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[jasntodds]

1/3 I get where you’re coming from partly and you don’t sound rude at all. But things like suicide, rape, eating disorder, etc ARE NOT things that are common in horror movies. Viewers deserve to get the notice. (Agreeing with the anon you answered). blood/gore/violence are expected and assumed but not is depression and sexual assault. People deserve to be notified. ESPECIALLY if it could trigger them. “research” doesn’t do justice. I personally like to do research before I watch most things+

2/3 because that’s just me. But at the same time, not everyone is like that. For something I’m not triggered by like rape, doesn’t mean it’s not triggering/hurtful for someone else. And if you’re not triggered by suicide or depression, that’s good for you but it’s a VERY SENSITIVE and important topic for many. birdbox is based off of a book. But not everyone is assumed to have done research/read whatever that film/show came from. And they shouldn’t have to. The obvious such as violence and gore+ 3/3 gore in horror movies is expected and assumed. But people shouldn’t have to assume that something that hurts them, is in something they’re interested in seeing. Viewers deserve a notice. Like that anon said, it’s like a writer warning of death, smut and more, because the reader can avoid what could potentially trigger them, while still enjoying the rest of the story. Television watchers and movie goers deserve to know so too. Not everyone does their research and honestly movie directors+ 4/3 (I didn’t think it would be this long oop I estimated) producers and actors, have their own responsibility to get people to see whatever their project is. - BUT it doesn’t hurt to put in a potential trigger warning. If creators/performers want people to view their job, they should put out a notice/warning. Watchers deserve that. The obvious in horror movies again aren’t the same. Rape, molestation, suicide, self harm, aren’t things expected in horror movies. That’s not a part of the “genre”+ 5/3 a genre is simply stated as, “comedy”, “horror”, “drama”, “sci-fi”, “dramedy”, “action”, etc. comedy: pretty self explanatory. horror: the usual/assumed is gore and violence. But again w/ things like sexual assault, sexual harassment, depression, suicidal thoughts or actions, & eating disorders AREN’T a part of the “genre”, they don’t fall under any movie genre. There should be a notice. (This is the last part, again sorry for it being longer than I thought & again sorry if it sounds rude!)

No, no you’re fine!! I don’t think you’re being rude! We’re just having a discussion of different POVs!

Okay, I’m gonna explain why I don’t mention rape because that’s not a given. Rape scenes, in any genre, in any context, are POINTLESs. There is NO reason for them. Like, The Last House On The Left, for example, is it a good movie? HELL YEAH. But, as a rape victim, that rape scene did not sit well. It was too real and too graphic. If they wanted it, which it was fairly important to her parents finding out and such, they could have her underwear being partially torn off and then faded to black and then came back with her crying. Like that’s it. That’s how you show a rape happened. So, when I say that things in the horror/suspense/thriller genres don’t need trigger warnings, rape isn’t a part of that because there is absolutely no reason for a rape scene. None.

But when you get into suicide and eating disorders, 9/10 those things ARE mentioned in a review or even the description (Bird Box). Regardless, though, those themes are normal in horror/thriller/suspense films. I mean, the Nun has a suicide but it’s crucial to the plot. The Haunting Of Hill House, crucial to the plot but if you go out and you say “suicide” that’s a big spoiler.

That’s the entire point of these genres though. You SHOULD expect that these films WILL show something that makes you uncomfortable. It’s what they are supposed to do. To expect otherwise is discrediting the genres as a whole. Those genres are not made to warn you. They are not made to make sure you’re going to walk out a cinema perfectly fine, they wanna scar you. Eli Roth, that’s his literal goal. He wants to show you the most fucked up things he can because he can. That’s the genre. And he’s brilliant. But, if he told you “this film contains x,y,z” he won’t get that reaction. The whole of horror/thriller/suspense is SHOCK value. Making everyone as scared and uncomfortable as humanly possible while telling a story. They can’t do that by giving trigger warnings to every possible trigger because that just gives away the movie. Mental illness for example, if Oculus had told you that, the entire film would have been spoiled. Don’t Breathe, had the scene at the end where he tries to impregnate her through a turkey baster. That scene HAD to be there, it wasn’t graphic, just enough to give you the idea and she gets saved anyway. BUT, if there had been a trigger warning, that’s it. It’s spoiled.

I’m not saying everyone has to go read a book if the movie/show is based off the book, however, there is a book. There is a book which means there are reviews. There are people who have read it. It’s out there. People can do their research and if they’re people who get triggered by the horror/thriller/suspense genres, they should have to do their research before they see a film and then try to convince other people how shitty it is.

Why should people who like these genres have to deal with spoilers because people are lazy? That’s all it is. People are too lazy to look into a film before seeing it and because of that, people who genuinely LOVE the genres, should have to suffer? I don’t think that’s fair.

And trailers do exist and trailers are pretty indicators about where a film is going to go. Take Edge Of Winter for example. If you watch the trailer, it’s very obvious that there will be SOME form of child abuse. The dad is out of his fucking mind and traps his kids in the woods with him. But, people ARE STILL complaining that there wasn’t a warning. But, had they watched the trailer or done a simple search about the film, they would have known.

That’s not it though. Horror as the genre stands isn’t ABOUT the gore or the violence, it’s scaring you and making you uncomfortable. That’s why it’s called “horror” so everything goes. Everything SHOULD be expected. Child abuse, molestation, gore, violence, animal death, suicide, everything because everything can people uncomfortable. IF horror movies had to start labeling their triggers, they’d never get a person in the door to see the film because people would still be reading the ridiculously long list of unneeded trigger warnings.

Criminal Minds has never once had a trigger warning and they’ve dealt with everything I’ve just listed. Same goes for SVU. Why is that horror/thriller/suspense films/Netflix shows get backlash for “not having trigger warnings” but shows played on regular TV don’t? You know what you’re getting into with all of these. The information is all right there. You can easily access anything. If shows on regular cable don’t need trigger warnings, tv shows/films in the horror/thriller/suspense genres DEFINITELY don’t.