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#so my conclusion is im just not made for intellectual shit
juuheizou · 3 years
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not to be egotistical but writing is such a case of 'love the product, hate the process' no matter what kind
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popatochisssp · 5 years
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So your recent chapter in snips and snails has had me thinking. How would other skellies react if their bro started falling for their SO? Would they all be up for polyamory or would some tell their bro to get over it, or they break up with SO as to push them toward their brother. This information is important for my daydreaming
Anonymous: Heyo! Are you doing hc’s right now? If so, what are your ideas for a polyamorous relationship with sans/so/papyrus? I know you mentioned it with FGTC, but how would the other boys do? Thank you and ilysm!!             
Well, the short version of these questions seems to be– “Can I make it work if I want to smooch both brothers?”
And the answer to that question as far as I’m concerned is yes! Ultimately, all skeles would be down for this kind of relationship!
…But some of them are going to have an easier road than others.
Yes, it’s the ‘fells that are on the Struggle Bus, of course it is, those boys have issues.
Undertale:
They’re a great combo!
They already know each other so well and love/respect one another that looping you into their relationship as a romantic branch is the easiest thing in the world.
They both balance the other out really well, to the point that dating them both might even make for a more harmonious relationship than choosing just one: Papyrus won’t shy away from lecturing Sans when his laziness may be letting you down, and Sans knows how to gently point out when Papyrus might be unintentionally talking over you or pushing too hard at something.
There’s no jealousy between them and you’re all grown, mature adults more than capable of navigating a three-person relationship.
Underswap:
Another great choice!
Much like the classic Sans-Papyrus pair, the Sky-Paps match-up isn’t just functional, it’s hyper-functional.
Their brotherly relationship is strong and they’re great at meeting and handling situations as a team, and you’re no different. Most of your time with them will be spent as a trio rather than duos with an odd man out since that’s what they do anyway– you’re just along for the ride! When one-on-one time does come around, they’ll pass you off to the other without hesitation, no jealousy to be found and just a nuzzle on your cheek and an encouragement to have fun.
Even the usually clingy Sky doesn’t mind giving you and Paps space when you want it since there’s no one he trusts and loves more than his (big) little brother, and Paps might actually feel a little more driven to impress and woo you when he sees the lengths Sky regularly goes to. Maybe he can’t one-up his big brother’s efforts, but it reminds him that you’re special and deserving of the attention and he’ll show you so in his own, more understated way.
They balance each other out in so many ways that it won’t ever feel like you’re trying to juggle them to make things work. As long as you love them, they’ll love you right back and your relationship is practically self-sustaining!
Underfell:
You must not be shy of challenges, because you’ve gotten yourself into some rocky waters with this one.
They’ll both agree to this pretty quickly without much fuss– sharing a datemate with their brother, the only person who always had their back underground and would die for them, and vice versa? Of course, there’s no one they’d rather trust you with than their own brother!
They say that, and for the most part they do mean it, but… there are some very well-buried landmines here and you will find at least one of them in the course of this relationship.
For Jasper, it’s bitterness: here’s yet another thing in his life that he’s giving up for his brother’s sake. It’s not Pyre he resents but the situation and how exceedingly unfair the circumstances of his life have been so far. He lost his childhood to raising and protecting Pyre while he was young, and then he had to play his toady and listen to barked orders and snapped insults so Pyre could maintain a fearsome reputation and neither of them would get too severely messed with. And then now here’s this, a datemate he can’t even keep all to himself because you love his baby brother, too. It stings, but he’ll try to quash it down since he loves you and Pyre too deeply to ever want to cause problems for you.
Meanwhile Pyre is masking his own issues, namely jealous insecurity. He loves Jasper, too, and he deeply respects the sacrifices his big brother made for him Underground both in adolescence and adulthood, but…well, it’s not as if he had it easy! Jasper’s initially low HP meant that no matter how strong a fighter he was, there’d always be somebody who saw him as easy EXP, somebody trying to kill them both because they could– that was why he worked his way up to Captain of the Royal Guard and trained so hard to become an efficient, deadly soldier, so that he could be intimidating enough that most monsters wouldn’t even want to try attacking him or somebody under his command. That’s why he had to distance himself from everyone else, even the brother he was trying to protect, just in case someone tried to take advantage of a social connection. He was completely emotionally isolated for a long time, with a lot weighing on his shoulders: his duties, his brother’s safety, his own safety, and Jasper…
Jasper didn’t have to shoulder any of that once Pyre took responsibility.
Pyre knows, intellectually, that Jasper suffered at least as bad for a long time, but emotionally it hurt and made Pyre a little angry to see him socializing freely with the lowlifes at Grillby’s and sleeping openly at his illegal hot-dog stands. Jasper couldn’t have been totally carefree, no one could be underground, but he had the luxury of being very close to it thanks to Pyre’s status, which Pyre maintained at his own expense. And now, it feels like Jasper is taking advantage of him again, casually charming his way into your good graces and seducing you away from him.
He’s fairly certain he’s going to lose you, actually, since he knows that his older brother is the more personable of the two of them and he hates the waiting, he kinda wants to just end it himself and let Jasper have you…
But, same as Jasper, Pyre loves both of you dearly and he knows that abruptly breaking up with you would hurt you, and that Jasper would figure out why he did it and be even more hurt plus guilty over it, so he bites his tongue.
They’re both going to stew in silence over it and are fully committed to doing so for the rest of your natural lives– you’re going to have to mediate this if you want to have any hope of a healthy relationship.
It won’t be too hard to figure out what’s going on with them individually, they’re both very salty skeletons that can mostly keep quiet about the things bugging them, but there’s a lot of snide and bitter quips muttered under their breath that you’re usually close enough to hear and draw conclusions from. At that point, you need to sit down with them and force a discussion; play whatever hard-ball you must to get them to talk, this is too important to sweep under the rug just because it’s awkward and painful.
They’ll be stilted at first and need a lot of prodding to keep going, embarrassed that their datemate is playing counselor for them, but soon enough they’ll start talking on their own. Yelling on their own. Screaming at each other and breaking shit on their own.
They’ve been repressing a lot of emotions for a long time and now that they’re flowing it’s like a tsunami, one you should probably get out of the splash zone of while they get it all out.
You don’t have to worry about them actually hurting each other, there’s far too much love between them for that and once the anger and bitterness is out there in the open, they realize that, too. There’s gonna be tears and broken sobs and fierce hugging and that’s your cue to get back on in there and take care of your boys– they love each other, they love you, and you love them right back, it doesn’t have to be any more complicated than that.
Once the dust is settled, you’re theirs for life, no take-backs. You came into their home, showed them love and affection, and helped them get their brother back after years of tension and walking on eggshells: if you think they’re ever going to let you go now, you’re dead-wrong.
There’s going to be days when you almost regret emotionally reconciling them because when they’re not bickering over petty nonsense or competing with each other, they are the most terrifyingly efficient team you’ve ever seen. They’ll casually join forces against you whenever it suits them and you don’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell. They love and respect you of course, they’d never hurt or take advantage of you, but the combined force of Jasper’s rough charm and Pyre’s slick cunning means that you’re not often going to find yourself ‘winning’ in your relationship.
