#his take on Damian isn't that bad but you can easily tell that he's not interested in his character

[arabian-batboy]

“This character’s development is always erased and he’s constantly reset to an annoying brat, I trust that this will not happen under your writing?“

“Oh, unquestionably! We will definitely fuck him up and make him suffer!“

Sir.......you didn’t even answer the question, suffering isn’t development.

[fancyfade]

Re: that post on soft jason

I agree, Jason is in many cases a second Bruce. I think that's very important to understand for some stories: if Bruce is good to kids Jason HAS to be, and sadly, if Bruce is bad I'd argue Jason also has to be even if I want to say that a Jason who has an abusive Bruce would protect kids more. Jason is so frequently written as a mirror of Bruce (in my reading of him at least)

I think that Jason perceives himself as Bruce but doing more than him... but it don't think it's necessarily accurate.

Granted, Bruce has so many interpretations one could easily find an interpretation of Bruce that parallels Jason. If you want the edgy, miller-esque Bruce who's all into punishing criminals and views the city as a warzone, that fits very well with Jason. But the Bruce that Jason sees when he's a child is the Bruce that told him giving people medical attention was more important than going after the bad guys, and was very much not into that edgy "this city is a warzone" viewpoint.

So Winick's Jason easily does mesh with that interpretation, and I can see that as a way that authors may have drawn from it. It wouldn't line up with the Bruce that Jason experienced growing up, but Winick's Robin Jason also didn't line up with 1980s Robin Jason, so it could be a re-interpretation of both of them from that time. I don't really care for Winick's re-interpretation of Robin Jason tho.

Above is a very longwinded way of me saying that under certain writers, one can argue for Jason being a reflection of Bruce, but also that I think that version of Bruce sucks. it may have been winick's authorial intent, though.

however WRT kids: I do think that the if Bruce is good to kids, Jason is, and if Bruce isn't, Jason isn't. The portrayals don't seem super linked to me. Bruce has steadily gotten worse as the years go on, Jason's flip flopped. Like people all tell me that post new 52 Jason would never harm a child, but post new 52 Jason was fine beating Damian way past when would have ended the fight so.... if I take them at their word for it, post new 52 Jason is just inconsistent, I guess, rather than consistently worse. It doesn't really reflect Bruce at all IMO.

I also do want to say that even if one does go with a "Bruce abusive, Jason experiences abuse" interpretation (which I strongly disagree with for Jason's time as Robin), there's no guarantee it would transform him into someone who is protective of kids. He experienced having a poor petty criminal minion-ing for Two Face for a dad (who pre Lobdell retcons, was not abusive) and he became someone who kills criminals who minion for crime bosses. like even in Winick's Jason (or more of mostly with Winick's Jason, b/c that's where the focus here was). He threatens some drug dealers into compliance and following the rules he thinks drug dealers should follow, but when he has his organization set up he just kills the competition, even if they otherwise could be made to follow what he deems the acceptable rules.

Batman 646

Like I feel pre new 52 Jason (don't want to make generalizations of post new 52 having not read as much) is very much a character who like. is very much in pain and determined to put that pain out on the world.

edit: Ommmmmmmmmmmmmg i missed that this was a response to soft jason post oops. as;ldgjal;sdgkj RIP me. But yeah, I do agree that if we get soft Jason we should get soft Bruce. uwu Jason and abusive Bruce just sucks.

[starsapphire]

Saw mysterycirtus/roseworth’s ranking of the Batfamily in skill and I’m curious of your ranking (if you have one)

obligatory i don't love power scaling but ! i do think abt this i won't lie. in terms of pure combat skill then obviously cass is #1. she was a weapon even when she was but a twinkle in her father's eye. she's the closest to superhuman a non-meta can get. i would say bruce and dick are pretty equally matched. bruce has more brute force and stamina on his side but like greta mysterycitrus said, dick has been a trained acrobat since he was a little kid and he very much uses that to his advantage. i think if you removed emotions from the equation bruce would win by a very very very narrow margin but it would be a pyrrhic victory. (damian's too young to tell but he's also been trained pretty much from birth.) babs and tim were both in gymnastics/training of some sort/etc from childhood and are like the most obsessively determined people ever so they are absolutely forces to be reckoned with. steph and duke are not the world's best fighters by any means but they're not exactly white belts. like they probably seem kind of mid as fighters but u have to remember they only seem that way because they're next to batman and his trained-from-infancy children. they will still kick your ass

that said i would not rank them purely on combat skill bc that's not all they have going on! there's a lot you have to consider. pure combat/fighting skill yes, but also ability to strategise, to improvise, empathy, people skills, and of course detective work. generally i think i wouldn't rank them so much as say that they all have different strengths. i hate the whole trend of "x is the ___ one" but like. they do all have different strengths. it would be a boring story if they all had the exact same abilities or were all so perfect at everything that they never needed to work together to balance out their weaknesses yk? maybe dick is the better fighter, but tim has a better chance than dick does at defeating the baddie of the week if he's done his research. i feel like when everything is measured, they're all more or less on the same level, but they all have different strengths

