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littlest-salomon · 1 year
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If anyone still cares about the Wakan Tanka/Great Spirit Gate discussion:
(I haven't yet read the Invaders chapter where Wakan Tanka's alternate form and more story content is introduced; however, I did notice the reference to US settler's mass bison slaughter in his type and design)
1. Inclusion: In the context of the Housamo world, leaving out Native religions would mean that they had been destroyed and their spiritual beings dispersed or dead; in the context of Housamo as a game, leaving them out would essentially be a statement that they didn't matter as much as other Northern Hemisphere religions, which would leave the Lovecraft mythos as the only representative "religion" for North America.
2. Indigenous identity: Housamo also includes Gates for the religious cosmology of two Indigenous peoples within Japan's own borders--Ainu and Ryukyans--as well as Central American and Oceanic Indigenous worlds. If including Indigenous religions is a problem, it's much bigger than just Great Spirit.
3. Equality: Along with Indigenous religions, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shinto, and more are all represented in Housamo. Every character is designed to be sexy because it's still a dating game and the only ones who can't be in romantic relationships are either beyond evil, overpowered (Wakan Tanka explicitly reigns in his power to be fair to other people/divinities), walking spoilers, your character's legal guardian, and/or not romanceable yet.
4: Representation: Wakan Tanka is depicted as an all-loving, all-good ultimate divinity who chose to incarnate as a person in Tokyo to experience human life and to bring the exiled player character back to Great Spirit, which seems to be a wonderful world. Meanwhile, on the colonist side, the player character is literally Satan and the Christian Eden is written as an aggressive, exclusionary nightmare that some transients voluntarily leave as protest.
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5: It's the Internet: I really doubt that many people who seek out fandoms and DM random members to say that their interest is problematic are solely motivated by social justice concerns. People love doing drive-by attacks on other social groups and fandoms online, especially if they feel like they have the moral high ground: it takes barely any effort and the "win" gives them a serotonin boost. Ironically, Mononobe's description of the App makes it unambiguous (imo) that Housamo's App battles are a metaphor for this uniquely online experience. Attack is much easier than defense: look at how long this defense of one single aspect of this game is, vs the ease of trawling the Housamo tag and choosing a target for whatever "Housamo is bad" argument they have on hand.
6: Who's Asking?: Unless they say they are, it's unlikely that any one given person complaining about Wakan Tanka is Native (note: the person who asked me about it did not claim to be Native, IIRC), even less likely that they're from a nation that worships Wakan Tanka, and even less likely that they've played Housamo long enough to ever encounter Wakan Tanka. Some people treat social justice as a hobby and criticizing video games is a lot easier and more fun than stuff like voting or donating money to reservation communities.
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mail-forwarding · 8 months
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The Role of Memories
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(Valentine Extravangaza — Surtr's internal monologue)
My sweet child, and my irreplaceable seed of the future... If you truly wish to leave nothing and no-one by the wayside... Then you must tread innumerable paths of tragedy, again, and again, and again. In the end, the day will come when you remember it all, and on that day will you truly be tested. On that day, you will turn your back on Paradise, with the weight of this world borne on your shoulders. I pray that when it comes, your memories of this sweet paradise will steady your hands and guide your feet.
I find this prediction of Surtr's rather haunting. We know from the main quest what the cost of bearing memories is. We even know what the cost was to MC—not simply the forgetting of their own prior to their summoning, but Lil Salomon too, that feeling of loneliness and incompleteness that follows them even in events, where there should only be happiness.
What will it cost them to take in all of the memories they've lived? And would this include the memories of the Exiles too, the lives they've never lived, but that nonetheless belong to them?
But I also find this hopeful too. This remembrance will put them directly on par with WR and Pillars. And though that last sentence in this prediction is merely a hope, I think it will come true: though the burden will be heavy, it will also ultimately steady their hands and guide their feet. Despite the personal cost, MC will ultimately achieve their goal—save every single person in Tokyo and break through the loops. And I think "every single person" will include MC themself.