On the bright side, your romantic life is positively scorching between these two fiery personalities and the loving passion they have for you is more than enough of a balm on any wounds you might take to your pride. ;3
Swapfell:
Deceptively easy.
At first, they’re both very excited and on-board for this. As far as they’re concerned, there’s no one better in the world to share their datemate with than their own brother, someone trustworthy that they love unconditionally and don’t have to worry about losing you to, since they obviously wouldn’t try to steal you from each other.
And that’s true, because if there’s a problem it won’t be something they did, it’ll be what you did. Or maybe more accurately, what you didn’t do.
There’s really only one way to screw this up, but it’s a hard and fast death sentence for the relationship if you start neglecting Rus or playing favorites with Mal instead.
Rus is a needy guy, not too prone to jealousy but very prone to insecurity when the conditions are right, and Mal is one of the hardest (albeit unintentional) hitter of those buttons. His big brother, the one who’s taken care of him his whole life, protected him and sacrificed for him, Rus thinks Mal is a really cool guy. He’s not surprised at all that you want to date him, but he is surprised that you want to date Mal’s living disaster of a brother, too.
If you’re not careful and spend too much time with Mal or side with him all the time or do anything that could indicate you have a significant preference for one brother over the other, Rus is probably gonna jump to some conclusions and now it makes sense to him why you’re not just dating his brother– it’s ‘cause it’s a pity thing…isn’t it?
Mal is the one you really want  but you or Mal or maybe both of you noticed his pathetic interest in you and decided to toss him a bone. To make him feel better. Yaaaay.
His aversion to conflict means that he’s definitely never going to say anything to either of you, ever, but his 'realization’ (whether it’s true or not, almost certainly not) is painful and he won’t be able to help sulking and shying away from your affection for awhile.
That, for Mal, is as good as an actual, physical red flag. He’s sharp and knows his brother well enough to piece together everything that’s happened in Rus’ self-deprecating skull and as far as he’s concerned, there’s only one course of action from here: he’s gonna try to wriggle himself out of the relationship entirely and push you towards Rus.
Mal loves his baby brother fiercely and since he already blames his failings as a pseudo-parent for the anxiety and insecurity he struggles with, the absolute last thing he wants to do is hurt him by taking his datemate away. It’s a no-brainer to remove himself from the situation if he’s distracting you from Rus, but once it’s progressed to this point, there’s no positive outcome for anyone.
Rus is now convinced he’s the pity-boyfriend and feels awful that you don’t get to be with Mal anymore because he couldn’t hide his dumb feelings better. Mal is upset that he can’t be with you, and a little upset with you for not loving his little brother enough to begin with and making this choice necessary. And of course, you’re gonna be hurting, too, because one of your boyfriends thinks he’s your consolation prize and the other isn’t even your boyfriend anymore.
But of course, that’s the Worst Case Scenario.
To make this work, you just need to be fair about sharing your time and affection, which in healthy polyamory, you should probably already be doing! But if for some reason, you can’t do that, skew slightly in Rus’ favor. Mal can be jealous and selfish but he’s more than willing to make room for his brother’s happiness, and he knows that he’s welcome to edge into yours and Rus’ time together if he really wants– Rus has no problems sharing, he just gets a little upset if he thinks he’s the second choice.
If you put in the time and effort to assure Rus that you’re dating him because you care about him, this actually becomes one of the easiest bro-combos possible. Mal and Rus have a less contentious relationship than the other ‘fell brothers and with less buried anger and bitterness between them their bond is already strong and relatively healthy when you enter the mix.
Your integration is like finding the perfect centerpiece to tie an already-stylish room together. Mal plans all the dates and budgets your time between them in the most efficient way possible, while Rus makes sure you and him still get some time to relax and screw around at home. They work very well together as brothers and as your co-boyfriends with about equal importance placed on each role, so you’ll feel nothing but cherished and wanted between the two of them. Make sure to return the favor!
Horrortale:
Yes, a fantastic idea!
They’re both delighted that you asked and agree to share you pretty much immediately, without even a little fuss.
Slate and Papy are arguably the most codependent of the brothers (understandably, considering their shared trauma of the famine) and they’re also probably the most emotionally open with one another as a result, so if a poly relationship seems like it’s becoming a possibility with you, they’re going to get everything talked out and openly agreed upon for a very smooth transition.
It’s actually…kind of an ideal situation for both of them, in a way? Their issues and insecurities are…well, there’s a good deal of them and they’re both a tad concerned that the weight of it might be too much for you alone. They don’t want to overwhelm you or put too much pressure on you just because they’re a little… ‘broken’ is the wrong word for it, but they’re far from undamaged, either!
But with the other brother in the mix, the same one who’s always been there to support his sibling even before you came along, so much of that pressure is taken off.
Slate doesn’t worry that you’re going to suffer from his dissociation and memory problems because he knows Papy is there with his sharp mind and attention to detail to pick up the slack. Likewise, Papy doesn’t worry quite so much on his bad days that you’re secretly unhappy or would be better off without him because Slate is around, who even with a hole in his skull is naturally charming and very skilled at reading people– if you had any complaints, Slate would know and pass them along so they could make you as content as possible!
The end result is that they both relax and don’t psych themselves out quite as much as they might without their brother, and you get to see them as close to their old, pre-horror selves as they can get. Papy is a little more confident and Slate jokes around more and they both treat you like you make the sun rise every morning because you’re the one that loves them both enough to let this relationship be a thing they can have and that’s so cool.
There’s not a drop of jealousy over you from either of them, especially when they can see first-hand that you’re making their brother as happy as you make them, so this is a pretty harmonious and loving match-up, with a lot of potential for success!
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uayv · 5 years
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its almost the end of love month so before it ends lets get down and dirty in love love love. you can thank neo (@breaudelaire) captain of mister kwon hyuk’s love ship and the lady that supports my love for a noodle like no other. lets see how this goes cause oh boy am i bad at articulating affection.
who is your bias: the al dente noodle, the #1 gummy smile, kim dongyoung
what made you notice him: oooh dang im actually not totally sure????? mightve been a vlive or a lil vroomvroom???? whatever it was thank the dear gods that i did notice him.
what is your favourite thing about him: this gon sound cheesy but his BIG THICC ASS CARING HEART. he’s always so considerate and warm to the ones he loves. you can see it in the relationships he has with all the members and also in the close relationships he has with gongmyung. no matter what, he tries to show love and support and its just so heart warming. also he isnt afraid to cut the bs. like he isnt afraid to call people out to protect the dreamies or like he hella doesnt give a shit about being nice and just bitch stares the freaky sasaengs. oh also its so endearing the way he always steps up to be like class prez intellectual. oh also also remember that vlive when someone sent in a question about their crush and straight up said like “oh it could be a boy and girl or a boy and boy or a girl and girl”. oh also also when he just bein a snarky lil shit its cute :( OH ALSO ALSO ALSO him cheeks and that wonderfully cute gummy smile of his that literally makes my heart pit pat like a mothefucker having a heart attack.