not going to explain bruce because he's bruce. he's the prototype. do i think he's better than everyone at everything? no. but he's good at a lot of things, and more importantly, he's got decades of experience in balancing it all

dick is a jack of all trades on par with bruce — he's just good at a lot of things. and also like bruce, he has decades of experience balancing it all. ultimately he gets a nudge towards the skill/style axis because he doesn't just fight, he puts acrobatics into it. which is crazy! his absolutely batshit combat style is kind of his greatest strength in a fight, even beyond strategy and knowing how to throw a punch in the first place

cass is a very, very good fighter with a vast skillset, but it's emphasised throughout her time on-panel that she's still learning how to be a detective. that's why the tim and cass teamup is so great (and effective!) -- tim's not a bad fighter, but detective-ing comes more easily to him; cass isn't necessarily a bad detective, but when it comes down to it she's leagues better at combat. they balance one another out.

tim: see above. he's a good fighter and absolutely insane with a bo staff, but remember that he did so well in that fight against king snake because he used the staff as a tool to distract and disorient him before he ever landed a hit with it

jason is kind of an enigma to me because he's sort of whatever the writer needs him to be in the moment. like bruce and dick, he's kind of a jack of all trades, but ultimately his greatest strength is just... taking people out. he's a great strategist and a great planner and a great detective, but that's outweighed by his ability to be brute force up close and have good aim from a distance.

i personally feel like i haven't read enough steph, duke, or damian (yet) to rank them on this bit but like... you get it. may revisit when i finish new earth and/or get to my duke reading. we will see

now you may say, cam, this was a one-sentence ask. cam, how did you manage to get several paragraphs out of that. to which i say, buddy, i am so fucking unemployed

[spookyprime]

3 (also feel free to just rank the robins)

3. Who’s your third-favorite Robin? Tell us one thing you like or dislike about them.

Lmaoooo okay. Well! A preface is in order because I know people like to take things too seriously and when I say Damian is my least favorite I know someone somewhere is going to get upset so- I do not DISLIKE any of these characters. I find all of them enjoyable in some ways. There's just characters I like more than others. I don't hate your blorbo.

1) Tim is my favorite. He's confident and very sure of himself but has a more mild disposition and opts to play a mediator role when he isn't busy making the most bonkers too much plan you've ever seen. His comics are the most entertaining to me because he usually gets paired with someone who's doing something ridiculous and his personality tends to let people go "Yes and" right up to the point of being too much. Also he likes sports and I get to draw him in hockey jerseys. He's good support for other characters to bounce off of and I like him for that. What I dislike is that because of his more mild disposition he can very easily be written out of narratives or forgotten about.

2) dick for nearly the exact opposite reason. If dick is in a comic he is almost always the star of the show. The story revolves around him. It's dick and friends. He should get to be meaner. I haven't read much of the current nightwing run but my wife keeps up with it and dick is her favorite. She loves him. I have to rank him high for her. What I dislike about dick is that I NEED him to leave those women alone. Stop dating. Stop it.

2.5 not a robin but Cass goes here I think she's great

3) Jason. I like some of Jason's stuff and I dislike a lot of Jason's stuff. He's weird but also somehow I think he's the most normal one of them. I get frustrated because he has a lot of potential in character arcs but he's written so deeply inconsistently that it's difficult to nail down who Jason todd is and what he wants. (Gotham knights video game Jason is everything to me.)

4) steph. As spoiler and Batgirl she's great I love her but also wow holy shit she got some of the worst writing of any of these people. She constantly gets thrown under the bus and shafted. She's not very enjoyable to read because of that and also some deep inconsistencies in writing quality just simply depending on if the writer respects women or not. And that's not her fault but it does impact reading experience.

5) Damian. I simply don't find tsundere characters enjoyable. I don't like this personality type. Again- i don't hate him. I'm glad he's here he's a fun character. But I don't ever find myself actively looking for Damian centric comics. He's a good sidekick character when he gets to play that role. I hate the way some writers will write Talia because of him. I think it puts Talia in a very bad light and i dislike that she spent so long in the comics trying to distance herself from her upbringing only to turn around and basically just through bad writing do the same thing to Damian. I think it's poorly thought out and written by people who don't like her and don't respect her. (And again! I don't hate him! I've drawn more fanart of him than I have of dick and Jason combined!)

[griffle-musings]

FTMWU: Dragon Babbies

Currently, a Tumblr only story in the Fly Through Universe, set a bit further along in the storyline.

They all had their deal with magic users.

Granted, few and far between- while Gotham attracts the bizarre and dangerous, most magic users, even malevolent, cited a lack of desire to call Gotham 'home.' The Paranormal and Supernatural, common tangents, of course- ghosts, both figurative and literal, hung around each corner, Batman himself used to be considered more myth than man, but magic, true, honest magic, often chose a different place than the city of Gotham. One might say that perhaps due to Jason Blood's own residency made most others wary, but one could say that it was probably also the traffic, pollution, hostility towards strangers via the locals, and general possessive hostility of Gotham that took the shape of a man dressed as a Bat that seemingly made most Magic took a look at Gotham, and run the other way.

