Lucifer + Kid!Reader
A/n: Frist time writing any Hazbin/Helluva posts sorry if these first few posts are a bit rough. Also, this is platonic. Hopefully, that is obvious. I mentioned it in my last post but I had to delete my past Tumblr account so this is just a repost sorry ^^'
-You were a child sinner. The specifics of your death or how you got adopted aren't that important. Just you a child and Lucifer's kid.
-Man really regret calling the people who say the family you choose is better losers now lol.
-He sees you just as much of his kid as Charlie. Which comes with all the love we see in the show.
-Alastor 100% tries the pull the same you can even call me dad shit with you. And you are a child so there's an even higher chance of you falling for it.
-The only way you would see Alastor is if you visit the hotel to see your big sis.
-Spoils the shit out of you. Your wish is his command.
-Ducks.
-I really hope you like ducks because you have at least 100 of them.
-Not overprotective per se. Just… cautious of who you're around. It is hell after all. Just because you got sent here doesn't mean you are any were close to half of the people there in sinfulness. I mean we see the rules to get into heaven are a bit fuzzy.
-Many visits from Ozzie and Bee. And the other sins who are technically your uncles and maybe aunts if they don't suck. (In other words, Mammon is banned from seeing you.)
-Like I said doesn't matter how you died. But if you were murdered when the killer dies they will go to "double hell." Or whatever the fuck you want to call it
-They also get to put it simply lol.
-Over hell's greatest dad.
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God, getting your accounts banned this much has gotta suck, but it's also just a little bit funny that Tumblr keeps trying to nuke you, and every time you stick you head up out of your hidey hole a little while later like "Hello? Is everyone still here? Yes? Okay, back to our regularly scheduled programming."
FR MAN i feel like a prairie dog at this point 😭
honestly getting my account full on deleted has been the worst. i still had access to the blog that just got flagged, but deleted? you lose everything. every ask in my inbox, every post i ever made, and post i ever reblogged, and i can't even repost art/writing because it's just straight up gone.
sure i have most things saved, but i'm not going through the tremendous effort of reposting everything from my files and trying to remember the context + captions i had on the post. it was so much easier when i was just screencapping things from the flagged blog to post on the new one.
LUCKILY i do have most art posted to my Ko-Fi, save for the NSFW art. and i sure as hell am going to back up literally everything now.
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Hello Apologies, here's some of my screenshots debunking some of Tansys claims. As you can see, I don't know how to use Tumblr nor stash so let me know if this doesn't work. Also tried to keep everything together and in order... These are the screenshots about Mehrunes believing that it was 12$ and not 8$, this is the confirmation that it is 8$ (the 9$ / 8,25$ one was another commission made by the same person, they sent 8$ to me which was 7 something that I receieved for mehrunes commission.) I will attach the screenshots where I approve the payments sent, as you can see I typed 11$ or 8$, never a 12$.
https://sta.sh/02doz80pro5f https://sta.sh/01mwp9rnrnfp https://sta.sh/0q6nhirvs19 https://sta.sh/01o9m6okvaof https://sta.sh/02cepm42xqr4
This was me asking for the vouchers discord so I can give mehrunes the refund and stop talking to then overall, as I did not want to keep continuing this. This is when mehrunes lied and states that I claimed I was gonna do the refund. I don't have much trust with the voucher either because of proof I'll show next but here's the proof that I wanted to end it altogether and just move on and give the refund, while mehrunes claims otherwise.
https://sta.sh/028bsxfz40n0
They're banned / deleted their account so I can't get their responses, apologies
https://sta.sh/0bmqg3f4jmi https://sta.sh/01hps06vfowm
I even explicitly said I don't want to be involved anymore nor do I want the voucher to, it's my fault that I sent the money but I'll show why I did soon. I said I never wanted the drama to continue and I sent the money due to the pressure when I found out something. Hot Takes, the account in question, posted a toyhouse purge that consisted of mehrunes and never once specified that it was not mehrunes posting, but instead the voucher. They also reposted a commission.
https://sta.sh/01k1y7o7h6i5 https://sta.sh/01aemuhesm9n
It looked like ban evading and the staff even agreed that it was at the time, although their account is unbanned because I felt horrible if they really were someone who got caught up in the mess and they were banned for no reason, I actively helped them get unbanned- despite what mehrunes is claiming. I wasn't even the one who reported the account. When I said this they tried pressing for who did report it, which I refused to say.
https://sta.sh/03dqual2830 https://sta.sh/028jm17sifjp
However, the voucher kinda acts like mehrunes. When the voucher said they would still want to commission me for mehrunes, they're also saying I'm black listed? Which, is what Mehrunes states that they're no longer commissioning me. I feel played with and confused the whole time and overall stressed when talking to them,,,
https://sta.sh/01qwk10c6sfi
I've also been told that tansy does have a paypal, which makes Me more inclined and nervous, however I will not be accusing anything and will wait until my suspicions are confirmed. I'm told I'm being a shitty person for speaking up about this after dealing with this for months. I'm officially done with this situation and I don't want to deal with Mehrunes and the Voucher after they both blocked me. I'm tired of being told my problems are less and not important because they wanted a commission. I have been trying to end this for months, and now I'm done. I've seen some of the concerning behaviour people have brought up to me about mehrunes, and I'm officially happy to announce that I will no longer be tolerating them and the situation, and I'm going to move on. HOPEFULLY I won't make anymore posts. I'm tired of mehrunes spreading misinformation about me and the situation, ergo I hope this helps. If you have any further questions, please contact me at MiseryXCPR#6969 via Discord or my amino profile If you want anymore proof about this.
I know tansy might comment or call me a scammer. But it's been three ~ almost four months now, I have tried refunding you several ways and have tried to give you many different options to get the refund and / or the art, but you rejected them all. I've tried to work with you, but now since you and the Voucher have blocked me I'm taking this as an opportunity to finally move on from this. I learned from my mistakes in the process, and now commissions and commissioners have never been so happy because I finally found a way to improve off it, I use trello to actively keep myself organized and commissioners updated and I love it, but I also learned to have a Terms of Service or a back up plan to never have this situation happen again, and I learned to not take it like I had and let you walk all over me (ex. Me offering the 20$ voucher instead of the original 8$, trying to give you art instead of focusing on my situation, letting you black mail me etc)
I ask you to please just move on too... I can't deal with this anymore and it's just mentally draining and incredibly stressful. I completely own up to my mistakes and what I did, I apologized and I'll do it again happily, and I've apologized to you so many times and took the abuse you threw at me for months because I felt like I deserved it, due to my horrific mental state I was in- which I had told you several times about that you continously ignored and got annoyed over when I asked about clarification because my mind was everywhere and not in the right place. I hope to move on from this at last and cut communication off permanently.
Thank you everyone for reading, you made me feel so much less alone than I felt. I feel so much better and less stressed out, and I feel a large weight come off me. I couldn't thank everyone enough for it. Again, if you want more proof please message me and I'll do my best to supply it, but at this point I rather leave this once and for all and let it go.
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The Sysclubbers were just a group of fans who made fun of all the people who couldn't understand Syscourse. It was just supposed to be a fun club to have, but people took it too seriously. Eventually, after a whole lot of drama, the Sysclubbers became one of the most prevalent clubs on Tumblr. People made their own Syscourse-related art, poetry, stories, and fanfiction in order to be a part of the Sysclubbers.
I was once a part of this club. I'll never be a part of it again. It all started with a post on the forums. I was bored, and it was late, so I thought it'd be fun to start a club. The post said, "Let's make fun of people who can't understand Syscourse." And, well, a club was born. There were about five of us in the club. We would take screenshots of posts on the forums and photoshop them so they looked like they were saying something else. It was fun and it was harmless.
As more and more people joined, it turned from harmless fun to mean offensive posts. People would post screenshots of posts on the forums and just change the words. People would photoshop entire posts and repost them. Others made comics about the club. It got so bad that the mods had to delete all the posts and comics. And then I quit the club. I just couldn't take it anymore.
It was fun and harmless when we were just photoshopping a few words. But it became more than that. It spiraled out of control. Everyone started posting in this dark cloud of hate. People were getting banned left and right.
I'm glad I quit the club. But I still have to deal with the people who still post in it. It's just a club, right? Why do I have to feel so much pain from it? I have enough trouble dealing with real problems in my life without adding another one to it.