who would initiate skinship more: tbh probably not me. like im really only mildly touchy with close friends and when it happens i dont even know that its happening cause its pretty mindlessly touchy and i dont even think its all the time but i feel like doyoung would be way more likely to initiate???
who would hog the blankets more: we wouldnt. there would be two blankets or we’d just buy an extra large one. jk our braincells would probably reach that conclusion only after an intense session of tug-of-war.
who would be more clingy: yo you didnt hear it from me but lowkey moi.
who would say ‘i love you’ first: oh frick man id definitely be the dumbass to think about it for too long and be too nervous and then just accidentally let it roll outta my dumb ass mouth.
who would be more easily flustered: ohahahah probably me. i just get easily flustered anyways and he’d probably get the kicks outta seeing my flustered.
what cuddling position would you two have: he could put me in a headlock and i would call it a cuddle. probably just lazily hugging or with his head in my lap
which colors remind you of them: oh that dusty light blue! like the one of him in that big hoodie!
which season would you like to spend with them: ermhhh i wanna say winter cause the cuddle and the snuggles/we’re just lazy home bodies that like to stay loafing anyways; but he doesnt love that dry dry weather for his throat so maybe spring! when the weather warms up and the humidity comes back. we can go on dates to the park, coffee shop dates, explore markets, or tbh just be lazy at home again lmao
who would bake cookies and who would steal the batter: bro we dont do salmonella in this household. (its me. my dumbass would taste it and then challenge him to live a little)
ill cupid love arrow shoot 💘💘 @chrlsbang @shuuvee @svtnz @6ondry @godoyoung @ks0o @nakamoto @wooziwish to spread a lil love and be mashed potato mushy soft for your favs.
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freunwol · 6 years
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theory: freud is chronica is evan??
and this isnt just desperation i have proof
warning this is long as balls
Transcendent related
His disdain for transcendents not barring him from using time magic to seal off travelling prior to that point, which would require him to call upon Rhinne….unless he can do it himself.
Some transcendents reincarnate. *some.* And none of the ones we know of now do that, to our knowledge. So why would they just throw that tidbit in if it’s not relevant? Coughevancough. (relevance explained in heroes section*)
Freud was able to regain a memory that there was a sixth hero. Luminous, the one who is part transcendent, did not. Black Mage remembers Eun because, in his words, he is a transcendent. It’s possible that it is in fact because he made up the plan, but you think you’d remember almost giving up your entire existence for a spell, Lumi? And then suddenly not having to?
Of course there’s the possibility that Lumi’s lying about forgetting or that BM was lying about remembering because of transcendence but that’s a whole other can of worms…
I’m not discrediting him making the plan playing into this though, it could contribute and that’s why Freud remembered and not Luminous The Fragment Of The Transcendent That Remembers
Hero related
Prior to Heroes of Maple trying to make Eun’s situation into a curse, he was fully erased from history. Not only from memories, but from the physical situation of existence, given that he is erased from photographs and any trace of him left behind is erased as well. This is different from a curse, and even with Lucid’s help, Black Mage likely wouldn’t be able to literally obfuscate the past. Time powers could, and if Freud were Chronica his spell would be directly related to time.
Plus it is already, since it stopped anyone from travelling prior to that point.
If that were the case, wouldn’t this make recovering Eun’s existence next to impossible since you can’t change anything relating to the past anymore?
Even making it a curse it’s applicable, if just an extremely powerful curse. I can’t quite logic this part to much beyond pure speculation, but I do think that Freud had much more to do with the effects of this, considering that it was his spell.
Freud said himself that he remembered that there were six heroes since he himself designed the sealing spell!
*Relating to Evan and reincarnation. It’s an obvious conclusion to make that Evan is his reincarnation given that they look alike. It’s made more obvious by a direct connection that Evan does have to Freud- through Mir. Mir was Afrien’s egg, and thus probably(/definitelycuzalltheotheronyxdragonsgotmurdered) his child, and was intended to reinstate the soul bond. A reincarnation and the son of the guy who had a soul bond with the prior incarnation, it makes too much sense to be a coincidence and literally everyone knows it.
Lumi cited Freud as his intellectual match, and the only person ever to be such.
Mirror World related
This one goes in a few different places, so bear with me. In the Zero storyline, Alpha finds the transcript explaining transcendents that states that Rhinne and Alicia were “content in their roles”, and that Black Mage was not and begun chaos because of this. We know for a fact now that Black Mage was not content, not only as a transcendent but as a pawn of whatever greater power exists in Maple World. His methods are of course horrible and he’s the worst yadda yadda but he’s fighting against the system- something Freud is hinted at considering, from his conversation with Lumi. It would make for an interesting perspective, given that he himself is a transcendent, but then it could be that he feels guilty that the transcendence system is causing so much pain and suffering for the world he loves so much, and the only way for it to work is if all three are “content in their roles”, something they are not likely to be.
This is speculation, but it could make sense- could repeated interaction with humans and a closer connection to the world make a transcendent less “content”? We know that White Mage’s intentions were, originally, for the good of the world, trying to reform it into something peaceful, that eventually was corrupted. We also know that Alicia is supremely disconnected from humanity, seeing them as lesser than the other creatures and much worse. This disconnect could make her more content with her existence, with less curiosity regarding humans and the inner workings of the world and more focus on the other creatures. (This may intersect with information about Darmoor, since he’s both the transcendent of life and ruler of the lef he may have gotten too immersed in their life and gotten “discontent?”) Freud, loving Maple world, could have reincarnated himself as a human to learn more about humanity, and is growing discontent with the roles of transcendents seeing its effects as an insider as well as an outsider?
(This is kinda starting to sound like a Jesus thing, being born as a human but also still divine and knowing human pain and all that shit… I’ve jokingly compared him to Jesus before but this is ridiculous if true oh my god this would be the funniest thing if I’m right about any of this FREUD IS JESUS)
BACK TO MIRROR WORLD why was Freud in mirror world if he’s dead? And of all people that we know of? Sure, Phantom and Evan are there, but both of them are connected to those places in some way- Evan grew up in Henesys, and Phantom probably grew up in Ariant. And both are alive. As is everyone else we see in mirror world, younger or older or whatever. So why the fuck is Freud there? We also know for sure that it is in fact all based on the present day since there’s nobody from the past and Leafre isn’t full of demons (used to be demon land but they were forced out…) so why, out of everyone there, is Freud there if he’s dead?
Bit anecdotal, but they did have Freud there in the section where they introduced the idea of relics that help wield the power of the transcendents, and we got Lapis and Lazuli from this.
