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buff-muffin · 8 months
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Thinkem bout… the ASL brothers and their relationship with clothing. Admittedly this is leaning more to head canon but fuck you.
I was just sorta thinking about the fact Makino would come visit and bring the boys clothing and what that must have meant to them. Like sure. Luffy was with Makino for the first few years of his life so this is normal. But he’s a (semi) growing boy living in the mountains they didn’t have clothes to spare so there was a good chance Luffy mainly started to wear hand me downs from Ace (or at least any that hadn’t been worn thread thin) so Makino was probably the only chance for him growing up to have his own shirts.
Which is cute and all. But then you get to Ace and Sabo and it gets so much sadder
Cause like. Sabo is the only one who never wears a different outfit and we KNOW Makino gave him some. He was wearing a different shirt when she visited. And and we know Ace would 100% let Sabo use his shirts. He’s not materialistic about fashion. Yett he doesn’t. And sure, Sabo may just prefer to dress more distinguished from his brothers. But he hates being a Nobel. Wouldn’t he have lept at the chance to be more normal? Or did he feel he couldn’t be. That he didn’t deserve to? Not someone with blood like his…
And then there is ACE. He grew up with Bandits that definitely cared… to a degree, but clearly were not prepared to raise a kid. And it wasn’t like they could just, take him shopping, I get the feeling Ace never really had clothes that fit him right. Always two or three sizes too big or shoes too tight. He was told he would simply grow into them and not much of a whiner, he simply just accepted that. But we SEE Makino actually making sure his clothes fit right. She makes sure to hold it up and get him clothes in his size. And sure he may have had a childhood crush on her or something. But that may as well also be the first time someone’s ever actually measured him for clothing and the first times he’s ever been given a shirt that fits just right. A new experience for him and something I truly think he would have treasured.
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cuddlesslut · 4 years
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A Happy Accident
Definitely Nsfw! And Crack 😊
Summary: it's an honest mistake really sending a message to the wrong chat. But what about when you send your nude to the wrong chat...
Warning: Nsfw, pet names, degradation,daddy kink, sex, fingering, anal, double penetration, blow jobs
Please Read. This is my first time writing smut. And it took me a long time to write this. I'm sorry in advance for any and all grammar and spelling errors. I hope you enjoy it and that it's up to your standards. 💕💕😚💕💕
Part Seven: The deed
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You stood next to these boys several times before but never before had you realized how tall they actually were. Towering over you. Maybe teasing them so much while you were at school wasnt such a good idea because as soon as the three volleyball players stepped into your room, the door was locked, you were pushed against into their embrace their hands flying to you not missing a beat. You stood there your shirt had been removed leaving you in only your bra, school skirt, and panties that were getting more and more drenched. Your back was pressed tightly again Bokuto's chest his mouth placed hot, messy kisses on your neck. As Kuroo’s tongue danced in your mouth stealing the air out of your lungs. You threw your head back against Bo’s shoulder biting your lip trying to suppress the moan errupting from you as he snuck his hand in between you and the middle blocker grazing his fingers over clothed warmth . You felt slender fingers grasp on to your jaw directing your attention to Akaashi who stood next to the group. Your eyes locked on to his pretty dick in his hand thumb rubbing over his red tip stroking his length.  
“look at me baby girl,” the setter said “i want to hear you, Understand,” his tight grip loosening his fingers moved from your jaw to your swollen lips. His thumb rubbing over bottom lip just as you had seen him do to the tip of his hard cock. Another moan ripped from your throat as Bokuto finally slipped his hand under the fabric petting his fingers through your folds.
“Aaah Bo-,” you were cut off by kaashi two fingers being shoved into your mouth.
“Suck.” he stated voice firm as his eyes bore into yours. Not needing to be told twice you wrapped you lips around his digits tongue swirling around them. 
“Fuck, Kitten,” Kurro chuckled “Youre such a good girl,” he praised. His large hand roaming around your chest reach behind you to undo your bra. Finally freeing your breast the cold air stinging your hard nipples. His rough fingers caressing the hardened nub. Causing you to arch into the touch moaning around Akaashi's slender fingers.
“beautiful ,” Kurro cooed. moving his lips down to your breast taking a bud into his mouth sending shivers down your spine, feeling his hot mouth on your breast while he pinched the other sending you into even more of a sexual frenzy.  
Seeing this as the perfect opportunity the ace behind you finally inserted two fingers into your wet heat. causing you to squeak from the sudden sinful stretch of your most sensitive area feeling with fingers being squeezed by your aching heat.
“shit ,” he cursed feeling his fingers being sucked into you “you're so fucking tight my little whore,,” he groaned into your ear finally stopping the assault on your neck that had no doubt was covered in bruises. “ that greedy little cunt of yours is just swallowing my fingers up. he laughed as he thrusted his fingers in and out of your heat curling his fingers and touching the perfect spot deep inside of you.
Akaashi could see your high climbing and see you so close to your first release he removed his fingers from your mouth a string of saliva trailing from his digits to you. He moved his hand down to your neglected bundle of nerves. 