Fuck you, club. You are not my friend.
I'm done with you. There, I said it.
You are one of many enemies I will make in my life.
I will defeat you.
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so I was goin through your posts (for mostly innocent reasons, prommy!) and i saw one where you said that running a blog was hard after the purge, and... do you think we just got used to the now, or that tumblr culture did change and it was too subtle for me to notice..?
Aside from the obvious ‘lmao there’s nothing innocent at all about my blog’, this is actually a super interesting topic Anon. If you have been on Tumblr for that long then I’m honestly surprised that you haven’t really noticed any changes. I know I’m a nsfw creator, but still I find that crazy lol.
Tumblr is super different now than how it was before the purge. The easiest way to explain it I guess is that everyone was on Tumblr. Nsfw and sfw artists, writers, screenshot takers, basically all of the fandom creators were on Tumblr. Nowadays most nsfw artists are on twitter, but because Twitter is terrible for writers, there’s not really one main place for fandom anymore. Most people moved to Twitter so they could look at art, and use Tumblr much less than before, so any writers or other creators that stayed here don’t get nearly as much traction as they used to. I’m sure you’ve seen all the posts complaining about no one liking or reblogging posts, it wasn’t perfect before the purge, but it was certainly much better.
The FFXV fandom in particular completely died after the purge. So much good art was deleted and so many people were so pissed off that they abandoned ship completely, some not even moving over to Twitter or anything, all of that stuff was just gone. Fandoms that have sprung up after the purge (like DMC as an example), or fandoms that the filter doesn’t affect as much (There’s still a bunch of Mass Effect alien smut for example) have managed to do decent-ish, but really haven’t had the sort of traction that they would have done before.
It’s unfortunate because the Tumblr purge should have been the catalyst for someone to try and make a new social media site, like when the Ao3 sprung up after all the fanfic site purges, but unfortunately this hasn’t happened. There’s no one place for fandom anymore.
Writers are so lucky that we have the Ao3, so at least we can confidently know that all of our work is safe. Artists don’t really have that though. If Tumblr can go ahead and just delete all of your art, then there’s no reason that Twitter, or DA or any other site won’t just go ahead and do it too. There were a lot of people that figured it wasn’t worth their time to repost stuff on another platform, or spend the time building up a following again, and I don’t blame them for it.
Tumblr has somehow managed to build itself back up a little bit after the purge, and that surprises me a lot, but I don’t think it will ever get back to how it was before. Additionally, with Tumblr also banning all of those ‘nsfw’ tags on iOS (which sure you can blame Apple, but there are ways that Tumblr can fit within those rules without having to be so drastic.) The site has really shown all of us nsfw creators that we’re not welcome here anymore, but for now there’s nothing better so here I am lol.
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Tips & tools
Some web security (don’t get ray-ban hacked or worse)
Secure apps
Art related
Tips on commissioning an artist
Reblog vs repost, FAQ why reposting is bad
What to do when your art got stolen
Sites with images safe to use for moodboards etc
Tumblr
Tumblr dashboards
How to tumblr for newcomers
Find untagged posts
Tumblr stats! How many notes total you have, the most popular posts etc.
Mass tag replacer
Posts stuck in your queue or disappearing drafts?
Tumblr tone indictors
Fandom dictionary
More under the cut: Mass Post Editor, how to find all your tags, plus some more tricks
Mass tag replacer
You can find all your posts tagged with specific tag or tags, replace those tags or delete them, see the count of posts with them.
Tip: click on the filter button for additional options like including queue/drafts, case sensitive search or deleting tags:
Click on “help” for more tricks, e.g. appending or ordering tags. You can also easily fix a typo with this (find tag ‘atr’, replace with ‘art’).
Warn: it breaks sometimes lmao (at least it did when I tried to change tags on over 4k posts at once. Still managed to do it with a few tries)
Bonus: look at this beautiful loading animation from this site
Mass Post Editor
For batch deleting posts and editing tags:
You can also see all the tags which you used in your blog here. Details below.
Find your tags
1) Most common tags - go to your blog’s archive (FYI you can see someone else’s tag counts in their blog’s archive as well)
2) All tags - see prompts while adding tags in Mass Post Editor:
3) All tags - extract from html in Mass Post Editor:
Explanation: for you to be able to see the prompts in the previous step they have to be fetched from the server. Tumblr dot com just injects all of your tags to the html sent to your browser, then searches this tag list while you’re typing in the box above. You can extract them from there.
Short version: search for ‘tags_to_add’ in html
Longer version:
Hit F12 (or whatever will open devtools in your browser)
Open Elements tab
Search for ‘tags_to_add’ (ctrl+f)
Right-click to copy the element
Paste to your preferred text editor, delete noise and you’re done 🎉
Bonus: turn this messy list into an excel sheet with filters and sorting
Goal:
Let’s get to it.
1) Paste the html element with tags to a preferred editor (I’ll use the simplest Windows editor for your convenience but anything with the option to replace characters works)
2) Delete everything except the list of tags (beginning and end)
3) Replace the delimiter (the thingy that separates the tags) for something that is not present inside the tags, I’ll choose #. Hit ctrl+h or choose Edit->Replace in the menu:
4) Convert unicode hexes to ascii e.g. \x3e to > (to have :> instead of :\x3e). I used this online converter
5) Copy the converted text and paste to a cell in excel. Then go by this:
Data->Text to columns
Delimited -> Next
Other: # -> Finish
Select the whole row and copy
Paste options: Transpose to another cell, e.g. A2
Delete the first row and write ‘Tags’ as the header in A1
Data->Filter for the column with tags
For the record - I’m not an excel expert so this may be a roundabout way.
The end 😬 Now you can sort, filter or whatever you like.
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Answer: I feel uncomfortable with people following Fallan because it makes me feel bad and stir up horrible memories. I admit I wasn’t thinking or considering the different opinions or reactions people will have, but I was trying to keep myself sane by not following the same people who follow her. I acknowledged that what I did is wrong and I didn’t think of the consequences; I take full responsibility for it and I’m sorry.
Answer: While I was jealous, I couldn’t control my destructive behavior before. It wasn’t intentional, I should've gotten help before but no one irl was there around me unlike today, and I made her feel this way, so I acknowledge and apologize for it.
Answer: I understand this is a personal problem, and I apologize for bringing it up. But, please keep in mind that we are allowed to vent to the people who annoy us or make us feel bad. My entire personality is not venting about you; I have my own relationship to focus on now and he noticed that I’ve been venting less and less about you. The part that triggers it mostly happens whenever I receive death threats from the people who claim as your friends. It started with one message after our last message three years ago, but it kept on occurring so many times that how could I not panic as well? How can I not know if these anonymous death threats are from her or from her mutuals? I’ve never even sent any death threats like these to her, from what I remembered.
Trigger warning: death threats
Answer: I was banned from specord. I admit I went back to instagram and made a safe space for myself. People are allowed to talk negatively about the people they dislike or the people who hurt them, but I talk about these things privately. A lot of people discuss similar situations such as these, even in public servers, yet why was it not mentioned in the post? Speaking of, that screenshot you got, claiming from a public server, is actually a private friend group server. I believe that was misunderstood, and I couldn’t blame you for misunderstanding, but please have an open mind that I would be banned from a public server if I ever did such things.
Answer: I was advised to tell you to find people who don’t know me so they can easily believe you and defend you to what you do. I understand you want your friends back, but you can’t control people from coming back to you. Isn’t this the lesson you want me to learn? I was punched in the gut when I learned this. Maybe it’s time to accept it and move on. I lost people, you lost people too. It’s part of life, and it’s something we have to accept. It’s weird that this came from me, but this is the lesson you want me to learn. I’m sorry you couldn’t get them back, and I acknowledge that. But, take a leaf from your book as well.
Answer: As I said earlier, I admit and acknowledged that I was like that before. I acknowledged that behavior and realized it was wrong. My emotions got the best of me, preventing me to think clearly and making the right decisions to behave nicely.
Answer: As I said earlier, it wasn’t my intention to do it. I acknowledged what I did was wrong and I take full responsibility for it. It wasn’t my intention, things just went out of hand and I apologize for it, I genuinely do.