Could the Freud’s Journal quest somehow be slightly related to this? It’s a stretch, but the ring could be some kind of relic, since restoring it gives you a lil fairy kinda similar to Lapis & Lazuli…
This is a real reach, but in the Mirror World, the chief of Leafre called Freud an explorer, which is what Sugar was before it was revealed she was the spirit of Maple World or whatever…
Speaking of Sugar, do seal stones work into this? I doubt it a little, since you *need* five other people and he likely had those five other people...But then again, that’s quite a fantastic invention to realize how to make… I’m not sure.
Meta
Freud was very conveniently unconscious during the Silent Crusade storyline fighting Arkarium. If he were awake, would he have said something, especially considering your character is time travelling? Would he have known?
In Eun’s storyline, Athena breaks the “news of Freud’s death” to him by saying that it’s been centuries and Freud wasn’t frozen, and he was “only human.” That would be a nice bit of irony, imo.
Other
THEY’RE BOTH MISSING…
We do know that Chronica is a guy, so there’s no conflict there. If reincarnation were a factor any conflict regarding that would be questionable anyway.
This bleeds more into speculation, but I feel like it needs to be pointed out- the little boy from the Black Mage comic series that gave White Mage the coin looked like Freud, if only a little bit. It’s likely a stretch, but wouldn’t that give a rather solid human motivation? He obviously looked up to him so much, since he did save his family and town, and vowed to become a great mage like him. If he heard news that his idol and savior turned to evil, wouldn’t that be a motivating force to be wary of the transcendent system, if only the impetus and not the full reason?
Not entirely related, but would this have led to a strained relationship with Lumi? D:
His connection to dragons, given that Nova is, largely, dragon people, would be solidified a bit.
Purely Anecdotal
Freud is WAY too powerful to just be A Really Good Mage.
He has a very strong love for all life and everything in Maple World, which sounds so blindly encompassing and positive that only a transcendent or a blithering idiot would hold that love, and Freud is no idiot probably.
Rhinne can see the future of all worlds aside from her own, according to the Zero storyline. I’m unsure if there’s a connection here, but I feel like it’s worth mentioning in case I’m forgetting something that does relate to Freud.
It’s probably possible that more than one incarnation or version of them could exist at the same time, given Tana. (I don’t actually know anything about her story I just know she has a light and a dark self and that she’s Nova’s light transcendent…)
This is pretty hard to prove, but I noticed this a while ago- in the Dragon decal that Freud has in the Freud’s Journal questline, it’s a pretty simple dragon design- which, if you draw a line diagonally through it, looks like an hourglass. They did change his decal to what Evan has, which looks pretty much nothing like an hourglass, but the connection was there and was possible.
The little wing thing on Evan’s updated art makes a connection possible but it’s such a stretch I’m hesitant to really entertain the thought...
sorry this is so long and also so much longer than when i last posted anything abt it but like. im thinking a mile a minute here i feel like if nexon wasnt lazy i could be on to something
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Age but a number Does anyone honestly believe that?  Or is it just an out dated exprression, One used by us kids Leaves us sepeerated by age  Lost and in decension.
I don't mean to sound contrived,
I just want to be heard,
Judge me for whats inside,
not how many years i've been on this earth,
I know life experience is important,
if thy jealous of my youth,
whyy must this  number feel like such a burden,
Call me a know it all, but cant deny my logic or tell me  im wrong never o old to staart learnin,
As a human, just like you, I too, would like to get a word in dude,
Its not to be rude,
It's not my attitude,
Word for thought is my  thing,
It inriches me as much or morre than my food,
Don't jump to conclusions about my intended intentions,
Your haard headed-ness batters me; leaving contusions, if your so wounded excuse yourself and mend it, don't put me down and then a second later give me honorable mentions.
Hypocrisy and inconsistency, just vain humanic inventions.
Don't throw out advicee you can't adhere,
take a step back; take a breathe and look in the mirror.
I'm not out for praise or that or the other,
whatever you say loses weight when you act a fool my brother,
So go ahead,
Look at me with that lecherous leer,
looking so lasciviously into me, my soul and my character,
why are you soso threatened by a 20 year old wanna-be?
I mean that's what i get, what i infer from the verbiage you throw out after i interrupt to contribute, I mean no offense kind sir, don’ get so worked up about somethign so minute.
 I explain my train of tthought, when my input seems not to be understood,
I wwant you tto see  my proccess, explain how i got there, i might interrupt alot..
I would rather be seen as unmannerly, than not be understood, meh call it my vanity.
Call it egotisticall, call it what you want,
Don't bitch when i interrupt when you do the same to me,
You get a free pass? is that because of your age?
It doesnt make me respect you, you just seem like an ass, let me talk too, i'd love to debate,
That means share the conversation, don't ssit there and get madd when i but in to correct i can't stand misguided information,
I don't do it to act like i'm above it all,
I live to learn,
in the deep dark night i heard its call,
With the interest  within,
Armed with a killer memory,
Things i comprehend and see visually, seem to stick around and i dont appreciate whats being said to me.
You act like I'm some stubborn kid, Don't be threatened i'm not heere to take the spotlight,
Don't invite me to intellectual conversations, that only leads to afight
and do what you did,
I'd rather not, i'll wrap up my gift my wonderful blessing,
I can keep my opinions to myself if it will lead to conflict,
Creating streess over bullshit, don't answer my last question,
obviously rhetoric,
But go ahead,
Give it your best shot,
I'll bite my tounge and you can rant dog,
Expect me to submit? fine
I'd rather not fight you, you seem frail , body and mind , for yall whoo dont know.. thats additon,
1 + 1= ???
2
That's right.
Yolu see the difference?
inputting specific knowledge, pertaining to the conversation athand
Or explaining my anylisis for betteror not,
I am human too, I deserve my say just like you.
Any waay I'm not in to any of that fighting shit
Like a battery i seem to be possitve but your negative,
In this case we do not attract, these oopposites shoot a more literal truth, so far from a bond thats conductive,
I am done, this is a waste of time,
Needed to rwrite something down, work out my perspective.
In ay casse none of it matters, its all relative.
Keep it professional
Lets work and get paid
No malicious intentent, all "disrespect' is un intentional.
Your pig headed-ness will hopefully fade,
Not gonna keep my hopes up, lost cause; your mind is all but made,
So take this for what it is,
The scatter brained thoughts of a wet eared youngin,
It's childdish anyways right? must be, oh wait my words have sunk in?
I can't respect someone with that nature,
Lostt my cares, that was an ugly visual.
Very offensive, must be my  puberic hormones , or an efffect from the above mention, just showed up late
Forgot I was 12 again, 
or justyou think its just aresiddual extension? hah
Deuce.  