Its like these boys were telepathic the way they worked so in sync working your body over. Your legs feeling weak as Bokuto fingers pistioned in and out of you. Kuroo rolling a nipple in between his teeth. His right hand gripping on to your free tit. the final straw was the light pinch kaashi gave your clit. Sending waves of pleasure over you stimulated body. a lewd moan ripping through you as your legs gave out from under you.
Bokuto's strong arms wrapping around you guiding you to the bed so you can catch your breath. Resting in the center of the bed you throw your head back chest rising from what could probably be the best orgasm you've had so far. You look up to see that the three boys had rid themselves of their clothes. standing there in front of you almost predatory. they stood there with so much confidence looking like three Greek Gods. Eyes scanning their bodies you felt your arousel growing as your eyes dropped to what each of them were packing. Eyes blown wide with lust and wonder at how you were going to take all of them. You bit your lip looking at your three lovers. Kuroo smirking at you , Akaashi had a stoic look almost emotionless but his eyes said it all they stared deep into to you with such intensity. His eyes showing just as much lust for you as you had for him. Bokuto however stood there the most mischievous grin. 
“Are you okay baby girl?” akaashi questioned.
“Yes sir “
“Good,” he climbed into the bed with you. crawling between your thighs.” then theres no need for these,” he smirk pulling you lace panties and Nekoma skirt down your legs leaving you completely bare to the boys in front you. 
Akaashi made his way over you body pinning you to the bed his hands running up you figure before he captured you in a searing kiss. your tongues struggling for dominance in which the setter quickly won the battle and ground his hard cock against you causing you to gasp from the friction. 
“She makes the pretty sounds doesnt she” Kuroo praised 
“fuck.. dont forget to share Akaashi,” bokuto smirked
“OH dont worry shes gunna take care of all of us, arent you baby,” he stated no question in his voice as he flipped the two of you. So you were now straddling his waist. 
‘ yes ,” you mumbled lost in the feeling of his hot length sliding against you clit.
Akaashi hand wound its way into your hair tugging slightly pulling you head back.
“what was that Baby Girl?” eyebrows hitch in a stern questioning look. a domineering look that cause a flood of frustration straight to your center.
“YES SIR ,” you gasped . 
“Wow kaashi you got her trained so well already,” bokuto chuckled from his new position behind you. His strong hands firmly grabbing at you plump ass. 
“Dont worry,” he said said breath hitting you as he nipped at your ear. “ were going to take good care off you too.” 
You shuddered from the promise Bo made getting lost in a frenzy of thoughts. all the different ways they could use your body. Akaashi could see the excitement you radiated. He readjusted himself his tip grazing your soaked entrance. He looked up to your eyes waiting for the reassurance you quickly gave him before pushing his head past your folds slowing pulling you farther down his length. You were lost in the beautiful sight in front of you that was stoic Akaashi Keiji eyes pressed shut, head tilted back and lip pressed between his teeth , in pleasure as he felt you tight cunt clinching around him. Finally reaching the base you shuddered from how much he stretched you.
On the other side if you you could feel Bokutos fingers now slathered in lube start to prep your second hole. “be a good slut and show me how well you take care of them,” he smirked. Directing your attention to Kuroo. Who now stood next to the three of them. His heavy dick in hand the swollen tip leaking precum.
“You ready to suck Daddys cock Kitten?” He asked patting his hot length against your face sliding it to your soft lips. leaving behind a sticky trail of precum. You open your mouth giving little kitten lick to his flushed tip staring straight into his eyes. 
“good girl,” he purred as you wrapped your lips around him. your tongue swirling around his member as you took him farther into you mouth.
“Mmmhn” you moaned around Kuroo as Akaashi started his assault on you pussy snapping his hips up. His length hitting deep inside of you. Akaashis largers hands grabbed at your cheeks pulling them further apart helping Bokuto sink two fingers into you tight whole. You choked around Kuroo as Bo breached the tight muscle.
“Fuck Kitten,” Kuroo moaned as you took him farther into you wet mouth. His right hand gripped tightly into you H/C hair as he fucked into your wide open mouth. His left hand grabbing and pinching your perky nipples. Tears prickling your eyes from the stimulation as Akaashi contiued drilling into you. “You're such a good girl.”
Akaashi was amazed as the sight in front of him. You looking so utterly helpless being attaked on all sides. He reached one of his hands up to your neck feel Kuroo hard cock sliding down you throat as you took all of him. 
You start to squeeze tight as you high started approaching. And you werent the only one . Kuroo thrust getting sloppy as he fucked deep into your face.
“im going to come Kitten,” he warned. But you continued your assault hollowing your cheeks around him finally drawing out his orgasm as he spilt his seed into your mouth . He pulled out leaving a trail of white that spilt down your chin. Ypu swallowed the load. smiling up at Kuroo. 
Your attenion brought back to your situation as Boukto pushed you forward pressing you chest into Akaashi. Giving him easy access as he started to push his tip into your prepped entrance. Kaashi slowed down his movement to better help you adjust to Bo slowly sinking farther into your ass. Both stilled allowing you to adjust to the intrusion. Akaashi took you lips into a reassuring kiss as Bokuto ran his hands down your back soothingly. 
“Are you ready Y/n,” Bokuto asked.
“Yes please move, both of you,” you gasp going stir crazy.
