#spider-man spoilers

[fantastic-nonsense]

I'm so tired

[itsjuliak5]

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Spoilers Without Context

[prokopetz]

Dumb media interpretation #137: the central plot device of Across the Spider-Verse is just what happens when you live in a multiverse whose metaphysical framework is isomorphic with early 21st Century intellectual property law.

[juniorcaptain]

Spoilers for Across the Spiderverse

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The 42 verse is primarily colored with green and purple.

And back in Into the Spiderverse, this is what happens when Miles meets Spider-Man after being bit:

But notice how it changes to match:

Even though Miles was bit by the spider from 42, his colors change to match his own Spider-Man/verse:

Maybe he wasn’t supposed to be bitten by that spider, but it looks like he was always meant to be a Spider-Man.

[distantsonata]

You're all I have left. You have the right to remain silent. No-- stop!

[birdsquirrel]

broke: hobie ~actually really likes~ [insert non-punk musician here]

woke: as a musician, hobie probably has an appreciation for a wide variety of musical styles, but isn't likely to be really "into" anything that doesn't at the very least have the punk ethos of anti-authoritarianism, and likely most concerns himself with his local punk scene

bespoke: all the stuff in the "woke" category, but when around other spider-people he shit-talks everything that isn't punk, partially to fly under the radar by conforming to their pre-existing notions about him, and partially because once when he did it spider-noir took him to an absolutely incredible jazz club to "prove him wrong"

[wayward-wren]

My experience with Insomniac's Spider-Man 2 so far:

[cindersongblog]

is this anything

[random-fandom-whump]

Spider-Man: No Way Home ↳ By Request

[avisisisis]

can we talk about how many times peter apologizes in this game cuz it's insane

[goalexstark]

Ok so one aspect of Ben’s heel turns that is interesting and I hope gets explored in the upcoming miniseries (Steven foxe actually likes Ben and is the one writing it) is that they both occur in reaction to his autonomy being severely violated.

Yes I will elaborate

His turn as the jackal comes from Warren physically torturing him to death multiple times and forcibly bringing him back against his will and his current status as Chasm comes from beyond violating his mind to the point where his own face in the mirror is something he can’t see. (don’t even get me started on how “he willingly trusted them” is a dubious claim at best. They would have had to calibrate that helmet specifically for his brainwaves and they’re a corporation. They would not do this if they didn’t think they could get away with it.)

This all leads into what I think keeps driving Ben into these heel turns is : an inability to admit when he isn’t in control. In order for him to actually heal (and not just have the symptoms fade), he’d have to actually process and face what’s been done to him for what it was. Which also means he would need to rely on someone else. that’s a tough ask to make of someone whose formative years were spent on the run alone without a consistent support system. who has had his trust taken advantage of on a pretty consistent basis. I’m mostly drawing from some of the lost years and the clone conspiracy tie ins (there’s literally a bit where ock calls him out on how the “cellular degeneration is to keep you in line” thing is bullshit to make him seem in control of things in issue #20. Also reading issue #24 and #22 with lost years issue 0 in mind makes it a great way to close out Ben and warrens relationship.)

His need to seem in control also drives his worst actions during both events too. At the end of clone conspiracy instead of admitting what actually happened, (ock’s vindictive bullshit causing Ben and everyone else to start decaying to dust) his need to seem in control causes him to double down and spread it in the vain belief that he can just revive them later.

Dark web has this too, though it’s harder to see since wells is a shitty writer who needs Madelyn to be the “hero” of the event (don’t get me started on how suspiciously similar Ben’s hallucination and the nightmare that caused her to make that deal are. Seriously don’t) after Ben’s tree rots, just when he’s been abandoned and (at least to him) soon to be discarded and locked up, Janine arrives with Madelyn’s scythe. Right there js the key to keeping them from being separated, from being locked away and forgotten. Peter might have his memories but they’ll have the city and a whole dimension. If they surrender, they’ll be arrested and separated at best so why not go all the way?

All of this leads to the upcoming two issues. ASM #47 and #48, followed by the miniseries (which will hopefully get a full series). Based on the covers and previews, Ben and Janine have reunited and have someone supposedly there to help Ben with his memories who Janine doesn’t trust. Based on the recap text, they likely have to use Peter for part of the restoration. Issue 48 only has the cover but unlike issue 47, Janine is nowhere to be seen. Based on the previews and the fact that the cover shows spidey and Ben fighting, I’m assuming the process fails and something happens to Janine, peter tries to talk but fucks it up (seriously though he sucks at talking to Ben and Janine) and Ben fights/lashes out at him but loses, leading into Chasm curse of Kaine.

Chasm curse of kaine will likely involve his efforts to continue after this devastating defeat. He’s likely to double down and play up the “monster with no remorse or conscience” angle (think faith in 5 by 5) but Kaine knows him better than anyone, even Peter. If anyone can see through Ben’s bullshit, it’s him. Cue them doing an enemy mine (bc they’re bound to have at least one instance of it.)/Kaine helping him get Janine back.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that there is a route to take his character that can make it work. Maybe not perfectly, but there is a way to tie things together and make a path forward to something new.