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sweetveins · 5 years
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so fellas, felladies and nonfellanaries of the tumblrverse i really got into it in the comments section of ContraPoint’s lovely video simply entitled “Transtrenders” if you don’t know about Natalie you may be alarmed but i highly recommend giving the video a watch because as a big black genderfuck it was a much appreciated measured response to the toxic bullshit we’ve all seen oozing out of the truscum community. i wanted to just post my response to a comment that really struck me as unsettling and really just rattle on about gender shit so suck my theydick General TW for transphobia and nbphobia for the following
to summarize the general thread leading up to me popping off, it began as someone saying that they were glad the portrayal of a nonbinary individual in the video wasn’t a portrayal that was “vapid” and “stupid” the thread strays however when the discussion begins about the nb people who are perceived as vapid and stupid have allegedly made themselves the stereotypical voice of nb community. responses expectedly were along the lines of the unfairness to generalize an entire community based off of some perhaps more unsavory nonbinary content and thus, the great adversary arrives Youtube User: Tom Sawyer’s Left Nut
“yes. It does go for any group ever. That's the whole thing about stereotyping. If people see only the videos online of stupid transtrender nb people, they'll begin to think that most, if not all, act like that. It's all they know about them so why would they think any differently? "It's unfair" but happens to everyone ever. No one can stop people from holding opinions on others, even if those opinions are blatantly false or hurtful. What they base their opinions on is just what they can see, if they don't see any decent nb people then no one can really do anything about that.” thus begins, my response:
but i doubt that you'd stand for this kind of "thats just how it is" mindset with say a racial group or economic class would you Left Nut. the whole point of movements meant to uplift minority groups is to break these same stereotypes. back in the day when the dominant white media caricature of the black man or black woman was stupid ugly watermelon obsessed monkeys im sure there were plenty of people in the black community who recognized this was unfair but had the same response to shrug their shoulders and say "that's how it is." despite the fact that this should be *further* motivation to *change* such a narrative. now we have a future where conditions for black people are significantly improved (though could certainly be better) BECAUSE of those who were outspoken and challenged this unfairness and were brave enough to band together and say "this is an unfair representation of who i am and i wont stand for it" i understand what you're probably thinking "but comment bitch, black people didn't make that caricature of themselves, the white people did. the stupid nb gender fucks have made themselves the prominent voice." id argue that in a lot of ways they they haven't.
suppose that you're an nb youtuber who has already done the long period of self reflection and questioning to come to the conclusions you've reached about your gender at this moment and you want to provide other questioning and nb people with the support they may not have. like justine touched on you've accepted that gender identity isn't the most logical thing in the world. though it leaves you intellectually vulnerable you set up your lil webcam, play that royalty-free ukelele intro and don't go very far into the proving you're valid thing, because for you the logical gymnastics of validity have already proven futile. your message is going to appear vapid and stupid to someone whos is waiting for you to 'prove' that you're real and valid via logic and reason, especially when they wrongfully appoint you as the figurehead of the entire nb community because you're their first source. and the more you respond and the more upset you become that your message has been flipped on its head, the more hysterical and triggered of an sjw you appear to be. unless you are constantly equipped with facts like historical nonbinary identities and studies surrounding nb, you're going to come off as vapid and stupid. but the same could also be said about a black person confronted with a white nationalist convinced the u.s should be an ethnostate. would you require every black person to come equipped with studies regarding the myth of black on black crime, studies that prove black people are more commonly arrested for doing the same crime as white people? is that the only way a black person's response can avoid being vapid and stupid sounding when they just leave it at "no you're wrong" ? im not saying that nb people shouldnt be informed. what i am saying is that reacting to a few bad argument as a representation of a whole issue doesn't mean there isn't a good argument out there given proper research. research that cis people and binary trans people can do on their own time instead of harassing every nb for answers. especially when even the well equipped genderfuck with practiced talking points may note ever be enough for cis people going into a conversation with intent to simply harass and attack helicopter them
 nbphobia actually reminds a lot of biphobia when gays and lesbians were (some still are unfortunately) willing to harass bi people with "you're either one or the other" "just admit you're really just straight" sentiments bi people said "but actually im not. im bi and thats just how i am"  sexuality is as much of an abstract weird mess as gender but we've come to a point of acceptance that we don't scoff when someone says they're bi or call them gay traitors or that they speak over the "real gays" they're part of the community like any other non-heterosexual identity
i warned you, i really went off. but the length of my response ought to speak to the kind of long winded intellectual gymnastics expected of queer people to logically explain the often irrational, complex nature of things like attraction sexuality and identity. and it breaks my heart that in this community there are people willing to perpetuate that mindset with anything they don’t fully understand- looking at you if it wasn’t obvious TERFs and truscum and nbphobes. 
thank you for coming to my ted talk uwu 
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the only reason i even like this ugly fkn cunt is because we’re so similar. or at least were, he’s grown a bit more than me so i obviously appreciate his help and experience and knowlege or whatever.
but fuck him in the fucking asshole, not only is he a white man, not only does he get triggered by ”i hate whites/men” and ”ppl listen to u cus ur a white man” and takes it SUPER PERSONALLY and accuse me of fucking attacking him and shit. hes acting like a fucking dick when we’re fighting and the thing is……. HE REFUSES to admit when i say we’re similar in the way we fight??? he’s like ”no, im not” and im like YES BITCH YOU ARE YOU’RE ACTING LIKE A FUCKING CHILD
he’s so fucking aggressive, manipulative, guilt tripping and just…. COLD. i swear what the fuck is wrong with him? i’ve met him 3 times, and we’ve fought 2 times. ive known him for like 2 weeks and we’ve already had 2 major fights??
the only reason im not fucking murdering him on the spot is because 1. im not a fucking idiot. i know my limits. i CANT control him, i CANT manipulate him. i dont have any power over him and 2. i fucking like him?? if i dont apologize he’s going to go on for fucking ever and eternity??? i like him and im actually genuinely sorry that he’s hurt even if he’s a fucking pussy who got triggered over smth as petty
like excuse ME!! the way he fights is REALLY triggering for me??? the first time i was terrified. it was like flashbacks and shit i cried for a whole day and i hadn’t even met him back then. i was SO SCARED and SO SHOCKED. because IT IS I who usually have his position. it is I who usually put people in their places, NOT the other way around. i HATE being scolded, feeling like a worthless little piece of shit
i knew that i should’ve blocked his ass because that can really be SO damaging to me. also there’s a risk im goong to explode as well and we’re just gonna trigger each other and fight to death…. but i didnt because i was too god damn curious of what he had to offer. is it really possible for me to be happy as well? is it really possible for me to heal and grow like him? ERHM well obviously he’s not in his ”complete form” yet, fucking psycho when he get angry, but he’s pretty happy and kind and positive generally
i worried so much about me draining him with my anxiety and issues but he said he wouldnt let me drain him. he said he always put himself first and the he basically would leave if i try to pull anything on him. why the fuck did i even worry about him when he’s trying to manipulate and guilt trip me?? I AM SO PISSED. HE REALLY TRIED TO DO THAT THAT STUPID MOTHERFUCKER.
during our first fight it worked because i was SO SHOCKED, as i said. and i was SCARED. but fuck him in the asshole he really- he really tried to FUCKING DO THAT TO ME
he accuses me of being disrespectful of his limits when he goes fucking bananas, everythings happening so fast i cant even process what just happen, i dont even have the time to apologize cus hes all over and everywhere. and he’s so fucking threatening. he’s like ”if you dont…..” and he doesnt realize what the fuck he’s doing?? i apologize because 1. i hate these fights and 2. i like him i dont want to hurt him but he’s like ”i have nothing to apologize for”
STUPID FUCKING CUNTBAG YOUR UGLY TECHNIQUES ARE WAY OVER MY LIMITS, YOURE DISRESPECTING ME 101919X MORE THAN I EVER DISREPSEXTED U BY CALLING U A WHITE MAN.