Answer: While I don’t have proofs that I actually committed suicide irl, it was never my intention to suicide bait her. I acknowledged what I did wrong and take full responsibility of it. But, I want to make it clear that I did do it more than once irl.
Answer: I’m not sure about her but I have a lot of screenshots of death threats that have been going on for these past years and still going on from her friends. I’ve been in this situation of threats, blocks, etc. While it’s easy to block and move on, I can’t control these people for sending such threats time and time again. If you don’t believe me when I say it’s from her friends, here’s just a few of the many examples of threats I’ve gotten not just on discord but from other social media as well so there’s nowhere I can go A recent one being after getting a commission gift someone gave me and claiming to take and repost it. The artist was of course upset about this since it was a gift. It’s also quite clear that sometimes it’s even the same mutual sending these. It’s gotten to the point where they even mention attacking me in irl. So, I ask, why shouldn’t I feel paranoid about all these threats?
Trigger warning: death threats
Answer: I acknowledged that what I did was wrong, and again, it wasn’t my intention. I take full responsibilities that I couldn’t control myself. However, I can’t quite graph who’s the “they hated how I was popular”. I remember her mentioning she was popular on tumblr, and she seems quite confident about it so I assumed she was completely okay with people and myself mentioning that. I apologize, but I wasn’t really that annoyed. They were quite popular. I might have expressed it wrongly, and I take full responsibility for that. I’m sorry.
Answer: I could’ve been a better friend too. I could’ve been not jealous. I could’ve been less destructive. I could’ve controlled my emotions. I could’ve done something better, and not the worst things, but that was all in the past. I stopped thinking about my friendship with her last years, and it’s been consistent even with some good changes for myself until I received a death threat. We’re not the same people as we were before, so, stop lingering in the past. You told me to move on, and it had taken me a while to do so, you should do it too. Take a leaf from your own book, and move on too. That’s what I’ve been doing, but the death threats are blocking that path.
Answer: Yes, I do understand that you received criticisms too, but I received criticisms about this situation as well. I’ve been criticized for being the bad guy, too, just as you have, and I have to carry the pain in my back as well. There will always be people who will think you’re a good person or the bad person in situations like these; it’s all black and white. People have different opinions, you can’t control what people will think and criticize in this situation. People will point fingers and one will think you’re a good guy whilst the other will think you’re a bad guy; we just have to accept that. Doing the right thing doesn’t mean you can’t be criticized for it. People are allowed to hate you even if you did the right thing. You will be pointed out as a bad person even if you did the right thing. It’s just the way things are and we can’t control that.
Answer: People have. I tried. I willingly tried to. One blocked me on twitter when I mentioned how uncomfortable I am that they follow you, I wanted to be safe and not make any violent reactions when seeing this. It scares me. I learned to accept that the hard way.
Answer: I only deleted those DMs (parts of it) because I don’t wanna linger in those messages. I wanna move on. I wanna move forward; that’s the reason why I deleted them. I don’t wanna be reminded that I did the horrible things I did my best to learn from and move on.
Answer: I have stopped contacting you ever since I was forced and persuaded to talk to you last December 2018. Let’s move on. Let’s try to be civil and move on. You told me many times to move on, and while I refused at first, I eventually learned and accepted that I should move on. I understand you are still frustrated; I get frustrated too, and I’m sorry for making you feel this way and everything I did.
Answer: This came from a private friend server, not a public server. It’s a close-friend server made by another user when I was banned. They gave me the ownership afterwards because it was “made for me”. I don’t know how you got the screenshot, but please, keep in mind that this is from a private friend server with several people in it. It doesn’t even have 100 people in total, let alone 50 or 40. And, to clear things out, I was like that before, but not now. People change over time, and trust me, looking at this message is making me cringe because I hate the fact that I was like this. I’m doing what I can to change that.
Answer: It’s from a dream; a nightmare, and it’s something I can’t control, especially with all those threats that I kept on getting. I reacted to the situation so badly in the past, but now, in the present, I don’t often get dreams or nightmares like that anymore. Please, understand how sorry I am with these. Long ago, you told me to move on, and I am doing it now. I did do it, but this wouldn’t end if we just continue like this. I understand the things I did were wrong; I acknowledged it. We are all human beings who make mistakes from time to time. We either dwell on those mistakes, or learn from it. It’s our choice in the end. This endless finger pointing has been going on too long now and i wish for it to end. Again, I’m sorry for everything that I have done, but have an open mind that you’re not the only one who suffered from this situation; we both did, and now, it’s time to move on, like you said before.
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so i only just saw the announcement on the fhr server what happened while i was in something else i tried searching and everything seemed to come back to you lol
“comes back to me” LOL yeah so bee posted the blm donation post after people were all like “i need a break from social media” following malins post on the fhr tumblr and like it wasnt mean. it was just a Post with ways to help/raise awareness bc like ngl being all “oh i need a break” when like there is ZERO mention of blm before all this btw. terrible. but the mods deleted it ???? (not a single mod has admitted to being the one to delete it first). and then it got reposted under spoiler tags with like “tw police brutality/politics” which. its a donation post for blm. tone deaf. so then i reposted it again, and quite frankly ppl were chiming in with like why was it hidden under those tw and spoilers and that maybe it should be posted in the announcement channel instead of being lost in genchat (it took 2hrs for it to be a formal announcement still under tws). it RLY didnt dissolve until justaname chimed in with “this server isnt supposed to be leftist fox news” (a classic which will not be forgotten by the masses) and literally like the mods were ??? not here but the mits and cms were like either trying to help or just straight up “this server is supposed to be a safe space” like even MY post wasnt aggressive lol i just gave suggestions on how ppl could donate or stream to donate or if they want more information on first nations (bc everyone seems to believe i left out australia in this...????) but then mod cheion chimed in with “politics are on the trigger list” AGAIN and its like this is a donation post about blm YKNOW??? so then idk ppl tried to like non-apologise for comments and be all “how are ppl supposed to learn from mistakes from their comments” and encourage ppl to go onto different topics and kept saying that the donation post and blm was a “heavy topic” for a GAME that literally has “heavy topics” as its like core storytelling (which btw numerous people ALSO brought up was incredibly ironic and reminded everyone the server has been like that for a very long time) anyway madcatco literally called the server theirs LOL and was like literally take ur politics somewhere else (this game......... has politics involved btw)
like then ppl left it for maybe idk a lil while i hopped into the au server and snagged some screencaps of ppl just railing on me for literally bringing up racism bc thats bad apparently to point out racism??? also my MO is to be an asshole ❤️ and then it kicked off again as ppl read up and started criticising the mods and famous comment by trob of “we’re aware of smute” LMAOOOO like sry i tried being polite with dms and screenshots last yr to emma that mod who like was sarcastic af and trob and madcat (who also btw Hated smute and rei up until like. august last yr). anyway ppl started DIGGING and posting caps of rei and smutes antics on the server in genchat specifically (also that fucking post from saturn about smute skejfhskjdhf ) and then campaigning for ppl to be unblocked who were blocked like nina (contrary to ur opinion trob dont lie 2 us i have screenshots of u in the vent channel of the au server) and like ppl kept demanding why saturn was blocked and they REFUSED to answer why and still never outright admitted it and it kept GOING it was like absolutely hilarious and sad how many non-answers and non-apologies ppl got and they were like “oh but how do we help the server” and then ppl were like “wow i didnt realise the rot went this deep” bc sooooo many ppl were getting anons as well with just how deep smutes interaction with fhr went and it was like. incredible. also shout out to smute being the pet racist comment that was the FUNNIEST shit i’ve seen. only the mits and cms were actually trying to help btw. mods were nowhere to be seen. PPL WHO LEFT THE SERVER REJOINED like who swore off fhr all those huge content creators came back. wild. at some point i passed out, got banned by lime as a “knee jerk emotional reaction” alongside alex and seagull and i think there were others as well btw idk who and we got unblocked (im so sad that happened like an hr after i went to bed i MISSED it) and just madcatco SPLIT with no apology, idk cheion said smth but quite frankly idk it was words. lime dipped out. a whole bunch of ppl also split, ppl started POURING in again. like there was another non apology which was like ‘my mental health’ and idk man none of them still apologised for being racist mind you like that was the biggest and most absolute thing ppl kept bringing up and NONE of the mods apologised for being racist and wanting to do better. they just peaced out.
anyway now the mits are full mods, the old admin i think split after like being all “huh what i just fix up channels i dont work here” . trob is now just an admin and still being all tw drama LOL so we’ll see what happens with the server. i know ppl kept saying to make a new one but like the basic structure is there. ppl just gotta not be bought off by shitty copied art anymore yknow. who knows whats even gonna happen with the game anymore apparently malin May Return after the completion of the alpha or smth
OH AND smute’s fucking attempt at apology 2.0 sry honey but
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Q: Why are you writing this post?