The boys started their movement, Moving in tandem never letting you feel empty. Your had never felt more full. Your high quickly approaching again. your walls begin closing around Akaashi and it clear he wont last much longer with how you closing around him. He sped up his thrust. moving like a man on a mission, His grip on your waist bruising as drove into you most sensitive spot driving you over the edge.
“Kaaashi,” you exclamied as your body shook from pleasure. Your heat clenched tight around his length. Pushing Akaashi into his own release painting your walls in his white seed. Your arms gave out causing you to fall into his chest. You barried your face in the crook of his neck anchoring yourself as Bokuto continued his assault from behind.
“Fuck that was hot watching your slutty pussy taking all of kaashi,” he goaded. “hows it feel being stuffed full of our cum Y/N” he continued. he looked down at his cock disappearing inside your tight ass. 
“Sht your doing such a good job being our cumslut,” he said giving your ass a hard smack. Causing you to bite into Akaashi’s neck as Bo fucked you into his best friend. Your intense orgasm building again quicker this time from the added stimulation of your previous pleasure.
“come for me one more time Y/n” bokuto commanded as he moved a hand around to your clit. Rubbing your bundle of nerves sending sparks of electricity through you body pull a scream from your overstimulated body as you came hard. Your scream alone was enough to send Bokuto into a frenzy as he fucked you through your relase before emptying himself to you. 
Nothing was heard in the room except the heavy breathing of all its occupants. Your body finally betraying you as you collasped on to the bed. Your legs shaking. 
“You did amazing Beautiful,” Bokuto said moving up to you placing a kiss to your temple smoothing your hair out of you exhausted face. Akaashi rubbed his hand soothingly over body.
“lets clean you up Kitten,” kuroo said kissing your lips once more.
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erraticfairy · 5 years
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Podcast: Dwelling on the Past Mistakes Caused by Mental Illness

Once we reach recovery from mental illness, we tend to dwell on the mistakes of our past. Thoughts of failures and people we’ve hurt ruminate inside our head and make it difficult to move forward.
Why do we think about these things? Does it protect us, make us feel better, or is it way to keep us from moving forward? In this episode, our hosts discuss their past failures in the hopes it allows our listeners to realize living in the past only really accomplishes one thing . . .
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“It just creeps into the deep dark depths of my head and it just goes around, and around, and around.” – Michelle Hammer
  Highlights From ‘Ruminations’’ Episode
[2:00] We are talking about ruminations today
[4:30] Ruminations feed delusions
[6:00] Gabe dwells on his past wives
[8:20] Michelle ruminates about how her brother treated her in the past
[11:00] Gabe tried to set up his brother to get in trouble
[13:00] We want Michelle to make amends with her brother
[18:00] Why ruminating is detrimental to your health.
[19:30] Gabe dwells about his biological father
[21:00] Why can’t we just get over things and move on?
Computer Generated Transcript for ‘Dwelling on the Past Mistakes Caused by Mental Illness’ Show
Editor’s Note: Please be mindful that this transcript has been computer generated and therefore may contain inaccuracies and grammar errors. Thank you.
Announcer: [00:00:07] For reasons that utterly escape everyone involved, you’re listening to A Bipolar, A Schizophrenic, and A Podcast. Here are your hosts, Gabe Howard and Michelle Hammer.
Gabe: [00:00:19] You’re listening to a person living with bipolar, a person living with schizophrenia, and a digital portable media file. My name is Gabe Howard and I’m a person living with bipolar disorder.
Michelle: [00:00:28] Hi, I’m Michelle Hammer and I’m a person living with schizophrenia. Are you guys happy now?
Gabe: [00:00:33] Yeah. See we changed it for everybody.
Michelle: [00:00:36] My god, don’t write any more letters. Please stay off our social media. Person first language, okay?
Gabe: [00:00:43] I think we did it. I think, you know, by doing it this way, though we have now wiped out discrimination. We’ve wiped out stigma. There’s enough beds for everybody. Homelessness due to mental illness is gone. There’s nobody incarcerated in prisons. By using person first language we have solved all of those other problems, right?
Michelle: [00:01:04] We must of. That’s why person’s first language is always number one comment we get. Absolutely.
Gabe: [00:01:09] Hang on. I’m getting a weird text message.
Michelle: [00:01:11] Oh. Oh no, what happened?
Gabe: [00:01:13] Yeah. It turns out we didn’t do anything. We didn’t do anything. Like a person first language. It didn’t. It didn’t solve any problems. No. Now people are mad at us for mocking them.
Michelle: [00:01:22] Oh, no! We mocked people? We never make fun of anything on this show.
Gabe: [00:01:27] We were always so polite and professional and educational. We never say fuck.
Michelle: [00:01:32] We never say fuck, or suck my dick, or your –
Gabe: [00:01:37] [Laughter]
Michelle: [00:01:37] God, Gabe, what are you laughing at? I’m being really serious right now. I’m a person living with schizophrenia. I am a person living with my past.
Gabe: [00:01:45] You’re a person living with your past?
Michelle: [00:01:46] My past that I dwell on with my ruminations. Now I’m going to ruminate about this situation: that I couldn’t make the world better. I need to make the world better. Gabe, I need to make the world better.