(also can we talk abt how this motherfucker understabds that whites and men are privileged but he still doesnt get why reverse oppression isnt a thing and that it is GROUPS that are privileged and NOT individuals??? like he’s that fucking dumb)
that shit actually HURT!!!! i think he’s really immature during fights, i think he’s really fucking pathetic and i’m glad i’ve come to that conclusion rather than beating myself up. yes, i now understand that this is probably what it feels like for the counterpart when im fighting with them and im fuckig sorry that im acting like this psycho
BUT!!!!!! what really HURT was that he HONESTLY TRIED TO MANIPULATE ME. if i hadn’t called his ass out this time he would have gotten away with it AGAIN
bitch, he’s fucking 23 years old. he’s 4 years older than me. he also KNOWS!!!!!! i have a stupid crush on him and he STILL!!!!! TRIED TO GUILT TRIP ME, TRIED TO MAKE ME OBEY AND SUBMIT TO HIM, GET DOWN ON MY KNEES AND BEG
im so pissed and a part of me wish i would just have exploded but i couldnt because it was fucking 1 am and my family was asleep and i couldnt fucking shout at someone over the phone. also it actually made me feel a bit superior and mature when i was all calm and he still was upset (even though he wouldnt admit it, stupid proud brat. his voice changes distinctly). okay YES, i MAY have patronized him a little but also NOT!!! i was just really tired and sad and i still liked him so like….. i was just upset and trying to calm him down
its kind of hilarious how i had to tell him to stop sounding so aggressive and he was like ”im not” and i was like ”yes you are” and so he actually KIND OF stopped and it was easier to talk to him. wow i feel so powerful lmao. omg in really not any better than him am i? i know im not because no matter how much he denies it…….. im literally exactly the same when i fight 😔😔 i tell myself i wasnt like that because i didnt WANT to, because i want to be MATURE but a part of me honestly thinks its just me knowing my place. i like him more than the likes me, he can use that to his advantage, there was no reason or possibility for me to dominate him.
im still very pissed though and just because i like him i still REFUSE to follow him like a little puppy. ive been so worried ALL this time that i wouldnt be able to keep up with him intellectually, that he was too good for me, too smart and too kind. PFFFFFFFT!!! im sorry but i swear i was just idealizing him or smth. its his fucking voice and scent, its like a drug it makes me all calm and dizzy but objectively…. dont fucking let him manipulate you. if he ever makes you feel like yo should apologize and that tou did wrong, ask yourself WHY. an east escape is not the right answer. call him the fuck out. i think and hope he avtually would appreciate it as well……. even though he’s so fucking stubborn and proud OMG HES SO PROUD I CANT, I AM PROUD TOO BUT NOT TO HIM. or maybe a little since i now refuse to fucking message him, maybe a little bit manipulative but no, im still mad, the way he acted lady night was fucked up. why does he have to be so proud with ME???? is it because he doesnt feel as emotionally connected to me as i do? yeah probably
that stupid motherufcker…. when i told him ”instead of threatening me that you’re gonna hung up if i dont ’respect’ aka BEHAVE accordingly…. you could just say ’hey im not comfortable talking right now, i need to hung up’ AND HE WAS LIKE ”but we’re not that close-/but we’re not that emotionally-” or something like that and i was like……. is this dipshit clown really serious?? ”uhhh its more like COMMON SENSE AND RESPECT” and he was like ”yeah maybe…” YEAH MAYBE? NO YOU KNOW IM FUCKING RIGHT
god that piece of shit really thinks he has me wrapped around his finger or something. im attracted to him but what he doesnt understand is that he’s still a plain white man. he had NO IDEA how much im controlling myself by even letting myself fall for a white man. does he really think he can like…. i sont know?? i fucking asked him. because i said ”i dont demand or threaten you” and he was like yeah i know. and i was like woahhh…. wait a second….. ”do you think i dont because i like you? do you think i would just follow you whatever?” and he was like ”im not gonna answer that”
oh my god he really thought didnt he. stupid ass white boy really thought i would choose him over myself or any of my siblings of color. smh poor jack.
im going nuts. okay…. if he EVER pulls something like this again i wont be so sure i’ll be able to handle this on a mature level. the worst thing is though that i HAVE TO. because even when i DO, he’s so fucking ptronizing. like te WHITE MAN just jumped out???? if i were to lose my shit……. ITS SI FRUSTRATING AND ITS EXACTLY WHY I CANT BE WITH A WHITE MAN. i was avtually very fucking calm and he STILL managed to make me feel like i was the ”bad guy”.
ughhhh im fucking insane. this…… whatever the fuck our relationship is cus this boy is apprently only interested in me what the fuck that now even means?? okay so we can like hang out and be physical and cuddle and shit but we’re not a couple and its NOT limited to being exclusively us. apparebtly i should still feel flattered though?? cus he doesnt find anyone attractive and he needs some sort of chemistry??? im sorry boy but i am NOT flattered. you do you, i get it, it takes time for you to fall in love with someone but im obviously still much more emotionally invested. that not your fault. thats my problem. my abandonment and attatchment issues. honestly im so fucked i cant even differ my feelings. my feelings for him are strong but idk what they are. some days i feel like platonic friendship, other days an older brother, a romantic partner and sometimes even a dad/parental figure. like im that fucked up i just need a STRONG BOND i dont care what
i low key hate myself for how i ended the call yesterday. thanks to that, now i cant bring this up again. its too late. the fight is ”over”. i was like ”i still like u bye goodnight sweet dreams” but now im like ”i hate u ugly bitch”.
god my head
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yesheavensent-blog · 6 years
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2014
The depression from 2013 carried into 2014 as I was broke and living at my parents. I had to sell my civic which I loved so much and was now driving a piece of shit corolla. Hey it got me from point A to point B though. Something very sad happened around this time. My grandpa James Kranz passed away. Grandpa Kranz was such an amazing person. He followed my poker career closer than anyone. He even made a binder full of all the times my name was in print. I remember the first time he gave me the binder and let me see all the pages and I was in tears. When you’re traveling the world, jet-setting from place to place you sometimes forget the accomplishments you achieve. Especially when I was hyper focused on winning and would finish a disappointing 5th place. That binder which I still have was a reminder that I accomplished a lot. 
Grandpa Kranz had a very positive impact on my life and when he passed away he left me $10k. With that money, I moved out of my parents' house and into an apartment in Cuyahoga Falls. When I moved I thought I’d escape all the hijacked conversations. I had gotten into huge fights with my parents and I now realize it wasn’t their fault, they were being told what to say to me, etc. I blamed them also because I leaked personal information to my mom via email once and I figured she told everyone. That’s why I was so pissed at my parents. I love them and I’m very sorry for any misdirected anger. I now realize the anger should’ve been directed towards my brother.