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asterinstar · 2 years
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Ngl I feel bad for Varuna Kamadeva because like imagine that you shoot a love arrow at THE indian god of destruction to make him fall in love with a woman BUT INSTEAD HE FALLS FOR YOU AND IS NOW SEARCHING FOR YOUR ASS TO BEAT YOU UP FOR IT!!! THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO NOT FUCK UP YOUR JOB PEOPLE DESTRUCTIVE VIRGINS WILL BEAT YOUR ASS FOR IT
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superchaipa · 1 year
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"If a Summoner sees them as individuals" who other than MC to see them as individuals?
We can also see in the main story that they don't show any emotion either.
They are here and they fight.
But things are different with MC. What they value most is the bonds they have with others. And you can bet your ass Mc is going to go above and beyond to give the Einherjars emotions.
MC's very own babies.
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summocrap · 2 years
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Ngl, I always find the concept 'The Game is school exclusive App' bizarre and a bit too convenient.
I don't think the App itself is school exclusive.
There are transients like Barguest and the rest of the Wanderers who are a part of the game but completely unaffiliated with any school.
I think it's just the fact that all transients must start associated with a school that gives the App such an intense presence among students and stuff.
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lilbearuri · 9 months
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I have noticed that I'm one of the few fem-presenting people that like Wakan Tanka 😭 Why??!?! he's so baby 🥺💕
I love knowing more and more about his lore even that I have never played the game.
Also he has been my supreme husbando for like 5+ years. He's just so perfect 🥺💕
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thisuglyangel · 1 year
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Life wonders making miss Ziz into a big sister character instead of a milf will have detrimental effects to the storyline just you wait
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justlarkin · 1 month
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Hi! Sorry for bothering you. But I'm writing my own fanfiction of housamo, the whole game in fact, but I'm having complications on understanding the reasons why most of the exiles were banished according to their worlds rules... I'm not very smart and wiki information is incomplete or too difficult to get... could you please help me by sharing a simple explanation....?
No bother. I don't get some of the lore stuff in housamo either, so don't feel dumb about it.
So the general reason they were exiled is because the rebelled against the worlds' system in some way and had to be removed to protect their systems. Not all of the exiles' rules and backstories have been revealed yet, so I'm not sure about all of them currently.
-Takamagahara's system tosses away anything undesirable and works with Amaterasu exposing everyone's sins with her light and reflecting their shame back at them to keep them in line. Susanoo felt zero shame and therefore couldn't be controlled that way, so he was eventually sent away due to his behavior.
-The World of the Old Ones exists within Azathoth's dream, so invading one's dream without consent is considered very taboo and is forbidden. Cthulhu's ability allowed him to invade other's dreams whenever, which of course violated that big rule.
-Hourai's system runs on the belief of letting nature run it's course and not interfering, but Nüwa would constantly interfere by causing and trying to prevent wars and disasters.
-The Oceanic Realm's system is the belief that in the end everything and everyone will sink to the bottom of the ocean for eternity. From what little we learned from Gurangatch, the Rainbow Serpent would rise from the depths again and again, so while everything else would sink forever, they wouldn't.
-Great Spirit's system is the belief in unity with everyone being one with Wakan Tanka. Heyoka's eccentric behavior caused him to become a social pariah and an outcast, separating him from Wakan Tanka and the rest of Great Spirit, so he was exiled.
-Olympus' system relies heavily on everyone's connection to the world representative, Zeus, most importantly the familial and sexual bonds. Eurynome's rule allowed her to rend bloodlines and anything that stemmed from said bloodline such as curses, so the Olympians would've been screwed with most of them, especially the key players, being related to Zeus in some way. Also, Eurynome's relationship with Zeus isn't known yet, so there could've been more there. Another thought I've seen is that Eurynome might've rejected Zeus, which is unheard of with the way his power works, on top of the bloodline thing.
-Varuna-Kamadeva and Asura were essentially exiled for the opposite reasons. Shangri La's system is the belief that one should let go of all of their attachments to achieve enlightenment. A situation happened where one of Smokey God's other friends did something to Asura's daughter and he became enraged and attacked them. Unable to let go of his anger and wanting to continue fighting, he was exiled. Either Asura himself or a part of himself that he cut off went to Deva Loka and became known as Varuna.
