#iwtv writers

[nalyra-dreaming]

WAIT OMG! we never actually hear show louis tell lestat that he loves him?? i know i probably sound stupid but i don’t think that’s something i’ve ever truly picked up on until now. i was rewatching some loustat scenes and got extra sad over lestat constantly feeling like he’s rejected and not loved, then it dawned on me that i don’t think louis said it or even showed it?? do you think that type of declaration will happen in future seasons?

this isn’t louis hate btw, i love them both so much

I love them both, too, and yes, ultimately I think we will get it^^.

…. okay this is a bit of a wasp‘s nest, so... fair warning^^.

Quite a while ago the IWTV writer's room (yes they are, or at least were active on Twitter) answered some questions.

One of them was this:

This... produced quite the backlash and made some huge waves around the fandom.

The thing is, Louis withholding and using that withholding (something the writers called "weaponization of language" here is canon behavior in the books, and something Louis in later books apologizes for.

Of course it is all a bit more difficult than the simplified (tweet)answer here. There is for example the added complexity of Louis losing Paul right after saying these words (something that, given this canon behavior does soften (for lack of a better word) said behavior, and as such was very much done on purpose, imho).

In the clip from the "Murder Mansion" we have already seen Armand commenting on the "withholding" as well, so I fully expect the show (aka the writers here) to keep this canon characterization, as they are obviously building on it.

It is something I also touched on the "intimacy post" a while back. Because for Louis and Lestat, in their good times, when they had sex regularly and bit each other during sex... Louis' inability to say the words probably meant next to nothing. Lestat would have been able to read it in the blood.

Only later, when the eating disorder set that fatal downwards spiral off (again, it bears repeating, this is not assigning blame, but it is an important aspect that started with the choice to not eat human anymore) the lack of the said words started to actually weigh on them.

So yes, eventually, the lack of the words was probably very much grating.

And for Louis it might have actually made it impossible to speak them.

Because, from experience^^, when you mean something it can be very, very hard to say that thing, especially if you know you maybe should have said the words earlier, but didn't - for valid reasons - but now... now they just seem unable to pass your tongue.

I think that is something that happened to Louis there. And Lestat probably didn't really feel rejected at first, but more frustrated, then estranged somewhat, mixed with concern, and then anger, and then and then and then... because he loves Louis.

And Louis loves Lestat.

Very much. Too much, maybe. Too much, maybe, for these words.

(Which is also why he and Lestat were both able to so easily say them during murder night, because then... then they were not meant.)

In the books he eventually does put it into words.

… I love you with my whole soul, and I will always love you, [..] you are my life. I have hated you for that and love you now so much that you’ve been my instructor in loving.

...this is from Blood Communion. Since we already know they are taking from that book.... :)

[suikamelon6]

"I ain't never gon' have a family of my own, am I? No sons, no daughters."

"I'm your family, Louis."

When both the lines and delivery are so memorable.

[cbrownjc]

So yeah, been waiting for news about this. If a deal isn’t made in the next few weeks, the writers are going to go on strike. Sometime after May 1st its looking like, unless negotiations are going good and they push the deadline back even longer. 

However, if a strike does happen, what this means is that tv shows and movies that are in pre-production will be halted. No filming will begin for them at all until the strike is over.

For tv shows and movies that have already begun filming, or are about to start, they will still probably start filming or continue filming, if all the scripts for the tv show in question are done being written for the season. 

WRT tv shows, if all the scripts for the season aren’t done being written yet though, they’ll just film what they have and then production will stop.

For shows that do have all their scripts done and written for the season, this just means that during production there won’t be any rewriting going on. They have to film using the scripts that are already written. Which can be a tricky thing (many movies in particular will have rewrites going on during even the middle of a scene being filmed for example).

The last writers strike f-ed up a lot of shows last time. (The most infamous show it affected was Heroes.) 

And since, when it comes to tv shows, I mostly focus on Interview with the Vampire right now, then, if I had to guess just going off of Season 1, I’d say they probably have all the scripts written and done for season 2. Or, if not, they will be busy finishing them all up right now before whatever final strike deadline might be set. Because Rolin Jones and the other writers wont be able to do anymore rewrites they might want to do if any strike does actually happen. 

So yeah. Production and filming for Season 2 for IWTV won’t stop IMO, thank goodness. But they are for sure tightening up any loose things they feel are in any of the scripts at the moment, I’d bet.