But still some foolhardy people would come and try and take over Gotham. Or would assume that it would be alright to smuggle magical items via the Docks. Or laughed when others would mention Batman, citing impossibilities, ironically.

Overall, most Bats (and Birds) would agree that while they handled a bit of magic users, they weren't as readily handled as one would say, John Constantine.

So one could excuse when two got caught in the magical spell.

---

It was meant to be a slow night.

Bruce rolls his back, feeling his frustration grow. Beside him, Cass nudges his shoulder in solidarity, and he's positive that if he turned, he'll see the familiar cocked head of her own version of a masked grimace, a concession and frustration of the lack of action. On one hand, it's a relief, to not be in the midst of an outbreak or deterring a Rogue plot. On the other- both him and Cass had been on stakeout for the past two and half hours, and while, yes, he had been on stakeouts for far longer, the Intel said there was supposed to be an exchange happening tonight, which means that they were either played or been caught out.

Eventually, even he has to call it a wash, shifting his body in a way that Cass can easily tell- pack up, time to head home.

Just as they're stretching out their limbs, the coms crackle to life.

"Batman, Black Bat, report," Oracle's digitized voice comes in their ears. "Confirmation needed."

"Batman here, no injuries to confirm," he glances over to Cass, who merely clicks her comm three times. A-ok. "We're about to head back."

"Good," Oracle is blunt, in a way that's concerning him. Barbara isn't like this unless. "Red Robin and Robin got hit with a magic spell and are down for the night."

He feels his heart clench. "How bad?" He remembers how much Tim was looking to this night, of patrolling with Jenna. "She's growing up," he had admitted wistfully, watching an earlier training session with her and Damian, eyes a bit misty as she slammed a knee to Damian's solar plexus, attempting to maneuver herself into an upright triangle choke. "She's getting older, and- I guess I kind of miss…well." He shrugged, grin still a bit lopsided as Damian deftly grabbed her leg, throwing her across the training area. She landed on her feet with grace, rushing forward to attack Damian once again. "She's a busy young lady. I'm just glad we can patrol when we can."

He'd made a mental note to try and partner them up more- except now it seems that perhaps it wasn't the best plan, because they were both incapacitated.

It has to be bad, he deduces. If Oracle is radioing them to come home early, if it was bad enough to call the entire family- he knows Barbara, she probably called all of them back, especially if there's a rogue magician on the loose- they aren't prepared, not fully, and Blood or Zatanna will have to be called, or possibly Constantine...

"Just…" and there was a strangled cough. "You definitely want to get over here."

Both of them look at each other, and leap off the edge.

---

It was the fastest time they've arrived.

Tires squealing, Cass leaps effortlessly out of the still moving vehicle, bounding up to the small huddle on the main platform.

He moves as quickly as he can, moving faster as he sees Cass get to the platform and-stills.

Not for the first time, he sends a wordless prayer that it something- manageable. That his family was still whole and not-

He nearly barrels into Dick, who's half out of his costume, and there's a glint in his eye that makes him pause. He sees how Dick is valiantly attempting to keep his face neutral, although it's hard to see how much he's charmed by- something. He feels something in his chest loosen.

"What's wrong?" He asks, because while it's obviously not a serious emergency, it was an emergency. There's a reason Oracle called off patrol early.

"Just-" Dick bites his lip, and waves over to where there's an opening and- oh.

In the middle of the circle is what could only be a dragon, vibrating the floor with what Bruce can only classify as "purrs." They're a mixture of black scales with black fur running down it's spine, leading from a tuft on their curled tail to a mane curling around their head. Two onyx horns rise from the mane, curving yet pointed. Surprisingly, they don't have wings, and honestly look more mammalian than reptilian, with a rather rounded muzzle, and stout legs. They had a tuft of fur on their tail.

The dragon wasn't looking at any of the group, seemingly more invested in grooming the most disgruntled baby dragon Bruce's ever seen. Unlike the bigger dragon, who was probably the size of a leopard, the baby was probably the size of what Bruce assumes to be what a leopard cub was, and a bit round in the stomach, different from the older dragon's sleeker form. They were upturned onto their back, showing a tan underbelly as a long red-pink tongue carefully and continually groomed them, steam rising from where the tongue licked. Their coloring was a more muddy looking brown-black than the midnight black of the older dragon, and he didn't need to see the two green eyes glaring balefully from the baby dragon's face to put two and two together.

"Has Zatanna been called?" He sighs, as Tim deftly flips Jenna back over, running his tongue over the hair across her spine, an interesting ombre effect of black to her natural brown. Jenna lets out a yowl, very much displeased, and tries her best to escape the onslaught of grooming, but alas, all Tim has to do is place a gentle paw over her spine and continue to give her a tongue bath. He can practically hear the hearts in everyone's eyes at the display. Stephanie and Duke already had their phones out, taking as many shots as they could.