So I moved into an apartment and was finally free to have a girl over. I met my first girlfriend Krista through my friend Aaron Todd. She was perhaps mostly a friend with benefits, but we did see each other for several months. Sex with her was good, I mean I literally drove to Cleveland (and I don’t like driving far) at least once a week to see her. Things started getting more serious though and she had two children so that’s a lot...she also wasn’t super super attractive, but she was good looking and we had fun. She also wasn’t very smart, she never graduated high school, so we didn’t see eye to eye intellectually, which is very important. It did mean a lot to me though that she was attracted to me since I’ve had such awful self-esteem my whole life. Things ended when I realized she was being told things to say to me. At this point I still wasn’t positive what was happening around me, so I thought I was being betrayed. She started saying absolutely when it didn’t apply and started hinting at things that someone would only know if they were watching me. I was robbed of her, just like I was robbed of Jamie, who meant the world to me. I was robbed of all my friends, all my fame, all my girlfriends. Krista was the first girl I fucked from behind and also first girl I had anal sex with. When I was at my apartment I did fuck up insertion, but it was because the mattress I had was shit. I successfully had sex with her plenty of times in different positions at her apartment. I know what happened at my apartment, but people jump to conclusions and assume that happened every time? Well YOU’RE WRONG. 
I just remembered that it was shortly after choice center I had my first non-hooker, non paid for sex. I found my old friend Val on facebook after Choice. Choice helped me learn to love myself and forget about any insecurities. I took the bus to Columbus in 2013 to Val’s and the first time I was nervous/insecure and couldn’t get a boner, but the next week I went there and had sex (with no ED pills) and it was the first time I made a girl cum. Yea, I was 25 or so, I was a late bloomer you could say. Hookers generally made me cum quick when I was younger so it wasn’t my concern to make them cum. I remembered Val from working at game trader in c falls as a teen. She was this cool gamer chick and it was good to reconnect with her. I only went there twice though, she was older and lived far away. She had also gained a lot of weight from when I remembered her when I was younger. I wish things didn’t end the way they did though, I slowly just stopped talking to her. I probably had a chance with her but got complacent/depressed. I remember telling her at that time I knew everyone around me was being told things to say to me/about me. She told me I should ignore it, and that was the best advice I should’ve taken. I should just ignore all of this around me, but as I’ve gotten closer to finding the man behind the man its been more difficult to ignore because they were implying very hurtful things. They implied that I was some child molester/pedo because of what happened when I was younger. I’m hyper sensitive, do people not realize how much that hurts my feelings? I love children and am not sexually attracted or them or would ever hurt a child on purpose. 
During all of this I thought when people were implying things that they were trying to get me through a rainbow with some reward at the end. Again, at the time I thought it was Daniel responsible for all of this and I thought I was going to get my job or something if I did what they said. Now I know this is all designed to harass me, there is no reward at the end, and I should probably just kill myself because there is nobody there to help me. I’m all alone. People just want to see me twist in the wind and make a fool out of myself. Im all alone and nobody likes me. My life is over. 
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historyandjunk · 7 years
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The Story(ies) of the German Flag(s)
The history of flags, and the study of flags (vexillology if you want to get technical), is incredibly interesting. Don’t think it is? Well, let me impart to you, the story(ies) of the flag of Germany, a banner of schwarz, rot und gold; one of the world’s most recognisable flags. Germany’s flag is not that old, because Germany, as we know it today, has only existed as a unified nation-state since 1871, when Prussia, led by Otto von Bismarck and Wilhelm I (Both of whom, had amazing mustaches), brought the German speaking peoples of Europe into a single state, sans Austria and Switzerland of course. Before this, ‘Germany’ was simply the collective name given to the hundreds of small kingdoms, duchies and city-states that were a part of the Holy Roman Empire. Which, as Voltaire famously put, was neither ‘holy’, nor ‘roman’, nor an ‘empire’. So, lets go on a journey together, and explore the history of Germany’s many flags. The Lützow Free Corps, and radical students. In 1803, as tended to happen frequently in Europe at the time, a war began. The Napoleonic Wars. Going into detail over The Napoleonic Wars is not the purpose of this post, but needless to say, the result of this conflict would shape European history for the next century at least. It could even be argued that Napoleon’s adventures created the conditions necessary for nationalist movements all over Europe, including Germany. In 1813, Prussian Chief of Staff Gerhard Johann David Waitz von Scharnhorst, gave permission to Ludwig Adolf Wilhelm Freiherr von Lützow, to organise a free corps, consisting of infantry, cavalry, hunters and snipers in order to carry out flank attacks and guerrilla warfare behind the French lines. Volunteers were to be drawn from all over Germany and Austria. It was hoped that a broadly national force such as this would rally the smaller German states to the side of the Sixth Coalition. So, in February of 1813 the unit was officially founded as, Königlich Preußisches Freikorps von Lützow (Royal Prussian Free Corps von Lützow). The romantic image of the Freikorps is one of students, and academics, fighting for the freedom of the German people. Whilst the latter half may have a ring of truth to it, only 12% of the unit were students and academics. With that being said, many famous German intellectuals were a part of the unit, including, strangely enough, Friedrich Fröbel, who conceived the idea of ‘kindergarten’, along with quite a few gymnasts for some reason. At least two women, Eleonore Prochaska and Anna Lühring, also joined, in disguise of course. However, the most distinguishing feature of the Freikorps were their uniforms. Volunteers had to equip and supply themselves. Therefore, most of the uniforms were shabby, and were often just civilian clothing or old uniforms - even uniforms taken as booty. These makeshift uniforms were dyed simply, in black. Black was chosen over the standard Prussian Blue because black was the only dye that would work properly on such poor quality materials. Prussian Blue would simply fade, revealing the fabric’s natural color underneath, unacceptable for an army unit, even a volunteer force. The uniforms had a red trim, representing rank, along the collar, cuffs, epaulets, and along the front edge of the tunic. On the front of the tunic, were eight brass buttons, arranged in two vertical rows. After the unit was disbanded in 1814, and the Napoleonic Wars concluded (in 1815), many of the students who were a part of the Freikorps went on to join Germany’s first Burschenschaft (Student Fraternities). One such fraternity, and perhaps the most famous, was the Urburschenschaft, founded in 1815, in Jena, Thüringen. Unlike radical, left wing students today, who tend to be concerned with issues of race, gender and sexuality; these student groups were concerned with and advocating for German Nationalism (In the 19th century, nationalism was quite a left-wing ideal). The Urburschenschaft is important, because its banner was black, red, and gold. The first recorded instance of Germany’s national colours being used on a flag.
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^ Banner of the Urburschenschaft. Of course, such sentiments were unwanted by the member states of the German Confederation, and in 1819, Burschenschaft were banned. These bans didn’t stop German nationalism from swelling, and numerous festivals from 1817 to 1848 displayed the colours, black, red, and gold, albeit in differing orders.