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Just thought it was interesting to see and learn more about the writers for Season 1 of AMC's Interview with the Vampire. Thanks to a_savagegarden on twitter for compiling the information. One of my favorite accounts on twitter. More tweets under the cut

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This next one is interesting and appears to say that Louis didn't eat his nephew

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[blackgirltalkfangs]

Welcome back IWTV Writers 🩸❤️‍🔥🩸

[thkmadame]

[emozionidinchiostro]

During yesterday SAG-AFTRA press conference a journalist asked:

“What do you say to the fans and consumers that aren’t interested in the strike and just want to see their favourite tv show?” (or something along these lines I don’t recall the precise words)

And Fran Drescher responded with:

“Well, what makes you think they are not interested in what’s happening here? I think that they have an allegiance to all of us because we bring joy and entertainment to their lives […] so I don’t think that your assumption that they don’t really care about anything but being entertained over the summer is the bottom line” and proceded to say how this corporate greed can extend to all fields of works and how we understand that

AND WE DO UNDERSTAND AND WE DO CARE!

I love her so much for this! It makes me sooo mad when the assumption is that, as a consumer, I don’t care about people who make something that I love, because I do, we do! I know for a fact that people in fandoms care so much about the people involved in the creation of every aspect of their favourite piece of media.

Stop infantilising the audience! We are not whiny children and we understand the complexities of this moment. I am sooo happy that she recognised that.

[nalyra-dreaming]

Hiii I just wondered your take on the end of episode 5? I do wonder how much Sam didn't like that being in the episode? I'm kinda middle of the road I guess but i would prefer the argument and drop with Loustat not being in the episode. I heard the iwtv podcast last night with naomi and the writer of that ep was on and she was just laughing how the rest of the writers found out about that scene. I don't think they put any thought really into that. She said she'd written into plays but never tv series. Maybe it shows, idk :/

Hey nonny,

so I have written a lot about this before, here is a summary post. I would suggest to read especially the linked post re the intent of it and the two linked posts by Linda Codega on Gizmodo. There's really a lot going on!

And I mean... please trust me that those writers put all the thought into those scenes. Just take a look at the meta commentary they put into it with the books Louis reads that fit with what the scene shows us. It's insane.

But if they can tell what they thought and put into it and why in a podcast that... quite frankly does only focus on first time watchers (and not on the book fans with the necessary background knowledge...)... mhhhhh. That is a different story 😅 (Not even the actors could tell a lot in the podcast!)

The podcast should not be your source for truth. Sorry to say it so clearly but there are ... quite a few things in reaction and "takes" in it which simply will not hold, and which made a lot of the book fans wince when we heard them.

And a lot of the writers are playwrights and that definitely shows. The show is quite ingenious because of it, which makes it far from easy. But you will only see the full extent of it after season 2 (earliest, if my gut feeling is right only after season 3!), and this show has more layers than a darn tree cake.

And as per Sam... there was this, I think it was the Cast Diaries? and in interviews? where Sam and Jacob spoke about feeling a bit bad filming that scene, and that Sam struggled that day he had to drag Jacob along the driveway? But they also spoke about how cool it was to film the fight itself.

Honestly? That struggling to film this only speaks for Sam, imho, but he also said that he got why when they talked about it all and... it's a good thing to keep that in mind.

This is a play, written by playwrights, split in half (at least).

You will only be able to judge anything we've seen so far when the play is done.

[loumands]

NOT THE UNNAMED IWTV WRITERS SAYING SO HORNY THINGS ABOUT THAT OLD MAN THAT THE PR FIRM CENSORED THEM

[cbrownjc]

So SAG approved its Strike Authorization. About 98% of SAG members voted "Yes."

This means that if a deal between SAG and the AMPTP isn't reached by midnight on June 30, 2023, all of SAG will go on strike. Which means every actor in Hollywood will be on strike.

To act in a US-based and funded production, you have to be a member of SAG, with no exceptions. So if SAG goes on strike, every US-based funder production that is currently shooting is going to have to shut down indefinitely until at least the SAG strike is over.

Unlike with the WGA strike, there is no way productions can continue without the actors. (Not even the best Deep Fakes can be created in time to do it.) So SAG striking would for sure mean a 100% shutdown of the whole entertainment industry.

And yes, for my IWTV peeps, that means the production of Season 2 would have to stop and shut down, even though the shoot is taking place overseas. (FWIU, Season 2 isn't set to finish filming until the end of August). Sam, Jacob, Assad, Eric, and all the rest of the actors on the show would be considered to be crossing the picket line if they still went to the set to film if a strike is called for.

So June 30th is the date to look for. Because, like the WGA, I don't think SAG is going to waste any time to start their strike if a deal with the AMPTP isn't met.