, like Dean with Lisa except by the time Dean gets back Sam’s probably been whipped into shape and is wandering around Sioux Falls in a deputy uniform…)

Anyway yeah, to go back to 13x03 finally… If the Turducken sign isn’t portentous of anything, I’m still seeing the Gas n Sip sign, in the maroon colours rather than blue one, but still, in a Berens episode. And if you can’t get mourning Cas in season 7 via Jody and a turducken related things to stick, you can totally shortcut through the fairly simple steps of Berens + Gas n Sip = 9x06 and assume whatever personal feelings stuff Dean and Jody talk about, this is a great way to cram Cas into the background via the enormous glowing yellow sun that has come to represent him. (And, of course, it was Berens who had the “morning, Sunshine” line for us in 12x03.)

So I think the set stuff and character stuff all have some fairly good slap to the back of the head things for Dean to maybe open up to Jody or at the very least for whatever he says to her to be heavily subtextually about Cas even if Jody asks about Mary. Because Dean’s wearing weirdly Cas-coded clothes, and Jody is wearing the family unity red n blue plaid colours. The maroon Gas n Sip seems to be more about family and even Wayward Sisters, since it was prominently used behind Claire in 12x16 and maroon has been a lot about family because of the infamous red hoodie that Kevin, Charlie and Cas all wore, and that Mary was put in maroon within an episode of getting back (and Chuck tried to cash in on it in 11x21 to make himself look harmless and cute and relatable in the same hoodie). But even in 12x16 having the Gas n Sip sun looking over Claire, with her connections to Cas, made it seem like he was watching over her too. The colours change the meaning in some ways but the overall message is the same. I think in 13x03 we have to remember it’s also going to be about the Wayward Sisters so whether Jody and Dean are having a personal conversation or not, the sun might be about Cas but the overall thing might be a more neutral family building thing for the main arc stuff. If it was a blue Gas n Sip I’d immediately think it was all about Cas and oozing tragic subtext *everywhere* and completely unavoidably.

(it might also just be that they’re maroon because Biggerson’s are and maybe there’s some sort of corporate alliance of Gas n Sips connected to Biggerson’s, because, after all, Dick Roman ended up owning both franchises and by 7x23 you can see that both are involved in his masterplan, which is part of why I love so much Cas is then intimately connected to both later while still in a gloomy penance mood about the whole thing and everything he’s ever done since…)

… So to actually answer your question, I can see some really really convoluted reasons in the history of the show that if Dean and Jody have their big important “seriously how are you” talk in this exact location while hanging out and hugging in front of all these signs, that they might either not mention Cas at all because he’s not a part of the openly stated story going on between Dean and Jody and all this family stuff and Wayward Sisters and everything absorbed into the entire chunk of the show about parental relationships, of which Jody has been a part since 7x06 thanks to Robbie. Or it’s a part of the emotional backstory to Dean losing Cas which Edlund kicked into high gear in 7x02 while dibsing all the important Dean and Bobby conversations which shine a light on Dean’s loss and Cas, also dragging Jody into a ridiculous web of Dr Sexy and stuff that Robbie and then much much later Yockey were playing around with.

Either way,

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I just saw your response and I agree with you, like I saw the series last year and I ended up getting into this ship, but I left it aside, because in the end I was almost sure that it would end Dany, but with the passing (I think Sansa is destined to be a Queen and as Jon said his place is in the North, which Dany could not bear to stay there and not him, since the I even wanted to leave after a day at her castle), so even with these moments of sadness reading the spoilers +

I have faith, the fadom is growing a lot, J & D use scenes from Jonsa to create fanart, the mentions involving her sexually Jon , This “war” between the ships and MAINLY the development of the two (for me they were not going to waste so much time in scenes that have double meaning, just to be something between brothers), since when others have sex it will be for Pure attractionPs: sorry for the size, I got carried away PS2: Did not fit the whole question into one ask

Please! I love long asks. Your message is the best Jonsa one I received in a long time. So thank you! 😘😘

I agree that the fans are growing! Even James Hibberd mentioned Jon/Sansa fans during his 7x02 recap.Sure he called us pervs, but I will take it! Glad to know that everyone isaware there are fans of the show who do see a potential match here.

