#malekith after Loki pulls a 180

[worstloki]

Loki: literally tries to kill himself

Odin: son how could u betray me like this

Loki: literally back from the dead after trying to kill himself

Thor:

[liver-of-prometheus]

a conversation I had tonight: a thread

me: thor didn't evolve character-wise, he pulled a 180. that's not how you write good characters

Jay: Fair

I'm still kinda pissed about the fact that Val chained him up tho

me: yup

it was dumb

Jay: He took on like 6 dudes alone last movie

me: fat thor was bad

Jay: Yeah I didn't personally like fat thor

me: credit where credit's due, the russo's did the best they could with the shitty set-up taika gave them

but Loki

the literal magic man

Jay: Yep

Me: who has the tesseract

and can fucking teleport and shit

attacks thanos with a butter knife?

you had one job

just the one

Jay: I actually laughed at that scene when I saw it in theaters

I thought it was a fakeout

Me: i cried, then realized that realistically there was no way he's dead

Jay: And thanos was boutta get whooped

Me: feige said he wasn't

i thought so too

Jay: But then I realized

Me:but man, i thought loki just ran

i thought loki handed over the stone and straight up dipped back to sakaar or smth

Jay: Yeah

Sounds like a loki thing to do

Loki knows what's too much

He isn't stupid

Me: and thanos' whole balance thing, leave a dead clone, dip to space

never see earth again

live life chaotically

technically though, he aint dead

Jay: Yeah

That was the only redeeming thing

Me: the Loki series starts after his little "bye" moment in eg

therefore loki created a whole new time stream

he's still out there

and doing norns know what

Jay: So I loved the concept of Infinity war

The villain wins and all that

Me: yup

Jay: But I was so pissed

Me: i still cried at the deaths tho

loki's death made me actually angry

Jay: I couldn't proper enjoy the movie

Me: i was sad, and angry the whole time

i thought for sure loki'd be back in endgame

he was there

Jay: Yep

Me: for 30 seconds

fuck that

Jay: But not how I hoped

Yeah

Me: i wanted loki to be one of the stones and snap thanos' neck or freeze him to death

like the little snake story

but nope!

Jay: I was hoping

That if he did die

Me: "loki's dead, he ain't comin back"

russos did you even WATCH thor 1

Jay: He would make some deals with his sister the goddess of death

Me: if he died he'd have turned jotun blue

Jay: And pop out of a portal with an undead army

Me: also, I have a personal idea that he's not allowed to die

bc if he dies, he ends up in an afterlife

and he's already died twice then came back

first time: hel

second: valhalla

he annoyed both

to the point he's not allowed back

Jay:Lol

Me: so he is NOT ALLOWED to die

Jay: Sounds fair to me

Me: i want a character like that

it sounds like a very loki or deadpool thing to me

Jay: Accidental lich

Me: yeah

Jay: That would be great

And honestly though if he had a better and more meaningful true to his personality death

I would've still been sad

Me: yup

Jay: But it would be better than snapped like a fucking flimsy twig

Like even if the snap at the end got him That's better than what happened

Me: he's survived the literal void of space, torture, mind fuckery, being thrown around like a wet fish by the hulk, FUCKING IMPALED, tazed for fucking hours, was a frost jotun in the middle of an inferno, and got pulled out of a plane, and had his own knife thrown at him by his sister he didn't know he had

a snapped neck would've been nothing

he had so many tools at his disposal as well

Jay: I refuse to believe

Me: so many illusions or deceptive techniques

anything but goddamn butter knives

as much as I like them

they

were not

practical

and he knew it

Jay: It'd be great if the loki series ended with old him meeting new him

And everyone is like Oh shit ur alive

Me: and series Loki going "you tried to kill the titan" "yes.." "with a dagger" "yes" "i thought I was smarter"

"apparently not though because you got your neck snapped as the ship burned around you, you imbecile"

Jay: And another thing

About tdw

Me: ?

the only miss, was jane, and malekith

nearly everything else was perfect

Jay: I was pissed that loki wasn't allowed to go to friggas funeral

Me: I KNOW

EVEN CRIMINALS HAVE RIGHTS

HE SHOULD'VE AT LEAST BEEN ALLOWED TO WATCH FROM A BALCONY OR SOMETHING

LIKE SAY, WITH A GUARD

Jay: Ugh just chain him up while he's there but she's the only one Who loved him

He got fucked over

Me: put him on a balcony, with two gaurds, chained up, hell use the muzzle

idc

he should've gotten to grieve

Jay: IT WAS SO HEARTLESS HOW HE FOUND OUT

Me: and frigga, is actually manipulative

she fucking gaslighted him

odin would rant and shout, she'd calm him down and convince him things were fine

they weren't fine

Jay: fair fair

Me: "i tried to make him tell you"

fuck off lady

you didn't try hard enough

"you're our son" "make him proud"

she should've been saying she'd give him advice on ruling, and help him to be a good king while odin slept

everything she did made it worse

Jay: Everyone sucked in his family

And I gotta wonder if hela was really power hungry and shit or if Odin just had enough and did the same shit to both of them

Me: Honestly, he should've run away

the only person that cared for him in any meaningful way was Hogun

Even indifference is better than faked love or scorn

Hogun was the only person who didn't a: brush off Loki's abuse, b: convince him it was fine, c: mock or hate him, d: deny Loki's abuse existed bc "they're our friends, how could they hate you?" "your friends Thor, your friends."

Jay: Also

I may be wrong but is there evidence that baby loki was abandoned for dead

Me: he was left in a temple you say?

hmmm

ritual perhaps?

Jay: Odin just said M I N E

Me: or is it simply the fact that Ymir was the only jotun who was great in strength, size, and power

every other jotun gets two

Loki got strength and power

that is the mythology

and maybe loki was crying bc he knew his mom died, and was crying for her

he could've just been hungry

but no one would ever know

bc ODIN STOLE AN INNOCENT CHILD

Jay: E x a c t l y