A: Because during the Christmas holidays I started to receive attention from the Zootopia fandom which led me to re-discover some concepts that I thought I had made clear, and since this didn’t turn out to be true, I am forced to reiterate them.
Q: What happened?
A: I discovered that someone had reposted, obviously without my consent, an old comic of Aoimotion and mine on reddit, a site I don't like and on which I had already said not to publish my actually and old contents. This repost "reminded" this fandom of my existence, and after this event some people came to ask us questions such as "when Nick and Judy would reappear in our work?" and the like.
You can imagine how much it bothered me, so I went to reddit and wrote to immediately delete the content. Unfortunately, doing this I couldn’t help but notice how the post had become a place to waste insinuations and insults aimed at me and Aoimotion. In particular, the comments of three users stood out: @ggctuk , @owningsuperset7 and @hammytotherescue
Q: Why did these users get your attention?
A: ggctuk, which I have no idea who they are, have proclaimed themselves as the narrative voice of the events that have taken place between us and the fandom, providing a lot of incomplete and, in the worst case, completely wrong information, about why we left the fandom and about the alleged "abusive behaviors" we had against translators.
Owningsuperset7 spoke about us (like he does every time the occasion presents itself to him), defining us ungrateful towards the fandom "that had fed us". But "fed" in what sense? It seems to me that we have been those who have definitely "eaten" very little… or likes can be monetized, just like the views on youtube, and I didn't know it? Did they break the keyboard in order to put those likes on our works? If it’s so, I'm sorry, but I certainly wasn't the one who pointed the gun at their head to follow my work. Always remember that paying attention to a work is always and only a reader’s choice. No creator has power over these phenomena, we just create and publish, the rest is always an unknown factor. So expressing yourself as a seduced and abandoned lover on an old and free work doesn’t make you a victim, it only makes you ridiculous. Anyway, I know the subject, who had already decided in the past to talk on DeviantArt before I blocked him, and I decided not to tell him anything in that moment, also because, what can you say to a person who clearly has problems that go beyond fandom? Sometimes ignoring is the kindest choice you can make.
Hammytotherescue instead claimed that he and I were friends in the past, before the duo formed by me and aoimotion became toxic. Since I had no memory of this person and I hate when someone alludes to relationships with me that don't exist, I wrote to him privately on Tumblr asking him if he could kindly refresh my memory about this "friendship" he was bragging about.
Q: How did it end?
A: The conversation, which I report below because I, unlike him, have nothing to be ashamed of, is as follows:
As you can see, Hammy never replied to my last message . But in reality the story was not over. A few days ago, in fact, I discover that the user in question "vented" in the post of reddit, not under my comment (so that I received notification of his reply) but in response to another comment that had been left to me. Showing, as always, the incredible maturity of these people.
After reading this comment, I decided to act by reporting the user on reddit, but the answer I received can be summarized as: "since you are a content creator, you deserve insults regardless." In short, a response as useful and smart as the people who gave it to me. So don’t worry Hammy, you won't be banned from reddit because the only braincell shared by you users agrees that defining a toxic and manipulative person is, to quote one of the wise moderators I talked to, "a fairly typical level of criticism". All is well that ends well.
Q: You mentioned "concepts to reiterate". What would they be?
A: Let's start by denying what ggctuk wrote in that reddit's post, given how much popularity his comments have gained.
My split from this fandom started because I simply lost interest in Nick and Judy and preferred to do something else, something of my own. Black Jack gave us the opportunity to invent many original characters and they was those I wanted to work on. We have never worked for ulterior motives other than having fun together. When we recognized that we no longer have anything to give to this universe, we declared it openly and closed this chapter of our "artistic life". This split could take place in a peaceful and calm way, I would have taken my own path and you yours, since it was obvious, since BJ times, that you had very little interest in our original contents. You also reiterated this between the lines of these last comments, so really, I make a terrible effort to understand your logic of contents belonging to your fandom. It's not your fault, don't worry. You have been spoiled by this entrenched habit of creating any anthropomorphic animal and attributing it to your precious and super-nutritive fandom. Once you labeled this attitude at heresy, now everything is fine as long as it helps you keeping this universe going, honestly, I just pity you. However it seems that your obsession with me prevents you from accepting the fact that my life would have continued even without this fandom and that I would have lived very well even without the amount of likes that fanarts could give me. Indeed my life would be even more beautiful if I didn't have to waste time like I am doing now.
Both me and aoimotion together gave you a lot, and in the end we simply got it back. Jack is a prime example: yes, he is a character born from the scratches of Zootopia's artwork, but thanks to our work he has evolved to the point of becoming a completely original character. This fandom has not been able to accept it and until the end has tried to claim him as its own, and even now it can’t accept that we have instead taken him back, and even less can you bear that we are successfully using him in our original works, which is why you insist so much on his "Disney" origin, as if this defines his identity, and for months you have made fun of us saying that we were claiming something that belongs to Disney as our own. Unfortunately, beyond a doodle and a hint of a hypothetical background, Disney has absolutely nothing. Whatever weight you have attributed to "Jack Savage" is only thanks to our work, Disney has nothing to do with your mania and it has nothing to do with everything we've built up over the years. Still, you took our job and stuck it over the "Disney" label, and that was even when Black Jack was long gone, so don’t use that excuse anymore. You even tried to attribute Cynthia to the Disney universe by calling her "Skye", since you are so desperate to keep your fantasies going, and when you had nothing more to say, you said that my art style was "clearly inspired by Disney". Did you think I could condone such an attitude? I suppose these statements derive above all from the certainly very poor culture that you have of the world outside the fandom (or fandoms), however there are artists who WORKED for Disney, who TEACHED drawing techniques at the Disney Academy and who work at own productions with that style, without anyone attributing anything to the major. If you don't believe me, try using the web for something constructive, like doing some in-depth research on the subject.
As for the matter of our alleged abuses on translators, I will only say two things: the translations started because of my naivety, and we prohibited them because the translators abused their role and went out of control, acting as if the comics belonged to them and / or as if there was a special relationship of complicity between me and them. I'm sorry I gave false hopes to these people, unfortunately I didn't have time to realize the misunderstandings that were being created and how our work was being used. There is a clear difference between the fan content and the original content, so now more than even, less our work passes into the hands of others, the better it is for us.
Now let’s analyzing the brilliant messages of Hammy, both on Tumblr and on reddit:
In both cases, what I see is a desperate need to cling to Rem's "pretty" facade while simultaneously demolishing the person behind Aoimotion. These insinuations suggest that the only possible Rem to conceive for your narrow minds is the kind and lovely one, and everything I say and do that does not fall within this definition is the work of aoimotion.
I will never go into detail about the dynamics between me and her, because frankly it’s not your business and I don’t want to give you further ground to cultivate your absurd speculations and your degenerated ideas. If you have decided to treat us as two two-dimensional characters of some fourth category fan fiction born from your fragile minds and then feel disappointed or offended by my attitude or a severe response I can give you, you cannot help but blame yourself and not who is my friend .
But you have to get it into your heads that when you talk about us in a personal way, you refer only on the basis of two web profiles. You don't know us personally and above all you don't know me. Being an extremely reserved person, I always decided to use social networks to share my artistic side or my interests related to entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. "Rem289" has always been only a blog, a showcase on the web, I’ve never attributed a real emotional and above all personal value to it, even before Zootopia. For the rest I prefer to live my personal life off the web. Unfortunately, you have been so careless as to decide to hit my personal sphere, my friendships and my affections. So no, Aoi didn’t take over between you and me, but the person behind Rem289 took over and you paid the consequences.
