#scott mccall defense squad

[toastybugguy]

Fanon perception:

The actual text of the show:

guys the huge difference is actually really funny when I’m not actively crying about it

[anakinskywalkerisfave]

In this house we love and appreciate Scott McCall

[thyfggfy]

I had contemplated doing this post for awhile , because quite frankly I wasn't sure what I was trying to accomplish and even now I am not sure what my goal is. I just know that I don't want to scream into the void . I want to be heard.

Some of you might be aware of one of the most recent tw confession blogs . In one of their more recent posts a very interesting discussion occurred.

One of my mutuals pointed out a collection of fics that are labelled as "101 ways to kill Scott McCall". At first I didn't even notice this , because idk. Maybe I just glazed over it , however when more people began interacting with the publication I SAW IT and I just had to check for myself .

One of said fics is called "Kill-a-Character Bingo - Scott McCall" which is a fanfiction of 26 chapters in which Scott is killed in various grotesque and humiliating ways.This is one of the chapters:

Outside of feeling gross , disillusioned and honestly sick to my stomach , I was also beyond perplexed . It is one thing to dislike a character . To be so annoyed by them that you just want them gone by any means necessary . I can even understand killing them in your own fic as a "treat" . I can't say I am on board with that , but still I can put myself in your shoes...sort of. Writing a fanfiction in which your main focus is a character you loathe , on the other hand, is ...confusing to say the least.

I can already hear some of you saying "It is not like I wrote this" and you are right , but what about the people supporting it .

115+ people apparently consider this good , entertaining . Gave the "author" their silent encouragement to keep going .

To be fair this fic is from the end of 2023 so the kudos are not that much so let's look at their most recent work with the "Dead Scott McCall" tag -"Compare" which was written at the beginning of February 2024

Over 100 kudos in the span of 3 months . Not too shabby for ao3.How much is too much ? How much longer can you use the "just a few rotten apples" argument?

If you are wondering how Scott's life ends in this story , one of the readers was more than happy to inform us.

I am going to avoid name-calling ,okay. I know that realistically not all of you are like this (thank god). I just want to ask. Do you think this is healthy? Do you think that is a fulfilling way for someone to spend their free time? Are you going to be comfortable being near this person and their fans knowing this is one of their "hobbies"? I don't know about you , but I would definitely be keeping my distance.

Again, I have no clue what is the point of this . I don't want you to attack the user . They would most likely just double down on doing what they know best . Maybe some of you would understand why people from my side of the fandom are so willing to accuse you of certain things instead of getting butthurt . Though that is most likely also asking for too much.

[prettyshon10]

Hey, there.

Just wanted to reiterate that Scott McCall was a VICTIM, and him initially wanting nothing to do with being a werewolf was NOT “whining”.

Peter was vile. Derek was not a good teacher. The bite was NOT a gift. Scott owed them nothing, least of all his gratitude.

There’s nothing “cool” about being attacked in the woods. There’s nothing “awesome” about having your choices and autonomy stripped. There’s nothing “fun” about being hunted. There’s nothing to “embrace” about being dragged into a conflict that has NOTHING to do with you.

Scott McCall was a victim, and y’all need help.

[princeescaluswords]

Whenever I see an opinion that says "Character X should have stayed single," 49 times out of 50, it turns out that Character X is a character of color whom the writers have had the unmitigated gall to devote screen time to exploring this character's romantic relationships.

[lpwrites]

On Wasted Potential

(The return of the early morning meta post before work.)

It’s been hard to put into words what is so odd about fandom’s reaction to Stiles and Scott and the concept of being a werewolf in Teen Wolf, but a recent comment I saw mentioned something that maybe puts things into better perspective.

The comment boiled down to the idea that being a werewolf and having powers was wasted on Scott. I don’t recall having seen comments like that before, but it makes sense if people are looking at it in that way. He’s wasting his powers, he’s not using them to their full potential and therefore he’s not a good werewolf.