Gabe: [00:01:58] This is the worst segue in the history of our show. And that, that’s saying something. Because we’ve had some mighty awful segues.
Michelle: [00:02:08] What are we doing?
Gabe: [00:02:11] In case you haven’t figured it out, ladies and gentlemen, we are talking about things that we have ruminated on both before we were diagnosed, during like the recovery period where we’re trying to get better, and things that still kind of haunt us today and we are going to desperately eke 20 minutes out of this.
Michelle: [00:02:26] Desperately.
Gabe: [00:02:28] So Michelle what are some ruminations that like today think the last six months as longtime listener of this show know we’re in recovery. You are doing quite well despite the fact that you’re a schizophrenic. I am doing quite well despite the fact that I’m living with bipolar disorder we’ve gotten over mania depression psychosis and everything in between. But we still ruminate on things because one everybody does. We should probably start there. Do you think that ruminating about things is the domain of only people with mental illness or do you think that everybody ruminates?
Michelle: [00:02:59] I think everybody ruminates to a certain extent. It’s fine ruminating, you just can’t stop it is when it really gets out of control.
Gabe: [00:03:07] I like that we’ve challenged ourselves to put the word “ruminating” in this show as many times as possible.
Michelle: [00:03:13] How do you spell this word?
Gabe: [00:03:15] I have no idea. I have no idea that that’s really a problem for the show
Michelle: [00:03:19] Should we define ruminating for people?
Gabe: [00:03:20] Do it.
Michelle: [00:03:21] Ruminating is when you can think of the same thing over and over and over again you just cannot get it out of your head. It just goes around and around and around. Usually it drives you nuts.
Gabe: [00:03:33] So, for example, Michelle’s mother, who has absolutely no mental illness to speak of, ruminates about why Michelle is a failure.
Michelle: [00:03:42] Hey.
Gabe: [00:03:42] It just she can’t get it out of her head.
Michelle: [00:03:44] I’m not a failure.
Gabe: [00:03:45] I didn’t say that you were. I said that your mother ruminates about it.
Michelle: [00:03:47] She does not.
Gabe: [00:03:48] I mean maybe a little bit?
Michelle: [00:03:49] She doesn’t.
Gabe: [00:03:50] Okay well my mother despite having no mental illness whatsoever ruminates on whether or not I’m going to throw her under the bus on a podcast.
Michelle: [00:03:58] Does she?
Gabe: [00:03:58] I mean, probably.
Michelle: [00:03:59] I don’t know.
Gabe: [00:04:01] Yeah, I don’t think she gives a shit.
Michelle: [00:04:02] I often ruminate why I was fired from any previous job.
Gabe: [00:04:05] Do you ruminate about being fired from the job as a symptom of schizophrenia? Or is it just something that you wish you could go back in time and figure out?
Michelle: [00:04:14] Well it’s more like different situations that happened and how I wish I could have handled them differently.
Gabe: [00:04:19] But doesn’t everybody do that? Like do you ever do this? And be honest, I mean sincerely be honest. Remember we value honesty. Do you ever get in a fight with your girlfriend, and like you’re fighting, you’re yelling, you’re screaming, and then you retreat to separate corners. All is quiet. It’s over, you’ve made up and you think, “God, I wish I would have said that?” Or like you run through it in your mind?
Michelle: [00:04:40] But that’s different than ruminating.
Gabe: [00:04:42] Well, how is it?
Michelle: [00:04:43] Different for me? Because ruminating just doesn’t stop it. I’ll go around and around and around and even when I’m walking through the street walking through anything I almost will turn delusional and think I’m with those other people having that conversation start getting angry just start making the whole situation 8 million times worse than it was because I keep thinking about it over and over and over and over and over and over again. It won’t go away and if they hate it so much.
Gabe: [00:05:08] In your mind ruminating and delusions they feed each other?
Michelle: [00:05:13] Yes absolutely.
Gabe: [00:05:14] First you’re thinking about the thing. I got fired. They fired me. H.R. called walk me down with the seventh time I got. By the time you’re done you’re back in that time and place. You’re feeling it again and it’s like it’s happening right now. Even though it was three years ago.
Michelle: [00:05:26] Yes.
Gabe: [00:05:27] Wow. Does that still happen to you like in 2019? Does this still happen to Michelle Hammer?
Michelle: [00:05:32] Yes.
Gabe: [00:05:33] What’s the coping skill to get around it? Because you’re right. You’re a well accomplished person. Why do we care?
Michelle: [00:05:38] Honestly, talking about the ruminating thoughts. Because when you talk about the ruminating thoughts usually the person you’re talking to is going, “Why do you care so much about this?” You maybe talk it out a little bit, and then you’re like, “Wow. You’re right. Who cares about this dumb stupid person or this story or anything about the situation. It’s so useless why am I thinking about it so much and you can’t change the past anyway. You’re right. I talked it out. Now I feel better.
Gabe: [00:06:03] But can’t you kinda change the past?  Can’t you remember it differently? You can’t you edit it in your mind, can’t you fix the things that have gone wrong previously in the future just like with different people?
Michelle: [00:06:16] You mean like learning from your past?
Gabe: [00:06:17] No. Learning sounds mature and we don’t really like that here.