Still on the subject of aoimotion, it seems that the moment this comment was written on DA has remained particularly impressed: https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/765376682/4647911119
This great insult, which among other things is attributed to her as if I didn’t think the same (if not worse) about you, has become the new reason why aoimotion is ugly and bad and is the reason why she deserves to be insulted and disparaged at the slightest opportunity, even during a conversation with me in which she’s not involved in any way.
Now, since this term seems to me rather dated to be used as a matter of indignation during your debates, and since I still find it rather ”soft” to use to outline my intolerance towards you, in order to give you another thing to think over, I will give you an attribute which seems more correct to me: you are sick. Confronting you is like talking to someone who has been brainwashed. You are a broken record that always says the same things over and over again. I can't even feel sorry for you, what I feel is just a great sense of unease. (Of course there are people that still participate in this fandom and are perfectly normal, but those are exceptions and they already know we think good of them.)
And it’s precisely your illness that prompted me to dissociate myself so violently from the fandom. Not aoimotion, as you have been saying for months between an insult and another that you address to her because perhaps you are too afraid of me to address them directly to me, which is rather contradictory since I should be the sweet and pretty one of the duo. After all, it's better to treat me like a poor brainless fool who lets herself be manipulated rather than admit that I also have my own ideas and that, you don’t say, you don't like them.
Q: In any case, you have no right to deprive your fans of old content they love so much, you just want to be spiteful! Why did all your old WildeHopps comics disappear from the web?
A: The decision to delete the contents created by me relating to the fandom from my web platforms or those shared with my partner was not born in the least out of spite or "punishment" towards the members of the fandom. It was a decision made to dissociate my name and my current work from fandom, because unfortunately it created difficulties for my image and real difficulties for readers to understand (you can go on and say that if people think your work is still Zootopia-related is not a big deal, but I assure you it is). All that came after, are only and exclusively speculations built on purpose to find the most sinister reasons of why it happened. Publishing content is only an accessory part of the job itself, a percentage of the process. Deciding to publish, not publish or cancel a publication is at the pure expense of the author, and no consumer has the right to impose his will on the creator. I understand that they are perhaps too complex concepts for you, since it’s clear that you are used to measuring the value of things based on the likes they receive, but this current of thought also exists and I hope it will be useful to you someday, in the remote possibility that decide to take moments of deep reflection (which would be more and more useful than tapping your fingers on the keyboard).
(Little curiosity: in the last few weeks we have forwarded about twenty reports to various sites to remove our old contents posted there without our permission. Not only all twenty reports have been accepted, but the contents have all been removed in less than 12 hours from the date of reporting. This is to remind you that if we don’t want our content on the web, we have them removed and it’s the reposters who pay for it, not us.)
Q: Well, however you can't force us not to talk badly about you or aoimotion, in fact, you can't stop us from believing that she's been manipulating you for years. Almost certainly it’s she who is writing this post without your knowledge, isn't it?
A: The people of the web are notoriously lazy and are therefore often uninformed and constipated in developing their own concepts. They spit sentences without even knowing what they’re talking about, they choose "comfortable" truths, such as the fact of attributing to aoimotion every not nice word that comes from me, and when this phenomenon is reflected on real persons, unfortunately it’s quite difficult to manage.
We are attributed with labels, words, concepts, faults, relationships that don’t belong to us and that are difficult to get away from. A simple comment or a wrong statement towards a person can spread like wildfire and end up marking them for life. Needless to say, these conditions often prevent these same people from continuing with their activities, which instead are healthy, in a serene and peaceful way. Even now, instead of drawing, I’m writing this latest post to defend me and my partner from your sick slanders. Those who allow themselves the luxury of damaging the "active personalities" of the web are people who fully enjoy anonymity behind a screen, and often people who have the matter of regulating them (like the reddits moderators, who are a joke at best) limit themselves to considering certain behaviors "ordinary” in the creator / consumer relationship. The mere fact of normalizing certain behaviors doesn’t smooth out the rules of civilized life, makes these "authorities" complicit and therefore only adds a problem. It’s more than evident that some people are not yet able to distinguish the boundary that exists between objective opinion and direct and personal insult, but from people who lose sleep at night because they have been defined as “lunatic” I don’t expect anything less. Who knows what you will do now that I have called you sick.
I conclude with a message to the interested party:
@hammytotherescue: I don't know how old you are, however, judging by what you write and how you write it and how you act, I deduce that you should not be more than 14-15 years old. Unfortunately I regret to tell you that the fact you are a minor doesn’t mean that you don’t have to take responsibility for your actions, and if you still have doubts about understanding where you have gone wrong I advise you to ask your parents for advice. I gave you the opportunity to confront me but you ran away to cry on a public platform. Hasn't anyone taught you that real life doesn't work like that? If, on the other hand, you are an adult, I sincerely feel sorry for you, I say this from the bottom of my heart.
I know how comfortable it is to hide behind a group or in this case a fandom to vent one's dislikes towards the individual. This time you and your friends have received the same treatment, you have not caught generic appellations addressed to the fandom but I decided to speak to you personally. My only advice is to use this experience to learn how it behaves on the web, and when you have learned it, you could teach it to all your friends, perhaps starting with @owningsuperset7.
For @ggctuk: I hope you will appreciate my effort in writing this long post, as so the next time you talk about us again, you can use it as a reference to explain how things went 🤗
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Rantception S1•E1 - princeofmints exposed | ft. TatSquirp
(I am about a month late on posting this here)
Welcome to the first episode of my brand new series titled Rantception where I talk about a topic or some unfortunate soul who became a total jerk as of recently. I am starting this series off by talking about the user by the name of princeofmints.
princeofmints is apart of the Eddsworld community and they are apart of the official EW Amino, Tumblr, and Instagram. Unfortunately princeofmints is in some hot water right now.
Oh and before I get to that, I just want to make this clear, the princeofmints that I am referring to isn't the one who made tomtord p*rn. This princeofmints is actually accused of tracing and being a total d*ck.
Also they got banned from Amino, but they are still going strong on both Tumblr and Instagram.
One more thing: don't harass them. Instead I want you to stop supporting them. Don't not praise them.
With that out the way, let's get into the news.
I unfortunately didn't know any of this drama that happened till seeing callout posts about it. But I used to like princeofmints's posts until what happened recently.
I decided to to take a look at their wall after seeing a few callout posts on them before they got taken down.
Annnnnd yeah.....they are such an arsehole. Just...just look at these screenshots....
(the third one is my favorite in terms of arsehole energy that's being radiated from it)
I'll be honest with you, the third is the one that show the bitterness of princeofmints. Trying to guilt trip you. I'm sorry to say this, but it's not working. Nice try.
Now I'll handing the rest of this over to the one and only Squirp/TatSquirp who've agreed to be on the show and I certainly didn't kidnap them.
Squirp: ...Why am I here? Why am I tied u-
Lbat1901(me): Shhhh! Just give the audience your side on this
Squirp: Ok, fine...*clears throat*....so a week ago, I've made a callout post exposing princeofmints titled "Dethroning a Prince". It took me awhile to everything and not too soon after posting it on Animo, I've also posted it on Instagram.
Oh boy...it got taken down. No actually I got told by a model on Animo to take it down which I did while on Instagram it got flagged for harassment. I eventually reposted it.
princeofmints (or what I like to call her, Prince) is a 15 year old artist who mostly draws Tom, Tord, and the ship TomTord. She was on the EW Amino since January 13th of this year before getting banned. S
Alright with that out of the way, I'll try to make this brief
She also has been known to cause quite the trouble.
I have been caught up to speed on what Prince has done even learning th as t she had actually scammed someone.
I believe that Lbat told you this already, but Prince's name was stolen by someone who has the same name, but let's dwell on this.
Part 1 - Tracing:
Squirp: Ok so, a few days ago some of my friends and I looked at one of Prince's art and discovered that it was traced from an already existing drawing made by P-Nim. Of course Prince denied this and claimed that it was her own art.
Ok I'll make this clear, Prince didn't draw it for a DTIYS. If Prince didn't trace it then she shouldn't be claiming it as her own.
Also if you want to compare posts or have a look for yourself, you can't cause she deleted it. So much for being reasonable which goes into this next part....
Part 2 - Blocking those who've cornered you for being unreasonable:
Squirp: Oh yes, just like TBATF, Prince also blocks people for calling her out. Unlike TBATF who only block people for giving them criticism and calling them out on their behavior, Prince blocks people for many reasons.
