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#illiad makes you a man in fgo
raliciel · 5 months
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Sir Hektor the Excellent, the fantastic, the absolute, the number one, the holy, the wonderful, the great, the greater, the greatest, the awesome, the outstanding, the most wonderful, the hero, the pure, the best, the good, the goodest, the one and only, the special, the baddest, the first, the outstanding. the miracle
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cyborg-squid · 3 years
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So, I was doing a bit of thinking about FGO’s Odysseus, and I was thinking that “He seems really different from the one I read about in high school, I had this image of him as this very rugged, cunning with a side of cruel, womanizer, type of guy. And while I don’t dislike this FGO version, it seems kind of out of the blue...”
And then it struck me. (Disclaimer: This is just speculation, i’m not a classicist, I haven’t fully read either epic, and LB5 hasn’t arrived on NA yet) FGO’s Odysseus feels a lot more like Odysseus from The Illiad as opposed to the one from The Odyssey. The two biggest contributors to this are, in my opinion, his Final Ascension and his Noble Phantasm. (His classing kinda has something to do with it, I feel he’d also make a good Archer cause of that impossible shot he made at the end of the epic, (Assassin Odysseus cause of the whole Nobody+sheep trick could be funny too) but Rider is an alright fit no matter which source you pull more from.)
Just visually, his design and FA, this does not look like a man who spent a decade or more lost at sea. But you know what his FA does look like? A hero of the Trojan War. Just look at! You could plaster the words “GREECE WANTS YOU!” at the bottom in block letters and it would make a brilliant propaganda recruitment poster. He’s a little worn out, you can see scratches on the Horse and his armor, there’s some light bloodstains, but he still very much looks the figure of a dashing war hero. It’s also interesting cause he seems to be one of the few ‘heroes’, from either side, to actually survive the war. 
The Trojan Horse itself, manifesting as ‘Colossal Trojan Horse of Obliteration’ also seems to reinforce this idea of an Illiad Odysseus. Even just looking at it’s name and how it’s framed, less as a clever sneak attack that lead to mass slaughter, and more as an ultimate war-ending strategy. It’s telling that this, as well as Athena’s armor Aegis, is his Noble Phantasm, while I imagine that an Odyssey version of him might have a Noble Phantasm like Hercules’ God Hand, one that is a conglomeration/representation of his long voyage and many challenges he faced. Something like ‘Twelve Ring Shot’, named for the impossible shot (and subsequent murders) he made through the axe hafts to prove his identity, could also work, showing off both his martial skill and also being the bloody ‘end’ to his long journey.
Also, FGO Odysseus has Luck EX?! I can see Illiad Odysseus having that based on his Affection Of The Gods and all the help he got from them, but I definitely wouldn’t consider Odyssey Odysseus to be ‘lucky’ by any stretch of the word!
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