Michelle: [00:06:21] OK. So then I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Gabe: [00:06:23] Here’s a good example. I’m on my third marriage. My wife is wonderful and I love her and this marriage has stood many many years. And I have no complaints. I want to say that right now. But I’ve been divorced twice. Not nasty divorces, but, you know, things that didn’t feel good. And I’ve been through breakups etc.. So every now and again my wife will do something and it will remind me of something that my ex-wife did and I’ll think. “Wait a minute. You know I let that go when wife number two did it. So I have to fix it with wife number three.” Even though they’re a completely different person. It’s a completely different time and nothing is the same except for maybe like one little thing. Don’t you ever do that? Like don’t you ever try to set a boundary with your current friend that you didn’t set with your last friend that is now you’re like mortal enemy?
Michelle: [00:07:10] No.
Gabe: [00:07:11] No?
Michelle: [00:07:11] No. Something that I do I know I do with my anxiety but I put on other people, is that I’ll start asking them a million questions about things. And then they’re like, “Why are you asking me a million questions?” And I’m like, “Oh, it’s my anxiety. I just wondered at the time? I just wondered if you know the place? I just wanted to know what you’re going to do after? What you are going to do before? I’m like, I’m just anxious. I’m sorry. I wanted to know.” If that makes any sense.
Gabe: [00:07:33] I certainly do that, too. You know like that constant time checking thing? That you don’t wanna be late?
Michelle: [00:07:37] Yes.
Gabe: [00:07:38] So what time is it? It’s four o’clock. OK. We have to be there at four thirty. What time is it? It’s four or one. OK. We have to be there at four thirty. What time is it? Dude ,it’s still four or one. But you know some of the things that are trapped in my head that I just can’t get out are just what a bad friend I was, or what a awful son I was, or what a terrible family member I was.
Michelle: [00:07:58] Yeah, yeah.
Gabe: [00:07:58] And sometimes I get mad at the people around me because I assume that they’re still mad at me because I’m still mad at me. Does stuff like that ever happen to you?
Michelle: [00:08:09] I mean, I still hold a lot of vendettas against my brother, which I owe to him. Right? Everyone says that I just dwell on the past. Even he says that I just, like, stay on the past. About when we’re very young. Me and my brother, and how mean he was to me and everything. We would see each other in the hallway of high school, and he wouldn’t even say hello to me. Yet, when he went off to college, and we were still using AIM, and he would instant message me, I would not reply. So he wouldn’t speak to me when he saw me in high school in the hallway, yet I stopped replying to him when he went off to college. And that was not OK. Which makes no sense to me. Yet, now we haven’t seen each other in a long time because he lives in another country. And when he comes back, I now have to be nice to him. Because I guess he’s a different person now? Yet, I never got any kind of apologies or anything like that, but I’m supposed to see that he’s a different person now. I don’t know why. And we’re supposed to be good friends now or something like that. I guess, just out of curiosity, why? I’m just wondering.
Gabe: [00:09:12] Is your brother a different person now?
Michelle: [00:09:14] Apparently, he’s a different person now. I don’t know. But-.
Gabe: [00:09:18] He had to leave the country to really get away with you.
Michelle: [00:09:20] I don’t know where it changed, but I’m supposed to treat him differently now. I’m supposed to forget everything from the past, all of the abuse from the past, and I’m supposed to like him now. I don’t know why.
Gabe: [00:09:31] I haven’t heard described any abuse. What you described is a couple of adult siblings that do not talk to each other.
Michelle: [00:09:36] No. Well okay.
Gabe: [00:09:37] What’s he mean to you? Did he call you names? Wait, did he pull your pigtails?
Michelle: [00:09:39] Well, he went to karate, and he would practice all of his karate moves on me. Constant wrestling, slamming my head into the ground until my nose bleeds. Calling me Michael instead of Michelle. Calling me a boy. That kind of went with Michael. Slamming the door in my face. Not letting me play with him. Like when we’re very little. Try to use his toys, not allowed to use his toys. Actually, when my mom and dad came home with me from the hospital when I was born, and they said, “Oh, Seth, here’s your sister.” He threw a stuffed animal at me. Yeah. I don’t know why they told me that story.
Gabe: [00:10:11] So he’s your older brother?
Michelle: [00:10:12] Yes.
Gabe: [00:10:12] Because you said that he threw a stuffed animal at you when you came home from the hospital and they told you that story and you’re putting this together with all of the other issues that you had with your brother growing up when you were kids?
Michelle: [00:10:27] Yeah and my like broke my necklace too, and then blamed me for it because that I was being annoying. So he had to push me and my necklace got in the way and it broke.
Gabe: [00:10:36] This is fabulous that you bring this up and here’s why. Because in my brother and sister’s world, I’m your older brother. I was the oldest. I was incredibly jealous of my brother. One time to get him in trouble when we were kids, I took syrup out of the pantry and I dumped it on the floor so that I could frame him for doing it. Knowing that he’d get in trouble. My mother just happened to be moving faster than normal that morning and watched me do it. And even though she saw me do it, I still tried to blame him for it. Absolutely, unequivocally, just hated having him as a brother. I was a top dog. I was the oldest. I used to live with Grandma. Then my mother remarried and nine months later I got this bastard in my house and I treated him like absolute garbage. Absolute garbage.