"She's a munchkin," he hears Jason murmur, sounds as enamoured as he did around fast cars and puppies. "She's a tiny, itty-bitty munchkin. She has baby fat. Goddamn this is so fucking cute."

"Precious Baby," Cass agrees, kneeling down. The older dragon gives her a quick glance, then right back to his grooming session. Cass smiles. "You look good."

The dragon flashes their teeth, as if giving Cass a toothy grin.

"This isn't permanent?" Bruce glances to Dick, because while, yes, it was very cute, he didn't want Tim and Jenna to stay like this forever.

"Yeah, Zatanna said it wasn't permanent, she'll call back later for a longer explanation though" Dick replies, more absent-minded as usual as he continues to gaze at the two dragons. "But it will take some time." He turns with a grin. "Something tells me Jenna is probably more pissed about this than Tim."

As he watches Tim continue to give happy clicking chirps and purrs over her growls and yowls, Bruce had to concede that Dick had a point.

[batstorm93672]

Champion

This is part 3

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Damn, blood is coming out of my mouth and nose, this boy might just be older than me too. I don't want to fight like this, it isn't right.

He kept Damian in a chokehold, Damian could barely breath as it stood. It isn't right for children to be fighting like this.

I can't die... not like this, not now.

Only one choice...

Win...

Win...

Win...

I must win...

My purpose is to win

Damian wrapped his legs around the kid and headbutt him, taking the chance given to flip him on his back. Damian grabbed the kid's head and snarled. "I won't lose"

Win

Win

Win

Live

End it

You must live

Live!

Win!

Crack

Damian moved a bit back, moving his hands away from the child. It was silent, then an uproar of cheers exploded some booed most likely the ones who lost their money. Damian stood up and looked at the audience with a glare. It only seemed to fuel the fire as they cheered even harder.

I won

I won't lose

I'll live

Damian looked down at the dead child, his neck snapped. Yet Damian didn't look upset or frightened. As a matter of fact, he had no expression to show, it's just like back then.

I won... I killed to win

I refuse to die, someone will come soon. Father, Richard, Timothy, Jason, someone will save every child from this Hell. Until then... I have to win.

And so he did.

He won.

He bled.

He suffered.

He cried.

He screamed.

He won.

He lived.

A week in and he won, of course he had close calls and sometimes it came to a draw. The man in charge was fine with that too, he knows how to run a business as ugly as this, the man claimed Damian as his Champion. He knows just as much as Damian that if he kept winning easily then they'll be bored. It's how these bastards work, they come for a show. During a few matches he did want to give in and let someone beat him to death. Then the surge of life and death kicked in and he fought with teeth bared. He killed in so many ways.

Cracked a few jaws.

Broke a few bones.

Ripped some skin.

Tasted blood.

He had to win.

~

"Why didn't you find me sooner? Did you not care..?" Damian glared at Bruce, so much anger fueling through him. The Lazarus Pit was a big factor in his rage in the ring as well. It's why he sometimes felt nothing after killing someone, because the influence took over and his morals meant nothing.

"We looked everywhere Damian, I never would've stopped-"

"Yet this elluded the great detective, I'm calling bullshit here. World's greatest yet you couldn't even find your own son! Admit it! Say you didn't care and I'll stomp out of this cave and you won't see me ever again!"

"No! It's not true Damian. I love you so much, I haven't stopped looking and I refused to lose you again"

"...I want to be alone... I- I won't leave, I just want to lie down"

Damian left the cave, heading up to see Alfred with a tray of brownies. "Master Damian, I heard what happened. Is everything alright?"

"I... I did bad things again, I just... I need time"

Damian got to his room and moved to his desk, grabbing a piece of paper and a pencil. His mind wandered, the pictures were a clear visual of not even half of what he's seen. The first one... it was the child's snapped neck. His name... was hard to remember. They were given titles and numbers at first, Damian's number at first was #643 then his title was Champion better known to the bidders as Storm Devil.

.

Something touched him and Damian woke up by slamming them to the floor and pressing his foot against their neck over the windpipe. Any harder and they'll die from lack of air or snapping bones. "D-Damian! It's Dick, please let go" Damian looked down at him as if he was nothing. Then snapped out of it, light coming back into his eyes as he stepped back. "Why the hell are you here? Wasn't I clear enough yesterday?" "I know, I just had to make sure you were okay. I worry" "Stop worrying, I'm fine" "I came to tell you that breakfast is ready"

"I'll be there. You can go now Richard"

Alfred had already set a plate for Damian, everyone was seated minus for the family members who weren't here today: Cass, Jason and Duke. So now it's Steph, Dick and Tim then the usual residents of course. They were glancing at him every now and then, considering he's been watched for a month now he knows when someone is watching. "If any of you want to speak then I suggest you do so now. I rather not be stared at like an item you found and have no clue how to use"

Stephanie broke the silence with a smile "What do you plan to do after breakfast?"

"Go to my room"

"Well would you wanna watch a movie?"

"What movie?"

"Beauty and the Beast? We can critic it again, heck we can watch the live version and do the same"

"No, I'd rather go to my room"

"Oh okay, well holler at me if you change your mind"

Well Champion, are you willing to live another day?