One of them being totally unreasonable. She blocked one of my friends who called her out for tracing. Prince even deleted several comments when trying to defend herself for being called out before deciding to hit the block button.
She even blocked me after I tried to call her out on her wall. I did PM her a few days later about and guess what her response was. The reason why she blocked me was because she didn't like me.
My god....that has to be most stupidest as all hell reason to block someone and folks, we're on the second part on this and things are already getting heated.
Part 3 - Being a b*ch isn't all that cool:
Squirp: Hold on a minute, why is b*ch censored?
(Editor: that's because it's Lbat's show and I am meant to help with anything that Lbat puts out for everyone to see)
Squirp: Yeah, but why? Who cares anyway?
(Editor: well you're probably have a point, but it's my job. Now are you going to continue to argue or are you going to keep going with your side of the story?)
Squirp: I am...geez! I've never meant an editor that's who picky. This isn't YouTube with the whole COPPA thing you know.
Anyway..... pt 3....Prince has to be one of the biggest d*cks that I have ever talked to and- oh my god, why would you censor the word- forget it. Forget it...
Erm...yeah....she cursed at some many people that it's just mindboggling. She's not the most pleasant person to talk to on Amino or anywhere else.
Before you say that she probably has some mental health issues, don't even bother. Well I know she does has some issues, but it doesn't give her the excuse to not be a total d*ck. People who do have issues are at least well spoken and are respectful to others.
But Prince on the other hand, not a freaking single chance.
Part 4 - Stop acting sad:
Squirp: You're probably thinking to yourself, "Wow, Prince is a jerk" and you'd be right. But to make matters worse, she likes to guilt trip people.
How? Well she tries to make you feel sorry for her by giving you a sad sad tale before deciding to cuss you out.
That's right, it's pretty low for her. I don't need to explain why this is bad just because it is. It's really scummy especially when she's in the wrong here. Next!
Part 5 - Don't let Prince do commissions. EVER:
Oh yeah, she actually did this. I did found the person who got scammed and they are a person known as BadBoy.
You see BadBoy commissioned Prince to do a drawing for 92 coins. Unfortunately for BadBoy, Prince said that the price was actually lower than that. But it gets much much worse than that.
Prince got wicked with them and refused to give other pieces of art to BadBoy. Eventually BadBoy had enough and asked for a refund. That's when things started to escalate really fast.
Prince told BadBoy to piss off. After a long battle, Prince gave BadBoy 72 coins back when BadBoy asked for a full refund.
Squirp: I have been saving this part for last and it gave me a reason to make a callout on Prince in the first place. She literally scammed someone over 72 coins.
In summary, Prince just stole BadBoy's money and was a total d*ck towards them.
And that should do it for now, but I one final message to Prince. If you're reading this now while getting harassed for being callout for your crap: none of this, and I stress this a lot, none of this wouldn't have happened if you were to just act a tad bit kinder and a whole bit wiser.
Oh and maybe if you would've just listened. Also running away from your problems, lying, and pretending that they didn't happen makes you look like the bad guy here.
You know, I wouldn't mind you being on Animo at all if you just shallow your pride and try to do better by apologizing to everyone.
I didn't mean to make my callout post to hurt you in a way. In fact, I still believe that you can change. But atlas, your problems need to be addressed to make that happen.
All you need to do is try. That's it. That's all I ask for.
Lbat1901(me): *claps* Nicely done, Squirp. Nicely done.
Squirp: Thanks Lbat. It's been a pleasure being on here. Now can I go home now?
Lbat1901(me): Uhh.....*walks away from Squirp and walks out of the room before shutting the door*
Squirp: Lbat? Uh Lbat? Lbat? This isn't funny! Untie me! Hey cameraman, you're still here. Untie me, please
Camraman: *shrugs before shaking their head*
Squirp: What do you mean no? Ugh!
{screen cuts to Lbat sitting in a chair}
Lbat1901(me): Well that's the end of the first episode of Rantception. I want to thank TatSquirp for coming on and helping me out. Please check them out on the EW Amino and possibly their Instagram as well while you're at it.
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Something about art repost
I really need somewhere to vent, so I’m sorry Tumblr.
These days I’m having a lot of problems with the art reposting. I never cared too much if the person who did it gave me credits, and I allowed it. But a few days ago I reached my limit and said to PLEASE don’t repost my drawings anywhere. Why that change of mind? Because that went too far and people started to repost everything without credits. When it just once, you say "well, its ok", but when nobody bothers to do it, it’s frustrating.
When I said that on Instagram I had a problem with someone who started to say nonsense. You can be against repost or not, I can accept that. But with valid argument.
But the problem has arrived today on Facebook. I'm in a quite large Danganronpa group, which reposts my drawings (AN LOTS OF ARTISTS WORKS), without credits. Sometimes they do it, but 90% of the time they upload lots of images without caring where they come from. I never said anything to them and I let it pass.Until a couple of days ago, they shared a post of one of my drawings that was on another group, writting in the main comment my name as "Chris-chan.".When I left a comment to correct them saying that it was "Criiis-chan", they told me that "it was a joke" (obviously many of us know from where.) Joke that is not funny to me anymore, besides that you devalue my work giving “””credits””” to another person. I got really upset, so today when I saw that they were posting another of my drawings without credits, I said that I didn’t allow reposts and that I was not comfortable with it, to please delete the post. I was told that there was nothing against the rules and he laughed at me, saying “noone was gonna die for not posting my art” which frustrated me even more so I opened them a DM. Saying that due to this lack of respect towards me I wanted them to take down all my drawings from that group. To which the admin has told me that it was the first time that an artist complained about art reposting, and I’ve been giving him my point of view and asking respect to the artists.
He had another point of view, so he told me that he didn’t have time for this, that he was going to delete my drawings of the group and that he was going to ban me to avoid more conflicts. And indeed, without letting me say anything, he banned me. And then he made a post adding the link to this Tumblr saying that I do not accept reposts.
They also said I got banned because I threatened them, when I just said I was gonna report that previous post that had no credits.
What happened from here is that people in the comments start laughing at me. And there was even people saying “no one’s gonna repost ur art cause is generic tumblr art” (?????????if you don’t like my art why did you keep posting it? dunno).
The only thing I asked for was respect. Respect for people who creates content. Respect for people who dont want their art to be reposted on another sites, and specially without credits. But seems like this caused some people laugh because "without reposts nobody sees you", "we dont earn money so there’s nothing bad about repost". Sorry, but I rather prefer my art to be seen by just 1 person, than someone who reposted it getting it seen by 1000 when mine is still being seen by 1. Because honestly, people dont usually bother go to artists real medias when they see their art reposted. People lefts a like on the reposted drawing and then leave. It doesn’t benefit us at all.
Obviously, there will be someone who finds artists like that, but most people leave a like and leave.
Please. We only ask respect for artists who do not want their drawings to be reposted.
Im really sorry this was really dense
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Hator was kind enough to provide a list of accusations against the nans. Let’s see how easy it is to destroy them
-sending threatening asks to anyone who likes a blog’s posts, even when unrelated to the fandom : She always says that, but she’s never shown us one of those asks. If there had been any, she would keep reposting them. Aeltri on the other hand is known for jumping on other peoples positive posts about Ben and Sophie and spewing her BS. Just look at her Twitter account
-ostracizing someone for saying ANYTHING not completely positive about your Queen : Again, pics or it didn’t happen. And she isn’t our queen, she’s Ben’s.
-blocking people and DEMANDING others block them too, if they don’t follow your “rules” : I don’t remember ever seeing anyone demanding that someone block a hater. I have on occasion warned people about reblogging from the septics, but I never demanded anything or block them for it. But if I see someone constantly reblogging from a hater and agree with them, I will block them.
Also, it’s a bit rich of Hator to complain about people blocking her when she blocks everyone that doesn’t agree with her.
-DOXXING : Look, if Hator is stupid enough to post enough personal info about herself, then it’s not really doxxing. The overwhelming majority of us denounce the practice. Hator reblogged a post made by Aeltri doxxing a perfect stranger. She also went through UK tax records to find Sophie’s “real” address.
-MAKING MULTIPLE SOCK PUPPET BLOGS TO DOXX : Sock puppet accounts are the haters thing. Anna even admitted having one on Twitter to follow the nans.