The thing that clicked for me with that comment is that people are treating Scott’s werewolf powers the same way Stiles did in early Season 1: with excitement, like it’s something cool that should be used always to solve every problem, including using it to murder people (but only the Right people, of course).

That in itself isn’t too weird to me: we see the same kind of suspension of disbelief in all sorts of media, especially those involving kids or teenagers. If you give a kid a sword in order to go on a question (Percy Jackson, for example), it’s not a bad thing, it’s part of the story. You obviously wouldn’t give an actual 11-year old a weapon, because they could hurt themselves or someone else, but for the sake of the story? Hell yeah, go around waving that thing, no problem.

Teenager has superpowers that could very easily be used to do bad things if so inclined? Yeah, that sounds about right, as long as an adult figure reminds them that they need to be responsible with their newfound abilities. (Uncle Ben’s only line in any Spiderman project comes to mind, obviously.) There is a lack of weight behind the statement, though, until something bad happens and our teenage hero realizes they have a real responsibility to be good or save lives or whatever, but the real consequences of those powers are never really touched on unless it’s a specific plot beat.

Teen Wolf doesn’t do that. 

From the very beginning, the bite is framed like a horror movie. A kid is attacked in the woods in the middle of the night by a monster and he’s left to walk home alone in the dark. He tells his best friend about it the next day and the very real, very terrifying attack is treated like a joke. (And in his defense, Stiles didn’t know, so I don’t actually hold it against him too much at this point.)

He starts experiencing weird changes in his body, hearing and seeing things he’s not used to, and while some are benefits -- no asthma is a plus -- he’s clearly shown to be unnerved by it. He snaps at Jackson and spills almost everything because he’s scared, and that’s completely reasonable. Scott doesn’t get a cool little montage set to catchy music where he gets to practice his Cool New Abilities in his room while his mom calls out from another room asking if he’s okay. He’s immediately thrust into a situation where he is being manipulated by the Alpha, thrust into a world he doesn’t fully understand, and is intimidated and threatened by the only other werewolf around.

Derek calls the bite a gift, and I partially blame that scene for fandom’s idea of it, but you wouldn’t have to change much to make Scott’s werewolf origins into a full-blown horror series. He’s been given a weapon he can’t control, that he knows he needs to control, while there’s an active threat of death and violence hanging over his head. The Sheriff gets injured peripherally to what’s happening to him, and Stiles loses it and hurts him because in his teenage brain that’s all he can do, and fandom thinks Scott’s in the wrong? He’s living a nightmare and all people can focus on is the fact that he’s not following the trope, so obviously having these powers is wasted on him.

Even in later seasons, fandom holds Scott’s reluctance to embrace his powers to the fullest against him. He doesn’t want to be a killing machine, he never wanted the powers in the first place, and even if he had been asked I don’t think Scott would have agreed. He was fine being normal, and all he’s gotten since the bite is death and violence and threats against the people he loves. Peter gave a teenager a gun and set people after him, and fandom is angry that the teenager isn’t going full John Wick on his enemies so it’s a waste.

Teen Wolf’s writing isn’t always the best, but it does a good job of flipping tropes around and exploring interesting concepts. Scott’s story isn’t a hero origin story: it’s a horror story where the victim becomes a hero in the end without losing his humanity. And fandom hates the idea of it, because fandom has been conditioned to believe a hero is only ever good if they embrace violence to the fullest.

[capricornsicle]

How to be a Scott McCall fan in 2023:

> log on to Tumblr

> search “Scott McCall”

> first post: I hate Scott so much. Idk why (you know why)

> second post: Scott is so selfish for (insert time he risked his life to save someone he owes less than nothing to)

> third post: Sterek gifset which has also been tagged #Scott McCall

> log off of Tumblr

[sees-writes]

Scott McCall’s face is so squishable and kissable, I just want to give him a lil smooch on the cheek and tell him he’s doing amazing

[liliaeth]

@bestialitybestiary Going to respond to your reply here instead of in reply to your post. Because it honestly had me baffled if you were actually paying attention or not.