I have no idea how this show will end, I just know there isa whole story behind each look, each line, each pause. Since we are all about leaksthese days, the latest 7x04 preliminary outline that just got leaked revealshow much the writers think about these little things. And for Jon to be thatcrazy protective over one sibling who he was least attached to LITERALLY MAKESNO SENSE to me. I expect him to behave like this with Arya (his precious little sister who he loved more than anyone else), not Sansa. To me it isinteresting that in this preliminary outline Jon is not physically attackingTheon. It is something that has been added later I assume. In this outline,they mention that Jon’s tone tells Theon that his death wouldn’t have been an unpleasantthought to him. They want to make it clear to Theon and the audience that Jon hates him.I think a glare, and tone are more than enough to establish that in a show like Game of thrones. Usually this is all we get from this show, we rarely get direct lines that reveal feelings. So maybe they changed their minds and wanted to show that Jon is extremely angry at Theon but a part of mebelieves the physical attack was added just to bring up Sansa. To show thateven when he is so mad, and he wants someone dead, he is sparing him because hesaved Sansa. I am of course basing this on the 3 confirmed leaks, for all Iknow this scene will be cut.

I feel the same applied to Jon and Littlefinger scene. There was literally no reason for Littlefinger to bring up Sansa and Jon going crazy over it. I get that they wanted a Ned Stark parallel but Littlefinger said so many terrible things. Jon could’ve choked him for any of those statement and fans would’ve still seen the parallel. Maybe they are just trying to portray Jon as a really caring brother, but why? Will there be real battle between them later where fans are supposed to cry that two beloved siblings are fighting? Because if that is their intention they are completely failing.

#jonsa #Jon x Sansa #got spoilers

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dingoes8myrp · 5 years

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Mom and I React to Game of Thrones 7x02

Recap

Dorne

Me: "Ugh. These bitches."

Varys in Dorne

Mom: "Ugh."

Yuron

Mom: "What's the gift gonna be?!"

me: "Somebody's head."

Mom: "Probably."

Dragonstone

Lightning

Mom: "Can't see anything."

Me: "It's dark."

Daenerys starts questioning Varys

Me: "Welp, he's fucked."

Mom: "Quiet."

Me: "She decided she wanted him dead before she started talking to him."

Melisandre appears

Mom: "Shit."

Daenerys tells Tyrion to summon Jon Snow to bend the knee

Mom: "GOD, she's a bitch. Well, she has to be. Like a man."

Me: "Not really. I've never liked her."

Mom: "What?!"

Me: "Her chapters in the books are my least favorite."

That's right, I said it. I will die on this hill.

King's Landing

Cersei tells people what Daenerys did in Slaver's Bay

Mom: "She's making up stories!"

Me: "Um, that's true! That's all shit she did! WE. WATCHED. IT."

Oldtown

Archmaester tells Jorah he can't be helped and hints he has one more day to kill himself if he wants

Me: "Sam's like 'What the fuck?'"

Dragonstone

Olenna: "You're a dragon. Be a dragon."

Me: "Hmm. That's bad advice."

Messandei starts to storm off from Grey Worm

Mom: "Kiss her!"

Messandei disrobes

Mom: "Does he have a...?"

Me: "We're about to find out."

Mom: "SHE'S about to find out."

Oldtown

Archmaester tells Sam the greyscale cure is forbidden because it's too risky

Me: "Sam's like 'Sounds like just the job for me.'"

Mom: "Yup."

Sam: "You're not dying today, Ser Jorah."

Me: "NOT TODAY!"

Mom: "Oh, he's gonna remove it!!"

Me: "He's very cheerful about this very painful procedure he's about to perform."

Sam: "I'm going to have to remove the entire layer of infected tissue and then..."

Jorah: O.O

Me: "He's like 'fuuuuuck.'"

Sam starts in

Me: *gag*

En Route to King's Landing

Arya chats with Hot Pie

Me: "I feel like she should hang out with Yara."

Hot Pie: "The Boltons are dead."

Me: *flails*

Mom: "Ohhh! She's going to see Jon Snow!"

Me: "And Sansa! She doesn't even know about Sansa!"

Winterfell

Jon relays the two ravens from Sam and Tyrion

Me: "It's like he's doing the 'previousy on' for a soap opera."

Jon announces his plan to go to Dragonstone

Jon:(to Sansa) "Until I return, the North is yours."

Me: "Fuck. He's never coming back."

Baelish talks to Jon in the crypts

Me: *flips off the screen*

Mom: "Yup."

Baelish: "I love Sansa."

Me: "Jon's about to like murder him."

Jon: "Touch my sister and I'll kill you myself."

Me: "'You old perv.'"

Jon waves to Sansa as he leaves

Me: "He's never coming back. He's never going to make it back to Winterfell."

Mom: "Stop it!!"

Jon Snow is her favorite

En Route to Winterfell

Arya crouches by a fire

Mom: "Her wolf. Her wolf's gonna show up."

Mom: "Wolves!"

Me: "Many wolves."

Mom: "Hers is gonna show up!"

Sure enough

Arya: "Nymeria?"

Me: "She's like 'Bitch, you left me.'"

Arya tries to get the wolf to come with her

Me: "Nope. She's got her own pack now."