Tt. Who's next

Make sure to give them a good match to go home to

"Hey? You doing okay there?" "I'm fine, let me just--"

Someone else was fighting him, preparing to strike. He won't lose! Damian gripped the person's arms and slammed them to the floor, wrapping his hands around their neck and the Lazarus Pit was basically screaming at him to keep going.

It's not right... I...

Damian loosened his grip "No... no I can't" Damian was moved to the side. It was Stephanie, she was coughing and yet she looked worried. Bruce was the one who moved Damian away, everyone was checking on Stephanie.

Yet she stilled smiled her best and looked at Damian "Don't worry about it D. I didn't mean to scare you by moving behind. I should've said something"

Why is he like this? He can't even be around his family properly now. A whole month... fighting, struggling and bleeding. He finally made it to a place of comfort and yet he was screwing that up too. Damian left the room, heading to his room without a second glance back. Slamming his door shut and locking it as he curled up on his bed and hid.

.

Get the kid on the chair, think his lungs might be full of water, gotta clean it out

How many sparks today?

Six for now

.

So how's he looking?

Ready for the ring

Good. This show is gonna be good

.

I'll kill you!

...no. You most definitely won't

There you have it folks! Storm Devil has won thirty fights in a row in just a week! Hence he will be known as our first ever, Champion!

You live another day Champion. Making me proud. Heh, you keep glaring at me like that you sure got guts. Just make sure those guts don't spill on the ring and you won't lose

.

"Damian"

Damian opened his eyes and sat up, he didn't sleep just lost in thought. "Who is it?" "Dick" "Come in" "It's locked" "Oh, right"

Unlocking it, Dick smiled a bit "Hey there. How is everything going?" "Is... is she okay?" "Come on, you know Steph she's a fighter, she wouldn't go down without a fight" "Yeah... she wouldn't, are you here on Father's request?" "Yes and no. I showed up because he asked me to see what you were doing. I decided to see how you are doing. So, how are you?"

"I'm... out of it I suppose. I feel like I'm still fighting..." Damian sat on his bed and Dick sat next to him. Damian entangled his fingers through his hair "I'm still fighting... still killing, I snapped his neck and I don't even know who he was yet I remember the look on his face, he was terrified and angry. He was going to kill me. Instead I killed him... and many others who I don't even know either. Boys, girls, men, women who I never knew yet I slaughtered them without a thought. A part of me didn't even care"

"We--" Dick shook his head slightly and looked at Damian with a fierce look "I should have found you. I should have looked more, you were alone for so long... it's not fair to go through so much. I should've found you"

"Don't blame yourself... you all looked, I'm furious still for reasons I can't explain. Maybe the Pit, the flashbacks, the fear or guilt turning into anger... I don't know how to get over it, there's still so much of my childhood fighting in me and I thought I could move past some of it yet I'm right back where I started" Damian threw himself into Dick's arms and held him tightly. Dick shook of the quick surprise he felt and hugged Damian. "Please stay... I don't want to be alone, his voice is in my head and it won't go away. He called me "his" I was just a toy to them and I don't want to be a part of it anymore"

"I'm here, I got you. No one can hurt or use you ever again"

[og-danny-dorito]

[ 𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐛𝐫𝐨𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐠𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐭𝐲 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐬 ]

𝐓𝐖: none

dick:

HES ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE "omg im SOO bad for that" but it's something tame like sleeping in an hour later than normal??

he's not super strict with his sleep schedule or anything but as he's grown older he's more used to routine of being a detective

so sleeping in isn't something he can do all that often :[

that and he sleeps really light and lives in the city so any time he can get somewhere peaceful to rest where there arent a bunch of outside noises he sleeps in

jason:

jason is the polar opposite of dick.

he's like "oh i mean its not that bad or anything" even though he's telling you about how he eats entire tubs of ice cream after missions instead of actually feeding himself

usually by the time a mission is over his blood sugar is really low and he doesnt have enough energy to order food

and its not like he has premade stuff at every safehouse he goes to cause the fridges are really just for over bake pizzas and beer if he wants some and bodies

he just really likes ice cream though so its not really a surprise

sometime's he'll watch musicals WHILE eating the tub of ice cream

he calls it self care (it is most definitely not)

duke:

quentin tarintino films.

he likes to pretend that hes like a normal film fan who doesnt watch shit a thousand times but he does

he watches them multiple times and cant get sick of them

theyre almost kind of like comfort films?? like he views them escapism even though most of the shit in them is stuff he sees everyday

idk but he likes them a lot. that and it gives him something to talk to jason about becuase theyre both film nerds

damian:

he likes to pretend that he doesn't enjoy things like everyone else on the planet but he tears up snacks in the middle of the night

its not even like normal amounts of snacks either

everyone knows bruce's loaded so he can provide enough to satiate all of his kids' late night snacking needs but damian tears through stuff like goldish, cheeze-its, and anything cracker-y that you can fit in your mouth easily

its so bad that every time alfred restocks the pantry he has to end up storing things away and gradually refiling them over the week because damian eats them so fast

tim had been witness to many of his late night feasts but he's bound to a mutual vow of silence cause of his bad habits

tim:

he has a problem with staying up really late and ordering takeout multiple times out of the week

he's literally the heir to wayne enterprises so its not like he cant afford it, but it means that he ends up not really taking care of himself

tim survives off of takeout, ramen, and coffee and no one knows how he's still alive

him and damian have a mutual agreement not to snitch on each other since they usually find themselves both in the kitchen at 3 AM making coffee and scouring the pantry for cheese crackers (respectively)