@liliaeth I mean you're right, Scott was called out sometimes. But it somehow didn't feel as if he cared that much. It was sometimes said. Idk I feel like I have to reach for context every time I want to understand his emotions in the scene, because it's not clear. Idk if it's because of acting or directing. What I try to say is that because of those little things Scott may be perceived as ignorant or dumb, and it's a shame. I know he isn't. And I wish they portrayed his character with more care. I guess because of how they wrote/acted the character it was easy to see him as a bad friend, if someone wanted to see him that way. And it's a shame I wrote this post because I was wondering why Scott has such a bad rep in fandom. I love the guy

My main issue is this, of all the characters on the show, there were three characters who were called out on their mistakes the most.

There was Scott, there was Lydia and there was Derek. Which makes it no wonder that on the entire show, these three characters had the most character growth and development of any and all characters on the show.

Compare that to characters like say Stiles who was essentially static for six seasons, and had little to no character growth, because the show didn't dare to ever hold him accountable. Never made him feel remorse for how terribly he treated everyone around, him, and especially how badly Stiles treated the people he cared about, like Scott, like his father, like Lydia, like Malia...

(In fact the only time we see Stiles display any guilt over anything, it's to do with either the Nogitsune or Donovan, both of them cases where Stiles blames himself for things that are categorically not his fault. But when it comes to things that actually are Stiles' fault... things he actually did to personally wrong, it just gets ignored, and we see no reaction to it from Stiles, or any kind of him taking responsibility for it.)

But because Scott 'was' called out, and Stiles 'was not', people fell in the false notion that what Scott did was wrong, while Stiles behavior was 'just funny', or perfectly fine. Even though in most cases it was actually the opposite.

It's why people most often don't realize just how bad a friend Stiles was throughout most of the show.

See, you wrote that you felt Scott didn't care that much... and my instant reaction was 'did you miss the fact that he literally tried to kill himself out of guilt on three separate occasions?

In Frayed he is literally refusing to let himself heal, because he feels responsible over what happened to Derek.

And this is added on in Motel California, where he's already lit the torch, and thus is rid of most of the Darach's influence when he tries to put himself on fire, because he feels responsible for everything bad that's ever happened in their life since he was bitten.

And then in s5b, after Theo murdered him, it's Scott who takes responsibility for everything that went wrong, despite him being a victim, where once again, he won't let himself heal.

(all while the show refuses to let Stiles apologize or in any way take responsibility for listening to Theo and betraying the pack)

It's a recurring theme on the show, and with Scott that he's constantly taking responsibility for everything bad that happens around him, even and especially when it isn't his fault.

It's one of his main character traits, and this tendency to blame himself for everything that goes wrong, is probably one of his primary character flaws.

Like, it starts as early as in s1, when Stiles blames Scott for his father getting hit by a car in 'the Tell', when in Heart Monitor, he refuses to even talk to Scott, and Scott is desperately trying to make up for something that Scott had nothing to do with.

With Stiles blaming Scott for the 'werewolf crap coming into their life', despite Scott being the victim, and even going as far as Stiles abusing Scott with lacrosse balls, and getting him beaten up by seniors (risking said seniors' lives) just to punish Scott in false claim of it just being 'training)

I get that Stiles was just frustrated and worried about his father, which Scott knows as well, and is why Scott doesn't hold it against him. But with this added on to Scott's already existing tendency to take the blame for everything that goes wrong...

Scott could have refused, but instead he's blaming himself for these things, despite none of it being his fault... It's an ongoing character trait for Scott to do so.

I'm not saying the show was perfect, one of the main flaws the show had, esp. in regards to Scott, is that they went with the notion that Scott dealt with his suffering internally, and that the audience would see this as resilience. That he didn't lash out (outside of s1 when he's least in control of his instincts), and for the most part just dealt with it.

And directorial this lead to things like the show rarely if ever dealing with the horrors Scott went through. Even in the previouslies we rarely see a focus on what was done to Scott. Even Gerard torturing Scott with a knife in clear view in front of the hospital, and then threatening his Mom, is not mentioned in a single previously, no matter how relevant it would have been to do so...