[werewolf-cuddles]

they got serums to turn people into crocodiles in the spiderman universe im sure changing gender aint impossible for a 15 year old in that universe

Amazing how everyone suddenly forgot it was a comic book superhero universe the moment trans people got involved.

[prokopetz]

You know, based on the teasers I kind of expected that interrogating the intertextuality of the cinematic multiverse as a narrative framing device would be a thread that's picked at in the Spider-Verse sequel, but I genuinely would not have called the writers deciding to make that thread the explicit text of the film.

[jugaflugg]

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Review

I'd like to unload the hundreds of thoughts I'm having following our viewing of Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - that is to say, this will contain a plethora of spoilers, so be warned! No safe harbour beyond this point!

Firstly, wow. What an incredible film! Everything was spectacular, and I wouldn't expect anything less. When I went to see Into the Spider-Verse back in 2018, I was blown away by the pure tenacity of the filmmakers, who really went above and beyond with the film. The technical make-up of this film is unlike any other - simply unparalleled in its quality, style, and performance. Each and every artist should be proud of themselves for their contribution to this film; they are at the forefront of art and of cinema itself. And that isn't hyperbole.

I want to talk about the plot first, specifically how Miles' story was told in this film. We have a fair amount of narration from Gwen and her perspective on the events, which I think added a really wonderful dimension to her (pun not intended), as well as letting us see Miles through the eyes of those he has had an impact on.

Miles Morales is different, even for a Spider-Man, and I think that the film really broadened our understanding of him: who is Miles Morales? The question is asked, in more or less those exact words, throughout the film. Miles didn't tell us the answer, but he sure as hell showed us.

Every new character introduced was phenomenal - I especially loved Hobie and Pavitr, who were so stylish and interesting. I'm looking forward to learning more about them in the sequel! Hobie in particular was of interest to me, with his anti-capitalist views and pro-anarchist perspective. It may sound as though he was played for laughs, but with the "Protect Trans Kids" pride flag in Gwen's room, the "#BLM" badge on Miles' bag, and the subtly anti-police undertones of the film itself, it is clear where the filmmakers stand.

The ending of the film was jaw-dropping to say the least. As soon as we were told Miles had ended up in the wrong universe, I knew where things were going. So, universe-42 Miles is Prowler? Interesting, to say the least. Only time will tell if he is truly a villain, or if he took up the mantle as a vigilante alternative to Spider-Man.

Miguel O'Hara made it clear that he believes universe-1610 Miles (our Miles) to be an anomaly. I've talked before with people about my perspective on time travel in films - there are multiple ways it can be done (I have a point here, I promise!). One way of representing time travel is to have a linear structure, with every "anomaly" creating an entirely new universe. Alternatively, there is (what I refer to as) looped time-travel, where the events that happen were always supposed to happen (a glass knocked over by someone time travelling was always meant to have been knocked over, for example).

Personally, I'm of the mind that Miles is not an anomaly, he was always meant to be. Nobody could have prevented universe-1610 Kingpin from creating the reactor, and if he hadn't done it, another universe's Kingpin would have (that's rather the point of infinite potential). Therefore, the continuum would always have been disrupted, and Miles would always have become Spider-Man. Sure, it's an incredibly small percentage chance, but it could happen, and it did happen.

In any case, I fully expect to see a resolution in which The Spot (voiced by one of my all-time favourites, Jason Schwartzman) is either put in a position where he feels he belongs or, alternatively, manages to wipe himself from existence by being everything and nothing. No doubt that, if he is not already, universe-42 Miles will become the protector of his realm, be it as Prowler or something else (Spider-Prowl? Prowler-Man?). And hopefully we'll see a resolution between Miles and Gwen!

In terms of the animation, as I already stated, it was beyond the limits of what I thought was possible. Admittedly, I'm not an animator, nor am I familiar with the technical complexities of it, but the mix of styles was surely enough to demonstrate the sheer willpower and talent of these animators.

This isn't even to mention the live-action elements, or the LEGO dimension. Slotting characters of different styles into universes that both compliment and contrast them was downright exciting to watch. The pacing left you with the breathing room to assimilate every new fight, whilst never letting you get bored - there was always something new on the horizon.

I am, simply put, astounded by this film. I was apprehensive to see if it could outdo the first one and - though I definitely need to watch it a few more times - I am fairly certain it is on a par with, if not better than Into the Spider-Verse. The true test will be whether they can stick the landing with Beyond the Spider-Verse, but honestly I have no doubts that it will be equally spectacular.

Knowing how much time, effort, and love went into this film is so apparent in every frame. The wit of the script, the technical effects, the voice acting (shout out to Daniel Kaluuya, voice of Hobie, for his excellent performance) were all sublime and well-worth every penny we paid for the seats.

Thank you, Spider-Verse, for pushing the boundaries of creativity and managing to wow me at every turn. I can't wait to see what is next for this cast of characters, and for those leading the way in artistic development.

[Note: Realised I forgot to mention the soundtrack, which was every bit as amazing as you'd expect! Daniel Pemberton is probably my favourite film score artist - Miguel's theme was perfection!]

[instinctsxbad]

help what is happening in the most recent Spider-Man comics. what’s happening in general

[reyturnofbensolo]

Symbiote!

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