[ 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐤𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 :] ]

[roguesdepravity]

hi! could i please rq some riddler x reader hcs, where the reader is the member of the batfamily and they find out? also gender neutral or fem reader is fine <3 thank you so much!

I'll do my best to characterize everyone. I am going to focus on how the fam feels about reader with him and then how he feels about them knowing.

-Barbara could tell just from how you spoke about Edward that you felt something for him that you just didn't have for the other rouges. It scared her. Then, seeing you hold back with him and almost let him escape was her final straw. The next day she brings it up to everyone so they can talk about it

-No one was blind to it, but its certainly still a revelation. They end up holding a pseudo-intervention to discuss things with you.

-Bruce and Barbara are more understanding than the others, but Bruce won't mince words. "While its nice to know you've found someone, you do know that as soon as you are no longer convenient he will leave you."

-Dick wouldn't want you to be with any of the rouges in the first place, and even though the Riddler is hardly the most violent of them, there is always the chance that you could get seriously hurt.

"If it came down to it would you choose a criminal over your own family? I thought you were taught better than that."

-While the others might not make you answer that, Dick will still remember the look on your face as you take in his words.

-Tim mostly just points out the logistical issues of keeping up the relationship.

-Though he wouldn't be there at the family meeting where it was brought up, Jason would probably put Edward second on his shit list. If you notice your man a bit more roughed up than usual and Jason caught him, you now know why.

-Damian would hold his tongue for a while till he pointed out that Batman has actively pursed rogues before. He hardly cares about it either way due to his age, but maybe it won't be all bad.

-You are an adult after all so it's not like they can do much other than speak their feelings. At the very least, Barbara wishes you the best in trying to make it work. She tells you that she hopes that you become enough of a good influence on him to get him to quit crime for good.

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-Once you tell him that Batman knows about you two, Edward feels a bit of happiness and pride knowing that he basically stole one of the vigilantes sidekicks out from under him. On the other hand, he is disappointed that now he isn't going to be able to sneak around as easily to see you.

-Of course he doesn't appreciate the extra brutality directed towards him from everyone, but he won't leave you because of it. Batfam be damned, he loves you.

-Each one of them have a version of the classic "break her heart and I'll break you" speech, and he finds it quite amusing. Clearly, these people care about you as much as he does even if he still uses every opportunity he gets to rub it in their faces that you confessed to him.

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BatPets Headcanons

In honor of the Most Glorious and Beloved Bitewing (and Ace and Titus and Alfred the Cat and Goliath and Batcow.....) I wanted to share my thoughts on what pets the batfam has and should have.

Dick

Ahhhhhhh Bitewing! Our new beloved! We've only just gotten you but if you get whooshed away by bad writers I already know I will RIOT.

It actually makes perfect sense for Dick to take in a stray pup. His bro-son has the attitude and personality of a cat, so he already had that covered. And I can't see him paying high prices for a designer breed (bless him) so it's stray/shelter or nothing.

That being said, he also needs a young dog. Some people are made with the disposition to take in the older dogs with older dog needs, but Dick loves deeply and I can't see that he'd deal well with the shorter timeframe of taking in older dogs. So. Younger dogs, that he can go running with in the morning and play with in the park and nap with on the couch.

Jason

My man has taste, and also had a doggo as a kid. He's got a soft spot for all of Gotham's forgotten strays. I see him as being a pitbull kind of guy, but like. Also mastiffs. Anything big and menacing looking, but they always turn out to be utter marshmallows.

Totally the type to name his big scary dog Tinkerbell or Baby or something mushy like that. Likewise, Kori and Artemis (and probably Roy) all collect cutesy costumes and collars and leashes. Has the most cutsey giant dog.

The kind of dog that he can trust to take care of kids. If he's particularly concerned about a kid out on the street he can drop the dog off to stand guard until the kid's parent shows up. The dog is real gentle with the lil human, but scares off potential kidnappers.

Cass

The first of our exotics keepers! I feel like Cass would really appreciate betta fish. The way the swim and flit through the water, fins seeming to dance as they moved.... like tulle, like dancing.

She probably has several tanks. The first one she got was from Petsmart or PetCo or whatever. It irked her because she knows they don't tend to treat the fish well, but the local petshop's fish were all extremely sickly looking. After that she's hooked, for lack of a better word, and Bruce ends up learning way more than he ever needed to learn about importing fish (and paying for imported fish).