I can't remember the exact way Deva Loka functions, but Varuna was the omnipotent world representative who would gift parts of his power to others. He would continue doing this until he was left with nothing but love and desire and became known as Varuna-Kamadeva. That's when the others decided that he wasn't fit to be world representative anymore and wanted him to relinquish that role to Shiva by making him fall for Parvati. And obviously Shiva blasted him once Varuna shot him with an arrow, exiling him. So since he became unworthy of the role of world representative once he lost his attachments, I guess the belief focuses on holding onto one's attachments.
-Yggdrasil holds the belief that the world will eventually experience Ragnarok and the era of gods will end, making way for the era of humanity. This of course never happened since Loki confined Yggdrasil within a wall that causes the world to loop post Ragnarok the same way Tokyo's wall functions. It's a world of those destined to fall, but Freyr couldn't be defeated as long as he had the power to rend through defeat, so he had to go. There's also just the fact that Freyr seemed to be opposed to meaningless sacrifice like what the gods intended to do for humanity.
-Kitezh's system is belief of diffusion, so pretty much just combining and spreading into other sources to achieve power. Maybe it's more parasitic or infectious in nature. Like if they were to be attacked by invaders, Perun could mix himself into their memories to mess with and dominate them for example. Perun lived heavily by this belief, but the ultimate goal of diffusion is complete assimilation, to be combined everyone, so you're no longer identifiable to one location. He attempted to do this by removing all documented traces of himself, but the problem was Veles existed. Veles' rules, his words, allowed him to separate and isolate things, so he was potentially able to untangle everything achieved through diffusion. Ofc Perun wasn't the one who wanted him to go, but he still violated the belief of the world.
Those are the ones I could think of rn, some of them haven't been revealed clearly or I'm just blanking rn.
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kairunatic · 2 months
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Fabulous Summer Host
Ep 5 (After)
>>Link to the previous Episode
So back again from housamo yeah I could have read this yesterday but school sort of drained me and it was a Good thing I read this today cause I seriously need a distraction from AE news ugh lol
Anyway let's start
Also this is a long one
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So we start with some Kitezh lore about its system
A Diffusion system is where everything is assimilating to a higher being which in this case is Perun.
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But despite Perun conquering and owning everything in Kitezh, there was someone who refused to go along with him, and that's none other than Veles. Who is the only person to ever criticise him even in his death and to this Day Perun wonder why Veles is like this
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dorokora · 1 month
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Another thing I dislike about the Housamo lore is that bs “children of Cronus are not allowed to be summoned in Tokyo” rule from the summopedia file.
Because of that we never got Poseidon, we’ll never see Zeus (not like we can anyway because Perun took his spot), we won’t see Hestia or Demeter (we could’ve had some grandma characters), and we won’t see Hera, Hades, or even Chiron (which I consider the biggest miss opportunities)
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The housamo filipino transients au
get ready this is gonna be a long ass lore post
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Character lore
Mayari / libulan
their guild is the warmongers, and they are the world rep of biringan.
their sacred artifact is an artifact resembling the phases of the moon, through this they can change forms and bring about growth and abundance or the opposite
mayari is the world rep for biringan, and they have the added ability too switch between two forms, mayari and libulan. changing between these forms change their personalities directly as well as their gender, as mayari they are a female who is often aloof and serious. she is described as serious and even aggressive when talked too. often biting back to banter, while as libulan he is a male who is described as relaxed and friendly, but also being described as distant
Corazon
their guild is the summoners, and they are a student in shinjuku academy
their sacred artifact is their wings which he can use to fly at very fast speed at night.
Corazon is a very friendly delivery boy who is always willing to help (though often this gets taken advantage of) at night he transforms into a Manananggal, a vampire who separates their torso from their legs and sprouts wings. he uses this at night to make deliveries very quickly and is regarded as the best delivery boy. due to this he often collaborates with the tokyo santa academy, and through flying he met one of his best friends, a vampire by the name of Ellie.
Ibong adarna
Their sacred artifact is their feathers and song, his song can immobilize people and his feathers can heal injuries as well as the immobilization
their guild in the entertainers
Ibong adarna is a flashy and showy singer and dancer based in kabukicho, he is often described as flamboyant and charming, always wanting to be the center of attention. due to this however he often clashes with a similarly flashy berserker from Ikebukuro, they often get into fights which tend to attract large crowds.