-POSTING A MAP TO SOMEONE’S PERSONAL HOME TRYING TO INCITE OTHERS TO HARASS : See response to the doxxing. Also, it’s not like the haters have never incited others to harass the people being nice to Sophie.
-having people blocked from other chat sites : Should I bring up the Freedom of speech cartoon again? I don’t think the haters got the point.
-trying to have blogs on Tumblr shut down JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE THEM : I think it’s more of a trying to get blog shut down because they post hate speech. Again, accusing someone of being a criminal without a shred of evidence isn’t free speech.
-TRYING TO GET PEOPLE BANNED FROM EVENTS : When a person threatens to hurt Ben or Sophie, you bet your ass we’ll make sure said person doesn’t get near them. Aeltri should be careful, she most likely avoid a jail sentence by being banned from that charity events.
-TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FIRED FROM THEIR JOBS : We’ve never had any proof any us tried to get a hater fired from their jobs, but we have quite a few of haters trying to get people fired for being nice to Sophie.
-SENDING THREATENING LETTERS TO THEIR HOUSE : Pics or it didn’t happen.
-SAYING YOU WANTED PEOPLE WHO DON’T AGREE WITH YOU TO DIE HORRIBLE DEATHS : The only real case of this was in response to a post Hator made wishing Sophie and the kids to have a horrible death. Just because she deleted (or had it deleted) doesn’t erase what she did. Specially since she never once apologized for it.
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Hey guys, you know that lots of my old drawings are nsfw and well... I already assumed they are going to be deleted....this got me scared a bit, so I checked my blog, and some of the most safe, cute and totally harmless drawings are already banned (and I sent them for revision ofc), while some real nsfw is still untouched hahaha! this doesn’t make any sense tbh...
Is not that I’m going to lose these drawings (I still have them all here in folders) It’s just that.. I don’t know how to explain, they are important just where they are now and with the history they have behind, reposting them somewhere else won’t have the same impact for me or for all of you as like when they were just made long ago, and a nervous me decided to share them with the support of the kind people from a lovable old fandom.... I don’t know if I made my point here. I just think the tumblr staff will delete part of my history, part of my growth and registers of my improvemet. All in all, good memories....
I won’t be able to share these somewhere else because it would never be the same for me...
haha maybe I’m just anticipating? and... the changes won’t be that bad? you know we have panicked for many things like that before. But just in case... for you to know, my heart is with all of us nsfw creators out there. You are amazing, and loved, and talented!
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PSA
I usually avoid doing these unless the situation is dire. Some of you might be familiar with my “Toxic Person Alert” post from October of 2018 that mentions a prolific and abusive plagiarizer. The person in question has been issued a lifetime ban on dA, but they are still active on Tumblr.
They are actively liking AND reblogging Xiaolin posts with comments--ancient posts from back when you first started your blog. I had this person blocked, but seeing them do this with a close friend’s blog has triggered me, and I do not trigger easily. Please report and block them for spam or harassment, or both. I’ll put more details below for those who are interested.
TL;DR, if you see a blog called Del//aneyAr//t (without slashes) in your notes, block and report them on sight.
What started off as a cut and dry case of plagiarism has grown into an all out shit show. De//laneyA//rt here on tumblr entered the deviant art side of the Xiaolin fandom with some very nice traditional drawings. Soon after, people realized that she had copied all of her compositions from other artists, both in and outside of the Xiaolin fandom. When the original artists politely asked her to credit them, she refused, saying that “[they] should be grateful that [she] even took notice of [their] shitty art,” and “[she] was inspired... [and] didn’t mean any harm.” When confronted about understanding the laws of copyright she said, “art has no rules,” and “I don’t need to prove myself to anyone.” A very interesting point of view for someone who claims they want to be a teacher and do “nationwide commissions.” Everything should have ended with her account being banned, but it didn’t.
D went on to make new accounts. Messaging those she had plagiarized with rude, abusive messages, and then blocking them so they could not respond. It got to the point that one of my favorite artists was considering leaving the fandom all together because D had made them feel so helpless. D finally received a lifetime ban from dA for evading a one week suspension earlier this month (December 2018). She is still making new accounts and trying to apologize, saying she and the person she copied most are friends now. The artist in question, Skyrawathi on dA, wants nothing to do with D, and is even thinking about taking legal action against her. So what does all this have to do with tumblr?
Again, D//elane//yArt is trying to make a name for herself in some corner of the internet. She is currently reposting her plagiarized works without credit to the original artists, even after she said publicly on dA (before her account was deleted) that she would credit artists now. Every time she tries to make a comeback she finds my “Toxic Person Alert” post from October 2018, and replies to it with “lol.” She replies in the same fashion to everyone who has outted her abuse in the past, then promptly blocks all of us so we cannot respond, even if we wanted to. You might see her liking a bunch of your posts. You might even see her reblogging your posts with comments. DO NOT LIKE HER CONTENT. DO NOT GIVE HER NOTES. DO NOT MESSAGE HER ON ANY PLATFORM. ALL SHE WANTS IS ATTENTION. DO NOT GIVE IT TO HER. If you so much as give her one like, she will message you, asking that you consider following her. Block her before she even gets the chance. Keep her out of your notes. Report and Block her or she will sink her nails into you and never let go.
Lock her Out.
Please DM me if you have further questions or want receipts of the plagiarism and abuse.
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hi Natalie! hope you're having a nice day. since you've had an instagram art account for a while now, i was wondering if you like it more than tumblr and which one overall is better to post art on. (your art is wonderful btw, and thank you for taking your time to answer the questions, it's really helpful!)
Thank you, hope you have a great day too :)
I hate instagram. It resizes and crops images, it doesn’t allow you to post art from a computer so you have to put all the art on your phone first and then post it. It doesn’t show you more than 100 latest notes so if someone writes something in the comments and you somehow don’t check your phone every 5min then you have to go to your post and browse separately under every post checking if you got any comments. If someone @ you (for example reposter who puts your name under their repost) and you miss it you will never find that repost ever again because tag system sucks big thing. If you post a drawing and many people like it you can’t even browse the notes because they jump to the top every time someone likes the post. There is no way to find a comment among all “this user liked your post”, “this user followed you”, because it all looks the same, so short comments are impossible to pop in all the note stream. To browse your likes you have to enter settings... ridiculous. If someone answers your comment it’s impossible to notice because 100 fucking notes. People can delete your comment under your own post? Like what?? And it mixes people whose DMs I answered and those I haven’t. And everyone asks you if they can repost your art, or they just repost without asking. And there are hundreds of those stupid videos where people play with that gooey thing...
So yeah xD I don’t really like instagram, it’s nice to browse someone’s art when you can see all the posts in those tiny squares but if you want to zoom in or something it’s just useless.Tumblr isn’t for art either but I like it a lot more with all the technical stuff even if they’re not ideal. Nsfw ban was (and still is) rubbish, a lot of cool art is blocked (and it’s not even explicit). Also, tumblr is tumblr, not very professional site, you don’t have a viewer friendly layout that’ll present all your art in one place, people have to scroll and scroll.
Omg, too long answer. I’m waiting for a nice site for artists. If anyone wants to consult me about how it should look like I’m here ;) lol
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Take Down That
I wrote most of this post up for private consumption, but given the recent news about: http://blog.archive.org/2019/04/10/official-eu-agencies-falsely-report-more-than-550-archive-org-urls-as-terrorist-content/ it spurred me to make it more public.
So reposting with some minor edits, plus one large additional note, to my zen blog to try and find some zen by venting. I’m just so very tired of the world right now.
So firstly I just want to say I like the Internet Archive a lot. I find it very soothing for the "is my memory faulty or is this person saying something that is untrue" - http://web.archive.org/
So when they do their fundraiser I generally donate to it these days as I have the cash flow to support it, and it’s helped me out significantly over the years, even when I didn’t have the cash flow. So here is a cup to The Web Archive, who’s helped protect many sanity for many years, and I hope will continue for many years to come. They accept donations year round here: https://archive.org/donate/
This is a correction to a bit of misinformation that I’ve seen lately that’s annoying me, even though some of the posts that talk about it are quite nice. Disclaimer: while I was in fandom at the time, I was not involved in OTW and in fact at the time all of this happened I was a bit skeptical of it’s chances of long term success - I’m glad to have been proven wrong. I do volunteer for OTW now but not for either of their Policies or Legal teams. Ao3/OTW is also not affiliated as far as I’m aware to Internet Archive in any way.