Michelle: [00:11:22] My favorite was when he would say, “You’re stupid.” And I would say, “No, you are stupid.” And then he would say, “Well, I’m smarter than you. So if I’m stupid, how dumb are you?
Gabe: [00:11:30] You know you’re an adult now, right?
Michelle: [00:11:31] I know. But obviously I can not get over this because I don’t understand why I’m supposed to like him now when I never received any kind of apology.
Gabe: [00:11:38] What kind of apology do you want when you were growing up?
Michelle: [00:11:41] Maybe just, “I’m sorry I was a horrible asshole to you, and ignored you for years and everything like that.”
Gabe: [00:11:47] Listen I never ever ever told my brother and sister, “I’m sorry. I was a horrible asshole to you.” Ever.
Michelle: [00:11:55] So that I don’t understand, why do I have to accept him back in my life?
Gabe: [00:11:59] I mean you don’t. But do you feel good right now?
Michelle: [00:12:01] I’m being told by everybody in my family that I need to accept him back in my life.
Gabe: [00:12:06] Okay. Well fuck them. Don’t. Just sit around and think about how pissed off and angry 8, 12, and 15 year old Michelle was.
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Gabe: [00:12:54] We’re back, still trying to say the word rumination as many times as humanly possible. You’re 30 years old, you’ve moved on with your life. But you’re still thinking about shit that happened to you when you were literally eight years old.
Michelle: [00:13:06] Ok, I see where you’re going with this.
Gabe: [00:13:08] How is that working out for you?
Michelle: [00:13:08] I don’t know. I don’t see him. I don’t have to speak to him. And then my mom says, “Have you spoken to your brother? Have you texted him? Have you spoken to him?” Yeah. “I don’t like that you guys don’t have a relationship. Why do my children hate each other?”
Gabe: [00:13:23] Well, I mean you articulated why y’all hate each.
Michelle: [00:13:25] I know, I’m just saying, that’s what she says.
Gabe: [00:13:27] I mean, has he done anything to you as an adult? Let let’s establish that like right out. In the time that you both became adult grown people, has he? Or has he been fine?
Michelle: [00:13:36] Well, when I graduated college he was working at kind of in the design agency kind of area. His boss, the creative director, he wanted to give me some advice. So he brought me in and he looks at my portfolio and his boss said to me, “I like your stuff. I want to give you some help. I wanted to offer you like a part time internship here, but your brother said no”.
Gabe: [00:13:54] Well but you don’t know that’s true.
Michelle: [00:13:57] His boss said it to me.
Gabe: [00:13:58] Yeah, but so what? People lie all the time.
Michelle: [00:14:00] No that’s 100 percent something my brother would do. Why would he lie and say I would offer you an internship here, but your brother said no? Because why would he invite me to come there and look at my portfolio and see all of my work and give me advice? Why would he offer to do that?
Gabe: [00:14:16] If he was gonna tell you no, why did he do it at all?
Michelle: [00:14:17] He was just giving me advice. And he just said that he wanted to offer me an internship, and that he would totally do that for me, but my brother said no.
Gabe: [00:14:25] So your brother was the boss of his boss?
Michelle: [00:14:27] My brother said do not hire her as an intern.
Gabe: [00:14:31] Then why did he talk to you at all?
Michelle: [00:14:32] Because he wanted to give me advice.
Gabe: [00:14:34] Did you ask your brother about this?
Michelle: [00:14:36] No I wouldn’t want to start a fight.
Gabe: [00:14:39] But, I kinda smell a rat here.
Michelle: [00:14:41] No I don’t smell a rat here. Obviously, Gabe, you don’t know my brother if you don’t believe this story.
Gabe: [00:14:46] It just doesn’t have the ring of truth.
Michelle: [00:14:47] Actually, it does very much ring true.
Gabe: [00:14:50] Okay. Let’s say that that is completely true. It’s 100 percent.
Michelle: [00:14:52] Okay.
Gabe: [00:14:52] Let’s say it rings true?
Michelle: [00:14:54] Say it rings true?  It’s 100 true.
Gabe: [00:14:55] Right, it’s 100 percent true. I agree. How long ago was that? How many years?
Michelle: [00:15:00] I believe I was 22. Okay so it was eight years ago.
Gabe: [00:15:04] Eight years? Everybody, Michelle Hammer is 30 years old.
Michelle: [00:15:04] You said adult life, Gabe. I was bringing up something in my adult life that’s it. So you know, it’s just so you know, you said something in my adult life.
Gabe: [00:15:14] I don’t know. I do not. You’re very upset about this.
Michelle: [00:15:17] He didn’t want me to work in the same place that he was working. You said adult life there you go or not.
Gabe: [00:15:25] But you keep repeating that.
Michelle: [00:15:26] Also, my brother lives in Colombia. Colombia the country, not the college. People have gotten that very mixed up before.
Gabe: [00:15:31] Did you throw your brother out of the country?
Michelle: [00:15:35] I’m glad he left.
Gabe: [00:15:35] Okay.
Michelle: [00:15:38] Meanwhile, you know who’s never been invited to Colombia to come see him?