She's meticulous about their care. They've all got nice big clean tanks, and a companion to help keep them clean (different ones according to temperaments, snails for the easier going ones and shrimp for the more aggressive boys). They've got live plants and decorations to hide under, each tank a different theme to show off the fish. Has lowkey been considering getting a female for one of her favorite easy going boys (the first one, who has become a very soothing companion) because he's getting older and she'd like to be able to carry a part of him on.

Tim

His companion is an emotional support animal, with papers from his doctor and everything. Seems like he should be a dog person, but instead has a very big Turkish Angora. Her name is Mrs. Tuffles and he got her from a breed-specific rescue.

She's good for him because she disrupts his work and also helps provide a soothing presence when he has a panic attack. At night if he isn't in bed at a certain time she lays on top of whatever he's working on. If he's panicking she lays on his lap or chest and purrs (the added weight, the feeling and sounds of the purrs, held disrupt tension). She's a cuddly cat, and it tricks him into sleeping in in the mornings.

When he finds out that cats purr on a wavelength that encourages healing, and that there's evidence that they sit on humans and purr in attempts to heal/help them, he bursts into tears and startles the cat, who had been draped over his shoulders.

Steph

Got a bunny because she thought it would be an easy pet. She was very very wrong. It was from one of the neighbors in her building, because the mom of the kid who brought it home didn't want it anymore. It's a cute little lop, grey and brown.

She quickly discovers that bunnies are super dirty, and they absolutely stink. It bites her for the first week (and Tim and Jason and everyone else that isn't Damian, who somehow tricks it into loving him) and she seriously considers taking it to the shelter. But she doesn't. By week three, he's snuggling up on her feet and in her lap, and she decides that maybe he isn't so bad after all.

He didn't have a name when she got him, so she call him Mi-Mi. She doesn't tell Damian, but it's totally named after him because he reminds her of the way Damian had been when she'd first met him and the progression of their friendship over time.

Duke

Seems like a bird type of dude. Probably has a Cockatiel or two. They're very sassy birbs, and there's no way he doesn't enjoy that. One of them repeats words, and has picked up swears from Jason. It swears at Bruce every time he comes in Duke's room. Everyone except Bruce finds it funny.

The other one "dances" whenever it hears music coming from Cass's room. They're both very active and curious, he's contantly having to buy toys for them to rip apart. One of them nipped Damian's ear once, and Duke has never seen Damian look more offended in his life. It was probably the first pet that Damian hadn't been able to Disney-Princess.

They've probably got a dumb name pair. Tom and Jerry, Chip and Dale, etc. Personally I think he'd get a kick out of naming them Batman and Robin, just to fuck with Bruce. He probably then teaches the one who talks (Batman) to say dumb things like "I am the night! I work alone!" etc etc.

Damian

Has all the animal companions. Not pets. That makes them beneath him, which probably opposes his fundamental beliefs. This is my reminder to yall that Ra's started out as an eco-terrorist. Putting aside what he is or is not now, I like to believe that Damian was raised with a deep respect for nature and animals, he probably sees humans as just one particularly terrible animal species.

He has a wide array of companions as is. I'm good with them all, although I wish they'd bring back his dragon friend. :( I love the dragon friend.

I think he'd be the type to have axolotls too. They've got an interesting mythological basis and fit into the dragon theme. Plus the short story "The Axolotl" by Cortazar is a fascinating piece of mystical realism and I could see that he'd be intrigued by the species. They're endangered in the wild because of habitat destruction and invasion of foreign species that prey on them, but are easily bred in captivity. So I could see he'd keep at least one breeding pair, with the intent to someday bully Bruce into funding a project to save their natural habitat.

Barbara

Doesn't have her own pets, because she doesn't want the responsibility on top of everything else she does.

But her apartment always has furry/feathered friends in it because she's constantly petsitting for the others when they have to go do hero stuff. She's basically like a step-mom for everyone else's pets. She's learned how to take care of tanks and whatnot as well, mostly for Cass. The axolotls are gross and she refuses to touch those tanks, but the bettas are kinda like cute grumpy old men. She likes to tease Bruce by telling him his grand-fish take after him.

Always has a variety of pet snacks with her. She is determined to be the overall favorite human to all the bat-pets. Competition is fierce between her and Dami, but she has an edge because Robin the Cockatiel seems to prefer her.

[i-am-ironic]

Daminette arranged mariage au part 6

I thought the last one was part 6 but nope its this one

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Marinette and Damian had had a great day at the park with Xander and Titus. Xander was so excited to see the "puppy" that he practically jumped from Marinette's arms.

They stayed at the park until it started getting dark after that damian went home to drop off titus and then they all went to McDonald's because it was Xander's favorite American food. When they were done eating marinette suggested damian come back to the apartment to watch "Onward" with them because that was Xander's favorite movie (it was shaping up to be a great day for this kid).

Halfway through the movie the toddler fell asleep so damian put him to bed and came back to sit with marinette. He had to admit this had been a wonderful day, but they had a lot to talk about.

Damian sighed, "we are never going to have a normal relationship, you know that right?"