En Route to Dorne

Yara and Elleria flirt and Theon gets up

Me: "Theon's like 'Oh, Jesus.'"

Ship tilts sideways

Me: "ATTACK!"

Mom: "The uncle."

Yuron swings onto the ship

Me: "What a psycho."

Yara sees all the ships burning

Me: "'BULL. SHIT.'"

Two of the mini Elleria's bite it

Me: "They're all going."

Yuron: "Give your uncle a kiss."

Yara: *smack*

Me: "'Kay.'"

Yuron grabs Yara

Mom: "Theon, do something!"

Theon jumps off the ship

Mom: "What the fuck?!"

Me: "No, he's got something. He's gonna do something else. He couldn't win there. If he went for her the guy would've killed her or the eighteen dudes around him would've ganged up on him. He's just gotta regroup."

After the show

Me: "I'm so glad the Dorne girls are getting picked off. It's like watching that annoying group of snotty girls that make fun of you at lunch try to rule a kingdom."

#Game of Thrones #mamadingo #Mom watches GoT #Dingo watches GoT

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dachi-chan25 · 7 years

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Game of Thornes- Season 7 episode 2 Recap (Pt.2)

Warnings: Spooooooilers; not a D@nee fan my dude, no hate either just critizism; Jonsa shipper so most of the fandom thinks I’m delusional.

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6.- Dat raven from Oldwarts reaches WF (OK but like where is Edd’s raven about Bran???) and Jonny boy is in Brooding mode, he calls for the Lords to tell them the situation, they are not happy at all about being all buddy-buddy with a Targ (and rightfully so) but Jon has a good reasons for going himself (even if I don’t like it):

- He is KitN and unlike other rulers J0n has already proven (remember when he wanted to have a 1 on 1 fight with Ramsey so no one else would die??) he takes responsability over his people and if it’s a trap he’ll rather sacrifize himself than an innocent.

- He is the only one who saw and fought a WW and the only one who can explain how much of a threat they are.

-The raven asked specifically for his presence, and to be allies (they both seek that) there should be some amount of trust, he NEEDS their help after all.

Of course it’s not so simple, because D@nyy has Melissandre with her (you know the same J0n exiled) and she wants him to surrender the North to her (which wasn’t mentioned in the raven and OH!! That if we believe the leaks she is gonna send him on a pointless stupid hunt to prove he says the truth (so no trust on her part I see)

Also, Sansa speaks up to remind him about their grandfather and how he was invited and then killed by a Targ (very fair point) and of course she doesn’t want him to leave!!!

“You’re abandoning your people! you’re abandoning your home!”

Some fellow shippers (I’m not saying your feelings/thoughts aren’t valid guys you are allowed to have your own reading and I am in no way trying to impose my view) mentioned they were wating for her to include ‘you’re abandoning me!’ but she already did in adding home, what makes WF his home is not the fact that he was raised there but that his family is! So in a subtle way she did acuse him of abandoning her.

And can you all blame her??? Sansa already lost so much, and wheter you ship them or not, it’s clear she loves him and doesn’t wanna loose him.

Problem is Jon is the same, y'all remember he wanted to fuck off to Essos after being brought back?? He had nothing left to loose and no fucks to give anymore, Enters Sansa giving him a purpose to live and someone to give a fuck about so of course he is gonna do anything in his power to protect her and the home she fought so hard for!! He is once again gonna fight for her now on the political side and honestly I dig so much this ship!!!

Anyway Jon is not getting much support (even Little Lyanna doesn’t want him to go) but he already made up his mind, Sansa is worried about who the fuck is gonna run the place in his absence and, be still my heart, because he says the North is hers (my shipper heart!!!!) and she is sooooo touched. Also that Jaime/ Brienne parallel.

Creepyfinger is pleased and honestly I can’t wait for Jon to choke the slimy bitch.

7.- Back in the Citadel, Sam says to Slughorn (I can’t remember his actual name, sorry) he knows how to cure greyscale (how very convinient) but hold your horses Potter!!! the thing is dangerous and you really shouldn’t do it. But of course he is gonna do it anyway, because I guess it’s more important to cure his ex-Lord Commander’s son than keeping his place on the Citadel (Slughorn said the procedure was forbbiden so I’m guessing they could expell him for this) to become a Maester for the NW like he was supposed to. Honestly this is all so convinient to have one of D@€nerys stans out and about again *sigh* Also the dialogue was like a porn and I was laughing way to hard even though the scene was disgusting.

8.- Eww that transition was just ewwww I’m glad I wasn’t eating when I watched it, so now we have Arya on her way to KL, and Yay! Hot Pie, I Love him so much, and LMAO Arya and her pies.

So at last Arya hears about the BoB and in that moment she forsakes her revenge to go home (Imma cry again) I think that’s the best damn decision because things are going to be ugly in the south.