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^ Hambach Festival in 1832, with the colours upside down.
In 1848, the March Revolution swept through the German states, and a short lived Parliament was formed in Frankfurt. Heinrich von Gagern, the parliament’s first president was even a former member of the Urburschenschaft. The Frankfurt Parliament adopted, black, red and gold, in today’s order, as the national flag of the newly ‘unified’ Germany.
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^ Session of the National Assembly in June 1848, with the current flag on the left. Painting by Ludwig von Elliott The Frankfurt Parliament didn’t last, and was all but dissolved by the end of 1849. Interestingly, the black, red and gold flag became associated with democracy and freedom. Which is why Prussia had a different idea of what Germany’s flag should be. Heil Dir Im Siegerkranz. Deutsches Kaiserreich (The German Empire).
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In 1871, at the Palace of Versailles, following the Franco-Prussian war, the German Empire was proclaimed. Four years prior, in 1867, Prussia unified the North German states, under the banner of the North German Confederation (Norddeutscher Bund). Of course, a flag was required for this new nation. The origins of the Imperial Flag lie with the shipping sector and the need for an internationally recognisable identity. Most shipping at the time came from two, general regions. The first were the three former Hanseatic City states, Hamburg, Bremen and Lübeck. The second was Prussia. Hanseatic Cities typically flew red and white flags, whilst Prussia’s was black and white. Put together, the black, white, red flag of the German Empire was brought into the world.
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^ Flag of the German Empire Kaiser Wilhelm was reportedly satisfied with the choice of colours. The red and white could also be seen to symbolise the Margraviate of Brandenburg, the predecessor to the Kingdom of Prussia. Yet, there was another symbolic aspect to the imperial flag. The absence of gold made it clear that the German state would not include Austria (Black and Gold were the historic colours of the Austrian Empire, and represented the Hapsburg family). It signified the full embrace of the Kleindeutsche Lösung (Lesser German Solution) to the German Question. A Germany led by Prussia, at the expense, and exclusion of Austria. This colour scheme has come to be seen as the ideological opposite to the current flag. Representing traditionalism, monarchism, and far-right nationalism. It should be noted, however, that the imperial flag has only become associated with German Neo-Nazis because the flag of Nazi Germany has been banned, and the above is apparently ‘close enough’ for them. This co-option tends to bother German Monarchists (Yes, I was surprised to learn that they exist too). It was actually banned by the Nazis, which makes its adoption by their ‘successors’ quite ironic. And funny to a flag nerd like me. Das Deutsche Reich ist eine Republik (The German Reich is a Republic) - Opening of Article 1 of the Weimar Constitution. With the conclusion of World War 1 came the conclusion of the German monarchy and of the Hohenzollern Dynasty. It was a no-brainer as to which flag the republic should adopt. Yes, the black, red and gold flag, representative of German democracy. However, this change was not welcomed by all in Germany, including a certain mustached anti-Semite, but we’ll get to him later. The flag was viewed as a symbol of humiliation, and a constant reminder of Germany’s defeat. The Reichswehr (The German military), continued to use the old imperial flag as their war flag. Detractors in Weimar Germany used many derogatory names for the flag, including my personal favourite, Schwarz–Rot–Scheiße (Black-Red-Shit).
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^ Flag of the Reichswehr (Until 1933)
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^ "Let the old flags fly", election poster for the monarchist and nationalist DNVP, 1932. “This was to be the German Millennium, from which even the imagination was to have no means of escape." - Hugh Trevor-Roper, The Mind of Adolf Hitler The reasoning behind the colour scheme of Nazi Germany’s flag was laid out in Mein Kampf. Hitler deemed it necessary to use the colours of Imperial Germany because they were, "revered colours expressive of our homage to the glorious past and which once brought so much honour to the German nation." Nazi Germany’s flag, today, is symbolic of horrific racism, militarism, homophobia and totalitarianism. It represents all of humanity’s worst traits, and some of history’s darkest moments. At the time of its conception however, it was basically a giant marketing tool. Something that would look effective at a distance. A banner full of faux symbolism. The most important requirement was that, "the new flag... should prove effective as a large poster" because "in hundreds of thousands of cases a really striking emblem may be the first cause of awakening interest in a movement." The flag of Nazi Germany was tied up in the apparatus of the Nazi Party. As a national flag, it means little. Whilst now, it is tied up in notions of antisemitism, and fascism, at the time, it was simply a marketing tool, something to promote the Nazi Party, nothing more. It’s a shit flag. Effective marketing tool. But a shit flag. Sorry, I will try to remain as objective and un-biased as possible on this blog, but the flag of Nazi Germany is shit. Not only because it represents awful things, but because as an Asian Studies major, interested in Buddhism, I can’t help but associate swastikas with Nazism. I can’t separate the two. Seriously, fuck this flag. Nordic Crosses and Communist Compasses. After the Second World War, it became abundantly clear that Germany would need lots of rebuilding. In the West, the US, France and the UK. The Soviet’s in the East. Not even 100 years after being unified, Germany was disunited once more. This time with an iron curtain running through it. With this rebuilding came discussions concerning which flags each Germany should adopt. In the Federal Republic of Germany, there were two camps. The Social Democrats proposed the re-introduction of the tricolour. The other camp, led by the Christian Democratic Union, backed the adoption of a Nordic Cross design, used by members of the July 20 Plot, which aimed to assassinate Hitler in 1944. The tricolour was eventually chosen, mainly to provide some continuity between the new German Republic and the Weimar Republic. Discussions in the East were a little different. Many people wanted to adopt the imperial colours. This option was backed by the Soviet Union, who remembered the Weimar Republic as being weak, wracked with unemployment, and dealing with constant crises’. However, in 1949, it was decided to adopt the old tricolour. This created the awkward situation where the two German nations had the same flag. This was fixed in 1959, when the German Democratic Republic added their national emblem: a hammer and compass surrounded by a garland of corn  The hammer represented industry, the compass represented the intelligentsia, and the corn represented the farmers.
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^ Nordic Cross variant, proposed by Ernst Wirmer.
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^ Flag of East Germany. Es fühlt sich gut an, wieder vereint zu sein! (Re-united and it feels so good). Most of the Time. In 1990, after 45 years of separation, East and West came together once more. Well, it would be more apt to say that West Germany kind of ‘ate’ East Germany, but still! With reunification came a whole other set of problems, but the East’s flag was dropped, and the West’s became the sole German flag once more. Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit (Unity and Justice and Freedom). The tricolour, like so many others (For example, the French flag), represents something greater than just Germany. It embodies the values of democracy, of freedom. I think that’s one of the things that makes it so powerful. There is something about it that is instantly recognisable. Even to people who aren’t as strangely obsessed with flags as I am, people know of the German flag. I hope that you have enjoyed this journey. Most of my posts will definitely not be this long in the future. I just find the history of Germany’s flag incredibly fascinating. For a country so young, it has had so many flags, each with its own meaning, and baggage.
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