Gabe: [00:15:40] I’m gonna go with you.
Michelle: [00:15:41] Yeah.
Gabe: [00:15:42] Do you think the reason you’ve never been invited is because you hate him?
Michelle: [00:15:48] He’s never invited me.
Gabe: [00:15:48] Because you hate him.
Michelle: [00:15:50] Well, he’s never invited me.
Gabe: [00:15:51] Because you hate him.
Michelle: [00:15:52] He’s never invited me.
Gabe: [00:15:53] Have you invited him to your house?
Michelle: [00:15:55] He’s been to my apartment. He’s been there.
Gabe: [00:15:58] You’re upset about this aren’t you?
Michelle: [00:15:58] Well, we’re dwelling on the past, Gabe.
Gabe: [00:16:00] You want to have a relationship with your brother, don’t you?
Michelle: [00:16:03] We do not get along.
Gabe: [00:16:05] I didn’t say do you get along. I said do you want to get along?
Michelle: [00:16:08] I want him to acknowledge what he’s done.
Gabe: [00:16:13] But why do you want him to acknowledge what he’s done?
Michelle: [00:16:16] Because he acts so innocent.
Gabe: [00:16:17] I’m being really serious.
Michelle: [00:16:19] Like look, he acts like he did nothing wrong. And then the past is of the past and I should ignore it.
Gabe: [00:16:24] Listen here’s what I’m saying, you think about the things that happened as a kid and as a young adult. A lot. And it brings it up. You are clearly unhappy about this and other members of your family know that you’re unhappy about this and try to fix it. Albeit apparently poorly. And I completely agree that all of these things are true. The question that I have for you this is the only question that I want you to answer. Do you want him to apologize because you want an apology? Or do you want him to apologize because you miss your brother and you want to mend the relationship?
Michelle: [00:16:56] Yes, I would like to mend the relationship.
Gabe: [00:16:58] Ok, well then say that. Say that the reason that you think about this so much is because you’re sad that you’re fighting with your brother.
Michelle: [00:17:05] And I’ve had friends who’ve met my brother on multiple occasions and have told me your brother’s a dick.
Gabe: [00:17:11] Yeah, he sounds like a real dick. Listen –
Michelle: [00:17:13] I’m just saying. I’m just saying.
Gabe: [00:17:14] I am not saying that he is not. Your brother’s a dick. I’m saying that you need to understand your own motivation because until you do I don’t think you’re gonna get over it. And I think a lot of our listeners have somebody in their life that they feel this way about. Whether it’s a friend, a family member, in some cases it’s like a parent or a guardian. It’s somebody who helped raised them or an authority figure and they’re all ruminating on this day in and day out. And if they don’t fix the relationship or get over the relationship it either a handcuffs them in the present like it’s handcuffed to you because you’re thinking about this right now and it is occupying way too much of your space for some dude who doesn’t even live in the country. And two, you just need to let it go and decide hey look this relationship isn’t for me and stop thinking about it. Frankly I don’t think any of this has anything to do with schizophrenia. I don’t think it does. It has everything to do with the fact that familiar relationships our family our friends, that’s the kind of stuff that fucks you up.
Michelle: [00:18:10] I think what it has to do with schizophrenia is the fact that I’ll think about it and I’ll just scrape into my head and it creeps in the deep dark depths of my head and I’ll just go around and around and around and around.
Gabe: [00:18:22] You want to know who my big brother is? You want to know who does that for me? You want to know who creeps into my head and just turns around and around and won’t let go ever? My biological father. The dude is dead. He is dead and I think about him the exact same way you think about your brother.
Michelle: [00:18:41] Really?
Gabe: [00:18:41] Yeah he’s dead. He can’t apologize. He can’t make up for it. It’s over. I won because I didn’t die of alcoholism.
Michelle: [00:18:49] I can get why.
Gabe: [00:18:50] Why did you hate me? That’s all I can think about, why did he hate me? And now you’re gonna do the exact same thing that I just did for you. You’re gonna be like, “Dude, he didn’t hate you he was a dick. He was an alcoholic. He abandoned his kid.”  This is the level that we torture ourselves.
Michelle: [00:19:02] I get that though. When a parent chooses alcohol over a kid. I can understand why the kid feels very upset.
Gabe: [00:19:10] Oh, look I don’t think he chose alcohol over me. I think he chose literally anything. I think he would have chosen like a blowing leaf over me.
Michelle: [00:19:18] Sometimes, a father is just a sperm.
Gabe: [00:19:20] Yeah. You know I call on my sperm donor.
Michelle: [00:19:22] Yeah. That’s sometimes just what a father is.
Gabe: [00:19:25] But this is the biggest rumination that I have because I wonder how did he know? On the day that I was born, that I was broken and worthless? How come he knew what nobody else can figure out?
Michelle: [00:19:37] He didn’t know that.
Gabe: [00:19:37] But, I mean –
Michelle: [00:19:38] He knew he was broken.
Gabe: [00:19:41] He didn’t know that. He had a good life. He was happy. He died fine.
Michelle: [00:19:44] No, he wasn’t happy, he was an alcoholic.
Gabe: [00:19:46] Yeah, a happy one.