"I went into this relationship knowing how it started" she replied turning to face him, "and I'm ok with it."

"Even though it wasn't your choice to marry me?"

"Dames the reason i came here to find you wasn't just to introduce you to Xander it was also because I love you." Those words ment more to him then she could even know. She still loved him even after all this time. He kissed her cheek smiling, she blushed as she continued "We didn't meet in the best circumstances but that wasn't your fault, and we were still able to have a relationship, and a son."

"Its just...you had to raise Xander on your own and I know you had Luka but I should have been there with you." He thought of all the things he missed, "I should have Held your hand at the hospital, helped you with the nursery, been there when he learned how to walk. I should have kept looking for you. But I didn't."

"You thought I was dead I understand how painful that can be. You were shipped back here with your father. You didn't have a choice how we met or when you left." She took a breath, "I know you would have been there if you could have."

"I just wanted to make sure you didn't have any doubts about our relationship," he tried to find the right way to farase it so it didn't sound too blunt, "because my father thinks you should meet my brothers." $#*! That was too blunt.

"Are you sure you want to tell them?" She said not seeming to mind his bluntness.

"If I don't tell them they will get suspicious and will probably figure it out on their own, mother made sure we couldn't get out of this easily so we are legally married. Its a wonder they don't already know, besides once they know then maybe you can come on patrol with us, I'm sure you missed it."

"Oh and we can spar again that will be so fun." She said clapping her hands together. "So when am I going to meet your brothers?"

"I was thinking you could come over for dinner tomorrow and if things go well then we can have Luka bring Xander over." He wasn't quite sure how Luka had so much free time but he wasn't going to look a gift horse in the mouth. that was how that saying went, right?

"Are you sure you want to tell them you have a girlfriend/wife AND that you have a son I the same day?"

"My dad took it pretty well."

"Your dad doesn't show any emotions unless the media are around." She wasn't wrong.

"It'll be fine they might be surprised but at least it's not a bad surprise."

She snorted in amusement, "if you say so."

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Damian woke up to the screaming of a toddler. As he opened his eyes in the bright light coming from the window he noticed that he was still at marinette's apartment, and that marinette was still asleep on the couch by his side. She scrunched up her face at the yelling and started to sit up until damian whispered, "mari you have been talking care of him for years let me take this one, go back to sleep." She groaned and rolled over as he got off the couch and walked to the little boy's room.

"Hey Xander what's wrong?" He said in his most Soothing tone.

Xander reached over the bed rail trying to reach something "I...t...truck.....*sniffle* c...can't reach.....and food....and mommy...."

"Hey its okay buddy here i got your truck," he said handing the little boy a green truck with a Robin symbol on the side. "mommy is right out there why don't we go see her ok?"

Xander nodded wiping his eyes and reaching up toward Damian. Damian lifted up the boy and put him on his hip like he had done it a thousand times. When they reached the kitchen marinette was already up making breakfast.

"I told you I could handle him." He said shaking his head.

"I know but I wanted to make you breakfast and pancakes are Xander's favorite." She said turning to the toddler in his father's arms, "Isn't that right baby?"

Xander nodded happily asking "syrup too mommy?"

"Yes, we can have syrup too, now let your dad put you in you chair and the pancakes should be done soon."

Marinette could hear damian struggling, After a moment he said, "Marinette can you help me? I can't figure out how to strap him in the chair." She smiled and walked over to help.

She wanted every morning to be like this. Waking up next to damian, him helping with breakfast and trying to figure out Xander's toys.

When all the pancakes were done marinette went to Luke's room to tell him it was time for breakfast and Damian cut up Xander's pancakes. Damian and marinette explained their plan to luka who agreed to watch Xander while they were at dinner. When they were all done eating damian said goodbye and that he would pick marinette up at 6 for dinner.

When he returned home around 10 Jason was confused not only because he hadn't seen damian since breakfast yesterday but also because he smelled like vanilla perfume. Which meant damian had been out with a girl. And had spent the night with this girl.

"So demon spawn were gave you been?"

"None of your business todd." He said in a tone not quite as angry as it usually would be.

"Really? Because I think you just don't want me to knowing you spent the night with a girl."

Damian's face turned red but he didn't deny it, "you will meet her at dinner with the rest of the family." He said leaving to make the arrangements with Alfred and his father.

Jason was perplexed, who had damian been out with and more importantly why was he just hearing about this now? Maybe he could do some snooping before dinner.

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So i saw this post about how when you are writing you should write all the dialog first and then fill in the rest and you will get longer chapters and I think it works! If anyone wants to be tagged please ask me and ill put you on the list, and I still need help with how far apart all the boys are i think someone told me but I was dumb and didn't write it down, oops. anyway I hope you like this chapter! If you have any questions feel free to ask me and happy 4th of July to any Americans, happy traders day to the British and happy Saturday to everyone else.

@thestressmademedoit

@abrx2002 I love that you suggested Onward for the movie because its about a boy trying to meet his dad for the first time and thats kinda whats happening in the story

@depressedrainbowcake

@myazael