Just like Melissa's horrified rejection of Scott in Fury is never once dealt with onscreen. Instead we get some mention of 'them being stronger now' in s3, when in reality what the show actually did was to stop having Melissa's behave like Scott's mother, and turning pretty much just into a mentor.

Where we see the sheriff putting his son first, and protecting his son at all cost, Melissa essentially stops doing so after Fury, and just starts putting expectations on him.

People ask why we keep bringing race into this, it's because in any other situation, where a white character's pain would be ignored in the show. (hell this is done plenty with Stiles even in tw fandom), fandom would then pick up the story in fanfic after fanfic...

But with Teen Wolf fandom, that does not happen.

Even Motel California, is more often made about Stiles, or Isaac, than it is made about Scott, a character who is clearly suicidal in canon.

And that would not be the case if Scott were white.

We constantly see fandom claim to hate Scott for traits that he either canonically does not have, faults, he canonically does not have, while ignoring the traits and flaws he does have, because they do not fit the narrative that people want the character or the show to be.

[g-taire]

“Is it a werewolf thing,” Scott asks Derek once, “to feel this lonely?”

Derek hesitates.

the fracture that never heals quite right by allyasavestheday | 5.3k | complete Scott and Derek through the years. for @lulujane

[plenaurum]

but honestly there needs to be a study on whatever the fuck THAT was with st*rek bc I have never seen such mass delusion like that before

[redmoonfever]

I love all TW characters but one of the things I hate about (all seasons but specifically) season 5 is Stiles getting pissed for Scott trusting Theo when Theo was manipulating him. Ever since Scott got bitten everyone around him (Derek, Argent, etc) have been manipulating him while forming trust between them. Nearly every single character has taught Scott that being manipulated is how he’s supposed to be treated, they’ve normalised it completely that of course he wouldn’t notice it.

I mean Derek (werewolf since birth) and Argent (who’s literal job is to deal with this stuff) keep weighing down Scott with all these issues and expecting him to constantly make the right decision despite the fact that he knows nothing about anything (because no one’s telling him) and he’s only a teenager! (And they’re grown adults)

And then people have the audacity to act like he’s stupid (Lydia and Kira when he’s in their AP biology class (I mean Lydia has the nerve to ask him if he knows what AP means)). They act like he’s an idiot but the second there’s a problem they expect him to immediately have the answer and solve it. They keep making him shoulder everything and then are shocked when he fails a class.

Moral of the story, no hate to the characters, they’re all trying, but Scott deserves better.

[thehollowprince]

So... I'm at work last night, and I got an alert from Reddit.

"What If... Scott wasn't present?"

Now, this isn't anything new. I remember quite vividly when someone in the fandom photoshopped Tyler Posey's head off of his own body and replaced it with Dylan's in the season three promotional pics. So this person photoshopping Scott out of the pictures altogether isnf unique. This isn't anything I haven't already seen before.

But it ticks me off that we're here, six years after the show ended, and twelve years after it first premiered, and people are still pulling this crap.

Here are the screen grabs.

That's my reply on the bottom.

And I stand by that.

Without Scott McCall, there was no Teen Wolf show. I have said this multiple times, and I will continue to say. But just in case it's not sinking in for some of you, let's break it down.

If Scott hadn't been present during the first season or there at all, the show would have ended within a few episodes. I highly doubt that Stiles would have gone out into the woods by himself to search for a dead body, but let's just say, for argument's sake, that he did. Then what? If we're following what happened in the show, just without Scott, then Sheriff Stilinski catches Stiles right off the bat. And with no Scott there, there's no one for Peter to bite.

Let's keep going.

Without Scott becoming a werewolf, Allison wouldn't have been dragged into the hunter's life for probably a few years. And without Scott's increase in physicality due to the Bite, Jackson's insecurities wouldn't have led to him wanting the Bite for himself. Goodbye entire Kanima plot.

Lydia's powers would probably never have been activated because the whole reason Peter bit her was to get Stilss to help him find Scott, who in this scenario, isn't here.