OTW was not started because of https://fanlore.org/wiki/Strikethrough_and_Boldthrough where a lot of stuff was being deleted from LJ, especially if it was LGBT content, including things that should have been fine according to their terms of service. Much like Tumblr insisting on banning the truth emerges from her well, even though technically it should be find if you took the CEO's letter seriously about classic art being fine.
OTW was started because of https://fanlore.org/wiki/FanLib - this pre-dates strike through. You can see this in the very initial post where they were talking about OTW here: https://fanlore.org/wiki/An_Archive_Of_One%27s_Own_(post_by_astolat)
Think of it as like Pillowfort - Pillowfort was not created because of the https://fanlore.org/wiki/Tumblr_NSFW_Content_Purge, it predated it significantly, but it got a lot of support because of said tumblrpocalpse, since people had a specific need that they were concerned about, which meant that an alternative being available was super useful!
Who was fanlib? Fanlore article here, https://fanlore.org/wiki/FanLib but to summarise... Fanlib was a couple of dudes who wanted to basically incorporate fandom for purposes of making money.
A lot of people at the time, were extremely concerned that this was going to get fandom sued out of existence, and increase the likelihood of militant take down notices. There was also the concern that by submitting work there, you lost any future rights to it - because that’s what the TOS effectively said.
If you wonder if that seems a bit extreme, yeah well, here is a news article from May 1, 1989, about disney suing a, day care center, for putting up some art of disney characters on the walls of the center. https://www.apnews.com/4d98c8dee1c72fa5ac42ce01dff143fd
Like, this is effectively fanart done on the walls. The way it's described - it's not in advertising, not sold directly, just to help make the place brighter and more friendly.
I always remember this example because it's one that tends to get people outraged, but I really want to emphasis that it wasn’t a once off situation, this used to be extremely common that people would link or gossip to me about these kinds of things.
That’s still an issue, by the way. Now days it's less about "fandom" stuff - but take down notices for "criticism" which are protected by fair use*, the same thing that OTW claims helps enable fandom, are still not that uncommon here’s one that’s quite recent with some of the publicity that it’s gotten: https://torrentfreak.com/vox-targets-the-verge-critic-with-dubious-youtube-takedown-190215/
In fact in some countries, criticism technically has more protection via fair use equivilents than fandom does.
This is Anne Rice: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Anne_Rice
I have nothing to say about Anne Rice that has not already been said. She’s not an isolated case.
In general I’ve found if people want to take down one thing - they won’t stop at one, they won’t draw boundaries, they won’t use judgement, because they don’t care - they’ll try to take down everything they can. It’s become an emotional issue in some cases, or a financial one. Neither provide incentive for trying to be diplomatic or fair.
Effectively if people don’t like you, they will try to find a way to make your voice go away and turn take down notices into a bully tactic even if everything you do is fine, and technically could help benefit them. There’s no incentive to not be a dick, if you want to be a dick, other than bad publicity, and the people who want to try really hard to get everything taken down will find the one thing that could be considered “acceptable to remove” to try and push the other stuff off the internet table.
If you can’t get it by hook, then you can get it by crook and they will add as much grease to the slippery slope as they can if they think it will benefit themselves.
New Note: This is why the Internet Archive being threatened on being blocked in France really concerns me, because it helps provide a lot of information and history. I know that they do respond to take down notices, but the fact that Gutenberg project is being asked to be removed in it’s entirety, and the push with the recent EU Single Market Directive makes me concerned that this is not about legitimate concerns such as terrorism, and more using buzzwords to help push copyright boundaries, even on things where that has lapsed.
Basically given the very short time frame - only one hour from receiving the notice to successfully removing the content, with the ruling their trying to implement, is basically setting it up so only one thing can be implemented to resolve - upload filters, of which, Tumblr is an excellent example of why I am extremely skeptical, given that it’s also definitely targeting platonic LGBT content at times. Also, given the stretch of what their demanding - seriously, commentary on the Quran is now considered a terrorism item.
This just in, Muslims are not allowed to talk about their religion in any way shape or form - because all of this is supposed to be taken down: https://archive.org/details/002Baqarah_201712
First comes that beautiful Surah, 15. Each chapter or portion of the Quran is called a Surah, which means a Degree Or Step, by which we mount up. Sometimes whole Surahs were revealed, and sometimes portions, which were arranged under the Prophet's directions.
That means that a lot of information is going to become harder and more expensive to find, and we’ve seen historically used to limit information the public has to make decisions. https://www.freetibet.org/news-media/na/blog-great-firewall-china
You can decide where your judgement falls on that.
I don’t really want to go into the if’s that’s about censorship which is usually why people yell about OTW and make reference to Strikethrough in the tweet/post. People generally make a choice about where they fall on it. I think that some websites may choose to be more restrictive, and some sites may choose to be less and that’s fine. I think that there should be multiple websites out there to met different peoples needs. In fact I really want there to be multiple websites - I think that makes for a much healthier fandom environment.
… I just also think it really sucks when 30,000+ sailor moon fanfics get deleted with no warning (that’s the 2012 one): https://fanlore.org/wiki/FanFiction.Net%27s_NC-17_Purges:_2002_and_2012 It also sucks when people try to make themselves an online home and are forced to move on - even when they were responsible for helping to make a product a success to begin with.
This is Ao3’s terms of service: https://archiveofourown.org/tos
If you actually read it, Archive of our own doesn’t host things that illegal in the US. That means if it’s legally defined as something that is illegal, it’s not allowed on the archive. There are also many things which the archive is willing to host, but has decided need to be marked in some way to stop people from clicking it accidentally.
Additionally some of the things that the archive may be illegal in other countries. For example, all same sex stories that are told in a way that is promotes “homonormativity — content presenting homosexuality as being a norm in society” are illegal in some countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law
I think that the latter is profoundly wrong, and if you think that the Russian law I linked to is an ideal then I don’t even know why you got to this point in my post. There’s literally nothing we have to talk about. Plus! Russia is not the only country that has these kinds of laws! It’s just one of the physically largest ones.
Also in my experience, in general, even if the censorship applies to all kinds of relationships “fairly” in theory, in practice it’s often unfairly applied.
It can be used to bully women: : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/01/xi-jinpings-authoritarian-rise-in-china-has-been-powered-by-sexism/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a4174f02a74c
And it will far more often be applied to minorities than the majority: https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/12/11/straight-male-gaze-rules-sanitized-social-media
Just.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jan/18/stonewall-defends-vital-lgbt-childrens-books-after-spate-of-ban-attempts
So if you’re someone who is very tired of having censorship applied unfairly to you, you’ll often when you make a new service wonder, “how can I fairly police this” and you’ll draw up some lines.
Because Ao3 is not actually interested in hosting everything - they’re specifically a non-commercial archive for fandom. Things that fall outside of that aren’t allowed to be hosted there and can/will be taken down. Ao3 decided one of it’s lines would be “is this legal in the US?”
This is to try and remove as much judgement as possible, attempt to be consistent with rulings. Not the boss says this, but the minion says that. Not, the user is reporting this, but the person they’re complaining about is the founders best friend so we’re going to give them an exemption. It’s also trying to minimise the debate points. For example a length debate I’ve seen online: where “holding hands” now has to be debated over whether it’s shippy (and thus banned) or just “cute” (and thus allowed).
My example is not an exaggeration. That’s an actual argument I’ve seen in the wild, where I genuinely believed that parties implementing an adblocker to image block stuff probably would have been a lot better off mentally; rather trying to fine tune the argument with a rules lawyer who was very dedicated to the cause of annoying a particular individual and/or community. (It’s also why some maid costume outfits are banned on reddit! Like, here is an example of a banned image which I personally think is quite a bit of a stretch: https://i.imgur.com/GBxopor.jpg )
So if you’re wondering what I'm getting at… When I say that it’s not inspired by Strikethrough and instead by fanlib and then spend a lot of time talking about cases where censorship has been abused.
Yes censorship is important to many people in the OTW. But it’s not “some works being deleted” that inspired it.
It’s being tired of the threat of having all fan works being deleted.
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