Bakunawa
his sacred artifact is his maw, which can consume heavenly bodies
his guild is the missionaries
the bakunawa is transient with a deep connection to exception space, he is part of something that should've been rejected from ever playing this game and as such he is often hidden away from the public eye where he lives in the background the game. the bakunawa dislikes the dark and has an interest in people who shine bright such as idols, a prime example being gabriel. through this he found one of his closest friends, hati.
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littlest-salomon · 1 year
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Free Housamo Sources: Oni
This scholarly work on oni folklore throughout the centuries has realms of information, both on Oni Brethren characters in general and on specific, named individuals, including Shuten, Ibaraki, Red Oni, and even Motosumi (did you know that Motosumi, his twins, and his oni-friendly philosophy are from real legends? I didn't!). The author goes into various iterations and meanings of the oni throughout time, and we can see the disturbing real-life roots of game content like Toji's "Orphan Fangs" and Yoritomo's fictionalized/softened hatred of "oni."
It's a surprisingly easy read and includes some fun details along with the heavy stuff, like the author's exploration of the idea that all oni (not just Ibaraki) are genderqueer and the theory that Shuten may be Spanish.
https://archive.org/details/JapaneseDemonLore/page/n8/mode/1up
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mail-forwarding · 8 months
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Finally read Mystic Christmas and.... wow, that sure is a lot of narrative foils going on... Tomte for MC, Ded for Mononobe, the unfair naughty/nice dichotomy for the Game/loops, the imposition of Eden's belief system for the superimpositions of the Exiles......
Heck, you can even make the argument that Tomte's struggle to repress his naughty side parallels the fact that MC is never given the opportunity to actually voice their grievances. They always have to be nice and forgiving, and if not entirely understanding, then at least sympathetic, and definitely compassionate. They always have to rush to help, because if they're not good, if they're not needed, then why would anyone want them around? What meaning would there be to their existence(s)?
(And the whole, "I hate the symbol, but I want the man behind it back. My life went to hell because of what he represents, but I want him back. He gave me an impossible choice, then made the choice for me, without saying anything, before I could even make it, because he knew that either choice would hurt me, but the choosing most of all. Still, I want him back.")
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superchaipa · 1 year
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Remember that this loop we are in is the only loop Lil'Salomon is in as well. (Maybe because we are the real MC and not a clone)
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So, you're telling you are my shadow ?
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It sucks to be Lil'Salomon...
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I would have thrown myself into battle and died. And THEN you would have died as well. And I would have never remembered you.
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Exactly.
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Agreed.
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Lil'Salomon is in an awful situation. He is small he is weak and the person he is suppose to watch over is a reckless thot. If they die he dies and there very little he can do about that.
Poor baby.
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summocrap · 2 years
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Nah evangelion ramiel claps the housamoverse no cap
Good point.
Counterpoint.
They literally can't win. Like, the literal rules of the game state that World Reps. are just stronger than everyone else.
Disregarding Goku being an alien, Goku couldn't beat them. You know how when your playing pretend with your 8 year old cousin?
Yeah, it's like that.
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npdlicht · 1 year
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Hey! I noticed you already like Hakumen, so I'll start out with a slight change to my 'starter asks'. So, do you have any sort of pairings and headcanons concerning Haku? I'd love to hear them!
Howdy!
In regards to ships with other canon characters I haven't put too much thought into it. I should replay the game so I can touch up on Housamo lore again lmao
I do have some HCs for my selfship with her though! ovo
Domme with few exceptions. Because she's so smitten with Nüwa I feel she'd trust MC (or in this case, my sona/self-insert) enough to be willing to sub. Essentially, my sona is the Domme's Domme. :P
The two go clothes shopping a lot so my sona ends up with a massive wardrobe from her (and from Licht but I'll leave my HCs for him in another post x) ). The two also love dressing each other up. 💜💖
I'm sure I'll think up more eventually. This is going off what I remember last time I played & analyzed the plot of Housamo as well as conversations I've had with friends. x)
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