Michelle: [00:19:47] No, there’s no happy alcoholics.
Gabe: [00:19:50] You know that whole self medicating thing it doesn’t play sometimes. I don’t think he was self medicating at all. I think he was just a guy that did whatever he wanted and said whatever he wanted and behaved however. He was just immature.
Michelle: [00:20:00] Then he wasn’t ready to be a dad.
Gabe: [00:20:03] I mean he was very young. My mother got pregnant in high school and he was also in high school.
Michelle: [00:20:07] So ok, that makes a little bit better.
Gabe: [00:20:08] But he never made up for it. I saw him on his deathbed. He was in hospice. He had jaundice, his eyes were yellow. They told me had less than two weeks to live. And I’m like, “Do you have anything to say to me?” And he was like, “It’s your mom’s fault.”
Michelle: [00:20:23] That’s what he said?
Gabe: [00:20:23] That’s pretty much what he said.
Michelle: [00:20:25] He’s a dick.
Gabe: [00:20:26] Oh, yeah.
Michelle: [00:20:26] Like he’s a dick. Your biological dad, he’s a dick.
Gabe: [00:20:29] But why can’t I get over it?
Michelle: [00:20:31] Because he’s your dad.
Gabe: [00:20:33] Yeah I got a dad. He’s alive. He lives in Tennessee. He’s cool.
Michelle: [00:20:35] Because he’s a part of you.
Gabe: [00:20:37] And I’m not trying to be crass here, but he’s just a guy who had sex with my mom. I appreciate the DNA and all
Michelle: [00:20:45] But if you can say that, then why can’t you get over it?
Gabe: [00:20:48] Exactly. And that’s why it ruminates because the intellectual part of Gabe Howard thinks –
Michelle: [00:20:54] So are you mad at your mom for boning this dude?
Gabe: [00:20:57] No. Well, I mean, I’m mad at my mom for giving me life but that’s like a whole ‘nother episode. I don’t understand why I got to be born and why I have to be born broken and why I’m here.
Michelle: [00:21:08] There’s a reason why you’re here and there’s a purpose here and it’s.
Gabe: [00:21:12] I don’t I don’t believe that.
Michelle: [00:21:13] Purpose. I believe that there’s always a reason why you’re here.
Gabe: [00:21:17] You believe in vape pens.
Michelle: [00:21:20] You believe in Diet Coke. Maybe there’s a universe of no diet coke.
Gabe: [00:21:23] That’s mean.
Michelle: [00:21:24] You’re not there. That’s near here.
Gabe: [00:21:27] That’s mean.
Michelle: [00:21:28] You’re here to drink Diet Coke.
Gabe: [00:21:30] Michelle, seriously. Seriously, none of this is serving either one of us so why do we do it?
Michelle: [00:21:36] Because it doesn’t go away.
Gabe: [00:21:39] And why doesn’t it go away?
Michelle: [00:21:40] I don’t know why it doesn’t go away.
Gabe: [00:21:42] Exactly. Judging by our emails a lot of our listeners have this problem where they just have this thing that they just can’t get over. And if they have learned nothing by listening to this show it’s that they’re not alone. A lot of people have these things that they just can’t get over and I think that anybody listening to me and you for the last 20 minutes would think wow these two need to get over that because it’s not serving them in any way.
Michelle: [00:22:05] Just a little bit. Don’t you think?
Gabe: [00:22:06] But we’re not letting it go. I hope that maybe they listen to us and they realize how unhelpful this is to just not get over and they think wow I don’t want to be like them and they let go of their anger and the things that they’re just ruminating on and can’t get over. But I suspect that a lot of people are gonna hang on to that rumination and I hope that they find some way to minimize it because at the end of the day Michelle we have minimized it. It is not impacting us the same way at our current age. That it probably did 10 years ago. Do you think you think about this less now than you did five years ago?
Michelle: [00:22:44] Oh definitely much less.
Gabe: [00:22:45] So there really is some wisdom in time heals all wounds.
Michelle: [00:22:49] And you know living in another country.
Gabe: [00:22:52] So I had to kill my biological father. You had to send your brother to another country and now suddenly we’re getting better. That’s fantastic. That is definitely actionable advice. Everybody is excited that they listen to this episode of a bipolar schizophrenic podcast because now they can beat their own ruminations with death and deportation.
Michelle: [00:23:15] Yes.
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Michelle: [00:23:45] He’s a dick!
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GABE HOWARD was formally diagnosed with bipolar and anxiety disorders after being committed to a psychiatric hospital in 2003. Now in recovery, Gabe is a prominent mental health activist and host of the award-winning Psych Central Show podcast. He is also an award-winning writer and speaker, traveling nationally to share the humorous, yet educational, story of his bipolar life. To work with Gabe, visit gabehoward.com.
  MICHELLE HAMMER was officially diagnosed with schizophrenia at age 22, but incorrectly diagnosed with bipolar disorder at 18. Michelle is an award-winning mental health advocate who has been featured in press all over the world. In May 2015, Michelle founded the company Schizophrenic.NYC, a mental health clothing line, with the mission of reducing stigma by starting conversations about mental health. She is a firm believer that confidence can get you anywhere. To work with Michelle, visit Schizophrenic.NYC.
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