Derek would have been dead during Magic Bullet after Kate shot him with the wolfsbane bullet because there's no Scott to have a relationship with Allison to use said relationship to sneak into the house and get a bullet to heal him with.

If Peter didn't kill the Argents than the Argents would have killed Peter, which would have kept the Alpha Pack away. No Alpha Pack? No Darach committing human sacrifice to gain a power boost. No Darach? No ritual to awaken the Nemeton and subsequently no Nogitsune being released.

And so on and so forth.

Literally, everything on this show is traced back to Scott. You can't have Teen Wolf without him.

What this person meant to ask was, "What if we got rid of Scott and had Stiles be the hero instead?"

[raybyanothername]

Now that I have some distance from the Teen Wolf Movie, I've decided that my least favorite part was the character assassination of Scott.

1. Why is he not a vet?!?! He worked hard for that. He deserved that. He would have been an epic veterinarian! Why is he not explicitly Dr. McCall? Why is he not responding to 'are you an alpha?' with 'i'm a veterinarian' when our latest teen wolf asks the obvious question?!

2. Why is he in contact with no one but Deaton? This man lived and breathed pack relationships, okay. He literally went on a cross-state roadtrip with his currently estranged best friend on the possibility that he could bring back his possibly psycho fox girlfriend who left to protect them. But nah, he just left Beacon Hills 12 years ago and never calls his best friend or his beta.

3. Scott went out of his way to save his friends (including Derek) and his enemies. But he let Derek make the sacrifice play? In front of his son? Scott who's father left? Nah. Don't buy it. And he 100% wouldn't have taken Eli out of Beacon Hills in such an unlikely scenario either imo.

4. I know the point was Scallison, but would it have killed them to give Scalia a nod. Have them mention what happened? Have her ask his advice on Parrish maybe? We got the explanation for Stydia and Stiles wasn't even there.

If you're gonna give me lonely, isolated, and packless Scott McCall... you have to explain how he became that person because that was the exact opposite of how we left things.

[princeescaluswords]

Indisputably

@camelotpark I can't get over the idea that 'you can't be racist against Scott McCall unless you specifically declare you hate him for being Latino," while every reason these people give could be applied to their favorite white male character just as easily.

If you hate Scott McCall because he didn't realize Stiles was in trouble in the swimming pool during the Abomination (2x04) while he and Allison were trying to break into Gerard Argent's safe but you don't hate Stiles for almost shooting Scott in the head with a crossbow bolt in Venomous (2x05) or becoming MVP of the Lacrosse Championship while Scott was fighting for his life in the locker room in Battlefield (2x11), you might be racist.

If you hate Scott McCall because he told Derek that werewolf hunters might have a reason to hunt werewolves in Magic Bullet (1x04), but you don't hate Stiles when he told Derek that he killed Laura because he was jealous of her turning into a full wolf in Second Chance at First Line (1x02), you might be racist.

If you hate Scott McCall because he didn't put aside the trauma of being gassed to death by Victoria Argent for the crime of dating her daughter so he could tell Allison the truth and thus 'protect Derek's pack,' but you don't hate Derek for not putting aside his trauma and telling Scott about how Kate seduced him and thus 'protect Scott," you might be racist.

If you hate Scott McCall because he went with Deucalion rather than staying with Stiles in The Overlooked (3x10) because he didn't think he had any choice, but you don't hate Stiles for not telling Scott about Donovan when it first happened because Stiles didn't think he had any choice, you might be racist.

I could go on for like, an hour. All these events have context, but if your hatred of the lead protagonist is based on stripping these scenes of all context and all empathy, you might, just might be acting in a racist manner without consciously declaring that you are about to do that.

"I'm not racist unless I say I'm being racist" is not a logical argument.

[forestwaterfalls]

the most stupid stunt the stiles stilinski teen wolf fanbase ever pulled was making people think scott was a bad friend. give me one example of him Ever dismissing any of his friends and no you can’t include moments of battle or him telling his Visibly Unwell friends to go home and rest. or when theo was manipulating him.