9.- Jon in the crypts!!! (It’s happening y'all!!!) I must say that’s a pretty good looking statue of Ned tho. So LF is supposedly trying to get in his good graces but is he really??? I mean his words and tone are polite, he talks about how HE was the one who sent Ned’s bones back to WF (ya you trick ass bitch but you got him killed!!!) and wistully talks about how despite their differences they both loved Cat, and then smoothly reminds Jon about how Cat didn’t care about him and even says she was wrong (I called it!!! That LF was gonna say the last best chance quote from the trailer to Jon) but why was he talking about such a thing, we know Cat (and his bastard status) is a very touchy subject for Jon, as a matter of fact on a deeper level one starts to think maybe he was trying to provoke Jon (Starks. Quick tempers, slow minds is his motto afterall) and even I was surprised by how calm he acted when LF wanted a thank you for saving my life (that FUCKING creep). Until we get the ‘I Love Sansa, like I loved her mother’ it’s such an intresting way of phrasing it, isn’t it?? Because moments before LF states he loved Cat in a romantic way, and when he says he loves Sansa adds the last sentence to leave no room of doubt about what kind of Love is it and what his intentions are. What shaked me was Jon’s expression, he was furious, while moments ago he let LF words slide, a single mention of Sansa and he wants to kill the creeper. Jon’s threat is both terrifying and unexpected ( also I know everyone was freacking out about the sister but Jaime also called Cersei that and they had like 3 children together, same applies to but J0n said D@ny’s name OMG twu wuv, like LMAO Qyburn also said her name and I don’t see anyone shipping them) if LF wanted to provoke a reaction out of him it wasn’t that one definitely. Far to raw and protective to be brotherly.

Jon’s anger doesn’t fade even when he let’s the little creeper go!! He is downright murderous. But then he looks at Sansa and it’s like his whole demeanour changes, I was like what in the Seven hells is this!!!! And the little wave gives me hope they’ll see one another again in this season.

Now what I find real intresting is that last bit with LF. He gets outta those crypts, baffled and massaging his neck, when suddenly he seems to figure something out (you can see it in his eyes) and his first reaction to whatever he was thinking was looking at Sansa (she is looking at the spot Jon just left in such a wistfull and sad manner) and I think he knows something is happening there… Or maybe I’m delusional.

10.- Arya and Nymeria reunite and all is sad, but I think it linda makes sense, Nymeria is not her because Arya herself is not her fully, she had to strip from her identity to become a faceless man, and was using that to take revenge, but now she is stepping back from that destructive path because she has the option to come back home and it’s beginning to be herself again. maybe when she finally does Nymeria will come to her.

11.- I totally lost my shit in here, so Yara and Ellaria are flirting and drinking (so much for this is a war!! ) and far to relaxed and distracted to be part of a group that wants to take the Iron Throne, (Theon is super done with them btw) suddenly all hell breaks loose and Euron’s armada is on da house (he got to get that gift for his Lady) everyone gets crushed, the snakes are murdered and Ellaria/Yara taken prisioners. Also Theon is like LOL no I’m out. But are we supposed to think OMG Euron is totally GOT’s Jack Sparrow!! Cuz I think Ellaria and Yara (also Varys and Theon) were total dumbasses. In being sneaky 101 we learnt that if you wanna smuggle someone somewhere you gotta be disguised (see: LF getting Sansa on the Eyre and Varys taking Tyrion to Essos) Ellaria and Yara had those huge Greyjoy banners like 'here we are!!! The enemy!!!) and they also already knew about Euron’s armada but they choose to believe he was just gonna stay in Pyke pouting.

Like I said totally moronic!!! They could have disguised the ships and the people, traveling in broad daylight and maybe then they could have succeded.

Problem is everyone underestimating Cersei (except Sansa) even when they worked for her (Varys) and lived with her (Tyrion) and that’s what is allowing her to gain footing. As of now D@nys lost her armada and Dorne, her only allies are the Tyrell and with the Unsullied gone her only option is to go dracarys on KL (fuck the writers for this tho, she was actually making a good decision and you force her to hurt people, but maybe it’s intentional)

Also Sam is helping Jorah, but the leaks said the Tarly were going to die by D@nys hands. Looks like someone is gonna regret his decisions.

Anyway, leaving out the Stark bit I wasn’t very happy with this episode because the leaks keep being confirmed and they are still such bullshit (still I’m hoping some or most are fake)

That’s it. And yup I know I didn’t mentioned Greyworm/Missandei sexy time but I am very meh about it, yes it was tender and all but kinda pointless to me even if I like these two a lot.

#GOT season 7 #game of thrones #7x02 recap #dachi rambles #jonsa

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